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Shimazu (or whatever the green guys are called) is probably the easiest faction to start with, to get a grasp on how things work. You're on an easily defensible island, you have better sword infantry than anyone else and you have a lot of trade routes right outside your front door; if you build some trade ships asap and occupy those routes (they're marked on your map) you'll be rolling in money before long. Otherwise, get trade agreements with as many factions as possible, upgrade your ports and other commercial buildings, and don't forget to upgrade your farms so your people don't run out of food.
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ManSedan posted:I picked up Shogun 2 off the Steam Sale the other day. It's my first game of this genre, so I'm pretty terrible at it and my first campaign (Mori) is getting curbstomped. My biggest problem is that I never seem to have enough money, even with several trade routes and agreements. I've taken three areas and upgraded the resources in two of them, but besides my one big army I barely have enough money each turn to make more than a few ashigaru, which ended up leaving my capitol open for assault from the shameful Hojo clan and THREE huge armies. Seize at least two trade nodes minimum and hold them with your fleets, this is pretty useful if your going to roll with Mori again in the future. Also, at the start you'll only need one province focused on pumping out specialised military stuff. Focus the rest economics and trade. And don't be afraid to raid enemy clan trade routes!
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Build a trade post as soon as possible and build trade ships, place 1 ship on every foreign trade node before anyone else gets to them, then fill them up with 10 ships each. Then make trade agreements with everyone else and enjoy your 10k+ quarterly income. Just remember to place some protection with your trade ships and be aware that your income will plummet if you go to war and your enemy starts raiding your trade routes.
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I managed to win legendary campaigns as Chosokabe and Shimazu in vanilla but always had trouble as Mori. I just felt like ships weren't good enough and their position is a bit too open for that mode. I like the idea of a maritime empire, but I just didn't feel like it was supported. I installed Fall of the Samurai last night and goddamn I love ships now. Bombardment is so radically overpowered both on the battlemap and the overworld map. The amount of new content and new strategy is pretty staggering. Time to put another 200 hours into a goddamn TW game. e: that obviously doesn't have that much to do with a normal mode Mori game as discussed above. In that case, besides securing as many trade nodes as possible for infinite money, it sounds like you're keeping too large of a military. I always play very passively past the first couple of turns, focusing on farms and financial buildings. You don't need samurai or hordes of dudes early on most of the time, so use the upkeep costs you save to establish an awesome economy. TheGame fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jul 18, 2012 |
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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Does anyone here have experience doing coop campaigns in Napoleon? It's on super sale right now and I think it might be fun for myself and a friend. However I know that Shogun 2's coop was super FUBARed forever and even now barely qualifies as "working". I'd like to know how the two compare.
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Chomp8645 posted:Does anyone here have experience doing coop campaigns in Napoleon? It's on super sale right now and I think it might be fun for myself and a friend. However I know that Shogun 2's coop was super FUBARed forever and even now barely qualifies as "working". I'd like to know how the two compare. Uhhh, shogun 2 coop is nothing short of amazing now. It even resyncs in the event of a desync. It was dicey in vanilla, but its been really solid for a while now. In fact, I would recommend the game on the strength of the coop alone. E: I'm curious where you heard the shogun 2 coop still barely qualifies as working? shalcar fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jul 19, 2012 |
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Chomp8645 posted:Does anyone here have experience doing coop campaigns in Napoleon? It's on super sale right now and I think it might be fun for myself and a friend. However I know that Shogun 2's coop was super FUBARed forever and even now barely qualifies as "working". I'd like to know how the two compare. Me and a buddy did a short Napoleon campaign once. Worked well enough, but just in case we made sure to save after every turn.
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Plus if you liked the older Total War titles with the more detailed focused conquest of Europe and the Napoleonic Wars era it is worth picking up that cheap. The DLC? depends on what tickles your military gaming pickle. The proper campaign one is worth it though.
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All I really want for Empire is a mod that makes the Marathas less of a terrifying invasion force from the east mid-game. Which one is my best bet for that?
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Total war pack (Every game from Napolean back) is the daily deal on steam for dirt cheap! Pick it up and round out your collection, its great value.
