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Really disappointed and uninterested in the way this game is turning out. The bad dialogue and whatnot, I can handle. But all these tiresome little gameplay things, the lining up with your co-op partner to open a door, the little quicktime events with the icon of the radius with a line through it... I just cannot be bothered. On the other hand, it's good to see Capcom can still bring it with graphics and weirdly art design. Environmental/character design anyway. Locations are always pretty interesting in Resident Evil.
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Unless they change the forced co-op significantly from RE5 I'm not buying this. RE5 was really fun with a real person as player 2, but I like replaying games on my own, and I just couldn't do it with AI Sheva or online players using infinite rocket launchers.
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Jun 20, 2012 17:03
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I played Resident Evil 5 completely through twice with my brother, who is probably just as bad as the Sheva AI (We got 10 deaths one chapter because of the crocodiles), but I had a complete blast. It's one of my favorite games because of that. If RE6 plays similarly, I'll probably have just as much fun.
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Jun 20, 2012 17:23
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People playing it at E3 say that AI partners are much smarter in that they stay out of your way and don't use your supplies as much. I think Revelations had partners for 90% of the game and they were fine.
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Jun 20, 2012 17:46
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timeandtide posted:People playing it at E3 say that AI partners are much smarter in that they stay out of your way and don't use your supplies as much. The partners in Revelations were literally invincible and had infinite ammo.
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Jun 20, 2012 17:50
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^ Partners in RE6 are the same, from what I'm hearing. The thing that bothers me the most is the lack of reaction when you shoot an enemy.
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Jun 20, 2012 18:01
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See, I don't understand why Capcom didn't do that for RE5: have them invincible/infinite ammo (or at least super beefed up) for while they're AI-controlled, then if someone jumps in they turn into a regular player character. Maybe there's some programming answer I'm not aware of.
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Jun 20, 2012 18:09
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timeandtide posted:See, I don't understand why Capcom didn't do that for RE5: have them invincible/infinite ammo (or at least super beefed up) for while they're AI-controlled, then if someone jumps in they turn into a regular player character. Probably balance issues. RE5 was balanced pretty tightly and having an invincible super-partner tends to trivialize things in a bad way. Give Sheva a magnum with infinite ammo and you get a good example of it.
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Jun 20, 2012 18:44
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Has there ever been an example of a persona in a survival horror game being "saved" and then not either becoming your tag along partner or immediately getting killed? I mean I know it's hard to have random shlubs in zombie world just being left alone but honestly at this point who didn't immediately see dad getting eaten by his daughter the second he mentioned her. It just feels so cliched. The closest thing I can think about is that guy at the beginning of RE3 that Jill leaves in the locked crate who eventually kills himself. Having said that the game still looks good to me at least.
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Jun 20, 2012 19:28
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Radish posted:Has there ever been an example of a persona in a survival horror game being "saved" and then not either becoming your tag along partner or immediately getting killed? I mean I know it's hard to have random shlubs in zombie world just being left alone but honestly at this point who didn't immediately see dad getting eaten by his daughter the second he mentioned her. It just feels so cliched. The closest thing I can think about is that guy at the beginning of RE3 that Jill leaves in the locked crate who eventually kills himself. Does House of the Dead count?
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Jun 20, 2012 19:54
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Son Ryo posted:Does House of the Dead count? I'd say that being a light gun arcade shooter it doesn't but that's good thinking!
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Jun 20, 2012 20:12
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Why do we want AI to be invincible? I honestly don't remember Sheva ever dying when she was AI.
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Jun 21, 2012 06:53
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Matt Cruea posted:Why do we want AI to be invincible? I honestly don't remember Sheva ever dying when she was AI. I don't know about the easier difficulties but on Professional enemies would straight up ignore AI Sheva (unless you're in one of sections where you have to defend her while she opens a door or something). I distinctly remember testing this out by barricading her outside of the house in the village and laughing when they didn't attack her at all. Makes sense though, since Pro was bullshit enough without punishing you for the AI loving up. Josh on the other hand... gently caress me did the enemies have it out for him. You couldn't heal him, so if anything hit him he died instantly and it was game over. Other than the equally bullshit Gigante fight, that's where I died the most on Pro.
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Jun 21, 2012 07:32
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On Professional, Sheva would constantly die at the end. Like that last 15 minutes with like the exploding hallway gauntlet. She died a lot with the Wesker fight too.
