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Speaking of being a sneaky rear end in a top hat, can you string Caesar along long enough so that you can get the chance to kill him on the operating table while still being trusted by the NCR?
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:I've found a fun way to play through. You do the negotiator/speech/barter thing, but you be specifically as manipulative and divisive as possible. I'm currently doing a Mr House playthrough where I attempt to destroy or damage every faction I can before finishing the main plot. Pretty good list, by the way. Even though it's a minor faction, I've always enjoyed playing the Goodsprings citizens and Powder Gangers off of each other a little. Agree to assist Goodsprings with their Powder Ganger problem, but wrangle up just enough collaboration to even the playing field between the two sides (generally that means avoiding Chet's leather armor, but recruiting everybody else.) Then, sit back and watch the two sides tear each other apart. You'll have one or two survivors that need to be picked off, and then you can plunder the houses of those who died. Plus, you won't lose so much face with the Powder Gangers that you're locked out of their NCRCF quests!
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Jul 15, 2012 04:34
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Timeless Appeal posted:Speaking of being a sneaky rear end in a top hat, can you string Caesar along long enough so that you can get the chance to kill him on the operating table while still being trusted by the NCR? I don't think it's possible. The wiki says that 'Don't tread on the bear' gets triggered after you deal with the boomers and failed after you deal with the white gloves. After that there's still the Brotherhood before you get to the operation.
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Jul 15, 2012 05:31
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Angry Boat posted:You're never actually locked out of the quests by doing that. You can still wear a uniform and go in; somebody in the first building will propose a truce, and you can do the quests. That never happens for me. Dawes attacks me whether or not I'm in uniform, although there's a slight delay if you're wearing Powder Ganger's gear.  EDIT: I know which guy you're talking about though. Usually by the time I get to him, I've already shot up Dawes for getting froggy on me. It would have made more sense if--approaching the NCRCF as a hated character--speaking to Dawes would have him take you to their leader to discuss a truce. As it is, it's sort of like, "hey talk to this random dude that looks like every other nameless character." Cream-of-Plenty fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Jul 15, 2012 |
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Jul 15, 2012 06:28
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How far can you get into the main quest whilst not making enemies of any of the major factions? I aim to basically try and string along the Legion and the NCR both in this playthrough (preferably killing Caesar on the operating table if I'm able), making them think I'm on their side until as late as possible when I take down House and claim New Vegas for myself. Is this at all viable?
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Jul 15, 2012 08:41
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Davos posted:How far can you get into the main quest whilst not making enemies of any of the major factions? I aim to basically try and string along the Legion and the NCR both in this playthrough (preferably killing Caesar on the operating table if I'm able), making them think I'm on their side until as late as possible when I take down House and claim New Vegas for myself. Is this at all viable? Legion/Independent would be viable up until the endgame if you perform the missions in the correct order. Legion/NCR significantly less so alienating the NCR after the White Glove Society Merry Magpie fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Jul 15, 2012 |
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Jul 15, 2012 09:00
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You'll fail "Don't tread on the bear" and piss of NCR after Caesar's White Glove Society mission, so it is not possible to get Caesar on the operating table without making NCR an enemy, but the path to Yes Man victory will remain open and you can only block yourself out of it if you choose to commit to fight for the Legion at Hoover Dam after completing Arizona Killer and receiving the xp for it.
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Jul 15, 2012 09:04
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Davos posted:How far can you get into the main quest whilst not making enemies of any of the major factions? I aim to basically try and string along the Legion and the NCR both in this playthrough (preferably killing Caesar on the operating table if I'm able), making them think I'm on their side until as late as possible when I take down House and claim New Vegas for myself. Is this at all viable? While operating table isn't an option, with an Indie run you can be on very friendly terms with House/Ceasar/NCR right up until just before you start the actual final mission. Depending on how you want to play the relationships with the secondary factions, you might have to depose House and install Yes Man earlier, since none of the major factions support keeping all of the minor factions alive and thriving. Aside from making an early enemy of House purely by accident (I saw a computer, so I hacked it), this is actually what I did on my first run through the game. The character essentially being a murderous self-serving jackass with a good public face. Acute Grill fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Jul 15, 2012 |
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Jul 15, 2012 11:01
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I managed to run to the Sierra Madre and get things powered on. I was hoping to get there so that I could abuse the high luck that I have to get lots and lots of chips for lots and lots of doctors bags and stimpacks. After busting out the casino I went to the nearest dispensor to load up on loot. First thing I went to was to get the holorifle upgrade. I selected and then without thinking, hit accept. That momentary lapse in concentration left me with no chips and 57 holorifle focus optics mods.
