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Baron Bifford posted:Geoff Johns also created an Infra-Red Lantern Corps. In fact, there are five Infra-Red Lanterns on that cover. Can you spot them all? Man, those are going to be a *bitch* to make into Toy Rings.
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Make 'em out of clear plastic with a reddish tint and maybe a little red LED that lights up inside? Eh, never mind, I see your point.
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Jul 24, 2012 22:31
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Only wise men can see these toy rings.
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Jul 24, 2012 23:49
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Those third army dudes or whatever the gently caress is behind the lanterns look like the unfinished clones from the Stallone Judge Dredd and it's freaking me out.
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Mr. Squishy posted:Only wise men can see these toy rings. Oh! Oh, I see them! And I'mwearing one too!
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FF #20: Artist Nick Dragotta draws the funniest face I've ever seen on Black Bolt.
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He looks like Barry from The Tick.
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TwoPair posted:FF #20: Artist Nick Dragotta draws the funniest face I've ever seen on Black Bolt. He just sat in something REALLY unpleasant.
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The FF artist if it's been the same throughout just hates Black Bolt because that's certainly not the first Black Bolt weird face that's been posted here.
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Jul 26, 2012 17:18
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I think he hates drawing well.
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Am I seriously reading people making GBS threads on Nick Dragotta? I'm pretty sure he makes Black Bolt's face emotive because the dude DOESN'T loving SPEAK.
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Jul 26, 2012 17:29
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d00gZ posted:Am I seriously reading people making GBS threads on Nick Dragotta? I'm pretty sure he makes Black Bolt's face emotive because the dude DOESN'T loving SPEAK. I don't think the fact he makes his face "emotive" is the reason he is being poo poo upon.
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Lurdiak posted:I think he hates drawing well. CharlestheHammer posted:I don't think the fact he makes his face "emotive" is the reason he is being poo poo upon. He also draws the faces of a few dozen other characters, who do not exhibit the same problems shown in the two Black Bolt faces singled out in this thread. You can argue that his interpretation of Black Bolt is dumb/bad/etc. but it's pretty clearly an artistic choice and not just "Hi I'm Nick Dragotta and I can't draw for poo poo! Want proof? Here, let's cherry pick two panels! What, no I didn't draw anyone else!"
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Edge & Christian posted:Nick Dragotta draws more in a given issue of FF than just Black Bolt's face. He has had two Black Bolt faces singled out in this thread as weird/goofy/lovely. I wasn't talking about the artist overall, just that panel. People aren't making GBS threads on him just because that panel is "emotive" just its weird looking. Just because you don't like one panel means you think the artist is bad, unless you say that. VVV I wasn't talking about you, you specifically said he was bad, but you were the only one. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jul 26, 2012 |
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Jul 26, 2012 17:44
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I totally think the artist is bad, I dropped FF after two issues even though I loved the writing.
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Jul 26, 2012 17:50
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Maybe he likes drawing Black Bolt with weird faces.
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Jul 26, 2012 17:56
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Lurdiak posted:I totally think the artist is bad, I dropped FF after two issues even though I loved the writing. Dragotta gave us Peter Parker's Crazy Alien Drink Extravaganza, and for that, I'll always be grateful.
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Codependent Poster posted:Maybe he likes drawing Black Bolt with weird faces. I like reading a book with Black Bolt making funny faces.
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Jul 26, 2012 18:04
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I had presumed that Dragotta was being posted as an example of good art 
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I figured they were trying to catch up with that smaller, Winnebago-sized ship, by going to ludicrous speed.
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Jul 26, 2012 19:21
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From Cable & Deadpool #30, This is just painful to look at, both pose and perspective.
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Waterhaul posted:I had presumed that Dragotta was being posted as an example of good art His art is good it's just he seems to have a habit of drawing bad Black Bolts.
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That Ignorant Sap posted:From Cable & Deadpool #30, This is just painful to look at, both pose and perspective. Didn't know DD was a yoga enthusiast.
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Jul 26, 2012 22:38
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Didn't know DD was a superheroine.
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Jul 26, 2012 22:49
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That Psylocke vs Daredevil should have been just a bunch of those poses.
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Jul 26, 2012 22:52
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That Ignorant Sap posted:From Cable & Deadpool #30, This is just painful to look at, both pose and perspective. Gah, what the gently caress? 90 degree back spine bend AND 90 degree hips twist, weird straightleg incredily tight splits, broken ankle, extremely long legs, extremely short arms, dislocated shoulder, entirely absent neck, stretched torso... what ISN'T wrong with that? No wonder he's grimacing.
