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Trasson posted:Since I figured my team of Berserkers and Knight would want Protect available, I decided to loot the Defender from Fork Tower. I'm currently "enjoying" Wall Ringing Omniscient out of his 30000 MP. For my own information, does Spellblade count as magic for the Fork Tower, or am I also going to get to enjoy waiting out his 30,000 MP? nene. posted:http://www.justin.tv/cube89 I'm going to stream more FF5 Four Job Fiesta. My first job was Knight! What will my second job be... I hope to find out tonight. This is supposed to be a challenge run. Knight/Mystic Knight/Ranger is NOT a challenge! You're fiesta-ing wrong!
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Schwartzcough posted:For my own information, does Spellblade count as magic for the Fork Tower, or am I also going to get to enjoy waiting out his 30,000 MP? You can Spellsword, but meleeing him will cause him to cast Reset. So uh, the only option you should use is Mute Sword.
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Jun 19, 2012 08:41
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Slap him with mute sword yeah, and make sure you have something to reflect or eat his death-flare at the end. Or doesn't that fire when he's silenced?
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Jun 19, 2012 08:49
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Himuro posted:Me too! Any big hurdles with knight only? Good luck to you. Gonna be a toughy. Seriously wowie Gilgybot really likes me!!! Next year I will do hard and berserker risk for sure, this is just silly.
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Beat World 2 today. Atomos gave me some trouble the first time. Second time, I said "gently caress it" and used Gil Toss. Died really fast. Faris learned Gil Toss so I switched her to Knight and Lenna to Samurai, and beat the crystals in about 15 seconds. Gil Toss is probably going to be my main form of offense. I managed to beat Exdeath on the first go, Gil Tossx2 every round and having my Red Mage and Bard with !Red cast Cure 2 or whatever other spell was needed. And now...The drat ANTLION is kicking my rear end! All of my good gear is still on Faris and Lenna. I'll kill it, it'll just take a little effort. Bard has become pretty badass at this point.
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Jun 19, 2012 09:38
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Wheresmy5bucks posted:Is there ever any point to taking the Brave Blade? It seems to get nerfed even if you only run away casually. It can be used with Double Grip, and does not make you run away a quarter of the time.
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Jun 19, 2012 09:43
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"@Bruceski1 can now use the Earth Job 'Dragoon'. Yay, jumping!" So that gives Black/Time/Beastmaster/Dragoon. Any two casters combine well for job/sub and black/time are no exception. Anything clever I can pull with BM or DRG with these combo options? It looks like they'll be pretty basic without anything like Ninja or Ranger to play with. At least I got dealt someone who can wear all the heavy armor.
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I'm in the middle of this challenge but I am about to head to bed for the night. My team is Black Mage, Summoner, Geomancer, and Dancer. I have no idea what I'm going to do. Any tips? I find myself dying a LOT. Edit: I am noticing my lack of good healing is killing me more often than not. Luckily I just arrived in world 2 and will be getting high potions soon. PizzaFiend fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Jun 19, 2012 |
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Jun 19, 2012 10:44
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 A pictoral chronicle of my battle versus Omniscient. I didn't have a screenshot of right before him so the first status screen is from a while before, before I hit Mirage, but with the correct time Photoshopped (okay, MSPaint'd) in, since I remembered it from when I saved over it. Yay fast forward! As for Spellblade, yeah it triggers Reset unless he's Silence. At least you can Osmose Sword the last bits of his MP. I was stuck waiting until Scan ran out of MP. As for the point of the Brave Blade versus the Chicken Knife: if you don't have a way to circumvent the Chicken Knife's Flee effect, its damage advantage is a lot less pronounced. I personally prefer the consistency of the Brave Blade in situations like that. Of course, if you have !Dance/!X-Fight/Dual-Wield, or if you can't use the Brave Blade, then you definitely want the Chicken Knife. For a team that lacks those options, the consistent high output of the Brave Blade will be just fine. Current run status: I've just finished Dancing Dagger Tempting Tango-ing a Gala Cat from the North Mountain to cast Float on Faris. I now need to keep her alive until I hit Catastrophe, but other than that and getting to 99 Potions/High Potions/Phoenix Downs, I'm ready for the endgame. I'm not bothering with the other three Tablet dungeons. I have the Excalibur, Rune Axe, and Assassin's Dagger, so I don't need any of the other Legendaries. I have the Flame Sword, Icebrand, and Defender. I don't have the Mirage Vest, but any battle that would be useful in would be over too quickly. I have ten Elixirs and a full stock of Flame Rings and Running Shoes. A note on that: grabbing the Flame Rings in World 1 helped a lot. The Seal Guardians I could have Doom Axe'd, sure. Exdeath, though...he was a pain. While I might have been able to get buy with a full set of Wall Rings instead, I was much more assured of victory. Melusine was easy enough with my defense piercing axes, but the Pyramid itself is a bitch and a half and having an easy midbattle heal on hand made things much easier. So, for anyone else doing classes that can use Fire moves but can't otherwise heal with something like White Wind or Curaga: consider grinding out for the Flame Rings, it's a huge help. A note for that: you only really need three, though. If you're using Fire/2/3 Sword or a Flame Sword, then you can attack yourself through a Flame Shield, as evasion is always zero when you're attacking yourself.
