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Even back in the heyday of vinyl, picture discs were acknowledged as being inferior.
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Jun 23, 2012 10:24
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Ron Burgundy posted:Even back in the heyday of vinyl, picture discs were acknowledged as being inferior. They're just to look at, really. As for colored vinyl (or, in this case, lack of color), I bought Bowie's Sound and Vision clear vinyl box set. I put the first album on the turntable, hit play, and nothing happened. I figured, poo poo, my turntable just died. It took me a minute to figure out the sensors couldn't read the disc because it was clear. 
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Jun 23, 2012 13:10
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CPL593H posted:It's ok. I just wanted you to feel bad for lording it over everyone. I probably would have done the same thing. Anyone paying super high prices for the pink Evol disc is stupid because that series of Sonic Youth reissues also had standard black vinyl pressings that are readily available. I'm pretty sure the black and colored versions cost the same. I got all of my Sonic Youth ORG reissues for free out of the whole Heady Nuggs thing. I wish that ORG would reissue Daydream Nation, Goo, Dirty, Experimental Jet Set, and Washing Machine. I know that the box sets for the first three are easily available, but I don't like those.
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Jun 23, 2012 14:36
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Wait, isn't black vinyl actually colored vinyl? I thought vinyl was naturally clear, and you needed to add color to it, and black became the standard color for whatever reason.
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Jun 23, 2012 15:31
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Black vinyl has carbon in the paint or something which makes it stronger or something.
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Jun 23, 2012 15:31
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WASDF posted:I highly doubt the color of the vinyl really does anything for the quality. I'm not saying that it necessarily does. But all the problems I've ever had we with colored discs. It's possible that sometimes when they press stuff on colored vinyl they use lower quality poo poo or something in the process isn't attended to as well. Or it could be just a coincidence. I have plenty of colored discs that play fine as well. In fact I have some that are really great sounding records. Surfingelectrode posted:I'm pretty sure the black and colored versions cost the same. I got all of my Sonic Youth ORG reissues for free out of the whole Heady Nuggs thing. The colored versions of those albums were limited editions. I think of 300 or 500. It was a fairly low number anyway. They were the same price in stores, but I guess on the secondary market people are paying way more for them. And I don't know about the rest but there is a Daydream Nation reissue. It's not ORG but it has four discs. The extra discs have live tracks. I don't have it so I can't say how it sounds, but it's only 35 bucks for a 4 LP.
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Jun 23, 2012 20:54
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CPL593H posted:I'm not saying that it necessarily does. But all the problems I've ever had we with colored discs. It's possible that sometimes when they press stuff on colored vinyl they use lower quality poo poo or something in the process isn't attended to as well. Or it could be just a coincidence. I have plenty of colored discs that play fine as well. In fact I have some that are really great sounding records. I own the Daydream Nation Box set, and I love the effort they went to for the packaging. Shame the records aren't that good. But you should still be able to pick up the recent reissue of "Goo" through Universal's back to black imprint.
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Jun 24, 2012 01:40
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CPL593H posted:I'm not saying that it necessarily does. But all the problems I've ever had we with colored discs. It's possible that sometimes when they press stuff on colored vinyl they use lower quality poo poo or something in the process isn't attended to as well. Or it could be just a coincidence. I have plenty of colored discs that play fine as well. In fact I have some that are really great sounding records. Are people really spending a bunch of money on them? All of the colored reissues are available on the band's store. I used to have the Daydream Nation and Goo boxes, but didn't really like them. I like my original Enigma Daydream Nation a lot more. I just wish it still had the poster that came with copies of the album.
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Jun 24, 2012 02:00
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Surfingelectrode posted:Are people really spending a bunch of money on them? All of the colored reissues are available on the band's store. I haven't actually looked into it, I was just commenting on what Electric Bugaloo was saying. But I don't find it hard to believe. Look how much money people drop on all that Third Man stuff when they put out limited editions that are the exact same releases as the black vinyl.
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Jun 24, 2012 02:06
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Neither have I. It's really annoying too, because the guy selling them didn't use the same (proper) labels that an actual record store would use, so the ones I've tried removing have been an absolute bitch to get off cleanly. They're the sort of thing you might find on glassware, and they sure as hell weren't made for paperboard. He had also run all ~300 of the records he was selling through discogs and had a fat stack of printouts with him to haggle with. Hair dryer and slowly peeling gets even the worst stickers
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Jun 24, 2012 15:52
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I'm curious to see how much this winds up selling for: http://www.ebay.com/itm/White-Strip...d#ht_552wt_1163 One of those sold for $16,000 a few years go.
