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homercles
Feb 14, 2010

Great Horny Toads! posted:

Tried to watch the Earthlings trailer. Got to the thing that got flayed alive. Jesus loving Christ. I will attempt to watch the whole thing, someday, but holy gently caress.

I think it might be a badger. I heard that harvesting badger hair for shaving brushes is gruesome.
This documentary is horrific. It leaves some unsettling questions which will most likely remain unanswered, like "is the slaughterhouse footage used atypical" and "is it still that bad". And then the dolphin slaughtering. Just wow.

Reminded me a little of the Nigerian meat market part of the Al Jazeera documentary series Working Man's Death - Lions

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That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk

homercles posted:

This documentary is horrific. It leaves some unsettling questions which will most likely remain unanswered, like "is the slaughterhouse footage used atypical" and "is it still that bad". And then the dolphin slaughtering. Just wow.

Reminded me a little of the Nigerian meat market part of the Al Jazeera documentary series Working Man's Death - Lions

The scene from Earthlings that's vividly clear in my mind every loving time someone mentioned it is where the man throws the poor dog into the garbage truck right as it's compacting...

There's so much horror in this world caused by people, it wouldn't surprise me if the slaughterhouse footage was mostly for the norm considering the sheer amount of animals that are trafficked through them every single day. I can't begin to understand how there can be compassionate and/or humane killing of such a vast number of food animals and still be producing the amount of food it takes to feed all the people in this country.

Pilli
Jul 3, 2011

Dogs have owners,
cats have staff

That drat Satyr posted:

The scene from Earthlings that's vividly clear in my mind every loving time someone mentioned it is where the man throws the poor dog into the garbage truck right as it's compacting...

There's so much horror in this world caused by people, it wouldn't surprise me if the slaughterhouse footage was mostly for the norm considering the sheer amount of animals that are trafficked through them every single day. I can't begin to understand how there can be compassionate and/or humane killing of such a vast number of food animals and still be producing the amount of food it takes to feed all the people in this country.

This post is highly disturbing. Not you, our world. :shepicide:

That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk

Pilli posted:

This post is highly disturbing. Not you, our world. :shepicide:

Yeah, very sorry about getting a little deeper about that than anyone should really think about. :/ Just go hug a puppy and/or kitten, I promise you'll feel all better. Or just browse this thread for a while!

On topic: I just finished Deborah, 13 & Servant of God which was posted a a bit ago in this thread. I have to say I'm a bit perturbed on a whole different level by the pure conviction that kid had. Especially the bit where her brother took her to a house party and she's witnessing to some random girls and tells them how any lies will send them right to hell, and the one's like, "Oh so even if my mate asks me if she looks good in these jeans and I tell her yes even though she looks terrible? That little white lie will send me to hell?" And Deborah is all like, "ABSOLUTELY YOU WILL BURN IN HELL." :psypop:

I completely respect people's right to religion, but gosh. Just... gosh.

Great Horny Toads!
Apr 25, 2012
Anecdotal, meat processing stuff ahead. A friend of mine worked in a hog barn, and he told me a few things. The animals' skulls were so thick that it took 2-4 headshots and a couple swings of a sledgehammer to kill them. If the hog wasn't dead by then, they'd just hang it and gut it alive.

The excessive growth hormones pumped into the young ones didn't always cause uniform growth. It was fairly common for the growth of organs to lag behind the muscle and bone, causing tears and ruptures in major arteries, intestines, etc. When those ones died, they were tossed outside. The nearby dog food factory would pick up the corpses once a week.

Also, the levels of hydrogen sulfide and ammonia killed some of the hogs, too. I don't eat pork, anymore.

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed

Great Horny Toads! posted:

Anecdotal, meat processing stuff ahead. A friend of mine worked in a hog barn, and he told me a few things. The animals' skulls were so thick that it took 2-4 headshots and a couple swings of a sledgehammer to kill them. If the hog wasn't dead by then, they'd just hang it and gut it alive.

The excessive growth hormones pumped into the young ones didn't always cause uniform growth. It was fairly common for the growth of organs to lag behind the muscle and bone, causing tears and ruptures in major arteries, intestines, etc. When those ones died, they were tossed outside. The nearby dog food factory would pick up the corpses once a week.

Also, the levels of hydrogen sulfide and ammonia killed some of the hogs, too. I don't eat pork, anymore.
And people call me a crazy hippy for being particular about the meat I eat :psyduck:

SevenStringGuru
Jun 6, 2003

Bob Loblaw Law covers all injuries, including those sustained while trying to 4x4 a segway.
Just finished watching the HBO Documentary "The Weight of the Nation". A four part series which displays the current obesity epidemic in 'merica. It gives you a very detailed insight to the problems; economic motivations/challenges behind growing fresh fruit and vegetables vs corn/soybeans, how to develop community programs to cultivate an active lifestyle, problems faced throughout industry where sedentary jobs combined with long hours lead to increases in weight and finally the series begins with a look at the medical side of how your body works. It was a very well done documentary IMHO, and you should check it out.

