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I can't remember the book, but before they're married Sam goes to see Sybil's lawyer who after all the talk about assets, makes some comment about Sybil coming from good baby making stock. He phrases it a bit euphemistically but he is obviously trying to make Sam think about fatherhood.
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NastyPBears posted:I can't remember the book, but before they're married Sam goes to see Sybil's lawyer who after all the talk about assets, makes some comment about Sybil coming from good baby making stock.
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Jun 7, 2012 12:23
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Vetinari also employees Mr. Trooper the hangman, and mention is made in earlier books that mimes end up chained to a wall in a dungeon in front of a sign labeled "LEARN THE WORDS"
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Smiling Jack posted:Vetinari also employees Mr. Trooper the hangman, and mention is made in earlier books that mimes end up chained to a wall in a dungeon in front of a sign labeled "LEARN THE WORDS" Its actually chained upside down in the scorpion pit with a sign saying "LEARN THE WORDS"  and its stated that ankh morpork's citizens consider this an acceptable punishment.
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Jun 10, 2012 11:04
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Ferrosol posted:Its actually chained upside down in the scorpion pit with a sign saying "LEARN THE WORDS" Oh god I remember seeing this in the back of the Fools Guild diary I got. I wish I saved it  .I'm not scared of Clowns but Dr Whiteface is very very unsettling.
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Jun 10, 2012 15:58
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I just got an ad from Amazon about The Long Earth, a collaboration between Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter due the June 21st, it's the first time I heard about it. Anyone here knows anything about it ?
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Jun 11, 2012 10:41
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Good news: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120607092616.htm An experimental vaccine for Alzheimer's is being tested. I hope Pratchett hears about this. Hell, I hope he tests it; may as well see the results before he chooses his time to go.
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Mister Roboto posted:Good news: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120607092616.htm Really hope this works, not just for Terry but all the people suffering from this horrible disease. The people working in curing the worst we can suffer really don't get enough support in this time of economic difficulties but they are true heroes.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Really hope this works, not just for Terry but all the people suffering from this horrible disease. The people working on curing disease at the best of times get the crumbs wiped from the table of what the beauty-chemists get to play with.
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Jun 11, 2012 23:53
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Ferrosol posted:Its actually chained upside down in the scorpion pit with a sign saying "LEARN THE WORDS" I think a lot of people think this is an acceptable punishment.
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I recently re-read Thud and as much as I like how rich and deep the Dwarven culture and history we've seen in Thud and The Fifth Elephant is it makes me wish we knew more about Troll culture. The concept that they think that time actually moves backwards is pretty interesting and I actually want to know about the history chant, Long Dance and stone music. I've always gotten the feeling that despite the heat slowing their though processes down most trolls aren't really as stupid as people think they are. Chrysoprase runs a large criminal empire which isn't exactly a business the slow witted last long in, Detritus can be clever at times and I seem to remember one of the watch stories having a part where Nobby and Fred interview some Troll merchant who is obviously smarter then both of them combined, which admittedly isn't much of an achievement. Regarding Sam's and Sybils age: I know that Sally is said to be slightly younger then Vimes in Thud and she is 51 and young Sam is about 14 months old at that time. But that would mean that Sam would have have to have been at least 20 during the Glorious Revolution when he came of as being around 16 unless I'm misremembering and it took place thirty-something years ago instead of exactly 30. or perhaps FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Jun 12, 2012 |
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Jun 12, 2012 02:31
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Fingers crossed Scouting will give us a little more peek at the backgrounds of the trolls of the Disc and their culture too.
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Chrysoprase also likes to meet people in chilled rooms (though he is always gentlemanly enough to offer a comfortable coat to his guests.)
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FreudianSlippers posted:Regarding Sam's and Sybils age: Where does it say she's 51?
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Jun 12, 2012 08:29
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Mister Roboto posted:Where does it say she's 51?
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FactsAreUseless posted:When Vimes is meeting with the Black Ribboners and Vetinari about having a vampire in the Watch. So that would make her 49/19 in Night Watch. Vimes being 19/20 is a bit older than expected but still young enough to be a greenhorn. That still fits.
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Mister Roboto posted:So that would make her 49/19 in Night Watch. Vimes being 19/20 is a bit older than expected but still young enough to be a greenhorn. That still fits.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I suspect Pratchett didn't think the ages through that much, because young Sam in Night Watch is 16, 17 tops. Continuity has always been fast and loose in the series anyway. Its all the thief of times fault!
