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wdarkk posted:What, did they find a cache of spare parts somewhere? Or is 3-D printing going to insane new levels? Balsa prices just skyrocketed.
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wdarkk posted:What, did they find a cache of spare parts somewhere? Or is 3-D printing going to insane new levels? Dude, you can print food with those things.
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wdarkk posted:What, did they find a cache of spare parts somewhere? Or is 3-D printing going to insane new levels?
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Have we reached the point that these birds are now so priceless that regardless the cost, they'll be repaired? On one hand, that makes me happy.
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A better question is, have we reached a point where enough parts have CAD drawings that we can feed metal into a machine and it will spit out the parts? Because I am totally down with reopening production.
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Jul 10, 2012 06:16
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Advent Horizon posted:A better question is, have we reached a point where enough parts have CAD drawings that we can feed metal into a machine and it will spit out the parts? Because I am totally down with reopening production. I'd love to see something like the P-51 retooled into a light CAS platform with modern avionics and poo poo. Even if it was a one-off, it would be wunderbar.
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Jul 10, 2012 07:12
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Piper tried that. It looked pretty awesome as well. 
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HeyEng posted:I'd love to see something like the P-51 retooled into a light CAS platform with modern avionics and poo poo. Even if it was a one-off, it would be wunderbar. With a little more updating, you'd end up with a Super Tucano.
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Chiwie posted:Piper tried that. Well, there's the solution to the Super Tucano vs AT-6 standoff. Just bring this puppy back with a 2-seat cockpit and modern avionics, and a formal proposal consisting of two words: "MUSTANGS, BITCH."
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Does anyone have desktop-sized professional shots of the Bugatti racer, preferably 2560x1600? GIS isn't turning up anything.
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Beerios posted:Well, there's the solution to the Super Tucano vs AT-6 standoff. Just bring this puppy back with a 2-seat cockpit and modern avionics, and a formal proposal consisting of two words: "MUSTANGS, BITCH." I would buy it. That is sexy as hell. EDIT: I've seen it all now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Skyfox 
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Breakfast All Day posted:Does anyone have desktop-sized professional shots of the Bugatti racer, preferably 2560x1600? GIS isn't turning up anything. You might try e-mailing both the EAA museum, and the Bugatti 100p replica guys. There are some official EAA pictures from when they had it out of the museum in front of the Pitcairn hangar that are pretty nice, but I've not seen them at full res. Post if you get them. 
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HeyEng posted:I'd love to see something like the P-51 retooled into a light CAS platform with modern avionics and poo poo. Even if it was a one-off, it would be wunderbar. gently caress that, bring back Skyraiders. Or an F82 somehow.
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DEVILDOGOOORAH posted:gently caress that, bring back Skyraiders. RETRO USAF would be amazing. Super updated F-4 Phantoms and poo poo. 
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Advent Horizon posted:A better question is, have we reached a point where enough parts have CAD drawings that we can feed metal into a machine and it will spit out the parts? Because I am totally down with reopening production. For the B-17? Most of those drawings aren't even digitized. And, most of the original drawings are done with the expectation that small parts will be hand-fitted. Even major stuff was done with an attitude that we'd consider unacceptably sloppy today - for instance, the 307 Stratoliner in Udvar-Hazy (which shares a lot of parts with the B-17) was built with an extra wing rib on one side. It's not just that we're not making the parts any more; production was fundamentally very different back then. Even if you had a friendly wizard give you full set of CAD models for every B-17 part, and a magic program that could turn 3D models into CNC/3D printer programs without any human intervention, you'd have to do a lot more work than just bolting the pile of resulting parts together. HeyEng posted:RETRO USAF would be amazing. Super updated F-4 Phantoms and poo poo. Well, if that's what you're after, there's one air force out there who has Phantoms and no annoying post-1980 US aircraft cluttering up their inventory. Hell, if you can find some F-14 parts nobody's using, they'd probably even give you a ride!
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drat, man, you're a buzzkill. You don't have to be so mean about it  Assuming you took the time to draw up a perfect CAD B-17 and fed that into a CNC mill, the parts would already be built to much better tolerances than stock. You'd have better cast metal, better forged billets and you wouldn't have some random person who couldn't fight doing it all by hand. That's even before you take into account the ability to make much larger and complex pieces from one perfect chunk of metal and have it welded together by a computer before x-raying the weld to make sure it's perfect and won't fail. Would it be expensive? Of course. But imagine a world where rich guys buy one of those for their private plane just for the cool factor!
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CommieGIR posted:I would buy it. That is sexy as hell. Have you seen this?   Burt Rutan's CAS design.
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iyaayas01 posted:Have you seen this? I really need to get my private pilots license.
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Advent Horizon posted:drat, man, you're a buzzkill. You don't have to be so mean about it At this point, you're not building a B-17 from the original design, you're designing and building a new plane that just happens to look very much like a famous WWII bomber. And, as cool as that would be in rich-guy-financed fantasyland, it's not really practical for a restoration job, even a "cut serial number out, weld onto new airplane" project like what's almost certainly going to happen with the Liberty Belle. (also, if you wanted a really badass private plane, the B-29 would be so much better - pressurized comfort, plenty of elbow room, and a panoramic front view!)