Weight of the Nation

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009

Toriori posted:

And people call me a crazy hippy for being particular about the meat I eat :psyduck:

I'm not an animal rights geek by any means but I think animals should be treated with and die without suffering. YouTube has a ton of videos showing atrocities at hog farms. I worked on farm and ranches while growing up in Montana and never saw poo poo like this...

http://www.cok.net/camp/inv/iowapigs/

SevenStringGuru
Jun 6, 2003

Bob Loblaw Law covers all injuries, including those sustained while trying to 4x4 a segway.

SeanBeansShako posted:

Anyone know if there is a good documentary about Frank Zappa online?

Was crusin through the thread and saw your request, as a fellow Zappa head I hope you enjoyed these as much as I did :


Frank Zappa Doc Italy

Frank Zappa Doc part 1

Bonus Jam Improve (Bozzio,Mars,Belew


I'm trying to track down another doc that I saw. They showed him using the synclaviar and composing parts of "Whats new in Baltimore"


edit :added the bonus jam

SevenStringGuru fucked around with this message at 00:50 on May 17, 2012

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed

Ropes4u posted:

I'm not an animal rights geek by any means but I think animals should be treated with and die without suffering. YouTube has a ton of videos showing atrocities at hog farms. I worked on farm and ranches while growing up in Montana and never saw poo poo like this...

http://www.cok.net/camp/inv/iowapigs/

It's not even necessarily how they die, it's what's put into the animals. All the growth hormones and all that poo poo just isn't right to me. I think even a good reason to boycott factory meat is how poorly the people who work in those processing plants are treated. I did some reading about it for an anthropology class and it was really horrifying because it was pretty much all immigrant workers who had come to Canada in hopes to work and save so they could bring their family over, but they were paid so little they were living hand to mouth. Not to mention how strenuous and dangerous the job itself was.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

SevenStringGuru posted:

Was crusin through the thread and saw your request, as a fellow Zappa head I hope you enjoyed these as much as I did :


Frank Zappa Doc Italy

Frank Zappa Doc part 1

Bonus Jam Improve (Bozzio,Mars,Belew


I'm trying to track down another doc that I saw. They showed him using the synclaviar and composing parts of "Whats new in Baltimore"


edit :added the bonus jam

Hell yeah. Thanks for throwing this up. Know what I'm watching later.

Pocket Billiards
Aug 29, 2007
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SevenStringGuru posted:

Just finished watching the HBO Documentary "The Weight of the Nation". A four part series which displays the current obesity epidemic in 'merica. It gives you a very detailed insight to the problems; economic motivations/challenges behind growing fresh fruit and vegetables vs corn/soybeans, how to develop community programs to cultivate an active lifestyle, problems faced throughout industry where sedentary jobs combined with long hours lead to increases in weight and finally the series begins with a look at the medical side of how your body works. It was a very well done documentary IMHO, and you should check it out.

Weight of the Nation


This is going on my list.

Flaky
Feb 14, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
Civilisation: A Personal View by Kenneth Clarke

This documentary is loving great. Episode 8 by itself is probably one of the best hours of television I think I have ever watched. If you are at all interested in European art or history, or are planning a trip to Europe shortly I highly recommend it.

SevenStringGuru
Jun 6, 2003

Bob Loblaw Law covers all injuries, including those sustained while trying to 4x4 a segway.

SeanBeansShako posted:

Hell yeah. Thanks for throwing this up. Know what I'm watching later.

Here's another documentary for Zappa!

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znLHXVFYoRM

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQH1T9LMpug

Radio Interviews
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hfcsB6qTLY

SevenStringGuru fucked around with this message at 01:03 on May 25, 2012

Don Verga
Nov 4, 2009

I just finished watching Ross Kemp - On Gangs (Poland) and I loved it. I was hoping someone here could recommend some documentaries about eastern European gangs, or any documentaries about soccer violence, gangs, hooligans around the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwFpLZy-WPc

cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010

You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
You might find this interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9JDJdaMs-Y

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Don Verga posted:

I was hoping someone here could recommend some documentaries about eastern European gangs, or any documentaries about soccer violence, gangs, hooligans around the world.