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Jul 15, 2012 15:01
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Tsietisin posted:First thing I went to was to get the holorifle upgrade. I selected and then without thinking, hit accept. That momentary lapse in concentration left me with no chips and 57 holorifle focus optics mods.  I did the exact same thing. I couldn't even be annoyed.
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Jul 15, 2012 15:14
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How did it accidentally get to 57? It's been a little while, is there a "buy this until I run out of money" button I'm forgetting?
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Jul 15, 2012 15:19
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It's set to automatically buy the maximum you can with the amount you have. I had a little over 10,000 chips and at 175 chips a piece, I ended up with 57 of them.
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Jul 15, 2012 15:30
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Tsietisin posted:It's set to automatically buy the maximum you can with the amount you have. I had a little over 10,000 chips and at 175 chips a piece, I ended up with 57 of them. I honestly did not recall it working that way. Guess I'll keep that in mind for my next run.
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Jul 15, 2012 16:04
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Every time I see someone buy this game on Steam during the sale I get this fuzzy feeling inside. Bless you, rope kid and Chris Avellone, you are princes among game designers, and in a world of bad F2P MMOs and military shooters this game is a diamond.
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Jul 15, 2012 17:30
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Tsietisin posted:It's set to automatically buy the maximum you can with the amount you have. I had a little over 10,000 chips and at 175 chips a piece, I ended up with 57 of them. That's how I unexpectedly ended up with 2000 .308 rounds. It was an oh poo poo moment until I realized that I now had 100 extra magazines worth of ammo for my BAR 
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Jul 15, 2012 19:30
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Under normal circumstances, not a problem. However I now have 56 useless items. Best I can do is sell them off when I get out back into the regular world. Apparently worth around 15,000 caps and weightless.
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Jul 15, 2012 19:47
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I really wish there had been a proper gently caress Everybody ending. NCR gets kicked back to Cali, the Legion is flattened entirely, House/Yes Man gets nothing, etc.
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Jul 15, 2012 19:53
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Capn Beeb posted:I really wish there had been a proper gently caress Everybody ending. NCR gets kicked back to Cali, the Legion is flattened entirely, House/Yes Man gets nothing, etc. That's the Yes Man ending though? Yes Man doesn't "win" because he's a simple robot that you control.
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Jul 15, 2012 20:19
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MrL_JaKiri posted:That's the Yes Man ending though? Yes Man doesn't "win" because he's a simple robot that you control. Yeah, he's pretty much a tool for you to use. And then you become a tool because you decided to destroy the Securitron army just so you could hear that little bit of flavor text from Yes-man where he passively explains how bad you messed up. Totally worth it.
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Jul 15, 2012 20:22
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Capn Beeb posted:I really wish there had been a proper gently caress Everybody ending. NCR gets kicked back to Cali, the Legion is flattened entirely, House/Yes Man gets nothing, etc.
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Jul 15, 2012 20:33
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How does one get into New Vegas closer to the beginning of the game? I wanna stealth-boy my way in to get the implants but have no idea how to get in. I tcl'd around and found the entrance to Freeside, but it seems like you have to run the Kings' quests before you can get into the strip proper, which I don't want to do right now.
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Jul 15, 2012 20:46
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Ravenfood posted:I guess you aren't counting the "side with Elijah" ending of DM? How do you trigger that by the way? I've looked on the wiki and I haven't found an answer yet. Do you just run out the dialogue with him? Or do you impress him with skill checks or something?
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Jul 15, 2012 20:50
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Orgophlax posted:How does one get into New Vegas closer to the beginning of the game? I wanna stealth-boy my way in to get the implants but have no idea how to get in. I tcl'd around and found the entrance to Freeside, but it seems like you have to run the Kings' quests before you can get into the strip proper, which I don't want to do right now. the medical clinic is actually outside of new vegas, near the Crimson Caravan camp, IIRC. Also, there are several different ways to get into the strip, including:
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Jul 15, 2012 20:50
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FauxGateau posted:Yeah, he's pretty much a tool for you to use. And then you become a tool because you decided to destroy the Securitron army just so you could hear that little bit of flavor text from Yes-man where he passively explains how bad you messed up. Not many games can make a single line of dialogue worth loving up your entire runthrough for. "You... blew it up. That's just funny, because that... army seems like the secret weapon that was the whole point of... you know... I can't get over how brave you were to destroy all those Securitrons at The Fort... that's just going to make things so much more... ah... challenging... yeah, challenging." I think Yes Man may be the most adorable character in games for the past 10 years.