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Jun 19, 2012 11:18
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What trigger's Omniscient's casting Return? I know Attack does, but would !Jump or !Mix? I'm basically trying to figure out how I'd go about doing Forked Tower when I reach World 3. Holy is pretty desirable for my White Mage, but since my other two jobs so far are Berserker and Bard, I'm out of options for straight-up magic damage dealers. Otherwise I just hope Silence sticks before I attack him?
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Jun 19, 2012 11:43
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Bruceski posted:@Bruceski1 can now use the Fire Job 'Beastmaster'. Yay! Time to catch 'em all! Control is loving awesome as a support skill. You can control some very tough encounters and tell them to kill themselves, it uses no mana, and with a Hypno crown it almost always lands. It's also a mana-free way to heal your whole party in some encounters, which is especially useful if you have no white magic. Catch isn't bad but it takes a lot of effort, Control is the skill you're going to be equipping your other guys with.
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Jun 19, 2012 11:46
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Hope Silence sticks, yeah, but if you're playing on an emulator, you might be better off running his MP out. He has a few set patterns-if he goes into one that doesn't have Drain, or involves casting Regen on himself after a Reflect (or if your White Mage gave him Reflect) then you can just wait his MP out-Drain is his only damaging move that pierces Reflect. also screw you Mirage Village Healing Pot. I had to restart the Cleft of Dimensions over because I out of sheer habit hit it and it "cured" Faris's Float.
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Jun 19, 2012 11:47
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Huh. I had it in my mind that Reflect was TM in this game. I'm a bit averse to waiting his MP out, mostly because I've been recording my boss fights as a progress log, and I don't want to spend most of the recording hitting the fast forward button. But if there's no other way around it, I guess I can make a personal exception for one fight.
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Trasson posted:Hope Silence sticks, yeah, but if you're playing on an emulator, you might be better off running his MP out. He has a few set patterns-if he goes into one that doesn't have Drain, or involves casting Regen on himself after a Reflect (or if your White Mage gave him Reflect) then you can just wait his MP out-Drain is his only damaging move that pierces Reflect. Omniscient was a chump in my run. Imaged myself, berserked him, went to town with a berserked monk and a white mage spamming image. This also worked on Shinryu. White magic, best magic. 
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Luceid posted:Omniscient was a chump in my run. Imaged myself, berserked him, went to town with a berserked monk and a white mage spamming image. This also worked on Shinryu. Shinryu is really easy with pretty much any job if you Berserk him right away. Every attack he makes kills a target, but you have 4 guys so you can revive them faster than he kills them  don't even have to heal, just phoenix down them and leave them near death since it's one hit anyway.
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Jun 19, 2012 12:39
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Seething, loving crystals. I don't have fire rings. I have one fire shield. Running with thief/beserker /geomancer / dragoon. Levels are in the low 30s. Any advce other than my current plan which is grind, kill my beserker, take them out one at a time.
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Jun 19, 2012 13:45
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Kill everyone but the Dragoon, tote the Flame Shield, bring the Fire Crystal into critical HP (so it spams Firaga) and milk that for self-healing while grinding the others down? He can also use the Dancing Dagger - you don't get 2x Jump damage, but you get shots at Swords Dance, which is basically 4x damage.