Watch more Ross Kemp, visiting dangerous cities and interviewing dangerous gangs is pretty much all he does.

the kawaiiest
Dec 22, 2010

Uguuuu ~
Unfortunately this isn't a very high quality copy of it but Krakatoa: The Last Days is a pretty good docudrama made by the BBC about the huge eruption of Krakatoa in the 1800s, which left over 36000 people dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sISqG_PM8n8

This is part 1, the rest can easily be found through the related videos on Youtube.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
This documentary follows the eventual decline and collapse of the Soviet Union.

Double Happiness
Aug 4, 2010

Quit smoking reduces heart risk
In the early 90's the BBC commissioned a series where they gave teenagers across the UK video cameras and asked them to make a video diary of their lives.

Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you In Bed With Chris Needham.

The film follows a spotty, mulleted little oik called Chris Needham around the town of Loughborough. Watch Chris as he tries to form a hopelessly terrible thrash metal band, coaxes his girlfriend to say something on camera, argues with his Nan over pet fish and contemplates life, religion, politics and Australian Soap Operas.

The film strikes so close to everyone I've shown it to because it's such a definitive portrait of teenage British life, and is so funny at times that it's hard to believe it was entirely unstaged.

The whole thing can be seen on Youtube here. I really can't recommend it enough to anybody in the UK who was ever a teenager.

Double Happiness fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Jun 14, 2012

Popelmon
Jan 24, 2010

wow
so spin
Has anybody seen the new Louis Theroux Twlight of the Porn Stars?
I thought it was really good (of course it was). Especially the interview with Tommy Gunn was fascinating.

I'm always impressed that he can get away with the questions he asks AND that he actually gets insightful answers to them. Very few people could pull this off.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Watching it right now. The former shock porn director turned professional porn parody pro guy is so over the top it is amazing.

'So they sent you to prison?'
'YEAAAAAAAAAH and my wife!'

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
I have noticed how Theroux has become somewhat souless overtime, he's sort of moved from curious disarming nerd to pestering nerd.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
The porn episode from a couple days ago is great. I love how he's revisiting the same people 15 years later--it's crazy how young he looks in the old clips too!

Not sure if I should be happy or sad that I recognized some of the girls too.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

WebDog posted:

I have noticed how Theroux has become somewhat souless overtime, he's sort of moved from curious disarming nerd to pestering nerd.

He is a little colder in this as I suspect he has strong feelings towards the subject matter. I squirmed a little towards the end when he visited the dead directors widow though.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

SeanBeansShako posted:

He is a little colder in this as I suspect he has strong feelings towards the subject matter.
If you watch the original one from Weird Weekends he's far more involved and personable in a geeky naive way, even going to the point of taking a photo of himself nude and showing it to porn agents. People open up as they feel the need to explain what's going on.

Through the years he's sort of mellowed his curiosity into investigative journalisim - no doubt it's harder. His approach makes him appear somewhat cold hearted and distant in the "Tough Love" series.

However he is excellent at getting people to indirectly hint at their inner thought processes - such as in "Twilight of the Porn Stars" where he gets Thommy Gunn to suggest he finds it hard to intimately connect with women as a result of his work and that it's something he really wants in life.

He also does something similar in "America's most hated family in crisis" where one of the girls talks about a Dutch friend she knows online that sort of hints she's secretly wishing to have outside contact.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
It still is incredibly heart warming the reception he gets from the actors, staff and (most) of the industry workers in this one.

The Valuum
Apr 11, 2004

The Valuum posted:


Also I got a date with a chunky monkey (don't tease I like 'em) who is also absolutely crazy for documentaries. We plan on watching Dear Zachary together next weekend, but I was wondering if anyone perhaps had a good "date documentary"?

This was months ago but I just saw my old post so I figure I'd give an update.

It went over horribly, seriously that had to be the worst date movie ever (granted I enjoyed it). Didn't help that the girl had a kid either.

Learn from my mistake.

Also I think a lot of Louis passiveness in "Twilight of the Porn Stars" has to do with the fact he was revisiting an old topic. I do get what people are saying though. He actually participated in a destruction derby in one of his older episodes. I think a lot of his enthusiasm/participation has to do with the subject matter. Law and Disorder in Philadelphia was my favorite.

mrfart
May 26, 2004

Dear diary, today I
became a captain.
The men who made us fat.

From the BBC website:
Around the world, obesity levels are rising. More people are now overweight than undernourished. Two thirds of British adults are overweight and one in four of us is classified as obese. In the first of this three-part series, Jacques Peretti traces those responsible for revolutionising our eating habits, to find out how decisions made in America 40 years ago influence the way we eat now.

Peretti travels to America to investigate the story of high-fructose corn syrup. The sweetener was championed in the US in the 1970s by Richard Nixon's agriculture secretary Earl Butz to make use of the excess corn grown by farmers. Cheaper and sweeter than sugar, it soon found its way into almost all processed foods and soft drinks. HFCS is not only sweeter than sugar, it also interferes with leptin, the hormone that controls appetite, so once you start eating or drinking it, you don't know when to stop.