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Jul 15, 2012 20:54
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Another Person posted:Not many games can make a single line of dialogue worth loving up your entire runthrough for. I don't think it would be any stretch of the imagination to say that Dave Foley really makes it work.
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Jul 15, 2012 20:56
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FauxGateau posted:I don't think it would be any stretch of the imagination to say that Dave Foley really makes it work. Definitely, I don't think any other voice could have sealed the deal better. Overall, the voice work in this game is stellar, all of the characters 'feel' right.
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Jul 15, 2012 20:58
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Orgophlax posted:How does one get into New Vegas closer to the beginning of the game? I wanna stealth-boy my way in to get the implants but have no idea how to get in. I tcl'd around and found the entrance to Freeside, but it seems like you have to run the Kings' quests before you can get into the strip proper, which I don't want to do right now. I think the implants are just outside Vegas anyways.
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Jul 15, 2012 21:21
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SlothfulCobra posted:I think the implants are just outside Vegas anyways. I think he means to gamble to get the money necessary to get the implants. By the way, Atomic wrangler is technically a casino. So go there and gamble until you break the bank. Then buy you way into Vegas and then keep gambling. Don't go into the tops yet cause that will start the main set of quests. Then go buy the implants.
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Jul 15, 2012 21:32
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Fag Boy Jim posted:the medical clinic is actually outside of new vegas, near the Crimson Caravan camp, IIRC. Also, there are several different ways to get into the strip, including: There's also...
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Jul 15, 2012 21:35
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Another Person posted:Not many games can make a single line of dialogue worth loving up your entire runthrough for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k9OYIfG8C4 I really need to do a Yes Man playthrough, my sole playthrough so far is NCR aligned.
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Jul 15, 2012 22:01
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FauxGateau posted:How do you trigger that by the way? I've looked on the wiki and I haven't found an answer yet. Do you just run out the dialogue with him? Or do you impress him with skill checks or something? I can't remember if there are skill-checks involved but you need to have a bad reputation with the NCR in order for the option to become available.
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Jul 15, 2012 22:33
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Epi Lepi posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k9OYIfG8C4 What the eff. Was yes man supposed to wander around with you at some point?
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Jul 15, 2012 22:38
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Kharmakazy posted:What the eff. Was yes man supposed to wander around with you at some point? I was kind of hoping that helping Mr. House would let you use Victor as a companion or something, I thought he'd be more important than just your doorman past Act 1.
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Jul 15, 2012 22:43
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I've become enraged about an hour in to the game. I've completed the starter quest and have reached the city of Primm or something and I am was told to look for a seargent by a campfire. All I've found is a hotel occupied by hostile NPCs that have made me repeat the same levelup sequence a dozen times. I'm not certain if the game wants me to charge balls in or dance past every enemy I see or what. Death comes in 2-3 hits and enemies seem quite heavily armed. As a first time player, I'm overwhelmed and frustrated.
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Jul 15, 2012 22:47
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Yeah that hotel can be kinda tough for a low level player. You can skip Primm if you want, just follow the road further on. For some info for what the hell is going on, enter the building opposite, it contains friendlies.
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Jul 15, 2012 22:51
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Samopsa posted:Yeah that hotel can be kinda tough for a low level player. You can skip Primm if you want, just follow the road further on. For some info for what the hell is going on, enter the building opposite, it contains friendlies. Not really all that hard. It was harder before they started patching all the enemies out though. First time I showed up there it was a damned warzone.
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Jul 15, 2012 22:54
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Don't cross the bridge into the city. If you're facing the bridge, the sergeant should be on your right. You can also get some information on the building and a brief quest in the casino opposite the building. It'll be behind you and to the left. And if you've got some repair skills, you can probably pick up a companion too. Facing the hotel, the building with ED-E is behind you and to the right.
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Kharmakazy posted:What the eff. Was yes man supposed to wander around with you at some point? It sounds like he was supposed to be a quest companion at some point maybe, possibly on the Dam (it makes sense to me, there IS a Securitron that follows you on that mission) . I couldn't buy the idea of having a plot character as a permanent companion in a real Fallout game being a design decision. But that is just speculation. We can however, ask ropekid, and hope to get a proper answer. Was he ever intended to be a true companion then? The idea of a Securitron companion is actually pretty interesting, surprised we didn't have one. Just hope you see it now... Another Person fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jul 15, 2012 |
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