|
Cleopatra was greek and married to a greek.
|
#
?
Jul 10, 2012 23:31
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 23, 2024 15:53 |
|
|
SeanBeansShako posted:Empire would have had variety if they hadn't fecking rushed the thing. The DLC units look pretty boss compared to the I hope this doesn't happen with Rome too much. I try my hardest not to buy DLC unless it's proper expansion stuff. Shogun 2 wasn't that bad beyond the clan and blood packs but a setting like what Rome is going to have is just ripe for a million different unit DLCs. hemale in pain fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jul 10, 2012 |
|
#
?
Jul 10, 2012 23:34
|
|
looking line and elite line.
|
GreatKesh posted:What's wrong with an Egyptian faction? Wasn't Cleopatra married to a Roman or am I just bad at history? Around this period of history Egypt was thoroughly Greek-ifed from the conquest of Alexander. In the first Rome game, however, Egypt was portrayed as like, ancient "build the pyramids and make mummies" Egypt which was hundreds of years anachronistic to the game. Rumors floating that Egypt will be that way again in Rome 2.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 00:08
|
|
|
euphronius posted:Cleopatra was greek and married to a greek. Yeah, her brother. Then later produced little Ptolemys with Mark Antony and allegedly Julius Caesar.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 00:09
|
|
|
Flippycunt posted:Around this period of history Egypt was thoroughly Greek-ifed from the conquest of Alexander. In the first Rome game, however, Egypt was portrayed as like, ancient "build the pyramids and make mummies" Egypt which was hundreds of years anachronistic to the game. And that would be just fine because the game would be better with another unique army type.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 00:13
|
|
|
Alchenar posted:And that would be just fine because the game would be better with another unique army type. Nope. But it doesn't take much effort to add flavor while staying true to history. CA just doesn't give a poo poo and rather blow their budget and retarded soft-porn promos. Space Pussy fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jul 11, 2012 |
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 00:16
|
|
|
Yeah, there's a bunch of ways they could jazz up the egyptians without going completely bonkers with it. Speaking of bonkers I hope they bring back all the crazy/bloodthirsty pre-battle speeches 
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 00:21
|
|
|
Honestly as long as the game is mod friendly enough that dudes can come in and change poo poo, they're welcome, in my opinion, to add whatever weird units they want. I mean there is gonna be a realism mod out the first week regardless.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 00:28
|
|
RentACop posted:
Seriously, we all want these back.
|
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 00:35
|
|
|
Short version is, at that point it really was a Greek kingdom that just so happened to be Egypt and the oldschool-Egypt from Total War games is like putting napoleonic army in an WWII game. [edit] drat, this thread mives fast when you're not looking.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 00:40
|
|
|
Alchenar posted:And that would be just fine because the game would be better with another unique army type. Might aswell make Iberian Neanderthals and Parthian Achaemenid Persians too! It makes zero sense. Screeching Germans ,bone breaking Thracians and matriarchal Scythians are good because CA used myths and fears to make these factions fearsome and more interesting, making the Macedonic Ptolemaic Empire the pride of Ramses is just stupid. And it's been said a million times and i'll say it again, the Ptolemy Empire was the most rich state in terms of unit variety that a game like this can wish for. Macedonian nobility, Galatian mercenaries, Nubian Ethiopian and Jewish soldiers and a base of Egyptians REALLY pissed off against the ruling class. Egypt tends to be overpowered in pre gunpowder games because the area is simply too rich. Turn it into a high rebelious faction were riches can be obtained but there's almost zero loyalty so you're force to use those riches to hire foreign forces or super bribes. Well, either that or mummified soldiers.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 01:04
|
|
|
SeanBeansShako posted:Seriously, we all want these back. I think I read this in here or somewhere else, but is it true that if your general was an "unhinged loon" he would give an insane speech?
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 01:39
|
|
|
Nimmy posted:I think I read this in here or somewhere else, but is it true that if your general was an "unhinged loon" he would give an insane speech? He does, and it's hilarious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4oFJH8hL90
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 01:58
|
|
|
One thing that annoyies me in Shogun 2 is their ones are so bland and there is only three of them. They should have hired a range of Japanese VA's or Japanese speakers instead of the young guy and old guy. Hell, Napoleon and Empires ones would have been hilariously good as well considering the eccentrics and tyrants leading the armies in that era.
|
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 03:10
|
|
|
RentACop posted:Yeah, there's a bunch of ways they could jazz up the egyptians without going completely bonkers with it.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 09:03
|
|
|
Mans posted:Well, either that or mummified soldiers. On second thought, I want this.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 09:44
|
|
|
There are people that like the original Rome with all of the unique civilizations and then there are people who want historical accuracy in a video game. One of the these groups removed flaming pigs, war-dogs, and chariots from the game and added fifty different variations of spearmen.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 20:37
|
|
|
Has anyone ever done a custom battle with an all war dog army? It reminds me of a bunch of angry insects.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 22:02
|
|
|
Warhammer 40k: Total War is something I really want to see done, dropping dreadnoughts on hordes of orks. It's probably the only futuristic setting that the Total War combat could work for.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 22:15
|
|
|
Farecoal posted:Has anyone ever done a custom battle with an all war dog army? It reminds me of a bunch of angry insects. All dogs versus all peasants or al elephants and such were the only things I ever did with the custom battle option.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 22:23
|
|
|
Farecoal posted:Has anyone ever done a custom battle with an all war dog army? It reminds me of a bunch of angry insects. As far as I'm concerned, stupid custom battles are the primary reason that Rome: Total War exists.
