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Base Emitter
Apr 1, 2012

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Wheat? I don't think I'm familiar with any wheat whiskeys unless I'm forgetting something. Is it noticeably different and worth looking out for? Recommendations?

I think Tennessee whiskey has to be made in Tennessee. It can be classified as bourbon based on the legal definition of bourbon, but Tennessee distillers don't call it that and insist its something different.

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Jo3sh
Oct 19, 2002

Like all girls I love unicorns!

Mr. Glass posted:

Pretty sure they can't call it bourbon if it's not made in Kentucky.

The reason Jack Daniel's is not Bourbon is the charcoal filtering thing they do.

Hm, maybe I am wrong. Wiki says that JD meets the legal definition of Bourbon, but that the distillery chooses not to market the whiskey that way.

Jo3sh fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Jul 29, 2012

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Being called "Tennessee Whiskey" is one of their unique selling points. Tennessee Whiskey can only be made there and can only be called that if it's been through the so called "Lincoln County Process" which is the charcoal filtering.

I'm not certain if it has to have been produced in Lincoln to qualify but I'm pretty sure it does have to be produced in Tennessee.

e: reading up some more on the wikipedias and the charcoal filtering isn't mandatory.

spankmeister fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Jul 29, 2012

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
New premium wheated bourbon from Heaven Hill... Larceny. Average retail is $25/bottle; 92 proof.
http://www.heavenhill.com/detail/145


Named for John E. Fitzgerald who was a distiller of premium bourbon after the Civil War. Years later it was revealed that Fitzgerald was actually a Treasury Agent pilfering bourbon and reselling it as his own.

First impressions (tl;dr similar to Maker's Mark but favorable):
http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2012/07/27/some-new-bourbon-and-rye-whiskeys/
http://lewbryson.blogspot.com/2012/07/heaven-hills-larceny.html

North Carolina is on the list so if I can score some, I'll post my thoughts.

Hubbins
Sep 3, 2007
THIS is what a Hubbins looks like.

Base Emitter posted:

Wheat? I don't think I'm familiar with any wheat whiskeys unless I'm forgetting something. Is it noticeably different and worth looking out for? Recommendations?

I know of one wheat whiskey. It is OYO Whiskey distilled by Middle West Spirits in Columbus, OH. (only reason I know is because I live here) I'm pretty sure availability outside of Ohio is quite limited though. Never tried it but I'm thinking I might have to.

Hubbins fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jul 29, 2012

attila
Jun 15, 2007
To dream the impossible dream...?

Jo3sh posted:

The reason Jack Daniel's is not Bourbon is the charcoal filtering thing they do.

Hm, maybe I am wrong. Wiki says that JD meets the legal definition of Bourbon, but that the distillery chooses not to market the whiskey that way.

From what I've heard, Jack Daniels reuses their barrels which is why even if the mash bill is similar to a typical bourbon, it can't be called bourbon. They probably bu quite a few older bourbon barrels since they're only used once for bourbon.

The charcoal filtration has nothing to do with it. Most distilleries probably filter their barrel aged spirits to remove particulates. My most recent distillery tour was Woodford Reserve and they have a pit set up for charcoal filtration when blending barrels for bottling. I'm guessing plenty of others do as well.

For a whiskey thread there sure are a lot of people confused on what makes a specific style of whiskey Irish, Canadian, Scotch, Bourbon, etc.

zenbassist04
May 11, 2009
Can anyone tell me about Caledonian Distillery? My fiancee wants to buy me a bottle of scotch for our wedding and I thought their 1965 sounded interesting. I generally drink Macallan 12 and Old Pulteney. As a poor grad student this may be may last chance to get a good scotch for years, so any recommendations are appreciated.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

attila posted:

From what I've heard, Jack Daniels reuses their barrels which is why even if the mash bill is similar to a typical bourbon, it can't be called bourbon. They probably bu quite a few older bourbon barrels since they're only used once for bourbon.

