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Bizob posted:Also he wanted out of Cleveland because every time he put on that uniform he was reminded that Delonte West banged his mom. Actually, he was reminded in Washington one day by a fan. It was hilarious, and he had to be held back.
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Also, its hilarious how Skip completely ignores all the specific basketball questions Mark Cuban asks him.
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haljordan posted:Also, its hilarious how Skip completely ignores all the specific basketball questions Mark Cuban asks him. He literally didn't understand Cuban's point about Skip Bayless's opinions not being the same thing as facts
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Jun 22, 2012 20:06
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I like the little jab that the Thunder are dumb (because they were in that series)
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Jun 22, 2012 20:07
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Lebron had 13 assists in Game 5, doesn't seem very selfish to me 
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seiferguy posted:Lebron had 13 assists in Game 5, doesn't seem very selfish to me Not aggressive enough.
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Medical Sword posted:He literally didn't understand Cuban's point about Skip Bayless's opinions not being the same thing as facts "That's all I use on this program" Skip is gifted in that he possesses the ability to fool himself into believing himself.
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The bit at he end was amazing with Cuban asking Skip what type of defense OKC were using agaisnt Lebron and Bayless just starts stammering a list of players they had on him while Cuban calmly repeats the question.  : "Why do you run a zone, Skip?"
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I think the thing that fascinates me the most is that Mark Cuban is the owner of a basketball team. He bought a basketball team because he made a lot of money doing stuff unrelated to basketball, and made a shrewd business investment so he could make a lot of money specifically related to basketball. He doesn't actually need to know about basketball at all. Art Rooney would never come on to First Take and talk about the changes to the Steelers' zone blocking scheme (maybe Al Davis would have). But he's a really loving smart guy who has learned that knowing about basketball helps him be a better owner. He both knows enough that he had at least general breakdowns of the defensive schemes in a basketball game that didn't involve his team, and to be knowledgeable but vague enough explaining the Mavs' defensive schemes that he didn't particularly give anything away because he'd like them to win another championship some day. That was awesome and everyone here knows sports programming needs more Mark Cuban style breakdown and analysis, and it won't happen.
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Jun 23, 2012 06:06
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Badfinger posted:That was awesome and everyone here knows sports programming needs more Mark Cuban style breakdown and analysis, and it won't happen. My favorite ESPN show for years was Edge NFL Matchup with Ron Jaworski because he broke down things I would never see in a million years but did it in a way that was not condescending at all.
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Jun 23, 2012 07:18
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Frot Lesnar posted:My favorite ESPN show for years was Edge NFL Matchup with Ron Jaworski because he broke down things I would never see in a million years but did it in a way that was not condescending at all. I love Ron Jaworski and hate that ESPN has peter principle'd him into all his hours and hours of diligent film study translating into 10 second sound clips of him going "WHAM BLOCK, NEATO".
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Jun 23, 2012 07:20
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NFL Matchup is probably the best show ESPN has ever had, so of course it has aired exclusively at like 2 in the morning for its entire run.
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Jaworski's got some QB Ranking feature going on for ESPN right now, because if there's two things ESPN loves, they are 1) talking more about quarterbacks and 2) list features that drive pageviews through fan outrage. But I see more value in this particular feature than others of its type because Jaworski does at least do a bit of film breakdown in his ~3 minute summary of each starter, talking about reading the coverage, picking up the blitz, the window of the throw, and so forth. There's a clear methodology to it and it's actually relaying information about the position, even when he's talking about some schmuck like Kevin Kolb. It's worlds apart from some random rear end in a top hat saying 'QB X is better than QB Y because he throws for more yards and his team wins more'.
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MourningView posted:NFL Matchup is probably the best show ESPN has ever had, so of course it has aired exclusively at like 2 in the morning for its entire run. I only recently got a DVR so I am shocked it hasn't been cancelled yet. From wikipedia As of the 2008-2009 NFL season, it airs every Sunday during the season on ESPN at 3:00am ET, then re-airs at 7:30am ET.
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Badfinger posted:I think the thing that fascinates me the most is that Mark Cuban is the owner of a basketball team. He bought a basketball team because he made a lot of money doing stuff unrelated to basketball, and made a shrewd business investment so he could make a lot of money specifically related to basketball. I remember living in Atlanta, back when Cuban had just bought the Mavs, and both they and the Hawks were REALLY bad. Cuban was on the radio talking about why he bought the Mavs, and when the interviewer ended with "and i'm sure that there are a bunch of tickets available for the game tonight", Cuban just up and announces that he's buying all the tickets left and if anyone wants a ticket, he'll be hanging out in front of the arena all day and to just ask him for one. It blew the radio station people's minds that someone would/could do that, and Cuban's response? "I'm not giving away Hawks tickets, i'm giving away tickets to see the Mavs."
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Badfinger posted:I love Ron Jaworski and hate that ESPN has peter principle'd him into all his hours and hours of diligent film study translating into 10 second sound clips of him going "WHAM BLOCK, NEATO". I'm hoping Jaws' removal from the MNF booth will mean more analysis from him, and less color-guy sound bites.
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So how long before somebody writes a contrarian article decrying Sandusky getting the crap convicted out of him?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:So how long before somebody writes a contrarian article decrying Sandusky getting the crap convicted out of him? They already did a commercial to try to rehab his image. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q4txN1ut20&t=234s
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Jun 23, 2012 16:20
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Ugh, I feel like I need a shower after watching that.