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Space Gopher posted:(also, if you wanted a really badass private plane, the B-29 would be so much better - pressurized comfort, plenty of elbow room, and a panoramic front view!) Hopefully the tendency for oil fires is diminished.
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Uhm I'm sorry but gently caress that. I'll roll with a C-130 in my fantasy rich man world.
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That's a good point. It's hard to hold a barbeque in a bomber. I know of a C-123 for sale, though...
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HeyEng posted:Uhm I'm sorry but gently caress that. I'll roll with a C-130 in my fantasy rich man world. I can agree to that. I always wanted to fly one while whistling duck tales for some reason...
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Advent Horizon posted:Would it be expensive? Of course. But imagine a world where rich guys buy one of those for their private plane just for the cool factor! Speaking of the Super Tucano, any idea how much a non-weaponized version could be bought for? EnergizerFellow fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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EnergizerFellow posted:Which is why I'm mildly surprised somebody hasn't taken a crack at full-on reproductions of a Mustang/Bearcat/Spitfire. Seen these? Part for part remakes of the ME-262 (better engines). http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html Haven't heard anything on them lately. Apparently a 2.5 million dollar nazi jet is hard to sell.
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HeyEng posted:Uhm I'm sorry but gently caress that. I'll roll with a C-130 in my fantasy rich man world. I doubt the C-130's safety record is that much better than the B-29. I'd rather lose an engine than deal with the wing box problems.
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Space Gopher posted:At this point, you're not building a B-17 from the original design, you're designing and building a new plane that just happens to look very much like a famous WWII bomber. And, as cool as that would be in rich-guy-financed fantasyland, it's not really practical for a restoration job, even a "cut serial number out, weld onto new airplane" project like what's almost certainly going to happen with the Liberty Belle. If you're going to do that you might as well go the whole hog and do a B-36.
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There's some P-51-Like kit planes out there. I saw a few at the local airfield once. They're a bit small, though, and therefore smaller in performance. http://www.thundermustang.com/ http://www.titanaircraft.com/t-51d.php http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/kitspages/mustang.php
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Slo-Tek posted:Seen these? Part for part remakes of the ME-262 (better engines). They only ever planned to make a few and they finished in 2009. Next?
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Fancy a real P-51 renamed with all the good stuff? Check out the AP-51 Palomino http://www.flugwerk.de/html/page.php?GID=20&SID=5
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DiscoDickTease posted:Fancy a real P-51 renamed with all the good stuff? HeyEng posted:RETRO USAF would be amazing. Super updated F-4 Phantoms and poo poo.
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If any of you aren't subscribed to airboyd.tv's YouTube account, he's got a pile of videos from the Farnborough Air Show, which is on right now. Check them out: http://www.youtube.com/user/airboyd?feature=watch
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I smell the greatest goon project ever cooking in this thread. ...I'll run the wiki.
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We'll be able to land it on the aircraft carrier!
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Advent Horizon posted:I know of a C-123 for sale, though... "Scrub out the Agent Orange residue, and she's all yours!"
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Just developed some film that I took while at the museum. Probably will have 1 or two more shots after this.  img038.jpg by MrDespair, on Flickr
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Does anyone want some free model planes? http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/zip/3131660956.html I'll pick them up if you pay for shipping. Disregard if ad is down. PM me please.
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EnergizerFellow posted:Which is why I'm mildly surprised somebody hasn't taken a crack at full-on reproductions of a Mustang/Bearcat/Spitfire. There's got to be enough rich guys and airshow circuits to make it viable.
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I finally made it out to Blackbird Airpark in Palmdale, CA. It was 100 degrees F and a super hot wind was blowing, the opposite of wind chill factor. Google Maps showed an F-117 on site, turns out I missed it by 2 weeks. There are only 2 on display anywhere - all the radar absorbing surfaces have to be removed and replaced with sheet metal before they can be shown. It was 'taken in for refurbishing', which I interpret as 'oh gently caress we forgot to remove some radar absorbing lug nuts and we dance badly with a four star up our asses'. There are photos of it on the Airpark's web site.            This was underneath the A-12. I am guessing it is part of what moves the rudders. The neighboring park is also very nice.   The tail of the F-14, with the arresting hook, and a tube that appears to dispense delicious nougat.   This is the lone B-52 F model, built with water injection for more power. Do I know how that works? Nope! It is a huge beast that blots out the sun.  A prototype Scaled Composites bizjet.  Hot radial engine: posted. This is a Guiberson A/T 1020 diesel.  Over the fence, one of the space shuttle 747's, possibly being prepped for storage out in the Mojave desert. I suggest that it become the new Vomit Comet and they sell rides to us scrubs, because funding makes those birds go up!
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