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TTBF
Sep 14, 2005



Schubalts posted:

Remember, they don't have telephones or radios or anything like that. They have to use physical messengers. If everyone at Wall Rose really is dead, then there'd be no way of knowing without sending someone there directly, Rose not sending representatives to meetings, or seeing a horde of titans coming from its direction. And with that many titans coming from Rose's direction, it's unlikely that anybody would make it from Rose to the central district with the news.

The walls are also unknown miles apart, and horses are the fastest method of travel. The guy that barged into the meeting was the guy sent from the little outpost, riding the fastest horse they had, and it still took him two days to get back to the central district.


Ok that makes sense. For some reason I imagined they had carrier pigeons to relay messages

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Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
Ok but if the titans forming the wall were voluntary, why was the priest so desperate and urgent about covering the exposed one from sunlight? It seemed he was afraid it would wake up.

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Elias_Maluco posted:

Ok but if the titans forming the wall were voluntary, why was the priest so desperate and urgent about covering the exposed one from sunlight? It seemed he was afraid it would wake up.

Perhaps the people who controlled the giants to form the wall lost control/died at some point, such that the giants now embedded in the wall are now as aggressive as the others.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Elias_Maluco posted:

Ok but if the titans forming the wall were voluntary, why was the priest so desperate and urgent about covering the exposed one from sunlight? It seemed he was afraid it would wake up.

Just having people know that would be dangerous in itself. Maybe the one inside would wake up thinking its time to do whatever they were put there for then look around and be depressed.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
They might very well have willingly become titans and done the hardening thing. However, it seems remarkably unlikely that they would still have their minds after hundreds of years in that state.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
Has there ever been any mention of titans reproducing or dying of age?
It just occurred to me that the same titans causing problems now could be the exact same ones that first appeared however long ago.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Schwarzwald posted:

Has there ever been any mention of titans reproducing or dying of age?
It just occurred to me that the same titans causing problems now could be the exact same ones that first appeared however long ago.
Titans don't have any reproductive organs at all so where they come from has been one of the big mysteries of the series.

pnumoman
Sep 26, 2008

I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Kung Food posted:

Titans don't have any reproductive organs at all so where they come from has been one of the big mysteries of the series.

They lack internal organs, period. Also, they are surprisingly light for what they seem to be, which raises questions about what exactly they are made of.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005
It's entirely possible that all the Titans are originally man made, and the experiment just went Horribly Bad somehow. Or they were man made as part of a giant eugenics "KILL THE POOR" type thing by the ruling class. They were happy when they lost that wall at the start of the series, after all, what with it reducing the "mouths to feed".

pnumoman
Sep 26, 2008

I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Zorak posted:

It's entirely possible that all the Titans are originally man made, and the experiment just went Horribly Bad somehow. Or they were man made as part of a giant eugenics "KILL THE POOR" type thing by the ruling class. They were happy when they lost that wall at the start of the series, after all, what with it reducing the "mouths to feed".

On a related note, one of my favorite aspects of this manga is the fact that I have no clue how to place this world technologically. While the differences between the central district and the outlying districts you can chalk up to a rural/urban difference, the 3D gear, the weapons, and the Titans themselves all seem to indicate that there is advanced technology beyond the printing-press level we've explicitly seen.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
The only real complaint is that clearly biology or whatever is far advanced of everything else. It would be kind of cool after everything in the series someone invents a mechanical device that kills titans easily and reclaim the world. It would kind of fit in with how useless everyone has been and the general feeling of despair for the main characters, as Eren would be useless

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


Zorak posted:

It's entirely possible that all the Titans are originally man made, and the experiment just went Horribly Bad somehow. Or they were man made as part of a giant eugenics "KILL THE POOR" type thing by the ruling class. They were happy when they lost that wall at the start of the series, after all, what with it reducing the "mouths to feed".
Wait, that's not quite how I remember it. It's been months since I read it, but I thought the issue was that, with all the refugees from the outer wall area in the middle wall, there were too many mouths to feed, so the ruling classes were happy to send them to their deaths with a hopeless attempt to drive back the titans.

I mean, I can't imagine anyone was happy to lose the outer wall. Even if they don't give a drat about the people out there, that's one less meatshield between you and death. Once they lost the wall, those people were superfluous, but the people in power would have been better off if they were alive and outside.