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Some front pages, courtesy of Newseum: The Morning-Call, Allentown, PA The Patriot-News, Harrisburg, PA Altoona Mirror, Altoona, PA The Times-Tribune, Scranton, PA Centre Daily Times, State College, PA The Citizens' Voice, Wilkes-Barre, PA All pretty drat good, LOVE the presentation by The Morning-Call, The Citizens' Voice and Centre Daily Times. LARGE THE HEAD fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jun 23, 2012 |
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Badfinger posted:That was awesome and everyone here knows sports programming needs more Mark Cuban style breakdown and analysis, and it won't happen. THIS. I don't like the current direction ESPN has gone down. They shouldn't be embracing the Mark May's, Stephen A. Smith's and Colin Cowherd's of the world. I'd love to see people who study film, and just immerse than themselves within the game, much like how the aforementioned Jaws does. That's more impressive to me as a fan. Not screaming about some opinion you probably don't believe in anyways, but actual knowledge of the game.
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FuzzySkinner posted:THIS. Their first marketable star was Chris Berman, so they haven't dropped far.
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They deal with vague generalities because it immunizes them from being wrong. If you cite specific tactics and objective things like Cuban did in that video, you can be proven wrong (not to mention you actually have to pay attention, watch something other than the guy with the ball, etc.). If I talk about: grittiness, guttiness, wanted it more, momentum, doesn't know how to finish, chokes in the end, clutchiness, and on and on, it's meaningless and just about impossible to argue with.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:They deal with vague generalities because it immunizes them from being wrong. If you cite specific tactics and objective things like Cuban did in that video, you can be proven wrong (not to mention you actually have to pay attention, watch something other than the guy with the ball, etc.). And by being nearly impossible to argue with, that means the argument can go on forever without actually saying anything or doing any research. Being an ESPN talking head has to be a cake job.
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BasicFunk posted:And by being nearly impossible to argue with, that means the argument can go on forever without actually saying anything or doing any research. Being an ESPN talking head has to be a cake job. Yeah, all they have to do is watch a few minutes and develop a quick opinion (not necessarily in that order).
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It's a tough thing because on a basic level it's hard to justify dictating to people what they should want, and obviously a lot of fans want talking heads, so they can get riled up and excited about sports reporting just like they do about the games. All you can really say in the end is that it's a shame, though not a surprise, that ESPN and whomever else doesn't make more of an effort to encourage intellectual discourse. Oh well. That's one of the cool things about the Internet, the democratization of discourse
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Say what you will about Drew Magary, but the line about Michael Jordan being the black Daniel Plainview was pretty terrific.
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MourningView posted:Erin Andrews in particular seems to draw a lot of weirdly vitriolic coverage. Daulerio was the guy who originally posted the stalker video, which did not exactly endear him to Erin Andrews. A couple takedown requests later, and some threats to sue...and Gawker is still absolutely petty about the whole thing. All of Gawker's random feuds are people who haven't let themselves get pushed around by Daulerio + Denton. AsInHowe fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Jun 26, 2012 |
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Jun 26, 2012 04:29
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Tae posted:Actually, he was reminded in Washington one day by a fan. It was hilarious, and he had to be held back. Please tell me there's more to this.
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Brian Phillips' first Wimbledon piece for Grantland is really great: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8097092/a-visit-all-england-club-wimbledon-kickoff-2012-tournament
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General Dog posted:Say what you will about Drew Magary, but the line about Michael Jordan being the black Daniel Plainview was pretty terrific.  Link?
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C-Euro posted:
http://deadspin.com/5920502/lebron-james-world-champion-cocksucker?tag=lebronjames
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So the Bleacher Report purchase by Time Warner is well known at this point, but my friend that works in a tech area for Turner told me about this a while ago. Apparently they explored purchasing a few different sports blog sites (including buying Deadspin off of Gawker) with the intent of merging their existing content (nba.com, pgatour.com, etc.) with the site that they would end up purchasing. So yeah, B/R will likely be the platform for the official site of the NBA. Apparently all of the web developers for existing Turner sports sites (SI.com is not part of the Turner sports platform) have been told to start looking for new gigs. So I guess they are paying $200M for B/R's SEO algorithms and existing page views? I'm not smart enough to know whether or not they're worth that (although I'm guessing it's not). On the plus side, look for a lot of Elin Nordegren/Amy Mickelson montages on the official PGA site soon.
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The SEO shenanigans from Bleacher Report aren't really pushed by a tech backend, it's editorial. And Google has been cracking down on all their tricks. And a lot of the stuff that is worked into the page templates is pretty bad, they have multiple H1 tags on pages for example.
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leokitty posted:The SEO shenanigans from Bleacher Report aren't really pushed by a tech backend, it's editorial. And Google has been cracking down on all their tricks. And a lot of the stuff that is worked into the page templates is pretty bad, they have multiple H1 tags on pages for example. Multiple H1's are fine as long as they're not nested. Their SEO is like $5 ebook bad though, and if that's why they were acquired there's gonna be some disappointment.
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$200 million for the Bleacher Report. I would really love to know how companies come up with these prices.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/peyton-manning-aboard-broncos-receivers-actually-learn-routes-065559673--nfl.html Hey Yahoo, you were beaten on this story 3 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nae70NoCn1M
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haljordan posted:$200 million for the Bleacher Report. I would really love to know how companies come up with these prices. The rich have absolutely no sense in value after a certain amount. There's little difference between 200 and 500 million to a billion dollar corporation.
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Tae posted:The rich have absolutely no sense in value after a certain amount. There's little difference between 200 and 500 million to a billion dollar corporation. Having taken mergers and acquisition classes you can justify any price your boss tells you to.
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Erin Andrews is leaving ESPN for FOX, which means after years of the Andrews vs. Beadle stuff they ended up both leaving.
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