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Spakstik posted:Besides what Bloodly said, you may want to try converting some of your castles to towns if you have an excess amount of the former. I haven't played the vanilla grand campaign in years, but generally I try to have one castle per "region" (a region being an arbitrary area that I come up with in my head, but generally I try to have an army stationed inside a castle that'll defend the nearby areas). How you define region is up to you, but if you're playing as England then you don't need more than two castles on the British Isles, maybe only one in the vanilla campaign. Thanks both of you for the advice. I mostly man my garrisons with pretty much whatever keeps order, and keep my high-tier castle+ units to the frontline settlements. Maybe i'm focusing too much on high tier units? In my last egypt game, I had 2 full armies of Mamluks/Mamluk Archers/Saracen militia/Dismounted mamluks/Desert archers/trebuchets that I kept in the furthest up coastal cities, since they were besieged the most. This composition worked well for me in battles, but maybe it was overkill? I noticed that the AI armies frequently had a bunch of low tier militia spearmen or even townsfolk/peasents. I'll try using merchants more though, I pretty much ignored them previously. THE PWNER fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jul 19, 2012 |
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The new PC Gamer of this month has new screenshots of Rome 2. I need scans, quickly! 
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Imapanda posted:The new PC Gamer of this month has new screenshots of Rome 2. Godammit, I knew I should have bought that instead of a Pasty.
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Started to play Shogun 2 again so I'm getting back into a Total War groove. I have most of the main games, but I see that the Empire and Napoleon DLC is on sale. Should I grab them all or just the campaigns?
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shalcar posted:Uhhh, shogun 2 coop is nothing short of amazing now. It even resyncs in the event of a desync. It was dicey in vanilla, but its been really solid for a while now. In fact, I would recommend the game on the strength of the coop alone. My brother and I played Shogun 2 co-op a bunch when it first came out, and every game would eventually exhibit more and more frequent desyncs followed by crashes until it became unreasonable to try and continue with work-arounds. We tried a game in Rise of the Samurai when it first came out and had just about the same experience. So, if it has gotten better than that since then, that's great, but probably anyone in the same boat as me has little confidence in Shogun 2 multiplayer campaigns. When did they finish hammering out the issues with desyncs?
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LP97S posted:Started to play Shogun 2 again so I'm getting back into a Total War groove. I have most of the main games, but I see that the Empire and Napoleon DLC is on sale. Should I grab them all or just the campaigns? Might as well pick them all up at once. DLC at that price is sane as it will get.
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Did some searching and found out that you get all the extras that you can get on Steam, as the Elite Regiments and Heroes of the Napoleonic Wars packs aren't available outside of boxed copies.
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LP97S posted:Started to play Shogun 2 again so I'm getting back into a Total War groove. I have most of the main games, but I see that the Empire and Napoleon DLC is on sale. Should I grab them all or just the campaigns? Most people play Empire and Napleon with mods that give you more units than you could ever want or use so its not really all that important you get the unit packs. Definitely get the Penninsular Campaign DLC for Napoleon though, good stuff that is.
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The DLC does add new models to your game and most big mods are already prepared to reskin the DLC stuff too. Be warned though, they designed that campaign DLC so the best way to win is not paint the campaign map your factions colour. I've still yet to win a victory with that one.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Be warned though, they designed that campaign DLC so the best way to win is not paint the campaign map your factions colour. Do you mean the liberate to Spain vs occupy yourself dynamic for the British? When I played it as the Brits I felt I liberated too much and got stuck with a bunch of expensive guerillas and too few line troops. And no cash.
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Siets posted:I'm in desperate need of advice on dealing with cavalry archer armies in M2:TW. They feel like such bullshit units, and the AI micros them really well to the point where all battles are starting to feel like a chore. Use a Horse Archer-using faction yourself and then marvel at how poorly the AI actually micros their units. There's a reason I love playing as Russia in M2:TW (or Scythia in R:TW, but that's even more hilariously unbalanced) and it's their bountiful supply of Horse Archers in various disguises. The main problem is that they sometimes run out of arrows before I'm finished killing everything (or the usual M2:TW problem of a few stray individuals wandering into the middle of an enemy formation, spoiling my no-loss battles). Learn to set up enfilade fire zones, learn what sort of turning circles your units need and learn when to turn Skirmish off and you will never lose a field battle again. (You'll never win a siege battle either, but hey-ho.)
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So, did anyone ever mod Napoleon to get a large, global campaign with the improved AI and other improvements that the game provided?
