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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Uh...what attack can take off four bars of a cockatrice's life in one hit? One of my pawns did it I guess and I don't know what. The cockatrice was alive and fighting and then suddenly it wasn't.

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neetz
Mar 28, 2010

TehGherkin posted:

If it was her who decked him out in steel plate with the royal surcoat

Ha, that was me. I used him for a full run in NG+ and he did very well through all of it. Your pawn was unique in that it was the only hyper aggressive Fighter I've ever hired, which came in handy plenty of times - the Scather/Nexus inclinations seemed to work really well. I'm glad the gear came through.

The moment I loved him was when we were fighting Direwolves and he barked something like "'Tis a white wolf, soon to be red!". I'd never heard that before and hell, that sort of spirit was to be rewarded. That and he could carry loads of things with minimal penalty. Great pawn man.

Oh, if you want to roll another character without losing your main one select cloud storage or a USB stick when you're prompted at the title screen. I suppose you could have as many characters as you have USBs, really.

neetz fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Jun 25, 2012

jerichojx
Oct 21, 2010
How do I get to the Cocktatrice in Soulflayer Cavern?

Nahxela
Oct 11, 2008

Execution

jerichojx posted:

How do I get to the Cocktatrice in Soulflayer Cavern?
There's a ladder at some point, which has a cave/tunnel next to it, leading to a series of water slides.

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy
I think the best way to handle pawn chatter is to think of them as excited dogs that bark at everything.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Seashell Salesman posted:

Don't want to read the specific unlocks and spoil myself, do MA or Ranger get better daggery skills? Currently maxed Strider and Assassin.

Also, is there any way that gouge is better than hundred kisses? Doessn't seem to do more damage.

I think the gouge skills are usable when you're climbing on monsters.

Seashell Salesman
Aug 4, 2005

Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!

titties posted:

I think the gouge skills are usable when you're climbing on monsters.

Hundred kisses is also usable while climbing. Gouge is only usable while climbing.

Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

Normal gouge seemed kind of meh, but dire gouge is mindblowingly amazing. Add on to that the fact that swords just tend to have higher attack ratings than daggers and you'll probably be doing more damage. Hundred Kisses, and really any of those "tap rapidly to attack" moves, always kind of bothered me because your character wouldn't stop when you stopped pressing. Instead you have to wait a couple more seconds to some little flourish. And yes, I'm aware of reset, but I want to go all offense, all the time. :black101:

Also, only being able to use it while climbing never bothered me because intimate gambit and antler toss keep everything stunlocked.

Seashell Salesman
Aug 4, 2005

Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!

Captain McStabbin posted:

Normal gouge seemed kind of meh, but dire gouge is mindblowingly amazing. Add on to that the fact that swords just tend to have higher attack ratings than daggers and you'll probably be doing more damage. Hundred Kisses, and really any of those "tap rapidly to attack" moves, always kind of bothered me because your character wouldn't stop when you stopped pressing. Instead you have to wait a couple more seconds to some little flourish. And yes, I'm aware of reset, but I want to go all offense, all the time. :black101:

Also, only being able to use it while climbing never bothered me because intimate gambit and antler toss keep everything stunlocked.

Instant reset is like cheating. I feel bad using it but it's so good.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I just fought a wyvern for the first time (that's the one with the heart on its back, right?) and while all my pawns were shouting to attack its wings, they were doing precisely jack poo poo on that front themselves, despite my main pawn being a ranger, having a bunch of awesome bow abilities, and having challenger as her first inclination. What gives?

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Jun 25, 2012

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Samurai Sanders posted:

Uh...what attack can take off four bars of a cockatrice's life in one hit? One of my pawns did it I guess and I don't know what. The cockatrice was alive and fighting and then suddenly it wasn't.

Sounds like the Warrior's charge attack. That thing can be crazy.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Cbouncerrun posted:

Sounds like the Warrior's charge attack. That thing can be crazy.
Yeah I've seen those do that before, but there were no warriors in my party this time, I had a sorcerer, a mage, and a ranger. I wondered if it was the sorcerer (she is a friend pawn and rather over-leveled) but I didn't see any big spell effect or anything, it was pretty dark out and all I saw was the cockatrice fall out of the air dead.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Samurai Sanders posted:

Uh...what attack can take off four bars of a cockatrice's life in one hit? One of my pawns did it I guess and I don't know what. The cockatrice was alive and fighting and then suddenly it wasn't.

I've noticed that when I do an aimed shot at the cockatrice's neck pouch when it's charging and blinking, it will take over a bar of health away and I'm using a poo poo short bow.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah, but come to think of it...do you ever get a chance to fight one for serious?

