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dj bobby bieber
Oct 9, 2003

the fanciest whale

Dopo posted:

I mean, in retrospect I don't think that Justice - Cross was that great either. I don't think any of the OG house or techno crowd was wowed by it; it was people like me who were just starting to listen to dance music.

This is an interesting statement - I actually think Cross was a pretty big deal because of this exact sentiment

I think the first thing that they put out was their Blood On Our Hands remix back in the day, which was pretty much straight up electro without the glitchy type of sound that made the Ed Banger sound. It really wasn't anything special but a solid remix with drums that no one else was really doing - besides that, it was pretty standard fare (other songs had switch ups too).

Now fast forward to Genesis from Cross, which had the glitchy and unpredictable arrangement with a very distinct sound to it. The percussion maintained the Justice sound, and the samples were intercut with the arrangement, which no one else was really doing at the time (except Mr. Oizo, who they borrow from heavily but his sound is "abrasive"). So that persisted throughout the album, and there were tracks like Phantom that played synths more like lead guitars, using bends and mods that, again, no one had done in electronic music for some time. This is really important the texture and arrangement of Cross made it much more listenable than the majority of dance music since Discovery, and Discovery still suffers from some stiff parts where it has the repetition that people used to hate about dance music.

So after people started reacting to Justice and flocking to it as the new, more listenable "EDM" that they always wanted, the Wolfgang Gartners, Madeons, and Dangers of the world started to adapt the style to slightly faster beats with far less intricacy that Justice used on both Cross and AVD. So of course, this bleeds out to the commercial producers like RedOne, Calvin Harris, Max Martin, etc, and suddenly, we have pop dance music that more than likely features wiggly synths and stuff that could (in my opinion anyway) be traced back to Cross-era Ed Banger stuff.

I think Cross deserves a little more credit.

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SteelFusion
Jan 10, 2006

that cow college

Tom Fall has been one of my favorites for the past year or so, and he released a MASSIVE new track today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbiijjVhatk

Good poo poo.

Alfajor
Jun 10, 2005

The delicious snack cake.
I'm not sure where I found this, but this 80's house mix is amazing: http://soundcloud.com/djphiction/dj-phiction-presents-jack-a
Makes me wish I'd been of age for this era, would have been incredible to dance to all these :pcgaming: NEW SOUNDS :pcgaming:

*if anything, listen from minute 50 and give it 10 minutes. Imagine you're at a dancefloor in the 80s. Close your eyes maybe even. And then let it happen. You'll know what I'm talking about if you do this :wink:

Battle Cattle
Aug 13, 2003

MOO.

Alfajor posted:

I'm not sure where I found this, but this 80's house mix is amazing: http://soundcloud.com/djphiction/dj-phiction-presents-jack-a
Makes me wish I'd been of age for this era, would have been incredible to dance to all these :pcgaming: NEW SOUNDS :pcgaming:

*if anything, listen from minute 50 and give it 10 minutes. Imagine you're at a dancefloor in the 80s. Close your eyes maybe even. And then let it happen. You'll know what I'm talking about if you do this :wink:

Yo this is loving awesome, thanks. Really incredible how so many of these sounds from 30 years ago are popular now, too. Or at least underground popular.

text editor
Jan 8, 2007
30 minutes into listening to Alex Metric's Essential Mix for the first time and I think it's a new favorite. So funky, so good. Probably one of the best track selections I've heard so far too.

http://soundcloud.com/detailsofmylife/alex-metric-radio-1-essential-mix

Dopo
Jul 23, 2004
If any of you guys are into deep, weird rave music you should really check out Ghosts on Tape's new mix for the Frite Nite podcast series. This is a great example of the kind of strange madness that you'll hear at SF's forward-thinking Icee Hot monthly where Ghosts on Tape is a resident.

http://www.fritenite.com/2012/06/06/podcast-25-ghosts-on-tape/

William Lee
May 16, 2003

I guess it's about time for our William Tell routine.
speaking of deep, really been digging this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_QRTuogMKA

