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Pope Guilty posted:There's no merit in shock value for shock alone; shock value's got to have a point or else it's just juvenile poo poo. Old-school industrial was often shocking, but there was a message and a point behind it, such as Skinny Puppy trying to draw attention to animal rights issues. Wallowing in poo poo for the sake of wallowing in poo poo is junior high school. Laibach will always have been the band that did it best.
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I still can't believe Rainer said that you should keep politics out of industrial music. What a tool.
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Wikipedia Brown posted:I still can't believe Rainer said that you should keep politics out of industrial music. What a tool. The actual quote was: Thomas Rainer posted:I think politics have nothing to do with music. Politics are something everyone has to do in private. I vote for a party in a booth, it’s your private thing. Music should not be used as a vehicle for political beliefs, in any way, left, right, or whatever.
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I hate when people talk like your politics are some separate and compartmentalized part of you. That's aggressively stupid and never in service to anything good.
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Jun 12, 2012 14:53
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What a ridiculous and obtuse position. Although I guess he'd shy away from taking responsibility for having anything as extreme as a position. Political expression through art is an extremely important facet of culture. Does Rainer think Picasso, Orwell, Chuck D and Joan Baez are a bunch of assholes for using art as a political vehicle? I should stop getting mad, as he's obviously just a huge idiot with no ambition.
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Jun 12, 2012 15:26
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Wikipedia Brown posted:Political expression through art is an extremely important facet of culture. Does Rainer think Picasso, Orwell, Chuck D and Joan Baez are a bunch of assholes for using art as a political vehicle? Obviously not. Pablo Picasso never got called an rear end in a top hat.
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Pope Guilty posted:I hate when people talk like your politics are some separate and compartmentalized part of you. That's aggressively stupid and never in service to anything good. It reminds me of video game developers who make FPS games about shooting brown people in the middle east; they're always quick to disavow any political statement. I don't know if it's more naivety or cowardice, but just claiming to be apolitical doesn't take your work out of the context of, you know, the world into which you release it.
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In other news, Grendel has their own energy drink!  http://www.infrarot.de/grendel/timewave-zero-energy-drink/2011354
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Sloppy posted:In other news, Grendel has their own energy drink! (I like Grendel.)
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Jun 12, 2012 21:50
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Twiin posted:Obviously it was inflammatory, it's agitprop. But there's a very important distinction between calling someone a racist and saying that they're using racist imagery. I don't think Andy's a racist. I don't care if he's a racist. I care that he wears a confederate flag on the cover of magazines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc
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Sloppy posted:In other news, Grendel has their own energy drink! :wumpscut: did it first. I picked up Skinny Puppy's new live album today. Coming from someone who doesn't like most live albums, it's uh, pretty much what I expected. About half the tracks Ogre seems like he's just singing over a ripped album instrumental track. The other half of the tracks feel more like they are being played, but none of them really mix up the songs too much. I think it's definitely a better live album than Doomsday though.
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Yeah, I bought it more out of a sense of loyalty than anything else. It's aight I guess.
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I don't get too excited over live albums. I'll probably check it out at some point, if only for "Assimilate" and "Addiction." "Hatekill" was never a huge favorite of mine. Honestly, I'd probably be more interested if a Live DVD was coupled with the release. Oh well, maybe they'll get around to touring the pretty OK HandOver in the fall.
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So the iVardensphere END OF DAYS DUN DUN DUNNN tour is starting tomorrow! Anyone here going? It's iVardensphere, W.A.S.T.E., ESA, End: The DJ.quote:June 14 - Calgary @ Dicken's I'm going to be performing on this tour from July 5th to 17th, so if you come out make sure to yell something about stairs at me while I'm playing! I'm sure I will love that! I'm going to be honest, I don't know if I've ever actually heard W.A.S.T.E. before.
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Jun 13, 2012 15:41
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Really cool coil artifact including seven CDs and art signed by Balance and Christopherson for sale right now. You should buy this. I'm not the seller.
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hatelull posted:I don't get too excited over live albums. I'll probably check it out at some point, if only for "Assimilate" and "Addiction." "Hatekill" was never a huge favorite of mine. Honestly, I'd probably be more interested if a Live DVD was coupled with the release. I really dig live industrial albums for some reason. It's the whole transition to a live performance for me I suppose. I've always enjoyed the old Ministry (before they became a thrash band) bootlegs too. KMFDM w/ PIG Sturm & Drang live album from the 2002 tour was a gem for me. I still have the audio of the Greater Wrong of the Right LIVE DVD as well. I picked up Bootlegged, Broke, and In Solvent Seas album too. Already listened to it 3 times and have enjoyed it immensely. Can anyone recommend some other know live performances from other industrial artist of a similar vein?