Postgame has two beefed-up versions of them in a single room, flanked by a whole bunch of the top-tier saurians. Postgame doesn't play very nice at times.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah I've seen those do that before, but there were no warriors in my party this time, I had a sorcerer, a mage, and a ranger. I wondered if it was the sorcerer (she is a friend pawn and rather over-leveled) but I didn't see any big spell effect or anything, it was pretty dark out and all I saw was the cockatrice fall out of the air dead.

Maybe the Ranger had a Maker's Finger or something.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Stelas posted:

Postgame has two beefed-up versions of them in a single room, flanked by a whole bunch of the top-tier saurians. Postgame doesn't play very nice at times.
Yeah, I ran into those, and killed them. It's the only time all three of my pawns have ever been killed (well, stoned).

The bigger problem was those white saurians though. What are they weak against? Nothing any of my people had equipped anyway.

Cbouncerrun posted:

Maybe the Ranger had a Maker's Finger or something.
A, the ranger pawn is my main pawn, and 2, I know what the maker's finger looks like, someone actually hacked the demo and demonstrated it back before release.

Spork o Doom
May 31, 2011

Stelas posted:

Postgame has two beefed-up versions of them in a single room, flanked by a whole bunch of the top-tier saurians. Postgame doesn't play very nice at times.

That fight came within a potion of killing me after what felt like a half hour battle. Ran through all my potions to stop petrifaction, got one down long after it had killed my Mage and Ranger and then lost my last pawn! Ran around kiting the drat thing into my walls of fire and counting down the remaining potions before killing it with a fraction of life left. Dont think I ever felt so drat pumped and relieved from a computer game encounter. I found that room far harder than the wight plus chimeras room.

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


Stelas posted:

Postgame has two beefed-up versions of them in a single room, flanked by a whole bunch of the top-tier saurians. Postgame doesn't play very nice at times.

There's also one of them at the extinction site post-game where the griffon normally is. Surprised the hell out of me.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Stelas posted:

Postgame has two beefed-up versions of them in a single room, flanked by a whole bunch of the top-tier saurians. Postgame doesn't play very nice at times.

Is it just trying to be hard or does it get to "Choke on deez nuts, Puny Player!!" masochism levels?

gibbed
Apr 10, 2006

Geostomp posted:

Is it just trying to be hard or does it get to "Choke on deez nuts, Puny Player!!" masochism levels?
I've done that fight several times, it's not that difficult. It's mostly just being aware of where the cockatrices are so you can avoid their barf.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

Geostomp posted:

Is it just trying to be hard or does it get to "Choke on deez nuts, Puny Player!!" masochism levels?

Some post-game areas can be a bit of a shock, especially after you've been waltzing through the main game for about twenty levels, but just like the main game it doesn't scale - all it's really doing is shifting the goalposts. Farming some postgame equipment and getting some levels under your belt makes it significantly easier, and how you approach the postgame dungeon's entirely up to you. Once you know what spawns where you can avoid it completely.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

TehGherkin posted:

Haha, yes it was :3: Tell her I said thanks for the feedback and the friend request, I will definitely get round to using her pawn at some point, I'm just at that point in the game where I'm starting to have actual okay items to gift sometimes, so I'll take her pawn on for a couple good quests then give him/her something cool. It's strange you should say he climbs on cyclops and such, I've never once seen him do that, although to be fair I'm the strider so I'm usually climbing up on poo poo myself.

That's probably why he's climbing everything in sight. Pawns ape their masters, so if you climb monsters a lot then he's going to do that himself when given the opportunity.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah I've seen those do that before, but there were no warriors in my party this time, I had a sorcerer, a mage, and a ranger. I wondered if it was the sorcerer (she is a friend pawn and rather over-leveled) but I didn't see any big spell effect or anything, it was pretty dark out and all I saw was the cockatrice fall out of the air dead.

Almost certainly Great Gamble on the ranger.

Incidentally, if anybody has not personally used that skill before, you need to switch to ranger right now and rank it to 9 for that skill because it's one of the most amazing things in the game. I've one-shotted a gorechimera with it. And unlike that loving magick archer skill it doesn't use pawns as ammunition, it just eats all your stamina which you can deal with by getting Grit from strider or eating a stamina item.

Owl Inspector fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Jun 25, 2012

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Gestalt Intellect posted:

Almost certainly Great Gamble on the ranger.

Incidentally, if anybody has not personally used that skill before, you need to switch to ranger right now and rank it to 9 for that skill because it's one of the most amazing things in the game. I've one-shotted a gorechimera with it. And unlike that loving magick archer skill it doesn't use pawns as ammunition, it just eats all your stamina which you can deal with by getting Grit from strider or eating a stamina item.

Does Liquid Vim work?

Seashell Salesman
Aug 4, 2005

Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!
That Asalam escort mission is doubly horrible because if he dies you can't rest in Gran Soren until god knows when.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

The Lone Badger posted:

Does Liquid Vim work?

