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prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance
I would honestly rather pay $10 than $0 for a multiplayer game. The $10 is the price to keep out people who can't scrape together $10. It works alright for Something Awful.

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miscellaneous14
Mar 27, 2010

neat
I'm gonna start a list of people who want to be involved in some goon vs goon premades. Post a link to your Steam page if you want to be included in this.

List so far:
1. miscellaneous14 (http://steamcommunity.com/user/davideogamer)
2. Kikka
3. Noi Albinoi/Jimmy (http://steamcommunity.com/id/AltusAngelus)
4. moot the hopple (http://steamcommunity.com/id/philippeotter)
5. ContraceptiveCereal (http://steamcommunity.com/id/ContraceptiveCereal)
6. Momotaros (https://steamcommunity.com/id/captainCOmmando)
7. Ezzer (http://steamcommunity.com/id/bv)
8. Rhontos (http://steamcommunity.com/id/Rhontos/home)
9. prom candy (http://steamcommunity.com/id/omgsean)

miscellaneous14 fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Aug 10, 2012

Noi Albinoi
Nov 4, 2008

miscellaneous14 posted:

I'm gonna start a list of people who want to be involved in some goon vs goon premades. Post a link to your Steam page if you want to be included in this.

List so far:
1. miscellaneous14 (steamcommunity.com/user/davideogamer)
2. Kikka

Jimmy. (http://steamcommunity.com/id/AltusAngelus)

jodai
Mar 2, 2010

Banging with all due hardness.

Shadowhand00 posted:

Echoing some sentiments in here about Leon being nerfed - I don't really mind him unless I'm playing Voltar - then I get a little frustrated. That being said, instead of nerfing his damage, the most effective nerf would be for his invisibilty to be slightly visible (kind of like the Predator running around) rather than nerfing his damage.

This would probably make people whine more than anything else. I don't know if this has been mentioned before but on the AI station, after the initial turret has been destroyed, there's an area where the floor lights up when you walk on it and Leon makes the floor light up even when he's invisible. As Lonestar, I noticed this and would walk up, drop triple dynamite and start blasting and I don't think the Leon player ever knew how I knew he was there. If Leon players are forced to have a bit more awareness and can't just stand there waiting for easy kills, it might make some of them change up their style but it also might cause a lot of them to call the game ruined and never play again.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

prom candy posted:

I would honestly rather pay $10 than $0 for a multiplayer game. The $10 is the price to keep out people who can't scrape together $10. It works alright for Something Awful.
Also, it'd be terrible if there were swarms of new/poor(young and without payment choices) players stuck using lonestar and voltar and clunk, and everybody who used Derpl or Yuri or the hovergirl or Leon etc, had paid to use them.

moot the hopple
Apr 26, 2008

dyslexic Bowie clone

miscellaneous14 posted:

I'm gonna start a list of people who want to be involved in some goon vs goon premades. Post a link to your Steam page if you want to be included in this.

List so far:
1. miscellaneous14 (http://steamcommunity.com/user/davideogamer)
2. Kikka
3. Noi Albinoi/Jimmy (http://steamcommunity.com/id/AltusAngelus)

http://steamcommunity.com/id/philippeotter

I'll also be in the group Steam chat at 5ish PST if dudes want to get some pubstomp going.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

I just got this last night, and have been playing as Froggy G. Froggy G makes Leon his bitch and I love it.

Can other people hear your music when you go on a killing spree or is it just your local?

Apple Jax
May 19, 2008

IDIC 4 LYF

IcePhoenix posted:

Can other people hear your music when you go on a killing spree or is it just your local?

Nah, you just hear your own theme music, unfortunately. I was disappointed when I learned this, everyone should be forced to hear your song after your killing spree.

Apple Jax fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Aug 7, 2012

miscellaneous14
Mar 27, 2010

neat
I am having a hell of a time getting Derpl to work well at all. The turret mode has way too little range and damage-output to be worth committing to a single spot for about five seconds, so I just end up spamming the cats while laying down traps everywhere.

What is the methodology of this class.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

emptyquote my posts or die

miscellaneous14 posted:

I am having a hell of a time getting Derpl to work well at all. The turret mode has way too little range and damage-output to be worth committing to a single spot for about five seconds, so I just end up spamming the cats while laying down traps everywhere.

What is the methodology of this class.

Derpl used to be insanely overpowered — his nuke was out of control — and the outcry was so loud and unanimous on the ronimo forums that the devs nerfed him too much. Now he's basically only good for traps and dealing damage from behind turrets. They've been tweaking him like crazy, so I'd wait for the next patch before you pass judgement.

John Q. Sixpublic
Oct 8, 2008
I don't mind that Leon can gank you if you are low somewhere by yourself, and even his pull is fair. But right now his stealth is basically get out of jail free, he can solo turrets and your base by himself, and he is too strong in just straight up fistfights. A lot of games I play end up where even if I have gone all game avoiding his assassination attempts and scaring him away, at some point he can just run straight up to me unstealthed and beat me up with autoattacks. Then proceed to backdoor the base and get it down to half health before anyone could react.