"Kill the poor" is a really silly comic book villain motivation. Real ruling classes don't want to kill the poor, they want to enslave and exploit them. They're not doing anyone any good if they're dead. It's just pointless dickishness.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

pnumoman posted:

On a related note, one of my favorite aspects of this manga is the fact that I have no clue how to place this world technologically. While the differences between the central district and the outlying districts you can chalk up to a rural/urban difference, the 3D gear, the weapons, and the Titans themselves all seem to indicate that there is advanced technology beyond the printing-press level we've explicitly seen.

The technology level is post-apocalyptic. That the 3d gears exist is a testament to how long humanity has been at war with the titans.

However, there is one very curious absence. They have cannons. They have compressed gas to power 3d gears. They have wood, metallurgy, textiles, and at least some industrial capacity. So, why aren't there any dirigibles? I think that the lack is intentional. With even just basic hot air balloons, the scouting legion could literally scout. Yet in its current form, the scouting legion serves as an outlet for getting rid of young malcontents and idealists. They mostly come back either broken in some way or not at all. I don't think the powers that be care about what is outside the walls at all.

Edit: Actually, now that I think about it there may have been spotter balloons in this manga at one point. I can't remember exactly when, though.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jun 12, 2012

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005

Eiba posted:

Wait, that's not quite how I remember it. It's been months since I read it, but I thought the issue was that, with all the refugees from the outer wall area in the middle wall, there were too many mouths to feed, so the ruling classes were happy to send them to their deaths with a hopeless attempt to drive back the titans.

I mean, I can't imagine anyone was happy to lose the outer wall. Even if they don't give a drat about the people out there, that's one less meatshield between you and death. Once they lost the wall, those people were superfluous, but the people in power would have been better off if they were alive and outside.

"Kill the poor" is a really silly comic book villain motivation. Real ruling classes don't want to kill the poor, they want to enslave and exploit them. They're not doing anyone any good if they're dead. It's just pointless dickishness.

They did say that about the venturing party, but they also said they were fine with losing major swaths of the population since it was getting too difficult to govern and support the ever growing population within the walls anyway.

And no, it's not really silly comic book villain motivation. Why do you think holocausts, mass-exterminations, and IMMIGRANTS GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY stuff happens? Or any major political shift? It's less about "WE WANT MORE PEOPLE UNDER OUR CONTROL", and more "WE WANT CONTROL". And if a large swath of the population poses a potential risk to that control simply by being so expansive and over-populated that a reduction would simplify the rule without affecting the ruling class' quality of life, why wouldn't they take it assuming their focus is just on their control?

It's rear end in a top hat-y as gently caress, agreed, but it's happened quite a lot of times in history. Further, the existence of Giants gives the ruling class a target to focus unrest and displeasure towards rather than the government. Those who oppose the ruling class or start trouble aren't just revolutionaries or malcontents or even protestors in this context: they're criminals against humanity itself, as the government (and the institution that it consists of) is made synonymous with humanity itself. So to speak out against the government is to be out to drat humanity to death. And if things go wrong, well, that's the giant's fault, isn't it? drat those monsters!

It's entirely possible, with our lack of understanding of the world's chronology, that this system could have existed actually for hundreds and hundreds of years beyond what is said. It could be that they deliberately let the Giants in every few centuries to cull the population within the walls, before eventually using man-made giants to push them back to the outer walls and then letting humanity slowly fill its way out again. It's a sustainable system, assuming their economy stays at the low-level it currently inhabits. The ruling class don't have to worry about shake-ups, overpopulation issues, or even a lack of resources, and can rule in luxury, and given the Giant's tendency to ignore everything but humans, it allows the natural world to thrive without their touch, too.

It's a horrible solution, yes, but it's no more horrible than anything that has happened in our own history, as far as I can tell. The major bump in any scheme like that would be of course, people finding out and loving up the system. Which Eren's abilities has clearly started in doing. His father probably figured out that titans were human-generated on the logic of their irregular and impossible biology, and worked towards understanding their own genesis. This means there's someone with the power of the ruling class' select who may be able to completely upset the system. Annie was their attempt to stop him from messing up the order of things, but she basically hosed up and now the populace know more than ever before. That the Titans may not be just other. Which means their aggression and fear is possibly going to be turned in-ward.