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Jul 26, 2012 23:10
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When I see that panel I want to add a big sound effect coming from his back going "CRAAAACKKK!".
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Jul 26, 2012 23:20
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I don't even think my GI Joes could do that pose without the mid-section elastic band snapping.
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Peel posted:Didn't know DD was a superheroine. Only the most powerful male heroes can pull off the classic "boobs + butt" pose.
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Bubble-T posted:Only the most powerful male heroes can pull off the classic "boobs + butt" pose. The gay crowd are entitled to some eye candy too 
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That's actually Iron Fist in disguise. This was during Civil War, and I can't remember why he took over. Is this why Luke Cage hangs around him so much? It was brought up in an earlier issue of C&Dp that there could have been some deep dark desire there... Between Cable and DP, too, what with the back massages and all. "Nate, can I use WD-40 on your left shoulder?"
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thespaceinvader posted:Gah, what the gently caress? I think whoever drew this must have been referencing the Spider-Man pose cheat sheet. Gratuitous rear end shot, legs spread, arms flailing, yeah all the check boxes are marked.
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Madkal posted:Didn't know DD was a yoga enthusiast. Honestly, I think that a lot of artists ARE drawing from extreme sports and yoga for their body poses. Obviously they're exaggerated, but at the same time the human body is capable of ridiculous flexibility if you train it enough--and aren't superheroes (the human kind) expected to be peak possible humans in all disciplines and trainings? DD's pose looks like a combo of:  and  Some of the poses are even more ridiculous than what comics put out.    Mister Roboto fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Jul 27, 2012 |
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If it was just stuff like that it would be OK. The human body bends that way, just about. But his lower leg, for instance, flops like a wet noodle through about a 30 degree sideways bend, and his torso looks like it would be significantly longer than his arms if he was standing upright etc etc. It's not that it's a difficult or strange-lookiing position, it's that it's outright impossible, just like most of the weird t&a shots. I mean, even the contortionist/yogic back bend in the second shot there is fine, but they wouldn't be able to do that easily whilst leaping through the air, stretching to catch a thrown baton, and doing the splits, and more crucially, they wouldn't be able to do that and twist their torsos round to the side at the same time. They're clearly not drawing from reference, or it wouldn't be so poo poo. e: the second from bottom there is closest, I guess. I am finding it very hard to parse that pose.
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Any chance that the artist was purposely mocking the tits and rear end poses commonly seen on female superheroines? That is taken from a Deadpool comic after all.
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Mister Roboto posted:Honestly, I think that a lot of artists ARE drawing from extreme sports and yoga for their body poses. Obviously they're exaggerated, but at the same time the human body is capable of ridiculous flexibility if you train it enough--and aren't superheroes (the human kind) expected to be peak possible humans in all disciplines and trainings? Those sure are fighting poses. In peak physical condition, the human body can bend into all sorts of weird shapes. Even the boobs n' butt is technically possible. But no one fights like that. Superhero comic artists shouldn't reference yoga unless the character is stretching. They should reference boxing, wrestling, martial arts, etc.
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Fruits of the sea posted:Any chance that the artist was purposely mocking the tits and rear end poses commonly seen on female superheroines? That is taken from a Deadpool comic after all. Female superheroines? As opposed to the male superheroines I suppose  It's possible. One can but hope. But it still doesn't excuse the myriad issues aside from the T&A pose. I think it's the wonky ankle that bothers me most.
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That Ignorant Sap posted:That's actually Iron Fist in disguise. This was during Civil War, and I can't remember why he took over. Because Brubaker threw Matt Murdock in jail, but his editor didn't bother to tell anyone else at Marvel.
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That Ignorant Sap posted:That's actually Iron Fist in disguise. This was during Civil War, and I can't remember why he took over. I thought Danny didn't take over for Matt until he was in jail which was well past this point, wasn't it?
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Rhyno posted:I thought Danny didn't take over for Matt until he was in jail which was well past this point, wasn't it? Yes. Bendis put Matt in jail at the end of his run. The end of Brubakers first arc Matt finds out that there's another Daredevil running around New York so breaks out to see who it is. It turns out to be Iron Fist who had received a request to dress up as Daredevil while Matt was in jail and had presumed that Matt/Foggy had made the request to take some of the heat of Matt. Vanessa Fisk ends up being the mastermind in a big long "last act of vengeance" plan. There was some bad back tracking over the identity from Marvel when the reveal was accidently leaked early.
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