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
Been rocking out to this new Alex Mind track all day:

http://soundcloud.com/alex-mind/alex-mind-demand-it-original

Kerk
Feb 9, 2008

Since 1992

Dopo posted:

If any of you guys are into deep, weird rave music you should really check out Ghosts on Tape's new mix for the Frite Nite podcast series. This is a great example of the kind of strange madness that you'll hear at SF's forward-thinking Icee Hot monthly where Ghosts on Tape is a resident.

http://www.fritenite.com/2012/06/06/podcast-25-ghosts-on-tape/

This is great, love the Icee Hot stuff!

roboshit
Apr 4, 2009

I just saw The Crystal Method here in Austin, TX and they covered part of Knife Party's Rage Valley. Pretty awesome :)

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea

dj bobby bieber posted:

Now fast forward to Genesis from Cross, which had the glitchy and unpredictable arrangement with a very distinct sound to it. The percussion maintained the Justice sound, and the samples were intercut with the arrangement, which no one else was really doing at the time

I think the ideas were being done before just with a bit more intricacy & usually as part of something bigger than the sum of it's parts, so when justice came along with that as the entire focus and huge one track sound none of the proper heads cared. Similar to dubstep gaining popularity - the sounds and ideas always existed in it when it was underground, but when some producers took those ideas and made them all the track was about it turned a lot of original fans off. Yeah, it got a shitload of new people into it (whole list of reasons and another post there) but people who've been listening to electronic music for a while are used to looking for timeless music (probably got good at recognizing it too), and they've seen how disposable music like that is - it ages very badly and is very much a product of it's era.

I'll give you that not many people were making that sound - but I don't think they were pioneers, they just made it sound huge with a bunch of hooks. It wasn't even remotely subtle, but I feel jackson & his computer band's 'utopia' is aging far far better than cross for example. Cross lacked the kind of substance needed for longevity.

cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Jun 8, 2012

Dopo
Jul 23, 2004
Oh my god. You all totally ignored the substance of my post and latched on to the most irrelevant throwaway sentence. The last thing I wanted to do was spawn a page-long discussion about Justice. You guys are loving hopeless.

On a more positive note, I just discovered a new SF producer who goes by Avalon Emerson and makes a really interesting brand of weird, hypnotic, muted house perfect for the after party (or even the after after party). On top of that she has easily the most interesting artist bio that I've ever read. It's just this side of word salad but describes the aesthetics of her music perfectly:

Avalon Emerson posted:

Forget hype: most jams compacting the great RSS feed colon are buttressed high by the weight of their hyphens.

Coke-house.
Tard-wave.
Post-trill troll-gaze.
Ed Hardy micropenis-step.

Avalon Emerson will not transcend genre (the job of Cage and Prince and avocado pho), but her no-brow style might transcend the meta tags of your brain’s dumbass heart.

There’s a need to crunch the negative into a JPEG of a lotus, just like there’s a little Judith Butler swag in the breath of every repressed Mormon housewife fashion blogger.

“Why are there so many hard parts in my dandy pack?” a girl friend of mine Tumbl’d, un-loving-prompted like debt or the wind.
-bio by Chase M Kamp

Check out her soundcloud here: http://soundcloud.com/avalonemerson
and follow her on twitter over here: https://twitter.com/kahley

dj bobby bieber
Oct 9, 2003

the fanciest whale

Dopo posted:

The last thing I wanted to do was spawn a page-long discussion about Justice. You guys are loving hopeless.

poo poo you're right lets turn this thing back into a link dump

Dopo
Jul 23, 2004
Mods, can we get the thread title changed to "Bloghouse 2007: A Retrospective"? Thanks!

Seriously though, if that is what people want then maybe we should just have a new NMD House thread or incorporate it into the new Techno/Tech House one. We're obviously not speaking the same language here.

dj bobby bieber
Oct 9, 2003

the fanciest whale
its ok i guess i just don't get nmd threads

jvempire
May 10, 2009

Dopo posted:

Mods, can we get the thread title changed to "Bloghouse 2007: A Retrospective"? Thanks!