Largely speculation, but I think you get my idea.

Zorak fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jun 12, 2012

Level Slide
Jan 4, 2011

It's crazy how this manga is Isayama Hajime's first. I got nothing on him outside of Shingeki no Kyojin and the school parody.

khy
Aug 15, 2005

I like this so far, and I can't wait to see how it turns out. I was also introduced to the Parasyte manga from this and that one was good, too; the protagonist got the girl and a good screw out of it. It's satisfying not to have a manga protagonist blueballed forever by the main love interest like so many of them.

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


Zorak posted:

And no, it's not really silly comic book villain motivation. Why do you think holocausts, mass-exterminations, and IMMIGRANTS GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY stuff happens? Or any major political shift? It's less about "WE WANT MORE PEOPLE UNDER OUR CONTROL", and more "WE WANT CONTROL". And if a large swath of the population poses a potential risk to that control simply by being so expansive and over-populated that a reduction would simplify the rule without affecting the ruling class' quality of life, why wouldn't they take it assuming their focus is just on their control?
Xenophobia, nativism, ethnic cleansing, and holocausts all have to do with a group of "others" upsetting the balance/purity/rightful order of our society (to which they don't belong). And rather than a means of control, the whole concept is honestly really populist. Like religion, the passions it incites can be used to control people, but unless the poor have organized into some sort of unified rebel group, those in power don't have any interest in killing them. There are way more useful things to do with them.

What threat did the poor masses in the outer wall pose? Their labor made the economy larger, at little cost as they were rather neglected. Their presence made the higher/inner classes more secure. So what was so dangerous about them that they had to sacrifice all that?

Population control in a finite area makes some sense... but not only did they lose the population, they lost a fuckton of land to support the population. The population problem was made a whole lot worse by the loss of the outer wall.

It's also possible that they were trying to unify people through fear, as it seems like they'd been growing fairly complacent about the whole Titan threat, but from what we've seen of the inner wall, no one there is trying to drum up the fears for political gain- quite the opposite. They're trying their damnedest to make people feel safe and ignore the outside.


When you get right down to it, yes, I'm sure the origin of the Titans has something to do with some ideology of control- I'd bet a more idealistic origin rather than simply a pragmatic "control" motive- but as for what's been happening in the manga, that's in no way in the ruling class's interests. At all. I mean, even if the outer wall was a horrific population valve, the titans are now through the second wall. This fucks over the ruling class as much as anyone.

They may be selfish manipulative scum, but the ruling class is on the side of humanity at this point. The conspiracy's got to be external in some way.


Incidentally, I loving love how cynical this manga is. It's just such a wonderfully horrific setting. All that's left of humanity, cowering behind a few walls from unstoppable monsters. One by one the walls fall. Systems of power persist, and people use and manipulate each other as much as ever. Perhaps more than ever. And the goal is simply to delay the inevitable. Many people have explicitly lost hope for humanity, and just wish to personally live as long as they can. And heck, they're not wrong. As far as we know, this is the story of the sad death throes of humanity.

It's incredible.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005

Eiba posted:

Xenophobia, nativism, ethnic cleansing, and holocausts all have to do with a group of "others" upsetting the balance/purity/rightful order of our society (to which they don't belong).

Usually that's an excuse, yes. Justification does not equate to causa bella though. A lot of it has to do with redistribution of power and health, and reaffirmation of the power base by restricting the support to a select grouping.

As to why they'd do it here, consider the fact that it takes a lot of agriculture to support a single person. If the population is expanding faster than the agriculture could control in the long term, and even further could result in over-exploitation of the land resulting in over consumption, losing walls temporarily to lower the population and let an agriculture "bounce back" before re-expanding in a few decades could be a very calculated loss for purposes of long-term stability.

quote:

When you get right down to it, yes, I'm sure the origin of the Titans has something to do with some ideology of control- I'd bet a more idealistic origin rather than simply a pragmatic "control" motive- but as for what's been happening in the manga, that's in no way in the ruling class's interests. At all. I mean, even if the outer wall was a horrific population valve, the titans are now through the second wall. This fucks over the ruling class as much as anyone.