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Diogines posted:So, did anyone ever mod Napoleon to get a large, global campaign with the improved AI and other improvements that the game provided? They still can't mod the AI properly and edit the campaign map yet. Sorry.
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Damnit. I want cool line battles and global conquest and descent AI all in one package.
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Diogines posted:Damnit. I want cool line battles and global conquest and descent AI all in one package. Get the source code of both Total War and Victoria and a time machine along with a list of the key people in charge and you will fulfill such a wish. Also, anyone else can't believe Shogun 2 lost that vote for sale?
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Kersch posted:My brother and I played Shogun 2 co-op a bunch when it first came out, and every game would eventually exhibit more and more frequent desyncs followed by crashes until it became unreasonable to try and continue with work-arounds. We tried a game in Rise of the Samurai when it first came out and had just about the same experience. So, if it has gotten better than that since then, that's great, but probably anyone in the same boat as me has little confidence in Shogun 2 multiplayer campaigns. When did they finish hammering out the issues with desyncs? Each patch has usually fixed a few, but the big one was the patch with fall which gave the game automatic resyncing rather than a desync error. I've played one vanilla campaign I had to abandon due to sync issues, two rise campaigns to completion but needed to sync a lot and two fall campaigns that I have never had to sync (one was 130 turns!) So however their resync tech works, it gives me a good game.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Get the source code of both Total War and Victoria and a time machine along with a list of the key people in charge and you will fulfill such a wish. I don't need that. Napoleon had better ai then Empire, or am I imagining things?
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SeanBeansShako posted:Also, anyone else can't believe Shogun 2 lost that vote for sale? Can I believe it lost the vote? Yes. Can I believe it lose the vote to Dead Island? No.
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Diogines posted:I don't need that. Slightly better. I hear the Darth Mod guy has actually tweaked the AI pretty drat good with the latest release of his mod both ETW, NTW and Shogun 2.
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Diogines posted:So, did anyone ever mod Napoleon to get a large, global campaign with the improved AI and other improvements that the game provided? The problem with Empire's global campaign was that the AI, even patched, still can't handle the map transitions, so unless a scenario gave a country a province in one of the colonial regions, that country would never be there.
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It's a shame the new total war is just a rehash of rome; they should have picked a more interesting time period, like the fifth and fourth century hellenic world.
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I think they have pretty much established a rhythm of Shogun -> Rome -> Medieval at this point, though I'd love for them to focus more on Renaissance Pike and Shot era rather than the 900's-1400's.
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Omnicarus posted:I think they have pretty much established a rhythm of Shogun -> Rome -> Medieval at this point, though I'd love for them to focus more on Renaissance Pike and Shot era rather than the 900's-1400's. But it went shogun -> medieval -> rome -> medieval -> empire -> shogun -> rome?
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shalcar posted:But it went shogun -> medieval -> rome -> medieval -> empire -> shogun -> rome? If they do Gun Powder again, they should just start at 1600 and end at 1821 hopefully. And fingers crossed they will do it better.
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Is Fall of the Samurai worth getting, once it gets a proper daily/flash deal on Steam? I already got the base Shogun 2 which I play sporadically (Its not that I don't like it, just that I find some of the mechanics hard to get my head around.)
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Unlucky7 posted:Is Fall of the Samurai worth getting, once it gets a proper daily/flash deal on Steam? I already got the base Shogun 2 which I play sporadically (Its not that I don't like it, just that I find some of the mechanics hard to get my hear around.) Absolutely, a new unit set, tech tree and mechanics make it fresh and have a completely different feel to the base game and rise. It also features realm divide done right. Naval bombardment is worth the price of admission alone on the flash deal.
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Panzeh posted:The problem with Empire's global campaign was that the AI, even patched, still can't handle the map transitions, so unless a scenario gave a country a province in one of the colonial regions, that country would never be there. I don't know if this was a change from Darth mod, but in my current Empire game the Mugals, after conquering most of India have attacked and taken land in both America and Europe.
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I believe Darth Mod is pretty famous for it's Mugal naval invasion death stacks. In the base game it doesn't really happen.
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I bought Rome during the Steam sale recently, and I'm having trouble getting it to run in 1920x1080. Whenever I select it in the settings, my monitor goes black and I just get an 'Input Not Supported' message. Never had this problem with any other games. Anyone got any ideas?
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