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Jun 21, 2012 07:43
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Like I said, my brother might have died more than any AI ever would, and he was stupidly misleading, like saying that shooting Jill in that fight would kill her, which made us spend two hours on that stupid fight. Anyway, ORC is getting some awful reviews, but is it worth a rent? Could I have a ton of fun with it in multi-player? I'm also going to pick up Revolations for the 3DS. Looks like really good reviews, but how long is the game and how good is the replay value vs Resident Evil 4/5?
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Jun 21, 2012 13:39
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Flameingblack posted:Anyway, ORC is getting some awful reviews, but is it worth a rent? Could I have a ton of fun with it in multi-player? If you play single player it will be short and a little tedious and you won't get to try out as much of the fun stuff in the game. Multi-player is where the game haphazardly shines and I had a ton of fun with it and probably ended up playing through it a couple of dozen times through various online campaign play sessions.
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Jun 21, 2012 14:05
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Flameingblack posted:Like I said, my brother might have died more than any AI ever would, and he was stupidly misleading, like saying that shooting Jill in that fight would kill her, which made us spend two hours on that stupid fight. You really can't understand how playing with another human being whom you presumably like and are talking to in the same room as you is inherently different from and going to be a better experience than dealing with some lovely AI robot, no matter how lovely the dude on the couch is at the game?
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Jun 21, 2012 14:07
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Bonaventure posted:You really can't understand how playing with another human being whom you presumably like and are talking to in the same room as you is inherently different from and going to be a better experience than dealing with some lovely AI robot, no matter how lovely the dude on the couch is at the game?  VBy the end of our first playthrough and our Professional playthrough, I certainly didn't like him though!
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Jun 21, 2012 14:09
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So I picked up ORC, it's definitely not mind blowing but I can see myself killing a couple more afternoons with it. If anyone is still playing feel free to throw an invite to GT: Docfail
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Jun 24, 2012 17:16
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I tried playing co op on one screen in RE 5, holy poo poo that was so bad can't see poo poo on a 40 inch screen. I like how they decided to not bother using the whole screen.
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Jun 24, 2012 17:55
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Steinuh posted:I tried playing co op on one screen in RE 5, holy poo poo that was so bad can't see poo poo on a 40 inch screen. I like how they decided to not bother using the whole screen. They did the same with lost planet 2, no idea what the hell is wrong with Capcom, if you're gonna half rear end splitscreen like that, why bother including it in the first place.
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Jun 24, 2012 18:30
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Alteisen posted:They did the same with lost planet 2, no idea what the hell is wrong with Capcom, if you're gonna half rear end splitscreen like that, why bother including it in the first place. I think it's to keep the same screen ratio. If I am not mistaken I think Uncharted 3 does split screen like that. If it didn't things would look really stretched and distorted.
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Jun 24, 2012 18:49
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I've picked up Operation Raccoon City from the B2G1 sale at Gamestop. It's way more fun (in my opinion) than the reviews and reputation make it out to be. I would play co-op, but I probably will play pretty sporadically throughout the next week; I'm still having a ton of fun in single player. Game feels kinda like a third person Left 4 Dead in the Resident Evil universe. The teammates are a little dumb wandering in front of you and taking cover in the range of damaging fire, but other than that I haven't had any problems whatsoever. e: But if you're on when I am and wanna jump in my campaign, my PSN is SA_Soul_Glo. Soul Glo fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Jul 2, 2012 |
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Jul 2, 2012 01:41
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Can you play it coop split screen?
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Jul 2, 2012 02:33
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Nope. Would have been a buy for me if it had.
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Jul 2, 2012 02:42
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blackguy32 posted:I think it's to keep the same screen ratio. If I am not mistaken I think Uncharted 3 does split screen like that. If it didn't things would look really stretched and distorted. Tons of modern games do it Call of Duty: World at War was the first place I remember seeing it.
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Jul 2, 2012 02:53
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More Leon RE6 gameplay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqc3076Xu6
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Jul 2, 2012 05:23
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Anyone know when the demo is supposed to go live for Dragon's Dogma buyers?