They may be selfish manipulative scum, but the ruling class is on the side of humanity at this point. The conspiracy's got to be external in some way.

I totally disagree. I can see the wall falling as a calculated move. It may be that the Giants actually pose no threat whatsoever to the ruling class by comparison to how much of a threat they are to the general populace. It's entirely possible they have whole retinues, a near army, of Eccentrics capable of becoming very powerful Titans. They could conceivably pied piper out every Titan in the inhabited area all on their own with minimal threat: it's already been shown that they can call masses of Titans to their person. If that's controlled, they could possibly just use it to shepherd out everyone when the job is done.

This conspiracy is way too big and important to the entire system of the walls for it not to be coming straight from the top to me. The highest officials have to be in on it.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...
I know this manga is very dark but it's very far from the following the sad, whimpering end of humanity. We're following a bunch of kids get killed en masse as they wizz around on mechanical slingshots doing sonic spins with twin swords. There's friends and an awesome girl character and Eren is a stone's throw away from saying he just wants to protect his friends. Two things are guaranteed in the later life of this manga;

1) Eren will get to see the big wide world that he's talking about

2) A massive, world-twirling twist. This manga is playing it harder than any manga I can think of with it's information distribution (except Bleach, but that's because the author doesn't know the requisite information); not only we but the characters themselves know absolutely bugger all about the world in which they live other than the immediate specifics. It's like the Bromeliad, with all the little nomes running around scared of rats and grasshoppers but with hints and clues of a much, much bigger world there. There's going to be a bigger twist than Aizen-was-the-villain.

Personally I'm predicting the rather obvious "Titans are human-made and programmed" that's probably everyone else's first guess too. It'd just fit in too perfectly to explain so much of what is going on while also leaving the slate open for further growth. If it is actually like, the titans and giants (except inexplicably for Eren and Annie) are agents of a malignant divine power that'll just be too close to Berserk to work.

Level Slide
Jan 4, 2011

The walls were actually built on top of a crystallized giant :unsmigghh:

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

I'm not sure I buy the "Titans are man made and THERE ARE SOME THINGS MAN WAS NEVER MEANT TO TAMPER WITH!" angle. For one thing, its almost TOO expected at this point. For another, it makes the development of the human titans, whether they were created for the purpose of building the wall way back when or only by Eren's dad, a hell of a lot more diluted as a plot point.

Most importantly, we got that extra chapter a while back of a lost Scout meeting a normal titan alone in the woods, and he started crying and talking, spouting jibberish about stuff cryptic stuff like "Ymir."

If there's one thing I never expect this story to do, its the expected thing. I think the secrets of the Titans aren't something we're able to predict yet, and most of the "clues" and "forshadowing," we've seen are red herrings.

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


Zorak posted:

Usually that's an excuse, yes. Justification does not equate to causa bella though. A lot of it has to do with redistribution of power and health, and reaffirmation of the power base by restricting the support to a select grouping.
That's not just the excuse at all. That's the real reason. I mean, Hitler didn't kill the Jews to consolidate power- he did it because he honestly thought that they were parasites on the German people and getting rid of them would make things better for the Germans. Right wing Americans aren't distrustful of Hispanic immigrants because some politician told them to be, they're distrustful because they honestly view them as a threat to their economic and cultural security (and the politicians capitalize on that). Ethnic groups in former Yugoslavia weren't pushed around at the behest of the economic elites, but by the honest belief by nationalists that Their Nation rightfully owned that land and it was stolen by [other ethnic group].

Those aren't smokescreens for the consolidation of power, those are fires.

... But I guess I'm straying from the point a bit here.

quote:

This conspiracy is way too big and important to the entire system of the walls for it not to be coming straight from the top to me. The highest officials have to be in on it.
The issue with the walls is an interesting one. We don't even know why it's being kept secret.

I mean, there is a conspiracy behind the ruling class, and the foundation of this world. I agree. The whole ruling structure's in on that too, I'm pretty sure.