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Jun 13, 2012 11:42
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Thief of Time is one of the most freaking brilliant things anyone has done ever.
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I think Small Gods is probably the closest Terry has ever come to writing legitimate literature.
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Jun 13, 2012 14:44
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If Night Watch isn't legitimate literature, I don't want to know what is.
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inklesspen posted:If Night Watch isn't legitimate literature, I don't want to know what is. But it can't be legitimate literature because it has dragons and wizards and stuff in it!  Seriously, Axe Cop, go read Nation then reappraise your stance.
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I think the man speaks for himself on that front: "In theory it was, around now, Literature. Susan hated Literature. She'd much prefer to read a good book"
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Evfedu posted:I think the man speaks for himself on that front: I remember reading this when I was in grammar school at the same time I had to read The Merchant of Venice. Pretty much made me fall in love with Pratchett.
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Evfedu posted:I think the man speaks for himself on that front: I certainly agree with Susan most of the time, but once in a long while, if the stars align, a brilliant author will write something that is both Literature and a drat good book. "Small Gods" and "Nation" qualify. Maybe some of his other stuff too.
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Jun 13, 2012 19:11
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AXE COP posted:I think Small Gods is probably the closest Terry has ever come to writing legitimate literature. What exactly is the criteria for "legitimate literature"?
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Mister Roboto posted:What exactly is the criteria for "legitimate literature"? Do you have to read it in school/college? Is it unlikely you would read it otherwise? Do you think it would be a much better book if set in space with big gently caress-off space violence? That's literature. gently caress it.
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Mister Roboto posted:What exactly is the criteria for "legitimate literature"? There's a curve of "years of english class symbolism you can wring out of it". Once you're at 50 years, it's Literature with a capital L. Generally calculated with some logarithmic function involving "lack of accessible humour" multiplied by "incomprehensibility".
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DontMockMySmock posted:I certainly agree with Susan most of the time, but once in a long while, if the stars align, a brilliant author will write something that is both Literature and a drat good book. "Small Gods" and "Nation" qualify. Maybe some of his other stuff too. The entire point that capital elle literature is a completely naff and pointless term that essentially just means "a certain kind of people liked this book and think you should like it."
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Which is to say, "Your local school district found it inoffensive and ambiguous enough to fill a couple weeks of english class with".
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The Giver is one of my favorites on the list of books I had to read in middle school. One reason why is I have personally seen it banned by a public school district for being too Christian, and also by a private Christian school for being too un-Christian. Anytime I see a book like that it's a must-read.
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Mister Roboto posted:What exactly is the criteria for "legitimate literature"? Is it written by a dead man, or one of approximately twelve dead women? If not, is the author a white person approaching or out of middle age? If not, is the author a person of color whose writing has had enough impact on the field that an institution of learning or criticism would feel obligated to include just enough of their work to avoid accusations of racism, but not enough to develop a cogent picture of the conditions that allowed them and others like them to produce it? If not, is the author Jonathan Safran Foer? If one of the above applies, congratulations, you are likely reading legitimate literature! (Authors writing primarily "genre" fiction are largely exempt unless, under Atwood's Law, said author is willing to publicly denounce said genre on multiple occasions.)
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I think we're skating dangerously close to anti-intellectualism here.
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 ...Jeez, calm down. All I meant was that Small Gods was probably the one most likely to end up being studied academically or in schools. I think all but his most recent books have been completely excellent and have read them all multiple times, but I don't think all of them can be deeply intellectually analysed, in the same way that I enjoyed The Stand but it's far from a great book. I didn't mean to start some crazy Anti-School Crusade.
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PateraOctopus posted:(Authors writing primarily "genre" fiction are largely exempt unless, under Atwood's Law, said author is willing to publicly denounce said genre on multiple occasions.)
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I thought I remembered Atwood writing angry screeds about being called a sci-fi writer.
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Not exactly screeds, but she did disparage the use of the term and the usual state of the genre.
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John Charity Spring posted:Not exactly screeds, but she did disparage the use of the term and the usual state of the genre.
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I really should get that book. I love Atwood's writing.
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Literature blergh. Anyway I saw world of Poo today, is it worth picking up?
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