Seriously though, if that is what people want then maybe we should just have a new NMD House thread or incorporate it into the new Techno/Tech House one. We're obviously not speaking the same language here.
I don't get it, what's wrong with discussion? I mean there's barely any posts in this thread anyways, so it's not like it will get into the way of link dumps.

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea
I hope chase m kamp never writes anything ever again.

the unabonger
Jun 21, 2009

Dopo posted:

Oh my god. You all totally ignored the substance of my post and latched on to the most irrelevant throwaway sentence. The last thing I wanted to do was spawn a page-long discussion about Justice. You guys are loving hopeless.

That bio sucks hardcore.

ziebarf
Jul 6, 2008
Not sure where to post this, but Gatekeeper's new stuff is on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfqV8bCMY-4

They went from making from some of the darkest poo poo I've ever heard to a straight up acid house album. Awesome.

Infamous Mortimer
Jan 22, 2012
Doctor P and Dillion Francis' new song "Music is Dead"
Flux Pavilion played it at Loaded and Starscape. Too good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pItcvXGMskY#!

Honey Im Homme
Sep 3, 2009

Fake bloods set from parklife can be streamed here:

http://www.be-at.tv/brands/parklife/parklife-2012/fake-blood.go

god drat :cool:

swimming anime
Jan 4, 2006

ziebarf posted:

Not sure where to post this, but Gatekeeper's new stuff is on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfqV8bCMY-4

They went from making from some of the darkest poo poo I've ever heard to a straight up acid house album. Awesome.

that's not what acid house means. this track is cybergoth garbage. anime convention rave trax. music to spin glowy poi to.

jvempire
May 10, 2009

zerojake posted:

that's not what acid house means. this track is cybergoth garbage. anime convention rave trax. music to spin glowy poi to.
I will have to mend the hole that dude made.... TRAX TRAX TRAX
Shadow Dancer - Wolff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEmECvmjcY8

blumpkinbliss
Nov 19, 2007

Jaguar Post

Dopo posted:

Forget hype: most jams compacting the great RSS feed colon are buttressed high by the weight of their hyphens.

Coke-house.
Tard-wave.
Post-trill troll-gaze.
Ed Hardy micropenis-step.

Avalon Emerson will not transcend genre (the job of Cage and Prince and avocado pho), but her no-brow style might transcend the meta tags of your brain’s dumbass heart.

There’s a need to crunch the negative into a JPEG of a lotus, just like there’s a little Judith Butler swag in the breath of every repressed Mormon housewife fashion blogger.

“Why are there so many hard parts in my dandy pack?” a girl friend of mine Tumbl’d, un-loving-prompted like debt or the wind.
-bio by Chase M Kamp

I know you didn't write this, but do you mind telling what any of that even loving means. I liked her tunes though. The first one put off some strong Theo Parrish vibes.

Blowdryer
Jan 25, 2008

jvempire posted:

I will have to mend the hole that dude made.... TRAX TRAX TRAX
Shadow Dancer - Wolff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEmECvmjcY8

Post more acid please.

Dopo
Jul 23, 2004

blumpkinbliss posted:

I know you didn't write this, but do you mind telling what any of that even loving means. I liked her tunes though. The first one put off some strong Theo Parrish vibes.

It's definitely open to interpretation but it has to do with music (and things in general) not being defined by the labels that you put on them. I just thought it was funny but I see how it would seem pretty masturbatory if you took it seriously.


Blowdryer posted:

RE: Shadow Dancer - Wolff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEmECvmjcY8
Post more acid please.

I'm no authority but generally acid doesn't have long buildups and drops like this. This tune is definitely inspired by acid but pulls a lot from modern electro-house and earlier BNR type stuff as well.

Now this. This is Acid:
http://youtu.be/ius0C32Uw2M

Dono
Feb 15, 2007

Freak the Fuck Out!

Dopo posted:


Now this. This is Acid:
http://youtu.be/ius0C32Uw2M

too clever. great track though!

Firaga
Jan 4, 2005
WHAT YOU SAY

blumpkinbliss posted:

I know you didn't write this, but do you mind telling what any of that even loving means. I liked her tunes though. The first one put off some strong Theo Parrish vibes.