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Jul 3, 2012 07:32
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The demo is up and it's the E3 stuff. The game is loving glorious. GLORIOUS. ..Though I have a complaint that the enemies aren't as reactive as RE5's. The contextual melee stuff seems a bit confusing too, though it's definitely still there in some manner. The enemies don't obviously go into a long stun state that allows you to do 'leg/arm/head' stuff like before, and the way the sounds/reactions of the enemies mesh together makes it feel like the weapons have less impact than the previous two games. Also the camera/aiming feels a bit 'loose', though I'm sure there will be a way to adjust sensitivity. Things I noticed while messing around with it are: There is no true pausing, going into options just makes your character crouch there like a moron looking at a PDA. (fantastic for multiplayer when your partner doesn't realize this) You can turn off the crosshair and just have only laser sight, and also can change the color of the sight. Melee weapons have their own contextual melee attacks.. I think. There's definitely melee weapon-only counters and attacks at the very least. Also they don't drain melee stamina. You can switch between right and left handed aiming by clicking in the right analogue stick. There's also firing modes for the guns! Sherry's pistol has burst and single shot! In fact, it seems like melee is even more powerful in this game than the others. Your guns are pretty decent and deal damage but running up to some dude and decking them (or using Sherry's stun rod) does monster damage. The stamina gauge is definitely there for a reason, or else the optimal option in every fight would be to start going bananas on folks.
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Jul 3, 2012 12:27
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God I can't wait. Is the demo coming to the PS3?
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Jul 3, 2012 12:34
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Capcom is infuriatingly frustrating when it comes to stuff like that. I've got to buy another Capcom game to get a demo, or wait 60 days to play it with everyone else. That's not cool.
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Jul 3, 2012 14:26
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How does the early-access stuff actually work? Would I need to outright buy DD and it come as a code or something, or could I rent the game and have access to the demo?
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Jul 3, 2012 14:34
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Fraction posted:How does the early-access stuff actually work? Would I need to outright buy DD and it come as a code or something, or could I rent the game and have access to the demo? The code is on the back of the manual.
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Jul 3, 2012 14:43
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ImpAtom posted:The code is on the back of the manual. and you have to download it from the Dragons Dogma main menu. Once it's downloaded you don't need the DD disc anymore to play.
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Jul 3, 2012 21:58
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Do we know when the demo will be available to everyone? I'm tempted to actually pick up DD to give RE6 a try.
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Jul 3, 2012 22:51
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citizenlowell posted:Do we know when the demo will be available to everyone? I'm tempted to actually pick up DD to give RE6 a try. About 2 months from now I think.
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Jul 3, 2012 23:04
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I didn't like the RE6 demo at all. The Leon stuff had some potential, although it suffered from the same dodgy controls as the rest of the game, but the Chris section was flat-out awful. It's bad enough that this Gears of War-style cover shooter stuff has no place in a Resident Evil game in the first place, but they didn't even do a good job with it. The enemies barely react to your gunshots at all (can't believe we went from RE4/5's incredible weapon feedback to this), and the game has the most over-the-top implementation of auto aim I've ever experienced. Melee looks cool, but it's fairly clunky, and poorly implemented compared to how it was used in the previous games, whilst item managment is horrible. (The UI in general is really poor) It's kind of hard to describe how off everything in the game feels without actually playing it yourself. Character movement is super weird - the dedicated run button has gone, but movement speed isn't fixed... you just sort of run as fast as Leon/Chris decide is best for the situation, whilst aiming feels really loose. I guess it all just feels really shoddily put together, especially when the core mechanics of 4 and 5 are so incredibly solid. I'm just really, really disappointed. Resident Evil 4 is still my favourite game of all time, and I've been a huge fan of the franchise as a whole since the original RE came out. This is a huge let down, especially considering how much I enjoyed Revelations earlier this year. Ein Bear fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jul 3, 2012 |
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Jul 3, 2012 23:24
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ImpAtom posted:The code is on the back of the manual. Is the code multi-use then? It'll work from a rental copy's manual if someone's used the code before? If so, I'm running out to blockbusters to pick up DD tomorrow. I've been meaning to rent it anyway so this'd be the icing on the cake.
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Jul 3, 2012 23:29
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Fraction posted:Is the code multi-use then? It'll work from a rental copy's manual if someone's used the code before? No you have to redeem it through XBL so I am assuming it's not multi use. Although if you rent a copy today it probably hasn't been used yet. Do rental games still come with manuals? Are there still Blockbusters?
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I don't know if it's cool to post a link to it or not, but some guys on GAF have stuck the demo up to download and put on a USB stick to play.
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