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Not really the same type of music, but since there's a lot of fan overlap anyway, I'll point out that the Neubauten album 9-15-2000, Brussels is killer. Excellent recording quality and fantastic performances. Nothing beats actually being there and seeing them perform, but if you like live albums, that's a great one.
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I second Neubauten, in fact, there's an exquisite live movie on Netflix of them.
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I just listened to that THYX album like three times in a row. It's like this thread and the electro/synthpop thread had a baby. A healthy baby born without complications; who grows up to be a millionaire philanthropist and space adventurer. for me its the definitive modern synthpop album. There's more than enough audible MIAB DNA to please any fan with even a passing curiosity about Stefan's side project. 9/10
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Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:I really dig live industrial albums for some reason. It's the whole transition to a live performance for me I suppose. I've always enjoyed the old Ministry (before they became a thrash band) bootlegs too. KMFDM w/ PIG Sturm & Drang live album from the 2002 tour was a gem for me. I still have the audio of the Greater Wrong of the Right LIVE DVD as well. I think I mentioned it earlier in this thread, but if you can find a copy of the Skinny Puppy bootleg live album Fractal Zoom, it's pretty awesome. There aren't any crowd sounds or anything mixed in because it is a straight rip from the mixing board of one of their older shows, but all the tracks have a lot of energy. Also, it sounds like the whole thing was sped up to fit it on a tape or something, so every song has a really fast tempo. a_gelatinous_cube fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Jun 16, 2012 |
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Pretty Eight Machine. I can't tell if I hate or love this.
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Pope Guilty posted:Pretty Eight Machine. 
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Jamie Duffy of Acumen / Acucrack killed himself last night. I don't even know what to say.
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Twiin posted:Jamie Duffy of Acumen / Acucrack killed himself last night.
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Whoa. http://new.dahl.com/2012/06/jamieduffyrip/
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I linked to that status update ... oddly it's been deleted since.
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Goddamn.
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teethgrinder posted:I linked to that status update ... oddly it's been deleted since. Yeah. Some people aren't too happy with that. My sister and I debated saying something to a friend when they first posted it on FB (before the news got out) and whether we should say something. But for what it's worth, Jamie did put that out for the public. It is what it is, but drat.
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Pope Guilty posted:Pretty Eight Machine.
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Still in shock after hearing about Jamie, I keep feeling like I'm going to wake up and just find out it was just a nightmare or something. He was a great guy, and while I haven't kept in touch with him in recent years as much as I have in the past, I still feel like we have a lifetime of great memories together. He would do anything for anybody, and I have never met a better sound guy. EDIT: Thankfully, that Steve Dahl link is 404ing now, too. I thought it was pretty tasteless of them to re-post the picture. Even more tasteless when they had the original headline: "The Public Suicide of Acumen's Jamie Duffy" (later just changed to "RIP Jamie Duffy"). Anyway, here's a great write up about Jamie. ® fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Jun 24, 2012 |
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Jose Mengelez posted:I just listened to that THYX album like three times in a row. It's like this thread and the electro/synthpop thread had a baby. A healthy baby born without complications; who grows up to be a millionaire philanthropist and space adventurer. I'm in the same boat, and I'm actually starting to prefer THYX to the latest MIAB release. I can't stop listening to this album, it's like I discover something new with every playthrough.
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Man, I've been going to sleep to this Haujobb song for 10 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV6TH8bnYuw Are there any other good cold spacey ambient bands out there in a similar vein to Haujobb's atmospheric stuff?
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:Are there any other good cold spacey ambient bands out there in a similar vein to Haujobb's atmospheric stuff? Flint Glass maybe? http://youtu.be/PiH8Wz5Oh0g http://youtu.be/JDin_QeIT_A Some artists that do this sort of thing but a bit more rhythmic. T'Zolkin http://youtu.be/MUeuZ2Vbeag Gridlock http://youtu.be/xX73-xSNZpY Detritus http://youtu.be/ffliTGPb1nY
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I adore Zentriert Ins Antlitz.
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:Man, I've been going to sleep to this Haujobb song for 10 years.
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The new Caustic album is apparently coming along.
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 Legend industrial-ish/synth-pop from the land of the midnight sun. I think I'll let the music speak for itself. Devil in me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO_dGptXJVw Violence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAEXjUsreaM Sister https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZQ7z0AxBxc Þí Soundcloud http://soundcloud.com/legend-band FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Jun 29, 2012 |
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Twiin, did you drop the Denver show on the 20th? A guy gave me a flyer last night and I think that's what he was saying.
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