I think that's a different conspiracy than the one Annie and the giant titan are part of. I think the Advance of the Giants is not part of the existing ruling class's plans. It's destroying everything that supports the ruling class... in fact, it makes more sense that the goal of these people isn't necessarily to wipe out humanity, but to wipe out the corrupt central establishment! Maybe. I'm not saying that's the case, but it makes more sense to me than the (undoubtedly selfish and corrupt) Saviors of Humanity, safe and in control behind their walls, wrecking their own perfect little sand castle society they've preserved.

Nilbop posted:

I know this manga is very dark but it's very far from the following the sad, whimpering end of humanity. We're following a bunch of kids get killed en masse as they wizz around on mechanical slingshots doing sonic spins with twin swords. There's friends and an awesome girl character and Eren is a stone's throw away from saying he just wants to protect his friends. Two things are guaranteed in the later life of this manga;
Well, yeah. I mean, I know things will get better and the good guys will win. Or at least, I think that's the case. This manga is dark enough that I can honestly believe it might Go There and end in defeat.

It's just painted such a wonderfully hopeless bleak picture- our protagonists rising from that depth and winning is going to be all the more incredible for how far down they were to begin with.

The setting isn't the story, and I'm sure the story will move along. But the setting man. The setting's just so loving terrible. I love it.

Sanguinia posted:

If there's one thing I never expect this story to do, its the expected thing. I think the secrets of the Titans aren't something we're able to predict yet, and most of the "clues" and "forshadowing," we've seen are red herrings.
On the other hand, anyone paying attention was pretty sure the female titan was Annie. And eventually it was revealed to be her, and not in a "Shock! It's her!" way, but a "Yeah, we know it's you," way.

Sometimes the obvious answer to a mystery is the right one.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Sanguinia posted:

Most importantly, we got that extra chapter a while back of a lost Scout meeting a normal titan alone in the woods, and he started crying and talking, spouting jibberish about stuff cryptic stuff like "Ymir."

This reminds me, we don't know anything of what's outside the walls. There is an entire planet out there, there could be entire separate human civilizations that we simply don't know about.

The Jetsons could be taking place elsewhere in the world, their super advanced society kept safe from the titans in their large floating cities, and there wouldn't be any way to know.

j4on
Jul 6, 2003
I fix computers to pick up chicks.
Plot speculation:



1. The wall is made of human powered giants. See: religion, arm linking ceremony, crystallization power, etc.
2. These human giants however, are not volunteers but were somehow forced/tricked into doing this. See: fear of release, secrecy of church.
3. Furthermore, they are not merely humans, but also a separate family/species/subspecies. Annie and her father are members of this group and have the goal of freeing them / revenge. The scientist-father may have been a member of the group as well, perhaps rebelling against it.
4. The powers that be have some sort of leverage over the giants-in-hiding to prevent outright rebellion. This is why Annie needs to be "undercover." Perhaps the powers that be are actually giants as well, but an opposing faction. It would fit the tone to have all humans ultimately be pawns in a power play. Or they have some sort of macguffin artifact.

Sue
Apr 1, 2008

Can we assume that all construction workers patching that hole in the wall will be killed after their job is done so that they can't tell anyone about the Titans inside?

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...

Sanguinia posted:

I'm not sure I buy the "Titans are man made and THERE ARE SOME THINGS MAN WAS NEVER MEANT TO TAMPER WITH!" angle. For one thing, its almost TOO expected at this point. For another, it makes the development of the human titans, whether they were created for the purpose of building the wall way back when or only by Eren's dad, a hell of a lot more diluted as a plot point.

You're getting the wrong end of the stick. I'm not saying the titans are an example of humanity's reach exceeding it's grasp and then the force of the plot makes them turn on their human creators, I'm saying the titans are to this day still being controlled by people and the giants are a mechanism used either for keeping populations under control or just to keep people away.

It's Blue Sub Six, but less complete nonsense.

Psiwri
Mar 8, 2012

"The Foecast today calls for dark clouds, booming thunder and F.O.E.s everywhere!"
So glad I caught wind of this manga, cause once I started, that was a train with no breaks until I ran out of stuff to read. I usually turn my brain off when I read manga but I was always finding myself speculating an trying to piece things together as it went, which was a great feeling all its own.

http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/12/17 favorite page.