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Jun 19, 2012 13:52
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Xillah posted:Seething, loving crystals. I don't have fire rings. I have one fire shield. Running with thief/beserker /geomancer / dragoon. Levels are in the low 30s. Any advce other than my current plan which is grind, kill my beserker, take them out one at a time. You still got a Death Sickle for your Berserker? If so, equip that since it can work on all the crystals; 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUph4b8lwPE Having gotten the best set of jobs possible for a fiesta, I decided to ignore all sidequests, pick up Syldra, Mighty Guard, and a set of Hermes Sandals and storm the Rift knowing that I could not die unless I got arrogant. I further decided to play with Neo-Exdeath by using a yellow dragon I caught in Exdeath's Castle so long ago. Because I couldn't lose. I think I will reload my save and kill the first form with level 5 death for shits and giggles. Man, does berserker risk still work? It might be the only way to avoid decent jobs again.
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What are the earliest monsters to confuse for White Wind and Mighty Guard (assuming you don't need !Control) after you get the Dancing Dagger? I'm still slogging through the Barrier Tower and it is really aggravating when I run into monsters that are Undead since all of my healing abilities are Drain-based. Edit: GBA version, so Enkidu was immune to confusion.
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Jun 19, 2012 15:59
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Man, does berserker risk still work? It might be the only way to avoid decent jobs again. Nope. Berserker Risk was only available for preregistration. Tricky posted:What are the earliest monsters to confuse for White Wind and Mighty Guard (assuming you don't need !Control) after you get the Dancing Dagger? I'm still slogging through the Barrier Tower and it is really aggravating when I run into monsters that are Undead since all of my healing abilities are Drain-based. Hellraisers in Exdeath's Castle for White Wind. Stingray in the lake near Carwen in the merged world for Mighty Guard.
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Well, I ended up with Thief/Red Mage/Ninja/Chemist, so I shouldn't have any problems. I've never used Chemists before, though, as I really abhor any instances of "Guide Dang It" (warning: TvTropes). Why couldn't the abilities simply be spells that burn through your items like MP? I know there are multiple sets of reagents that cause the same effect, but I really feel like there is a better solution here. None the less, my Chemist is my only source of many buffs, so I've done my research. Strangely enough, my Chemist with the Dancing Dagger and Lamia Tiara is now my main source of physical damage. I'll probably look into moving Chemist over to my Ninja, once he learns Dual-Wield. In any case, I'm very comfortable with my team now, and don't anticipate any problems all the way to the end.
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W.T. Fits posted:Nope. Berserker Risk was only available for preregistration. Awesome, thanks.
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Jun 19, 2012 18:34
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PhilippAchtel posted:None the less, my Chemist is my only source of many buffs, so I've done my research. If that's all you're using your Chemist for, you really don't get this game.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Shinryu is really easy with pretty much any job if you Berserk him right away. Every attack he makes kills a target, but you have 4 guys so you can revive them faster than he kills them  It really is hilarious to beat Shinryu without taking a single point of damage.
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BlitzBlast posted:If that's all you're using your Chemist for, you really don't get this game.  I guess you missed the part where I said this is the first time I've used the class? And I have to wonder what the point of the posturing is, but this is the internet, after all. In any case, I've looked up the offensive Mix combinations, but haven't had chance to see their full effect. Looking forward to that.
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Thanks for the advice chaps.Kyrosiris posted:Kill everyone but the Dragoon, tote the Flame Shield, bring the Fire Crystal into critical HP (so it spams Firaga) and milk that for self-healing while grinding the others down? He can also use the Dancing Dagger - you don't get 2x Jump damage, but you get shots at Swords Dance, which is basically 4x damage. I don't have a death sickle so couldn't try that with my beserker, I don't think I've been this far in FFV before and I'm not using a guide I'll have missed loads.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Shinryu is really easy with pretty much any job if you Berserk him right away. Every attack he makes kills a target, but you have 4 guys so you can revive them faster than he kills them It helps if your party is fast enough to move before he can though; with the guys I'm using he sometimes gets 2 or even 3 turns before I can revive someone. Annoyingly, it's not consistent either so sometimes it happens immediately other times it happens after 2 or 3 minutes.
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With Thief/Summoner/Bard so far, every single boss past Garula has been really easy. Bard isn't much use in boss battles besides giving everybody regen, but I've basically just been spamming one of the elemental summons and using two thieves for alternately attacking and healing. Beat Adamantoise, ready to head up to the flying ruins...