Tennessee Whiskey is just bourbon made in Tennessee.

quote:

NAFTA: Annex 313: Distinctive Products
1. Canada and Mexico shall recognize Bourbon Whiskey and Tennessee Whiskey, which is a straight Bourbon Whiskey authorized to be produced only in the State of Tennessee, as distinctive products of the United States. Accordingly, Canada and Mexico shall not permit the sale of any product as Bourbon Whiskey or Tennessee Whiskey, unless it has been manufactured in the United States in accordance with the laws and regulations of the United States governing the manufacture of Bourbon Whiskey and Tennessee Whiskey.
2. Mexico and the United States shall recognize Canadian Whisky as a distinctive product of Canada. Accordingly, Mexico and the United States shall not permit the sale of any product as Canadian Whisky, unless it has been manufactured in Canada in accordance with the laws and regulations of Canada governing the manufacture of Canadian Whisky for consumption in Canada.

3. Canada and the United States shall recognize Tequila and Mezcal as distinctive products of Mexico. Accordingly, Canada and the United States shall not permit the sale of any product as Tequila or Mezcal, unless it has been manufactured in Mexico in accordance with the laws and regulations of Mexico governing the manufacture of Tequila and Mezcal. This provision shall apply to Mezcal, either on the date of entry into force of this Agreement, or 90 days after the date when the official standard for this product is made obligatory by the Government of Mexico, whichever is later.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Caledolian is a closed distillery that produced grain whisky for blending.

As such, I don't recommend spending lots of money on it, you should find a decent old single malt instead. Old grain whisky itself is interesting but for the money you can get much, much nicer single malts.

BTW, You say "their" 1965 but there is no such thing strictly speaking. They never bottled their spirit officially so any bottlings out there will be done by independents.

Independent bottlings can vary wildly in quality so you need to do your research on each individual bottling before you buy it. There have been some rotten ones I'm afraid. You can't just go: "Oh this is a Macallan from 1970, macallan is good and this one is old so it must be OK!"
No, you need to find out what bottler did it, what kind of casks, what batch no. if any and then go online to read the reviews on it.

Letifa
Jul 15, 2012

Apply tiger balm

wormil posted:

My first taste of Laphroaig really put me off but after a day I couldn't stop thinking about it and wanted more, then I just kept wanting it. It's odd because I wouldn't say I like it but something about it has me on the hook.

I'd have to agree on this... I'm drinking my second glass right now, I'm actually not that fond of the taste, but I cant bear letting it stand either, bit of a love-hate relationship I suppose.

Ample
Dec 26, 2007
Edit: Nevermind

Ample fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jan 3, 2013

attila
Jun 15, 2007
To dream the impossible dream...?
Saw this on my morning check of interesting sites:

http://clayrisen.com

Sounds like he's working on a book about the history of American whiskey and will be posting some regular tasting notes as he works through the various offerings.

One of his posts actually linked to the federal labeling requirements for whiskey sold in the U.S. Here's the relevant chapter:

http://www.ttb.gov/spirits/bam/chapter4.pdf

And the entire manual:

http://www.ttb.gov/spirits/bam.shtml

DoctaFun
Dec 12, 2005

Dammit Francis!
Had my first glass of whiskey in awhile and decided to go with some Jameson 12. This stuff is ridiculously smooth, it's a great sipping whiskey when you aren't feeling up to something really strong or really bold. Definitely a laid back drink.

I need to get going on my whisky cabinet though, since I moved into my new place I haven't been getting into it too much. I have an unopened bottle of Aberlour 16 that I need to try, anyone have any experience with that?

Also, I have a bottle of Talisker 10 that I've only taken one drink out of, just really not a fan. I guess I can't really handle that smokey/peaty stuff, and I guess this isn't even that heavy in those aspects? Anyways, if anyone lives in the twin cities and wants to stop by I'd give it away for $20 or something. I think it's normally like $50 or $60 right? Anyways, I probably won't be finishing it anytime soon.