John Q. Sixpublic
Oct 8, 2008

miscellaneous14 posted:

I am having a hell of a time getting Derpl to work well at all. The turret mode has way too little range and damage-output to be worth committing to a single spot for about five seconds, so I just end up spamming the cats while laying down traps everywhere.

What is the methodology of this class.

For Derpl: get movespeed and turret range upgrades, run around and farm and push lanes and avoid 1v1 fights. If you see your allies tangling with enemies, jump behind them and turret up to pin them in. Lategame, turret shield and health buffs means you can set up somewhere obnoxious and plink away into the teamfights, as long as your allies are smart and try to drag the brawl toward where you have set up (as long as you put yourself in a smart spot). Also the turret has a 3 second cooldown, and the Deployment Pads will reduce that as well if it's too annoying.

FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!
I like to snare people in the mines then transform and send a nuke to greet them, a lot of people also like to hug derpl in turret mode, so that's a point blank nuke to the face.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

miscellaneous14 posted:

I am having a hell of a time getting Derpl to work well at all. The turret mode has way too little range and damage-output to be worth committing to a single spot for about five seconds, so I just end up spamming the cats while laying down traps everywhere.

What is the methodology of this class.
As mentioned, he's in the midst of being overbalanced however in the meantime, keep in mind that his sticky mines are really hard to get around and can be used to mostly lock down a lane, and when you're in turret mode you can still drop through clear platforms, which means you can deploy and hide in a camoflage room, then drop down onto somebody's head and shoot the gently caress out of them and drop a nuke on they rear end

CupNoodleKing
Feb 17, 2011


I can't remember who was concerned about it in the goon games yesterday but just so everyone knows, when you prestige all the characters remain unlocked (practice levels too I think). The perks get reset, though.

Zach the Drifter
Jul 16, 2006
I have to say, I think the gameplay is good but the game is ruined by the multiplayer system. If your internet drops, you can not re-connect. More often than not you join a game already in progress and start behind. Sometimes the host drops and the whole game goes down. I would not suggest spending your 10$ on this game, I regret spending mine.

teknologik
Jul 24, 2006

Write it, cut it,
paste it, save it

coyo7e posted:

Also, it'd be terrible if there were swarms of new/poor(young and without payment choices) players stuck using lonestar and voltar and clunk, and everybody who used Derpl or Yuri or the hovergirl or Leon etc, had paid to use them.

Well you could do what other MOBA's do and just make characters rotate in and out of free play. Although with its current roster I could see how that would be kind of busted.

Some food for thought.. I saw a shadow in the load screen talking about a character 'coming soon'. I wonder if that will be released for free - or DLC.


Edit: All this being said and after reading the post above mine, I would still recommend this game for $10. I do think matchmaking can be pretty janky. It's a bit unbalanced at times. As a previous poster said, fixing that would turn a good game into a great game.

Kazvall
Mar 20, 2009

I mostly get new games that have just started. Games are over fast enough, where I just hit rematch and am guaranteed a fresh game.

Totally worth 10 bucks.

moot the hopple
Apr 26, 2008

dyslexic Bowie clone
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/awesomenautgoons

Join the steam group and group chat if you want to play with goons right now :aaa:

PalmTreeFun
Apr 25, 2010

*toot*
Derpl is so fun, I love that guy. Derpl + Voltar + Clunk is the best pubstomp team, the healing turret makes it so hard to kill you so can just go into siege mode, blow poo poo up, and tank a turret and 2 guys. Also outdamages Leon hard in siege mode.

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance

Kazvall posted:

I just hit rematch and am guaranteed a fresh game.

Wait, how does that work?

general chaos
May 20, 2001

prom candy posted:

Wait, how does that work?

If other people in that same game hit rematch, you're likely to be paired up with/against the same people. Otherwise you're paired up with a new group.

PalmTreeFun
Apr 25, 2010

*toot*
Rematch is the only guaranteed way to get a match that just started for the most part. I always do that if I'm not stomping or getting stomped repeatedly.

Mongoose
Jul 7, 2005
Just bought this last night. I had a lot of fun leveling up and switched from froggy-G to shoot'em-up-Tex. Getting piggybank at level 5 or 6 was my turning point; I start strong with movespeed and rush dynamite +1, explode on contact, and leech nades. From there I slap on a missile, and endgame max out my blaster. A strong primary attack is incredibly useful for dishing out damage at the end.

e:just realized how good +dmg then movespeed rush is...chasing anyone while pewing them to bits is too good. Especially when you follow with health and rockets.

Mongoose fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Aug 8, 2012

ContraceptiveCereal
Mar 27, 2010

miscellaneous14 posted:

I'm gonna start a list of people who want to be involved in some goon vs goon premades. Post a link to your Steam page if you want to be included in this.