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Pablo Gigante posted:With Thief/Summoner/Bard so far, every single boss past Garula has been really easy. Bard isn't much use in boss battles besides giving everybody regen, but I've basically just been spamming one of the elemental summons and using two thieves for alternately attacking and healing. Beat Adamantoise, ready to head up to the flying ruins... You'll love your bard for bosses starting mid world 2. Get Swift Song from Surgate as soon as you can. Everyone will get their turns faster and faster and faster and faster. It's like having super haste. And for randoms, of course, being able to inflict stop or confuse on the entire enemy party is awesome. Though so is having your thief just !Flee from everything that you don't have a particular motivation to kill.
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So I'm in the world 3 gear slog at the moment, my ninja and dancer are using legendary gear and the thief blade and chicken knife which is great but my mystic knight is falling behind with 2x great sword which I got from early world 2 and all the other swords im finding are knight only so far, are there any particular upgrades I can grind/buy/steal?
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Vil posted:And for randoms, of course, being able to inflict stop or confuse on the entire enemy party is awesome. Though so is having your thief just !Flee from everything that you don't have a particular motivation to kill.
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Harvs posted:So I'm in the world 3 gear slog at the moment, my ninja and dancer are using legendary gear and the thief blade and chicken knife which is great but my mystic knight is falling behind with 2x great sword which I got from early world 2 and all the other swords im finding are knight only so far, are there any particular upgrades I can grind/buy/steal? Rune Blade (assuming the MP for crits mechanic) or Enhancer (just plain high damage, and a boost to magic), both in Istory Falls. If dual wielding, you can get another Enhancer in the final dungeon. But given that shields can be pretty awesome too, you may not be.
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PhilippAchtel posted:
I've never been far enough in FFV to get the earth crystal jobs, so Chemist is completely new to me, too. So far I've been using Hi-Potion+Ether to restore max MP on my Summoner/Black Mage, and Turtle Shell+Maiden's Kiss to drain about 1000 damage from an enemy.
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Vil posted:Rune Blade (assuming the MP for crits mechanic) or Enhancer (just plain high damage, and a boost to magic), both in Istory Falls. If dual wielding, you can get another Enhancer in the final dungeon. But given that shields can be pretty awesome too, you may not be. Just after you said this I got the enhancer, but thabks for reminding me about the hidden rune blade, they should hold me over for the rest of the game, time to grind a few levels and tackle exdeath So far this run the most difficult thing has been deciding who looks cutest in their outfit for each job, certainly going hard mode next year
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Breaking from the FFV Fiesta chat - there was an update in the whole http://www.finalfantastyviipc.com domain registered to Square Enix in the past day. This was caught briefly by several people (and Google cache) before the site locked down requiring login credentials:
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Jun 19, 2012 21:58
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A built in way to cheat? Oh Square Enix you shouldn't have.
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So I joined this FF5 Four Job Fiesta thing today! Playing on the SNES version for the first time in a good ten years. My final job setup is Blue Mage/Berserker/Knight/Monk. Boy they weren't kiddin' about hard mode. Blue Magic rocks though, so it helps offset the fact that my classes are all physical. Shame I can't get White Wind though... it would be nice to have some healing. Just beat Gilgamesh at the start of world 2, rather hilariously. Drained away all his MP with Magic Hammer, and he couldn't do any of that defensive magic he puts up halfway into the fight. What fun!
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As a man of 5'9" I just want to say heh, I'm bigger than you Cloud I can't be excited about this, it will probably be some steam port with a couple of tweaks. If it has an improved translation (with a less stereotypical Barret), or extra content I might be more keen.
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FreezingInferno posted:My final job setup is Blue Mage/Berserker/Knight/Monk. Boy they weren't kiddin' about hard mode. Blue Magic rocks though, so it helps offset the fact that my classes are all physical. Shame I can't get White Wind though... it would be nice to have some healing. You can get it- it just requires using the Dancing Dagger and hoping for the confusion dance. I think you may have to wait until world 3 to get the right enemy, though. Edit: Xillah posted:As a man of 5'9" I just want to say heh, I'm bigger than you Cloud Yeah, seems like a bare minimum-effort update of the PC version. Not particularly exciting.
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