I've never tried it since it seemed like kind of a waste to use a whole liquid vim for that when you could just eat a mushroom, but I've never seen anything lower stamina under any circumstances while vim is active, so it almost certainly works. You just have to use the item before you fire, since you'll still go through the ten seconds of gasping and such if you use vim after your stamina has already run out.

Thievery
Jul 15, 2008

What happens in 3rd Street stays in 3rd Street.

Nahxela posted:

There's a ladder at some point, which has a cave/tunnel next to it, leading to a series of water slides.

I came up the wrong side of this (bottom of the water slides) and then just used a harpy to carry me up. Fun.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Geostomp posted:

Is it just trying to be hard or does it get to "Choke on deez nuts, Puny Player!!" masochism levels?
The only masochistic thing in the game is probably Ur-Dragon late generation. It's just dumb.

Post game loses a lot of its teeth once you upgrade your weapon since they have such higher stats. Combine that with bloodlust from the assassin tree and you probably just gained about 1000 strength. Even then it's still a lot of fun because things don't die super fast so you actually get to use your loot/skills again if you were overpowering the main game.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

mundermensch posted:

What does the magic attribute do for classes that don't have any obvious use for it, like fighters/warriors/assassins?

There are some permanently enchanted weapons that have a magic stat even for the melee classes, so having a better magic stat will improve those.

Samurai Sanders posted:

Uh...what attack can take off four bars of a cockatrice's life in one hit? One of my pawns did it I guess and I don't know what. The cockatrice was alive and fighting and then suddenly it wasn't.

Could it have been the instant kill spell? I don't know the name, but there is a (sorceror only?) spell that will instantly kill anything in its radius if it goes off with something inside it. I've only seen one hired pawn use it once, though--it's either not high priority or takes too long to pull off for most pawns to bother.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
What exactly happens after you get the duke's ring back and fight the cockatrice? I just drove the cockatrice off and the chamberlain is telling me that I should finish all my business before going on this new quest that will take me far from Gran Soren.

Basically will it cancel the quests I currently have or am I good or what?

Dirt
May 26, 2003

Sooo I got the Platinum Trophy last night. Clocked in 89 hours and 49 minutes over two play through's. Not bad :haw: Magic Archer on the first run, then Mystic Knight. Both classes were pretty fun, MK was really powerful in the end though. I maxed Assassin, but switched back to MK, because I liked it more.

Basically, I loved this game. This was the second game I liked enough to bother to get the Platinum(Dragon Age: Origins is the other one). I really hope they make a sequel.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

Sheep posted:

Basically will it cancel the quests I currently have or am I good or what?

You're approaching endgame. It's also a cutoff point that will close off a whole lot of sidequests. Ones you've picked up from the boards are fine, but any quests given to you by people, you might want to concentrate on completing.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Stelas posted:

You're approaching endgame. It's also a cutoff point that will close off a whole lot of sidequests. Ones you've picked up from the boards are fine, but any quests given to you by people, you might want to concentrate on completing.

This game delights in locking you out of quests. I just rerolled again because I got locked out of "Lost and Found" and "Witch Hunt".

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

Lotish posted:

Could it have been the instant kill spell? I don't know the name, but there is a (sorceror only?) spell that will instantly kill anything in its radius if it goes off with something inside it. I've only seen one hired pawn use it once, though--it's either not high priority or takes too long to pull off for most pawns to bother.
Yeah, from your description SS it sounds like the sorcerer had Exequy and spent the whole fight charging it.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Don't forget that quest completion counts for New Game +, so you don't need to restart to get those quests--just snag them on your next time through. I've got a few I need to do--notably I need to do Bad Business and Quina's flower quest (it would have helped if you'd told me I had a time limit, cos).

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:
So now Fournival has the floaty pinkness over his head whenever I talk to him, I'd better not see his rear end get kidnapped by the Dragon, as that would be horrifying and hilarious.

Unrelated, is there anything at the Mysterious Shore just outside Cassardis since I've looked around and seen nothing, but the name of the area just screams that something is here.

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy
Why is it every time I burst into the inn with my weapons brandished I hear a little "bwoop" sound effect, like some meter is going down? Is the innkeeper getting mad at me?

Gyoru
Jul 13, 2004



notZaar posted:

Why is it every time I burst into the inn with my weapons brandished I hear a little "bwoop" sound effect, like some meter is going down? Is the innkeeper getting mad at me?

Yeah that specific sound effect is the sound of some NPC getting pissed at you. Examples where it happens include running into certain NPCs or having your weapon drawn in the throne room. Feste :argh:

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011
It lowers affinity so if you don't want to gut Azalam and go to jail just do that over and over.

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Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?

You also can't set yourself on fire and wander around the city.

The guards catch you, but if you just idle on the text that comes up you can keep burning them to death since it appears that the freeze that happens when an interactive text box appears stops everything from moving, but doesn't stop fire damage or affinity decreases.

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