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MiniFoo posted:They can always just integrate a small screen into the rearview mirror for the backup camera, you know. I'm cool with the rearview mirror screen, I guess. The link I posted said 45% or so of vehicles sold now have them standard, but I still don't think it needs to be 100%. Unfortunately there's no good way to determine which do or do not. I just don't want people to rely on it. I think third brake lights should flash ONCE before going solid. They sell flasher units for $15-$20 that take 10 minutes to install, and it is so much more noticeable when someone in front of you has them. This does present the issue of red flashing lights, though.... Also, KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Have you been in a modern sedan recently? Rear visibility is terrible. My car has *the* C-pillar. I'm not in any position to compare, since everything looks so good to me!  I'm just extra careful when I'm on the road.
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MiniFoo posted:Do you think that the third brake light requirement is useless? Honestly curious. No, but that is because it improves visibility of the brake lights within the driver's sight line when approaching a braking vehicle from the rear. What the gently caress good is a front mounted brake light?
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nerdrum posted:Good bye, Mini Cooper that likes to burn 3 quarts of oil a month and hello Korean Goddess  2012 Kia Optima SX. KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Have you been in a modern sedan recently? Rear visibility is terrible. AdmiralViscen posted:Getting this repainted on Tuesday:
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MiniFoo posted:Do you think that the third brake light requirement is useless? Honestly curious. My favourite is lazy manufacturers that have a fourth brake light. They leave the back window unit in place and then add a spoiler with it's own light on it.
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salt the fries! posted:I think third brake lights should flash ONCE before going solid. They sell flasher units for $15-$20 that take 10 minutes to install, and it is so much more noticeable when someone in front of you has them. This does present the issue of red flashing lights, I like the idea of pressure sensitive lighting on the rear. Like full-pressure is amazingly bright versus the normal high illumination level for regular braking. I usually double or triple tap the brakes when traffic is stopping in front of me on the highways to make sure my little Miata gets noticed before becoming the cream filling between two trucks.
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Sockington posted:I like the idea of pressure sensitive lighting on the rear. Like full-pressure is amazingly bright versus the normal high illumination level for regular braking. It's pretty hilarious on the track too.
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May 31, 2012 21:21
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Newer Mercedes', BMWs and other luxury cars have various ways to signal hard braking, like flashing the brake lights at twice the speed of the indicators, turning on additional brake lights or just making the lights brighter. Luckily, I haven't seen it in action yet.
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May 31, 2012 21:32
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MiniFoo posted:They can always just integrate a small screen into the rearview mirror for the backup camera, you know. or... they could use their goddamn turn signals. I would like a pressure sensitive brake switch - press real hard and it flashes the brake lights / sets the emergency lights, press gently while traveling at over 30mph for more than one minute and it turns on the horn. Maybe people would stop riding the brakes if their cars beeped at them for it.
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davebo posted:
Thanks! I had another before this one that had been in the family for almost twenty years, but 6 of them were spent wasting away in a backyard. I bought this one since I thought it'd be better than trying to bring that one to life. Luckily for me, a more technical friend bought the old one off of me and is turning it into his project! We are going to hit a car show together in August.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Have you been in a Not to put too fine a point on it, but even though I specifically mentioned SUVs and trucks they certainly aren't the only vehicles out there with terrible visibility.
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Here is my former car: Started up after 4 years of sitting there after nothing more than a battery swap. Same gas from may 2008.  Drove it to its new home.  And cleaned it up! I took the original rims off of that car, and my friend put those gold camaro ones that he had uformerly used on a 1987 monte Carlo LS he had. The original rims are as gunned up and gross as the car was, but they are going to be restored. AdmiralViscen fucked around with this message at 22:10 on May 31, 2012 |
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kastein posted:or... they could use their goddamn turn signals. With that reasoning (assuming that all drivers are responsible enough to operate their cars in accordance to the law), let me provide an example: kastein posted:press gently while traveling at over 30mph for more than one minute and it turns on the horn. Maybe people would stop riding the brakes if their cars beeped at them for it. People wouldn't ride their brakes. KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:No, but that is because it improves visibility of the brake lights within the driver's sight line when approaching a braking vehicle from the rear. What the gently caress good is a front mounted brake light? The same principle of having rear-view cameras, DRLs or front-mounted turn signals, maybe? You know... because it "improves visibility"? I really don't want to turn this into a slippery slope, but this is like saying "Man, if everybody could read everyone else's mind on the road, we wouldn't need any safety equipment!" It's just another idea for making vehicles safer for other drivers and pedestrians; I don't know why it seemed so offensive to you guys. Sorry for the thread hijack.
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The slippery slope argument is retarded.
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With a lot of cars coming with a nav setup, the screen is usually there anyways. If you like not having driver assists, buy used. 
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I like that some of the newer Euro cars will put the emergency lights on when you have an "OH poo poo" braking episode. Yeah my peugeot does that. Its a nice feature but sometimes a bit overenthusiastic. Its a bit embarrassing having your hazards on just because someone cut you off and you had to brake hard.
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Or you can run them down 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Have you been in a modern sedan recently? Rear visibility is terrible. Only if you don't know how to properly set your mirrors. If you have them pointed down the side of your car so you can see your rear tire, you are doing it wrong.
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kastein posted:or... they could use their goddamn turn signals. Some Volvo models actually have fog taillights on a switch that increases the brightness in fog conditions.
