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Egomaniac posted:They've been consistent with that. The English subs still have Kazuma/Kazzy/Uncle Kaz and Fuma from #1 through Dead Souls. Actually they returned Fuma to Kazama in Yakuza 4. Weird that they changed it to Fuma at all, and even weirder that it took 4 games for someone to change it back.
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Gutcruncher posted:Actually they returned Fuma to Kazama in Yakuza 4. Weird that they changed it to Fuma at all, and even weirder that it took 4 games for someone to change it back. edit: outside of context of course. One of them is a first name and one is a last name so if you knew that there'd be no problem. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Jul 16, 2012 |
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Gutcruncher posted:Actually they returned Fuma to Kazama in Yakuza 4. Weird that they changed it to Fuma at all, and even weirder that it took 4 games for someone to change it back. I was gonna say I played through the English version twice and never noticed that, but then I realized that's because I don't think he even comes up in the story. Was it just in the reminisce/backstory stuff? Cause I never watch those. Anyway yeah, it was probably unnecessary to change it in the first place, but I think it's pretty dumb to change it back at this point. Now that players are used to the change, and most probably never even realized there was one to begin with, Sega's just drawing attention to it for no reason. Hortism posted:Super excited about those HD remakes. But I hope they update the comobat engines. I think it's a super long shot that they'll be released outside Japan at all, let alone have any upgrades. Egomaniac fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Jul 16, 2012 |
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Sega showed off 6 new cast members today. "Kouichi Takasugi", a loan shark in pursuit of Tatsuo Shinada, the baseball player. Expect Akiyama to show up at some point and kick him in the balls.  "Shigeki Baba", a fellow prisoner who's life is changed when he meets Taiga Saejima. I fully expect him to die at some point so Saejima can have his very own "RIKIYA!!!!!" moment  "Mayumi", a hostess girl who knows Kiryu. She's apparently very important to the plot.  "Daigo Dojima", you should know who this is! According to Famitsu, Daigo is going to be a LOT more important in this game. Good for him, if Daigo can handle the zombie apocalypse then he can certainly handle whatever Nagoshi's cooked up for 5.  "Naoki Katsuya", the head of a talent agency who is connected to the Yakuza. I imagine at some point the game will touch on that real world thing of yakuza and idols.  "Mysterious detective", a man who is chasing all 5 main characters for reasons unknown.
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Those all look soooo goooood. If this game is not localized, I will be incredibly upset. Also, yay Daigo!  He's always been one of my favorite support characters (aside from Majima, of course), so I'm glad he's going to be important for once.
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It weirds me out when I recognize actors in Yakuza games by the characters they're playing. What kind of black magic face-scanning thing are they using? 
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I hope the HD collection comes out soon in the US to tie people over until 5 comes out. I have only played 1 on PS2 and skipped to 4. I'll get to play 1, 2, and 3 while waiting for 5  Make it so, Sega. Make it so
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Bocc Kob posted:It weirds me out when I recognize actors in Yakuza games by the characters they're playing. What kind of black magic face-scanning thing are they using? Do they actually do just a scan? I know the motion capture that one performer for the dance clubs and hostess action animations but maybe they just have ridiculously good animators. The Virtua games (be they fighting or sports, baseball, NFL 2K series, etc.) are infamous for having no motion capture yet having the best animations ever of any 3D games. They only started using it in VF3 and up I think. There's probably a huge amount of tweaking they do afterwards to get it just right compared to, say, Jessica Chobot in Mass Effect 3.
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Policenaut posted:
Isn't this Kazama's brother but with a haircut?
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Policenaut posted:
Wait what? Didn't he kill himself or something at the end of 4? Is my memory screwing with me? 
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Xoidanor posted:Wait what? Didn't he kill himself or something at the end of 4? Is my memory screwing with me? Maybe I should play 4 again sometime, I don't feel like I remember the details of its plot as well as 2 or 3.
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Yeah, Daigo's basically reminded of the virtues of manliness by Kiryu. The lesson comes in the form of a beatdown, naturally.
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Hasn't Daigo been reminded of the virtue of manliness via fist lessons in every Yakuza game now?
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Sega's probably gonna announce Yakuza 1 & 2 HD tomorrow.
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SpacePig posted:Hasn't Daigo been reminded of the virtue of manliness via fist lessons in every Yakuza game now?
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It's easy to forget, though, when the same man that taught you is also the man who put you into the position of controlling a family so weak that he has no choice but to bow to other families.
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SpacePig posted:Hasn't Daigo been reminded of the virtue of manliness via fist lessons in every Yakuza game now? Hey now, he didn't have to get beaten up in 3. He was in a coma for nearly the whole thing.