|
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 22:28
|
|
|
I never really understood the flaming pig complaints. It actually happened*! Yeah they didn't crank out tons of them or have a flaming pig corps but why not let players do it if they want to spam a terrible unit? *maybe Apocadall posted:Warhammer 40k: Total War is something I really want to see done, dropping dreadnoughts on hordes of orks. It's probably the only futuristic setting that the Total War combat could work for. Yes. This, or a WFB game that wasn't a terrible medieval 2 mod. It loving prints money The Chad Jihad fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Jul 11, 2012 |
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2012 22:53
|
|
|
Space Pussy posted:Notice the war dog at 1:48 snKestren posted:There are people that like the original Rome with all of the unique civilizations and then there are people who want historical accuracy in a video game. One of the these groups removed flaming pigs, war-dogs, and chariots from the game and added fifty different variations of spearmen.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 00:10
|
|
|
Apocadall posted:Warhammer 40k: Total War is something I really want to see done, dropping dreadnoughts on hordes of orks. It's probably the only futuristic setting that the Total War combat could work for. Total War: Starship Troopers. Remember! Registering your game means citizenship!
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 00:11
|
|
|
snKestren posted:There are people that like the original Rome with all of the unique civilizations and then there are people who want historical accuracy in a video game. One of the these groups removed flaming pigs, war-dogs, and chariots from the game and added fifty different variations of spearmen. The reason why the Greeks, Seleucids, Pontus and Macedonians were identical was because of CA, the same why all the "barbarians" were identical. In EB every single faction was different, none of this spearman bullshit people keep talking about. Only the spergiest of spergiest will whine about dogs or pigs. None here are talking about that. Silly is good, historically accurancy is not mandatory. But at least make a game where units are based on the time, not 1000 years before the timeframe. Davincie posted:All dogs versus all peasants or al elephants and such were the only things I ever did with the custom battle option. One unit of Spartan Hoplites vs three entire armies of Parthian Spearmen with the Spartans holding a bridge. They always held it 
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 00:53
|
|
|
I can't decide between redownloading Medieval 2: Total War from Steam and installing Stainless Steel or waiting until the Steam sale and buying Shogun 2. I need my massive armies conquering the continent fix 
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 02:03
|
|
|
rentilius posted:I can't decide between redownloading Medieval 2: Total War from Steam and installing Stainless Steel or waiting until the Steam sale and buying Shogun 2. I need my massive armies conquering the continent fix I don't really like Shogun's setting and unit selection but it plays much better than Medieval 2 with its horrible AI
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 02:07
|
|
|
Medieval 2 with Stainless Steel is very playable if you can get over how clunky it is. Saying that it's only real advantage over Shogun is units and map size and everything else is worse. It also still comes with the Pope which somehow manages to be a crappier gameplay mechanic than realm divide, I just love getting complained at constantly for playing the drat game.
hemale in pain fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jul 12, 2012 |
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 02:11
|
|
|
I've been playing FoTS for the past few days, and I can't figure out why I am so freaking terrible at it. It seems like the AI strategy is basically charge blindly forward into my guns, and fifty percent of the time it seems to work. I was never this bad at the other Total War games...and the battle results never seem this flukey when playing them. Maybe I'm crazy and/or loving awful at the game...has anyone else had similar results?
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 02:31
|
|
|
Do this with your line! \------/
|
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 02:35
|
|
|
ganthony posted:I've been playing FoTS for the past few days, and I can't figure out why I am so freaking terrible at it. It seems like the AI strategy is basically charge blindly forward into my guns, and fifty percent of the time it seems to work. I was never this bad at the other Total War games...and the battle results never seem this flukey when playing them. Maybe I'm crazy and/or loving awful at the game...has anyone else had similar results? Get 2 Armstrong/Parrot guns. Blast away at the enemy line for the entire time that they are marching towards you. Win.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 12:39
|
|
|
I never bothered with Shogun 2 mods and I know people don't like Darth mod here because he sticks Star Wars crap over the menu screen and alot of the changes are either uneccesary or not that great, but the extra unit sizes make things about a million times more fun. I've also got Hedge knights campaign AI mod which stops the stupid army composition problems. I've not met any stacks of archers yet!
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 12:45
|
|
|
Steam Summer Sale is live and Shogun 2 is part of the first day of deals. Unfortunately the FotS faction DLCs are only 40% off and cost 2.09€ which is still too much for what they offer.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 18:06
|
|
|
Empire and Medieval 2 are also discounted too.
|
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 18:10
|
|
|
Vodos posted:Steam Summer Sale is live and Shogun 2 is part of the first day of deals. Unfortunately the FotS faction DLCs are only 40% off and cost 2.09€ which is still too much for what they offer. Yeah, I was looking at those. Not worth it, huh? They do seem pretty pricey.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 19:11
|
|
|
I'm going to pick up Rise, and the blood pack for a laugh, but do you guys think fall will drop in price? It's only 50 percent off and I was hoping for atleast 60.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 19:22
|
|
|
I still have no idea which one I'd choose, if I had to choose one, Fall of the Samurai or Shogun 2. I mean, I like the idea of just having basic good-ole traditional combat, but the idea of being able to use a chaingun on a bunch of sword wielding jerks is a big motivator to get FOTS.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 19:56
|
|
|
Wait until CA pack sale/last day of the sale on the 22nd and get both!
|
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 20:02
|
|
|
NoneSuch posted:I'm going to pick up Rise, and the blood pack for a laugh, but do you guys think fall will drop in price? It's only 50 percent off and I was hoping for atleast 60. Probably not, this daily deal is most likely as low as it's going to go. That's how the big sales usually work, at least.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 20:02
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 23, 2024 15:53 |
|
|
Daily deal is likely how low it will go. However, a CA pack sale might come up and make the DLC cheaper. So buy Shogun 2 and then the DLC at the end.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2012 20:07
|
|