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Jun 25, 2012 23:16
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Hey looking for some good vinyl stores in Rome. Visited Hellnation which was terrific but stocks only a small part of what I'm interested in - heavy metal, prog, 80s new wave/pop, and jazz fusion. Just got a day to go - so please help a fellow out.
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Jun 26, 2012 00:09
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Surfingelectrode posted:I'm curious to see how much this winds up selling for: drat, it must be really nice to have super rare White Stripes vinyl... My Dopesmoker disc hasn't shown up yet. Such a bummer, because I'm moving next week and have already packed up my records. Not sure when I'll get a chance to spin it now.
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Jun 26, 2012 01:11
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I'm not the type to romanticize achievements or put much credence in fate or destiny, but ever so often I'll come across someone doing something so remarkably well that I think to myself "they're doing exactly what they were put on this planet to do." I feel that way about Jack White and trolling record collectors.
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Jun 26, 2012 04:18
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theradiostillsucks posted:I'm not the type to romanticize achievements or put much credence in fate or destiny, but ever so often I'll come across someone doing something so remarkably well that I think to myself "they're doing exactly what they were put on this planet to do." I feel that way about Jack White and trolling record collectors. While I can't disagree with what you're saying, I think it's worth pointing out that this auction is not affiliated with Jack White and the item in question is actually one of a kind. And it wasn't produced with the intention of being something that would be highly sought after. So I would say this is very different from his instant collectables. I wouldn't actually spend that kind of money on a record even if I had it, but at least I can understand why people would be crazy enough to do so.
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Jun 26, 2012 05:44
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Picked up a Dual 1245 today for $75. Looks like this: Hooked it up through a thrift store Philips 590, like this:  But I have one question for any audiophiles out there... What the heck are these speaker connectors?  I've already figured it out that I can just jam the two speaker wires into either the 8 or 4 ohm configuration slots, but they don't stay in worth a drat. Is this some weird proprietary thing that Philips did in the 70's or something? I ordered the midi->RCA converters on eBay and they work like a charm, my only current problem is getting the speaker wires to stay in their holes.  On the upside, now I can play the 2nd UK pressing of 'We're Only In It For The Money' that I got a few weeks back. Also picked up Black Mastiff's 'Pyramids' and their EP when I saw them at the Distillery in Calgary a few nights ago, and found a copy of 'Spiral' by Vangelis at Heritage Poster shop. gently caress year chips. D:< Edit: Forgot to mention I picked up the ultra rare C'mon/Hot Live Guys 7" split, along with C'mon's second album 'In The Heat Of The Moment' (on clear vinyl). Each was limited to 500 pressings, got them shipped to me for $10 a piece through Kijiji via a guy who I almost thought would take my money and run. Nope. And I got the Turbonegro 'You Give Me Worms/TNA' single. I wish I had a camera right now. XYZAB fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jun 26, 2012 |
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Jun 26, 2012 06:48
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Those are some old PA-type speaker connectors according to a friend in audio. He couldn't remember the exact name but they look close to DIN 41529 (just missing 1 pin which is probably ground). Awesome looking gear though. I love 70s electronics.
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Jun 26, 2012 07:45
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edit: nevermind, someone else gave a better answer.
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Jun 26, 2012 07:47
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Handen posted:But I have one question for any audiophiles out there... What the heck are these speaker connectors? It's a Philips thing, unfortunately I threw some out a couple of weeks ago.
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Jun 26, 2012 09:38
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Welp, I finally got it.
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Jun 26, 2012 14:53
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What is it?
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Jun 26, 2012 15:04
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alg posted:What is it? Broken Social Scene's self-titled. I've been meaning to buy it for a good while now, but spent my record money on Heady Fwends and some jazz.
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Jun 26, 2012 15:09
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Wronkos posted:Welp, I finally got it. I love this record so much. I assume your copy has Side D with the To Be You And Me EP on it. That was a huge surprise for me as the fast version of "Major Label Debut" is one of my all time favorite songs.
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Jun 26, 2012 16:59
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I got my first warped records today  I figure sitting out in the sun for most of the day did a bad number on them. The outer tracks are really bad, the arm just skips on them.I don't really wanna send the back to this small label because I'm sure they will lose money on it. Do any of the crazy tricks I found on google actually work to un-warp a record?