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Yakuza 1&2 HD coming to Japan on November 1st
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And here's some stuff about Tatsuo Shinada. Big improvement noted: batting now (apparently) operates similar to Pro Yakyuu Spirits.
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So I started a new game plus game on Yakuza 4, on ex-hard mode. Does anyone know how hard it gets, if all my characters are starting at level 20?
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Policenaut posted:And here's some stuff about Tatsuo Shinada. Big improvement noted: batting now (apparently) operates similar to Pro Yakyuu Spirits.  He has a mitt for a hand! 
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Samurai Sanders posted:I doubt it, but its not like they have changed THAT much. Almost nothing engine-wise has, other than more polygons and higher resolution textures. Yeah I know they all play pretty much the same, but they really worked out a few of the kinks and refined the system to make the fights flow that much better from about 3 onwards. It's been awhile, but 1 felt pretty drat clunky, and 2 had a few issues as well. I've always been a little disappointed that, despite quite a bit of critical acclaim this series has always been a bit low key popularity wise in Western markets. They do so much right, and are essentially jRPGs yet you'll never see the same hype for them that you'd get for stuff like the DQ, FF or Tales series. And if that lack of popularity means less of these titles get localized, then that loving sucks, because these games are the Godamn best. Bringing the HD remakes over would probably be a step in the right direction because I'm pretty sure the PS2 titles came out during the rear end end of the consoles life cycle and a lot of people would have disregarded the series since you probably wouldn't want to jump into them at 3.
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I really hope those HD remakes get a western release. A copy of Yakuza 2 is quite expensive. 
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Hortism posted:Yeah I know they all play pretty much the same, but they really worked out a few of the kinks and refined the system to make the fights flow that much better from about 3 onwards. Also this IS Japan we are talking about. I think one out of a thousand developers there actually, really gets the Western market deep down. And, there are a lot of fans in Japan who don't want them to, and want them to keep operating as if the outside world didn't exist. They call the current trend to appeal to the outside world "sekai-byou" or "world sickness" and argue that it is destroying Japanese games.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Well, they're set in a very real Japan, while fantasy RPGs are in a fantasy world that you could more successfully argue is universal. People who think foreign things are weird and icky could still possibly play a fantasy JRPG without realizing it is foreign. I've never really though about it, but I don't feel that any of the Yakuza games really try to appeal to Western markets. But in a day and age where most modern JRPGs have to shake things up a little in order to do well here I would have thought what the Yakuza series would satisfyingly scrath the itch that made stuff like Final Fantasy so popular. I dunno, it just tends to be my perspective. When people go on about games like Xenoblade reinvigorating the JRPG market I've just always felt that the Yakuza series has delivered just about everything I've always wanted or expected out of a JRPG. Sure you might not get a vast (often barren) fantasy world to travel around in, but even grounded in reality, the Yakuza world is far more lovingly crafted and detailed than most. And this is generalizing a great deal, but I tend to find western JRPG fans in general to be at least a little bit weeaboo-ish so I'd be a little suprised if playing around in a modern Japn setting would be a turn off. To me it just seems like the series has poo poo all exposure here. I go to a uni full of game nerds yet out of all the people I've talked to only one other guy knows the series. But I've lent out my spare copy of 4 around and anyone who's played it has loved it. A bit of a rant, but I just want these games to do well because they do so much right and are probably the most engrossing videogames I've ever come across.
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Hortism posted:
Probably the biggest problem is that for some reason the series has a reputation as "Japanese GTA ripoff." Ive talked to so many people who refuse to even give the game a chance because its just a "lovely GTA." Its like complaining that Doom is a lovely Tetris.
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Gutcruncher posted:Probably the biggest problem is that for some reason the series has a reputation as "Japanese GTA ripoff." Ive talked to so many people who refuse to even give the game a chance because its just a "lovely GTA." Its like complaining that Doom is a lovely Tetris. Anyway, I thought as many people who considered it like GTA considered it like Shenmue, it's always called one or the other of those, though the latter is far more accurate. I like it way, way more than either one though. But my point is that Sega of JAPAN doesn't consider it to have much potential in foreign markets, and can't be bothered to actually investigate whether they are right or not. They'll just keep on trucking as their local market dries up and then throw up their hands and say they did their best.