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My 550i has the adaptive brake lamps. It does work, and I think more cars do need it. I am sure it wouldn't take but a few lines of code into the computer system. My Rover has the rear fog lamps thing. I never understood it until I put them on one night... it really makes the car stand out.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:My 550i has the adaptive brake lamps. It does work, and I think more cars do need it. I am sure it wouldn't take but a few lines of code into the computer system. Rear fog lights are mandatory in the UK, and Rover almost certainly didn't have the tooling to make them optional on export cars.
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_firehawk posted:Only if you don't know how to properly set your mirrors. If you have them pointed down the side of your car so you can see your rear tire, you are doing it wrong. The number of people who do this is staggering. Driver's Ed has failed us all. The above is one of the first things I learned from AI way, way back when. I've set my mirrors properly ever since and it makes a world of difference in any car I've been in.
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Also you shouldn't be able to see your car in your side mirrors.
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b0nes posted:Also you shouldn't be able to see your car in your side mirrors. This is correct. When a car passes from outside of your side view mirror, it should be visible in your peripheral.
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b0nes posted:Also you shouldn't be able to see your car in your side mirrors. My favourite part of driving my AW11 was that rear-view was filled with the massive stock rear spoiler.  Everytime I looked back, I smiled with how 80s that OEM body kit is.
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b0nes posted:Also you shouldn't be able to see your car in your side mirrors. I guess I never thought about this. I always set my mirrors so I can just see the side of the car I'm driving for some sort of reference. I have split "euro" blind spot mirrors though, so I can pretty much see all approaching traffic.
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Wamsutta posted:The number of people who do this is staggering. Driver's Ed has failed us all. The above is one of the first things I learned from AI way, way back when. I've set my mirrors properly ever since and it makes a world of difference in any car I've been in. DropShadow posted:I guess I never thought about this. I always set my mirrors so I can just see the side of the car I'm driving for some sort of reference. I have split "euro" blind spot mirrors though, so I can pretty much see all approaching traffic.
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parrhesia posted:They don't teach how to set up mirrors in driver's ed in the US? They do, but most people forget what they were taught as soon as the course ends and then configure the side mirrors as if they need three different mirrors showing directly behind them. Then they back out of spots without looking in any of them, of course.
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The strangest blindspot to me is front right. If I am at a stop sign for instance, if there is a car waiting at the stop sign to my right, I cannot see it because it is blocked by my rearview mirror. If a car approaches at the same time as me I'll never see it. Another is front left, where left turns are blocked by the left A pillar.
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I too have a blind spot on the front right, but mine is caused my my center rearview mirror basically blocking all the traffic coming from the right.
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_firehawk posted:I too have a blind spot on the front right, but mine is caused my my center rearview mirror basically blocking all the traffic coming from the right. In many cars that can be fixed by adjusting your seat position.
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Oxphocker posted:In many cars that can be fixed by adjusting your seat position. Some don't have enough up-down adjustment. I couldn't figure out a way to not have a blindspot for merging cars in the E39 I drove thanks to the really thick rearview mirror.
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MiniFoo posted:They can always just integrate a small screen into the rearview mirror for the backup camera, you know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcT4zOB0U_A&t=376s How about LED light bars like the Formula D cars have so the judges can see if they brake check the guy behind them.
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D C posted:How about LED light bars like the Formula D cars have so the judges can see if they brake check the guy behind them.  This is exactly what I was trying to describe even though I had no idea it had already been done.
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MiniFoo posted:
How would those help in normal driving situations? I think I might benefit from some sort of forward-facing throttle meter display than a forward brake light.
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Oxphocker posted:In many cars that can be fixed by adjusting your seat position. I am not fond of leaning back, and my seat is already as low as it goes. That said I am 6'2" and the mirror is still a problem.
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My M3. I love this car. Not much has changed since I've owned it. Fog light covers, and that's about it. It's my DD now, though I want to get something else for winters cause I don't want to drive it in winters anymore. 
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_firehawk posted:I am not fond of leaning back, and my seat is already as low as it goes. That said I am 6'2" and the mirror is still a problem. I have the same problem. My second-gen RX-7 was not built for tall guys - the center rearview is right in my way when I'm at a four-way stop. I pretty much just duck and look under it or lean forward to look around it. I wish I could get the seat an inch or two lower - a big bump puts my head into the roof, and I've got the seat leaned back a few notches. Any more and it's uncomfortable and starts to get difficult to reach the steering wheel. Other than that, I don't have much of a problem with blind spots - I adjust my mirrors the way I saw it done in an article in Car And Driver, I believe: basically the side view mirrors only overlap the view in the center mirror by a little. It puts the side views pointing almost straight back with respect to the car, so if a car passes out of view of the center mirror, it should be in the side view, and if it passes out of view of the side view, you should be able to see it in your peripheral vision, or by by turning your head just a little. Using this setup, I'm only surprised by cars when I'm distracted (which does happen occasionally, and I feel extremely stupid when it happens.) e: found the graphic: 
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Finally had a break from shooting photos for everyone else and took some new ones of my own car: 
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Just arrived in Connecticut to buy this and drive it home. 
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DropShadow posted:Just arrived in Connecticut to buy this and drive it home. That's beautiful man. Please take tons of pictures and make a return trip thread.
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