ANd the other day a friend bought me a bottle of Dimple Pinch blended scotch, anyone ever had this stuff? I found it to be ridiculously sweet, almost couldn't finish a glass of it...

pork never goes bad
May 16, 2008

Aberlour 16 is really nice. Overall, as a big fan of sherried scotch, Aberlour is one of my two favorite distilleries. The 16 is less sweet, less candied fruit, than the 12. My favorite is the A'bunadh, a cask strength offering with no age statement (they use some extremely rich sherry butts in this, and typically use small quantities of younger whiskies to balance that out - since age statements are of the youngest whisky in the blend this practice can "undersell" an otherwise excellent whisky, hence no age statement). The 12 is sweeter, simpler, but with similar or slightly lower sherry influence. The 10 the same but more so. A'bunadh has the highest sherry influence of all, an unrepentant sherry bomb. Either way, you can't go wrong with Aberlour in my book.

ETA A'bunadh varies from batch to batch - they're not trying to match a specific flavor, so much as make a very good single malt blended from a variety of casks of various ages, all sherry butts, that expresses sherry character in scotch excellently.

Duckboat
May 15, 2012
I was gifted a bottle of Midleton, 2007 bottling. Anyone have any experience with it? I do tend to like Irish whiskey in general, but I hear that each year's bottling can vary a fair deal.

Also, it's stored upright in a dark place, am I doing it right? :ohdear:

Duckboat fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Aug 1, 2012

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



How can I tell which bottle of Evan Williams is the good small-batch to get?

Old Man Pants
Nov 22, 2010

Strippers are people too!

Pulled the trigger on a bottle of blantons. Holy poo poo this is the some of the smoothest bourbon Ever. I am astounded by the intricate flavors and how a little bit of water opens its flavor right up.

:drat:

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






22 Eargesplitten posted:

How can I tell which bottle of Evan Williams is the good small-batch to get?

All of them.

All of the bottles.




More seriously: It's called "small batch" but it's still very much mass-produced and the difference between batches are negligible. Just get a bottle. :)

NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans

spankmeister posted:

More seriously: It's called "small batch" but it's still very much mass-produced and the difference between batches are negligible. Just get a bottle. :)

Yeah, single-barrel offerings are generally the only ones where you'll see actual variability between batches. In fact, I would suggest you upgrade to Evan Williams Single Barrel, because it is cheap and fantastic. I've never had a stinker from them.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I'll see about trying that next time. I got a 375ml of some Evan Williams or other. Holy poo poo, it's delicious. It feels wrong that this was actually cheaper than the same size bottle of jack.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Jack has it's unique flavour but really Evan Williams is better in almost every way.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
Speaking of Evan Williams, is there a story other than "poorly chosen stock photograph" here?

Mr.Unique-Name
Jul 5, 2002

Base Emitter posted:

Wheat? I don't think I'm familiar with any wheat whiskeys unless I'm forgetting something. Is it noticeably different and worth looking out for? Recommendations?

I got Dry Fly Washington Wheat Whiskey, and it's definitely different. I'm not sure if I could really recommend it. It doesn't seem terribly complex, but it is pretty smooth. I'm unfortunately very bad at giving tasting notes.

Also, am I weird for liking George Dickel? Everybody's talking about Evan Williams and JD but I think Dickel's better for the price, although it is a bit more expensive.

the chic in psychic
Jun 18, 2005
U r Stinky Mcbutt mkay?
Bought a bottle of Hakushu 12yr a couple of days ago, and, drat, i think i got a new favorite :3:

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Probably nothing more than a shout-out to EW? I see this with craft beer a lot - brewers from one place will wear t-shirts from another to events, etc.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

is Sazerac Rye a really limited quantity, or am I just artificially limited up here in Omaha? There were 3 bottles in the store last month when I bought the one I just finished. It makes me sad because I liked it :(

Jahoodie
Jun 27, 2005
Wooo.... college!