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Hortism posted:And this is generalizing a great deal, but I tend to find western JRPG fans in general to be at least a little bit weeaboo-ish so I'd be a little suprised if playing around in a modern Japn setting would be a turn off. In regards to the weeaboo-ish thing, it's probably because Yakuza is an overall much more "realistic" (as realistic as Yakuza can be, I guess, compared to FF or whatever) setting, whereas weeaboos probably want the unbelievable fantasy setting with extraordinary weapons/skills. I probably didn't make much sense, but it pains me to see how unknown Yakuza is outside of Japan. I tried showing Yakuza 3/4 to a friend of mine and he was just bored by it, so then he went back to his zombie or Transformer game(s). Not to mention, pure brawling may not appeal to many JRPG fans.
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Yeah, I definitely found the series through the whole "Shenmue" like game reputation in opposed to GTA, which it doesn't share much with at all, other than 'being in a city'. And while it took till about the 2nd game to do it, I like Yakuza a lot more than I do Shenmue. Except I wish Yakuza had something like the end of Shenmue 2 had, which was just a long scenic trek through some (at the time) spectacular looking naturey stuff. Probably won't happen though, as it's a way more action orientated series then Shenmue, and Shenmue filled that area with a poo poo load of QTE to try to give the player something to do, which I'm more than happy that Yakuza doesn't try to emulate.
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Hortism posted:Yeah, I definitely found the series through the whole "Shenmue" like game reputation in opposed to GTA, which it doesn't share much with at all, other than 'being in a city'. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the whole "GTA-clone" image came from Sega's marketing for the first game's western release. They thought that would have more appeal or something. So naturally the series was hamstring in the west on Day One because the people who bought it were mostly disappointed GTA fans and the people who actually would've loved it stayed away thinking it wasn't for them.
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Egomaniac posted:I was gonna say I played through the English version twice and never noticed that, but then I realized that's because I don't think he even comes up in the story. Was it just in the reminisce/backstory stuff? Cause I never watch those. Fuma/Kazama is mentioned a couple of times in passing in 4, but I think only ever in side content. Another localisation that they've gone back on is the name of the information dealer. I'm guessing they changed his name from Hanaya (florist) to Kage (shadow) because it sounds cooler. But eventually they started calling him Kage the Florist, and I think in Dead Souls they dropped Kage and just called him The Florist.
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Mechanigma posted:Fuma/Kazama is mentioned a couple of times in passing in 4, but I think only ever in side content. Another localisation that they've gone back on is the name of the information dealer. I'm guessing they changed his name from Hanaya (florist) to Kage (shadow) because it sounds cooler. But eventually they started calling him Kage the Florist, and I think in Dead Souls they dropped Kage and just called him The Florist.
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Gutcruncher posted:Probably the biggest problem is that for some reason the series has a reputation as "Japanese GTA ripoff." Ive talked to so many people who refuse to even give the game a chance because its just a "lovely GTA." Its like complaining that Doom is a lovely Tetris. Ask those people if they also refused to play Mass Effect because it's just a porn simulator. Then knock them down and stomp their faces in. Samurai Sanders posted:Wait, they changed one Japanese name to another because they thought it would sound cooler to people who don't speak Japanese? Maybe they were afraid people would confuse the Florist with Akiyama's assistant. 
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Samurai Sanders posted:Wait, they changed one Japanese name to another because they thought it would sound cooler to people who don't speak Japanese? Maybe they were hoping that everyone would go "Kage? Isn't that the ninja from Virtua Fighter? This guy must be awesome too!" 
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This morning I saw some weird news from the real Kamuro-cho, aka Kabuki-cho. Apparently this restaurant just opened. That's one thing that the Yakuza series doesn't have, is ridiculous theme hostess clubs. If that's what this is anyway, I can't really tell.
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Mechanigma posted:Fuma/Kazama is mentioned a couple of times in passing in 4, but I think only ever in side content. Another localisation that they've gone back on is the name of the information dealer. I'm guessing they changed his name from Hanaya (florist) to Kage (shadow) because it sounds cooler. But eventually they started calling him Kage the Florist, and I think in Dead Souls they dropped Kage and just called him The Florist. I forgot about Hanaya. The weird thing was in Yakuza 2 there was a whole sidequest based around some guy looking for a florist and Kiryuu directing him to Hanaya that didn't make sense in the English release.
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Official site for the HD collection is now up, along with a video trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TzEExtseaU After watching the trailer in 1080p, it looks like the pre-rendered videos will still be 480p.  Does the site say anything about re-doing the pre-rendered scenes for HD resolutions?One of the photos has Kiryu in a locked room with two tigers. update: Holy poo poo, he fights two tigers with his bare hands.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o-YC4hrHZk Yechezkel fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Jul 19, 2012 |
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Yechezkel posted:One of the photos has Kiryu in a locked room with two tigers.
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