List so far:
1. miscellaneous14 (http://steamcommunity.com/user/davideogamer)
2. Kikka
3. Noi Albinoi/Jimmy (http://steamcommunity.com/id/AltusAngelus)
4. moot the hopple (http://steamcommunity.com/id/philippeotter)

I'm in. I like playing Yuri, lean towards support for the IAS and healing, but mines are good too.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/ContraceptiveCereal

Ross Perowned
Jun 14, 2012

Shit in my hand and say yeah
What time do you guys usually play? I'm Us Central time and I get off work at midnight, any folk out there who work inhuman hours that want to play after 1am? Feel free to add me.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/captainCOmmando

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance
How do you guys like to build Froggy? I've been doing damage and cooldown on splash dash, getting the shield on tornado around level 6-7, and then maxing cooldown on splash and alternating between splash stun duration, tornado duration, and tornado speed.

Also: Is there a way to change the crosshair? I keep losing it and making bad plays.

RedRupee
Feb 25, 2012

Does anyone have plans to make streams/recordings of themselves playing? I enjoy playing the game but sometimes I need to do other things, and having Awesomenauts in the background while working would be pretty cool. I haven't been able to find any good streams yet, unfortunately.

Tezzeract
Dec 25, 2007

Think I took a wrong turn...
Looks like I still have two copies of Awesomenauts left for $5.66 after helping this goon get a copy. Post your Steam ID if interested.

Mr.Success
Jun 15, 2007

prom candy posted:

How do you guys like to build Froggy? I've been doing damage and cooldown on splash dash, getting the shield on tornado around level 6-7, and then maxing cooldown on splash and alternating between splash stun duration, tornado duration, and tornado speed.

Also: Is there a way to change the crosshair? I keep losing it and making bad plays.

That's pretty much how I've been going. Improve splash as much as possible first while fitting in tornado shield where I can. I normally take tornado damage over duration though, and make sure to max tornado speed before damage unless my team is spike heavy or I'm running away with the game at which point I just take damage first.

I wish I knew how to change the crosshair, it's truly awful.

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

teknologik posted:

Kind of wondering why they didn't op for a f2p game with purchasing of characters like LoL though.

It's a really obnoxious payscheme.

linall
Feb 1, 2007

Normal Adult Human posted:

It's a really obnoxious payscheme.

If you have to grind to unlock characters anyway I don't see why they wouldn't let you unlock whoever you want instead. Seems like it would be a straight up improvement. For example I could do with never having the heal/drone guy unlocked but waiting until 10 for surfer chick was excruciating.

e: vvv So on top of being a grind, it's a pointless grind? That's a pretty good defense.

linall fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Aug 9, 2012

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

linall posted:

If you have to grind to unlock characters anyway I don't see why they wouldn't let you unlock whoever you wanted instead. For example I could do with never having the heal/drone guy unlocked but waiting until 10 for surfer chick was excruciating.
The character unlock "grind" takes approximately one or two nights.

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

linall posted:

If you have to grind to unlock characters anyway I don't see why they wouldn't let you unlock whoever you want instead. Seems like it would be a straight up improvement. For example I could do with never having the heal/drone guy unlocked but waiting until 10 for surfer chick was excruciating.

If the game was free it would take thirty games to unlock each hero. Except for coco and derp, who would take 70.

FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!
Less than three hours actually to get derpl, it's not a problem.

linall
Feb 1, 2007

Normal Adult Human posted:

If the game was free it would take thirty games to unlock each hero. Except for coco and derp, who would take 70.

Possibly? I'm just saying this half of each approach isn't very good either. Why am I paying money to grind? If I was interested in that I'd be playing an MMO.

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
People love unlocking stuff?

BlueDestiny
Jun 18, 2011

Mega deal with it

linall posted:

Possibly? I'm just saying this half of each approach isn't very good either. Why am I paying money to grind? If I was interested in that I'd be playing an MMO.

Whether some like it or not, progression-style gameplay is incredibly popular these days.

I personally am not a huge fan of it, but I'd rather pay ten bucks for a short easy grind than nothing for a grind that takes over a week to unlock ONE character or I could pay that ten for ONE guy instead.

If you really want to level fast, just random your character each game. The multiplier is nuts.

Tezzeract
Dec 25, 2007

Think I took a wrong turn...
They have been scaling back the amount of unlocking that's required for fighting games and I think that's the right model for these types of games. After a couple of iterations of sequels or what not, people want to just get straight to the game with everyone available.

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bucketmouse
Aug 16, 2004

we con-trol the ho-ri-zon-tal
we con-trol the verrr-ti-cal
It seems like an okay compromise to lock Derpl behind a few levels so you have to play a handful of matches with easier people first given that a lot of the standard moba mechanics don't actually work like they do in other mobas. I still have no idea how to use him correctly. What was his damage like before he got nerfed? He seems sort of underpowered compared to the unstoppable murder machine that is Coco.

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