Dreading the wait to find out what Eren's dad has hidden away in the basement.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 272 days!
I don't buy the "titans were created to engineer the society presented in the manga" theory.

No elite class on earth has ever wanted less access to territory and resources. Societies which are expanding outwards don't have problems with internal instability; all the unsatisfied, ambitious, or idealistic people (regardless of class) simply turn outwards to the frontier. Empires become internally unstable precisely when the process of expansion decays and the only way to advance socially is infighting of the sort we see in the manga.

The elite can cynically attempt to sustain the status-quo without having intentionally engineered it. In fact, elites very rarely carry out complex schemes to create a particular status-quo in an organized fashion unless the thrust of that scheme is "expand outward" or "undermine my immediate competitors for power." If the current situation were engineered and reversible at the whim of the elite, a faction within the elite would have used this fact smash their competitors on front of a triumphant populist push to reclaim the world for humanity within a handful of generations. Why worry about the poor when you can buy them off, become a living legend, expand your own power in the process, and let grunts do the actually risky work? Why it would be just like every war ever! As for messing up the little system they have, they don't give a gently caress if society stops being stable after several hundred years of loving colonization, and their power is secure as long as there is territory to claim.

Seriously, if your theory hinges on elites being longsighted and unified in resisting the opportunity to seize a massive source of wealth and power, you might want to get yourself a new theory.

Edit: :words: that just support my statements above, please skip if you just want to read about people trying not to get eaten by giant lobotomy patients.

Elites have historically humored nativists on immigration while exploiting the social and legal distinctions created by nativist sentiment to exploit cheap immigrant labor. Nativists have typically been more concerned about defending the privileges conferred by those social and legal distinctions than they have been with claiming the relatively marginal opportunities claimed by the immigrants.

Racism has a special case for black people because of slavery, which created a separate economic system and therefore a distinct set of elites with different interests than the industrial elites of capitalist societies. This created social distinctions with implications outside of the temporal and territorial borders of slave-holding society.

The third facet of racism is directed at aboriginal populations. Put shortly, colonizing societies want aboriginal people to hurry up and loving die, but they also want to admire their pre-contact societies in order to assimilate their memory into the narrative of their own cultural heritage.

Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Jun 15, 2012

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
New Chapter for us all to be terrified of.

http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Shingeki-no-Kyojin/Vol-008-Ch-035--The-Boy-s-Brightly-Shining-Eyes?id=128386#1

Daler Mehndi
Apr 10, 2005

Tunak Tunak Tun!
I want to read it, but I also don't want to read it. :ohdear:

Edit: How could things get even worse ohgod

Daler Mehndi fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Jul 8, 2012

Rakugoon
Jul 30, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Well that is certainly a uniquely creepy dude!

HelloWinter
May 27, 2012

"Hey, Nagito, what'cha
thinkin' about?"

"Oh, y'know. Murder stuff."
This chapter.... oh my god. :stare: The humans are so hosed.

I've almost forgotten how terrifying those smaller giants were.

HelloWinter fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Jul 8, 2012

Desperate Character
Apr 13, 2009
Holy gently caress gently caress gently caress :aaaaa:

Now there are loving bigfoot deviants!

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Oh my god everything is bad and everyone is hosed.

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!
So I guess Annie hadn't reported to her superiors

bofa salesman
Nov 6, 2009

Those are some creepy rear end designs drat.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
They do appear to be getting more monstrous. I wonder if there's any reason for it other than "because they look monsterous goddamn"?

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
That was a very interesting series of events because it implies that there are at least two factions of titans, considering one has active infiltrators in the human military and the other isn't even aware of what language humans speak.

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe
Somehow every new titan seems creepier than the last. :stare: I take it all back. I don't want to see this as an anime any more. I like being able to sleep.

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Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Sindai posted:

That was a very interesting series of events because it implies that there are at least two factions of titans, considering one has active infiltrators in the human military and the other isn't even aware of what language humans speak.

The weird part is that the deviant talked about the thing in the neck, which up until now had been humans, and then expressed ignorance about whether humans can speak. This implies to me that the deviant might be a titan with a not-human in the neck. If that means all other titans also have something in the neck that might not be a human, then that could explain why they all look like caricatures. Their driving entities don't quite know how humans are meant to look like.

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