One of the promoters here writes his events out like this. I think the idea is to not conform but it ends up reading like a hipster stream of conciousness -- oh wait... hmm..

jvempire
May 10, 2009

Dopo posted:

I'm no authority but generally acid doesn't have long buildups and drops like this. This tune is definitely inspired by acid but pulls a lot from modern electro-house and earlier BNR type stuff as well.

Now this. This is Acid:
http://youtu.be/ius0C32Uw2M
Yes it's definitely not a full on acid trax, but does it really need to be? I'm fine with a modern approach to acid. I mean this stuff is great:
http://youtu.be/X77pgyNqfkc
http://youtu.be/f-7gr7SHTCY
But when people interpret acid house in different ways, like in these New Beat songs:
http://youtu.be/tGB1PTWqcRg
http://youtu.be/QsK2mfaIMrI
it's still pretty great.

Dopo
Jul 23, 2004
If you're just getting into acid house I can't recommend this 2 CD compilation on Soul Jazz Records highly enough:

Acid: Can You Jack? (Chicago Acid And Experimental House 1985-95)
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Acid-Can-You-Jack-Chicago-Acid-And-Experimental-House-1985-95/master/69833

It has Maurice - This is Acid and Virgo - Go Wild Rhythm Track which were just posted along with plenty of other tracks that you really should own or at least know. The original vinyl release of a lot of these tunes would cost you more than the whole compilation. My favorite is the timeless classic Acid Crash by Tyree (http://youtu.be/ODS1Zt_6jIM).

On top of all of those great tunes the liner notes are fantastic and provide a lot of context. Goddamn, I sound like I'm selling one of those Time Life "Best of the 60s" box sets.

Edit: Oh, that third link in the previous post samples Lil Louis - Video Clash (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSZrT1S33E) which is also in that compilation.

Dopo fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jun 13, 2012

ghableska
Jul 9, 2008
Alright, this is it. This is my summer strut song of 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxxajLWwzqY

Icona Pop "I Love It"

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
BT posted his live set from EDC.

http://soundcloud.com/bt/bt-asot-invasion-edc-lv-2012

And posted a cool note with it:

Playing here for 40,000 people on the #ASOT stage at @EDC_LasVegas. 300,000 people converged here over this weekend. I began my career over 20 years ago now and from the time I came up there is almost no one that would be considered apart of my peer group that is still making or performing music. I'm kinda one of the last standing from the moment I began service to EDM. I am deeply proud of my 20 years of service. Playing a track from the new album on this night like "Must be the love" with Arty and Nadia Ali I am reminded I've only just begun. My daughter said when I finished "I have the coolest dad ever". I'll remember this night for the rest of my life.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
http://www.youthintrouble.com/

new presets album announcement

Blowdryer
Jan 25, 2008
Another new Van She single

http://soundcloud.com/modularpeople/van-she-jamaica

Summer

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
I believe this is what is referred to as a "banger"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkmJxYIik8

Weaponized Cum
Aug 31, 2004


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Next is Julio Bashmore. Tune in for fresh rear end tunes!

Spermgod
Jan 8, 2012

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS
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he knows..

Thoogsby posted:

I believe this is what is referred to as a "banger"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkmJxYIik8

Jesus it's 2012, aren't people tired of this poo poo yet?

Dopo
Jul 23, 2004

Thoogsby posted:

I believe this is what is referred to as a "banger"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkmJxYIik8

Yeah, this is garbage.

Is that Mosca and Julio Bashmore thing on Mixmag over? I'm getting an error on that link.

Leper Residue
Sep 28, 2003

To where no dog has gone before.

Dopo posted:

Yeah, this is garbage.

Is that Mosca and Julio Bashmore thing on Mixmag over? I'm getting an error on that link.

I'm watching it right now and it's got Mistajam on there. He's playing some busta rhymes.

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Kerk
Feb 9, 2008

Since 1992

Tokyo Slutty Gal posted:

Jesus it's 2012, aren't people tired of this poo poo yet?

Apparently not haha.

The new Para One album is amazing! Worth checking out for real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLt12nomhR4

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