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was watching Havoc 1993, forgot all about this gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLvcxesvpSM Afterwards, Schiavone asks Jesse if that was actually him in the house, because "I've never been to that house!"
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Chinston Wurchill posted:They've started doing this occasionally on NXT. I hope they keep it up!
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BAN DICKEYE posted:If that was the case, why did Ace book an entirely new and separate tag division in the Cruiser tag Titles in WCW? Or was that a Bischoff call when he was preparing to buy the company? It's certainly become even more extreme in the past decade or so, but even when WWF did have a strong tag division, it's never been as high profile as it is in a lot of other territories. So Johnny Ace might not be a hypocrite directly as much as a company line-towing yes man.
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Listen, all you guys do in this thread is bash WCW but if it weren't for Van Hammer and the Kiss Demon 
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Rarity posted:Listen, all you guys do in this thread is bash WCW but if it weren't for Van Hammer and the Kiss Demon
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Perigryn posted:Yeah, if it wasn't for WCW, we wouldn't have cruiserweights, the Monday Night Wars, Ralphus... You forgot Dean Malenkoooo.
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Jul 15, 2012 18:54
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And heels you can cheer for because they're so cool and hip. 
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Toffile posted:You forgot Dean Malenkoooo. We wouldn't have any of Reed Flair's contributions to the business like
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Jul 15, 2012 19:18
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You forgot Chris Jericho and Lenny Lane feuding over Loverboy tapes.
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So people were talking pages back about Hogan's "Dark Side" promos. There's one that used to be on YouTube that involved Hogan, Savage, a guy looking and sounding oddly like Jericho (it wasn't Jericho) rocking out and singing a song about Dark Side Hogan and a somehow inebriated, probably homeless little person between Hogan and Savage, alternately rambling and agreeing with whatever is being said. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about?
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"Darkside Hogan" was their last ditch attempt to repackage him before they eventually turned him heel.
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LordPants posted:"Darkside Hogan" was their last ditch attempt to repackage him before they eventually turned him heel. I always wondered how things would have shaken out had they went with Sting instead of Hogan. Would they have just jobbed out to Hogan, Luger and Savage like a month later?
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Lone Rogue posted:I always wondered how things would have shaken out had they went with Sting instead of Hogan.
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Rarity posted:Listen, all you guys do in this thread is bash WCW but if it weren't for Van Hammer and the Kiss Demon Kiss Demon unironically owns and has been in some of the best segments of all time.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:So people were talking pages back about Hogan's "Dark Side" promos. There's one that used to be on YouTube that involved Hogan, Savage, a guy looking and sounding oddly like Jericho (it wasn't Jericho) rocking out and singing a song about Dark Side Hogan and a somehow inebriated, probably homeless little person between Hogan and Savage, alternately rambling and agreeing with whatever is being said. here you go dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr-Hayn19Z8 darkside hogan was such a bizarre, aborted angle given that literally nothing changed except hogan's attire and sullivan's face paint. and the surreality of the promos increased i guess.
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NOTHIN BUT CHUNK posted:here you go dude Love ya buddy. Only shame is that the start of part 2 is right after the AWESOME song. It's annoying to go back and forth, maybe there's an uncut video of the Nitro somewhere. EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfitScS91ww&t=416s Amazing.
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This does not seem likely, but that singer instantly reminds me of the King's X vocalist. This is a very important post. YouTube has declared that the guy between Hogan and Savage is clearly the Necro Butcher.
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:It might have been really big, but not something that made the business explode like Hogan turning heel. Yeah, Meltzer speculated that with Bret Hart they would have been fairly big but "...since Hogan was the money" it wouldn't have been a game changer.
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A few days/pages back MassRayPer had an old Observer quote about Austin and not wanting to job to The Renegade. Well reading that I decided to look up The Renegade on Wikipedia and right there on the page, with a picture of him, is the most WCW thing. The caption under it: The tribute to Rick Williams that aired on WCW Monday Nitro after his death; note the erroneous reference to him as "Rick Wilson".
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Jul 16, 2012 09:19
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I feel bad for laughing at that, but drat I did.