The Entire Universe posted:

is Sazerac Rye a really limited quantity, or am I just artificially limited up here in Omaha? There were 3 bottles in the store last month when I bought the one I just finished. It makes me sad because I liked it :(

Limited in most places, it was impossible to get for awhile in Jersey but now it's generally around if you look for it (though the price is up $5 in most places).

feld
Feb 11, 2008

Out of nowhere its.....

Feldman

This is some of the best whiskey I've ever had in my life. And it's made very, very local.



http://yaharabay.com/
http://www.charredoakspirits.com/


This specific whiskey took gold at the recent SIP awards


edit: I've had some of their others, but and their regular Whiskey and the "Lightening Whiskey" are both good, but this is... GREAT.

edit2: I have NOT had the bourbon yet. Or if I did, I was too drunk to remember :(

feld fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Aug 7, 2012

NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans
So with all the peaty stuff I currently own, I thought it might be fun to branch out a bit. Can anyone suggest a good, sherry-influenced scotch? I've tried the Glenmorangie Lasanta which I thought was just so-so.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






NightConqueror posted:

So with all the peaty stuff I currently own, I thought it might be fun to branch out a bit. Can anyone suggest a good, sherry-influenced scotch? I've tried the Glenmorangie Lasanta which I thought was just so-so.

Aberlour A'bunadh. A true sherry bomb.

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
tube man
Glendronach. Whichever of the core range fits your bill.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib

spankmeister posted:

Aberlour A'bunadh. A true sherry bomb.

Seconding this. First time I tasted A'bunadh, my comment was "I was under the impression when they aged whisky in sherry casks, they generally took the sherry out first."

GEEKABALL
May 30, 2011

Throw out your hands!!
Stick out your tush!!
Hands on your hips
Give them a push!!
Fun Shoe

NightConqueror posted:

So with all the peaty stuff I currently own, I thought it might be fun to branch out a bit. Can anyone suggest a good, sherry-influenced scotch? I've tried the Glenmorangie Lasanta which I thought was just so-so.

I like Balvenie Double Wood.

Haverchuck
May 6, 2005

the coolest

NightConqueror posted:

So with all the peaty stuff I currently own, I thought it might be fun to branch out a bit. Can anyone suggest a good, sherry-influenced scotch? I've tried the Glenmorangie Lasanta which I thought was just so-so.

I like Glenfarclas!

pork never goes bad
May 16, 2008

I can only second the suggestions thus far. Glendronach, Glenfarclas, and Aberlour are all awesome sherried scotches. If you want strong peat and sherry, Bowmore has a decent sherried offering, and there is a fancy vatted malt from AD Rattray floating about that's 19 yrs and heavily sherried (4 casks from 4 distilleries, 19-21 years of age, all first fill sherry butts, 1 highland, 1 lowland, 1 island, 1 Islay or something like that - maybe 1 Speysider instead of 1 island)

NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans
Dear god, so many good suggestions. I think I might give the Aberlour A'bunadh a shot , or maybe a Glendronach. The A'bunadh is pretty reasonably priced too (~$60), which was a surprise.

I've still got my eye on an Ardbeg Uigeadail too, but I've got to limit myself to one whisky a month!

Cpt.Wacky
Apr 17, 2005
I picked up the Aberlour 12 today since the local store didn't have the A'bunadh. It's definitely got sherry but not overwhelming. Their scotch shelves were starting to look empty and the clerk said they were finally running out of the old stock from when it was a state-run store. They're trying to figure out what new stuff to order now so I'm looking forward to some new stuff that I haven't been able to find locally yet.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




I would agree with most guys here the Aberlour A'bunadh is really excellent. Or the Auchentoshen Three Wood is another really excellent choice if you want a sweet sherried whisky.

biglads
Feb 21, 2007

I could've gone to Blatherwycke



Tsk, Sherried Scotch?

Mortlach supremacy.

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Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




biglads posted:

Tsk, Sherried Scotch?

Mortlach supremacy.

Mortlach is really good, but I would say the Auchentoshen Three Wood is just as good and about million times easier to get.

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