Endocrinologist Robert Lustig was one of the first to recognise the dangers of HFCS but his findings were discredited at the time. Meanwhile a US Congress report blamed fat, not sugar, for the disturbing rise in cardio-vascular disease and the food industry responded with ranges of 'low fat', 'heart healthy' products in which the fat was removed - but the substitute was yet more sugar.

Meanwhile, in 1970s Britain, food manufacturers used advertising campaigns to promote the idea of snacking between meals. Outside the home, fast food chains offered clean, bright premises with tempting burgers cooked and served with a very un-British zeal and efficiency. Twenty years after the arrival of McDonalds, the number of fast food outlets in Britain had quadrupled.


Second episode airs this Thursday. Really interesting stuff.

Primoman
Jan 23, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
I'm interested in checking out any documentaries that focus on either of the following:

1. Deep, urban settings consisting of abandoned buildings or gang-ridden back alleyways. The kind of setting you'd see in a serial killer movie or a narcotic-related movie Traffic.

2. Seedy night clubs or other late-night hangouts where the most "colorful" members of society go to hang out, get stoned, or have weird sex games. Basically something like Dave Attell's Insomniac.

I've always been interested in urban/seedy areas, the kind most well-educated people would stay away from but always curious to sneak a peek at, like something out of a Robert Rodriguez film or any other horror/gang/crime setting.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

Anyone have any recommendations for a good documentary on Mesopotamian civilizations? I'm mainly looking for a historical documentary, but I wouldn't complain about archaeological tidbits thrown in. (And given the nature of the topic, it's almost a given.)

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Primoman posted:

I've always been interested in urban/seedy areas, the kind most well-educated people would stay away from but always curious to sneak a peek at, like something out of a Robert Rodriguez film or any other horror/gang/crime setting.
Louis Theroux's series is a good start as he visits maximum security prisons, meth addiction, Philadelphia and so on.

Peas and Rice
Jul 14, 2004

Honor and profit.

Primoman posted:

I'm interested in checking out any documentaries that focus on either of the following:

1. Deep, urban settings consisting of abandoned buildings or gang-ridden back alleyways. The kind of setting you'd see in a serial killer movie or a narcotic-related movie Traffic.


Dark Days is currently on Netflix streaming and is about homeless people who live in abandoned parts of the New York subway. There's a lot of urban decay in the tunnels themselves, and pretty much fits your bill.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
I have no idea if this will be released outside of Australia but John Safran's Jedi's and Juggalos which looks at how subcultures adapt religion is just hilarious and fascinating. A Juggalo priest talks about blessing kids with holy Faygo or visiting Sufi Jedis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVsATinb64Q

BogDew fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Jun 20, 2012

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts

Primoman posted:

I'm interested in checking out any documentaries that focus on either of the following:

1. Deep, urban settings consisting of abandoned buildings or gang-ridden back alleyways. The kind of setting you'd see in a serial killer movie or a narcotic-related movie Traffic.

Try Ross Kemp's On Gangs, which often delves into the seedier sides of cities around the world.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid
A very interesting documentary about UFOs, I know what I saw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIeGeE0uDJg

Now, I'm not really into the whole UFO thing, but this documentary gathers the statements of reliable witnesses (which doesn't necessarily mean they're not full of poo poo) including government officials from all over the world.
It's a nice change from rednecks who saw UFOs after drinking and hunting.

Hank Morgan
Jun 17, 2007

Light Along the Inverse Curve.
Can't believe I never clicked on this thread until now. Already watched documentaries about Robert Moog, Brian Eno, the concept of Infinity driving mathematicians insane and Jim Henson this evening.
To contribute a documentary narrated in Irish but with subtitles about Tom Crean, an Irish sailor who went on two Antarctic expeditions with Scott and on Shackleton's Endurance voyage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWSkrfKeMuU

Schindler's Fist
Jul 22, 2004
Weasels! Get 'em off me! Aaaa!
Here's a doc where camera crews go on patrol with a Soviet Typhoon class ballistic missile sub. It is the biggest frigging sub you've ever seen. Such access, even today, is remarkable. The captain and crew members are interviewed, and it's a good view into the life of the Russian submarine force.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSDYOdQ9YiQ

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
A good documentary, but goddamn the last ten minutes wow.

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doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

SeanBeansShako posted:

A good documentary, but goddamn the last ten minutes wow.
yeah, reminded me a bit of the Carrier docu, where that one kid comes home to finally figure out that his pregnant gf has pretty much moved on.

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