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Jun 26, 2012 23:42
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alg posted:I got my first warped records today No.
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Jun 26, 2012 23:54
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 Just got this today from Germany. Sounds amazing 
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Jun 27, 2012 02:05
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alg posted:I got my first warped records today How bad of a warp is it? When you say that the arm skips on the tracks, do you mean that it's incapable of playing at all on them? I have two or three warped records that play fine aside from a track or two where the tone arm hovers a bit as it goes up and down the warp and skips. I've found that resting a dime on top of the tonearm head during that track lets it play fine. It's not pretty, and it's probably bad for the needle and LP, but it works.
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Jun 27, 2012 02:09
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Parachute Underwear posted:
That album art is nuts. I'd frame that sucker
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Jun 27, 2012 02:10
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Parachute Underwear posted:
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Jun 27, 2012 02:18
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Jeff Wiiver posted:How much did that run you? I just discovered this band a few weeks ago and can't believe they're not more popular. ~$74 Canadian for 2 copies from here: http://www.kozmik-artifactz.com/shop/product_info.php?info=p6908_HEAVY-EYES--THE---The-Heavy-Eyes--black--LP.html It'll probably be a bit cheaper since the clear blue was 22 EUR (looks like only black is left ). Got one that's labelled 3/150 and another (my buddy's) 78/150. Good stuff. I may get it framed eventually!
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Jun 27, 2012 02:45
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MokBa posted:I love this record so much. I assume your copy has Side D with the To Be You And Me EP on it. That was a huge surprise for me as the fast version of "Major Label Debut" is one of my all time favorite songs. Yeah, I've owned To Be You And Me digitally for a while now, so that was a very pleasant surprise. Hell yeah for fast Major Label Debut/Canada Vs America. Wronkos fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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Jun 27, 2012 05:18
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CPL593H posted:No. Glass and sun worked one time for me, I guess there are many variables at play.
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Jun 27, 2012 08:27
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Ron Burgundy posted:Glass and sun worked one time for me, I guess there are many variables at play. I've heard about this one, but I've also heard there are mixed results. I think some people occasionally get lucky. But if you've got a warped record odds are it's a warped record no matter what you do. Even if you can flatten the disc itself there's a good chance the grooves get all hosed up in the process. I've seen this machine for sale that is supposed to unwarp records. Of course it's also really loving expensive and who knows how well it works.
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Jun 27, 2012 09:00
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I'm about to try the glass and sun method this weekend, since we're expecting triple-digit temperatures here. I got a record in the mail a month or so ago that was just hosed. The package looked like it had been bent in half somewhere in transit between Manchester and the US, and stayed in that position for a couple of weeks. The record was a limited edition of 30 copies, so I have no chance of getting another unless I want to pay out the rear end. It won't play at all as it is-- no harm in trying to melt it a little.
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Jun 27, 2012 18:02
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If you are going to go down that road, just do the glass trick in an oven. You don't have to wait for a hot day.
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Jun 27, 2012 18:19
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One of the pieces of glass I'm going to use is the top of my coffee table, which is too big to fit in the oven. I drat near shattered it on the kitchen floor on a previous attempt at this.
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Jun 27, 2012 19:20
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I'm gonna try the glass and sun method this weekend, too. Triple digit temps buddies  I'll let y'all know how it goes.
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Jun 27, 2012 19:56
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Quick suggestion - make sure you try this on something you don't care about first, just so you don't feel too bad if you misjudge times or heat levels. I've never seen the glass trick work perfectly, in the oven or outside, but I've seen it completely destroy records more often than I wish I had. We had at least one person come into the shop every week asking for tips on how to unwarp a record, almost universally they came back in to try and find a new copy.
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Jun 27, 2012 20:07
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I've destroyed more records than I've fixed with glass & heat method, and even on the ones that were flattened (barely within the limits of playability) there was obvious groove distortion. This really is the last resort on an exceptionally rare or sentimentally important disc. A warped record wants to stay warped.
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Jun 27, 2012 20:17
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Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's a private press record-- I'm looking at spending an easy $100 at least for another copy. It's ruined, so I'm gonna go ahead and give it a shot. Groove distortion I can live with, but right now the tonearm won't even lay flat on the record with the turntable stopped.
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