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Suben posted:A few days/pages back MassRayPer had an old Observer quote about Austin and not wanting to job to The Renegade. Well reading that I decided to look up The Renegade on Wikipedia and right there on the page, with a picture of him, is the most WCW thing. That can't be real. Even as dumb as WCW was, they couldn't have hosed up like that, could they? I don't actually doubt that they did, but I'm surprised I've never heard of that before.
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Jul 16, 2012 09:23
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That is very WCW.
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Looking back through google it seems like that tribute caused pretty much every site that did Nitro recaps back then to refer to him as Rick Wilson. So it was a screw up that made a bunch of people call him by the wrong name. Yikes.
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MassRayPer posted:That can't be real. Even as dumb as WCW was, they couldn't have hosed up like that, could they? I don't actually doubt that they did, but I'm surprised I've never heard of that before. Yeah, I went and looked at the episode after reading that. It definitely happened.
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From the May 29, 1995 Observer:Wrestling Observer posted:Van Hammer (Mark Hildreth) made the news again this past week. The Atlanta area police raided some sex shops in Buckhead including one owned by Hammer's family. Hammer, who was constantly called a WCW wrestler, was on WGST radio ridiculing police for busting sex shops when they should be chasing real criminals. 
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I finally got around to watching Rise and Fall of WCW. How accurate is most of the stuff about Crockett and the sale to Turner? I never knew much about it and it was interesting to see how that happened along with the growth of cable TV.
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DJExile posted:I finally got around to watching Rise and Fall of WCW. How accurate is most of the stuff about Crockett and the sale to Turner? I never knew much about it and it was interesting to see how that happened along with the growth of cable TV. I haven't seen the DVD, what specifically are you referring too? The Observer had like a 5 page run-down on how shallow that documentary was and how much it skipped over.
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The interviews were fun. Big Show was so mad about being underpaid.
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The doc was fun but only really works if you know enough of the story to fill in the blanks and catch the BS. Then you can enjoy the good and laugh at the bad. But if you're kind of ignorant to the Monday Night Wars and WCWs history then you have no way of deciphering it. It's why I've never bothered with the WWE WCCW DVD. I don't know much of anything about WCCW so I'd just be walking myself into lies. Man, WWE is writing wrestling history and in a generation no one will know the truth.
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STAC Goat posted:The doc was fun but only really works if you know enough of the story to fill in the blanks and catch the BS. Then you can enjoy the good and laugh at the bad. But if you're kind of ignorant to the Monday Night Wars and WCWs history then you have no way of deciphering it. Their WCCW DVD isn't that bad. It's not as good as Heroes of World Class, but nothing was going to be that comprehensive and dark.
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Suben posted:A few days/pages back MassRayPer had an old Observer quote about Austin and not wanting to job to The Renegade. Well reading that I decided to look up The Renegade on Wikipedia and right there on the page, with a picture of him, is the most WCW thing.
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MassRayPer posted:Their WCCW DVD isn't that bad. It's not as good as Heroes of World Class, but nothing was going to be that comprehensive and dark. The WWE WCCW docu has a bunch of WCCW matches, which justifies the purchase. Quit sitting on loving footage, WWE.
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Are there any of those streams up that just show 24/7 WCW? I love when there's one available and I know I can watch 20 minutes of WCW at any time
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There used to be a guy who streamed the whole Monday night war 24/7 but his poo poo went down and I don't think anyone else has taken over.
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God, I remember that stream. When we got to January 4th 1999, everyone watching it went loving crazy. The words "BUTTS IN SEATS" were used a LOT.
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What exactly is needed to stream the stuff? If its not too complicated I could probably set something up.
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Dickeye posted:There used to be a guy who streamed the whole Monday night war 24/7 but his poo poo went down and I don't think anyone else has taken over. Yeah, that's the one. Really, if the WWE Network was just that, I'd be happy. I just want to see random great old wrestling any time I turn on the TV
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triplexpac posted:Yeah, that's the one. Really, if the WWE Network was just that, I'd be happy. I just want to see random great old wrestling any time I turn on the TV That is why I don't understand why anyone wants the Network to fail. If they can launch it and it breaks even that will be such a great source of stuff we just couldn't see otherwise.
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It has to be very hard to get that network on the air... Small networks like Oprah's OWN are losing money, and WWE doesnt have other stations to withold for negotiating power like ESPN and ESPN Classic.
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