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The Clit Avoider
Aug 11, 2002

El Profesional

nomapple posted:

Personally I think they're the best BM band that the UK has to offer (unless we're counting Anaal Nathrakh in there, but they blend so many different genres that I don't really think of them as a BM project).

Nah. Not by a long shot.

Old Forest, Ghast, Adorior, White Medal are far superior. And historically, Darkness, Dead Christ are excellent too.

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Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

Shit Fuck Shit Fuck!
I'd like to urge everyone to check out Perversor from Chile because they rule.

Weaponized Cum
Aug 31, 2004


This post brought to you by the finest Miami cocaine money can buy ----->
South America rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKsZP6zJ9CM

Funeral Mist
Sep 30, 2009
I saw Agalloch last night. First 2 bands weren't the best but Agalloch killed it. Anyone else see them on this tour?

Objurium
Aug 8, 2009

Funeral Mist posted:

I saw Agalloch last night. First 2 bands weren't the best but Agalloch killed it. Anyone else see them on this tour?

Get to see them in LA tonight. Any other goons going? Who opened for them?

Objurium
Aug 8, 2009

thehouseplant
May 2, 2007

Objurium posted:

Get to see them in LA tonight. Any other goons going? Who opened for them?

What's up LA goon-bro :hfive:. We left before the encore, but Agalloch played pretty well.

Crimson Sox
Jan 16, 2008

Bromance
Saw Agalloch couple of weeks ago and they sounded amazing. Closed with Falling Snow
I might go see them again next month

Objurium
Aug 8, 2009

Houseplant posted:

What's up LA goon-bro :hfive:. We left before the encore, but Agalloch played pretty well.

Nice! The encore of all three 'Fortress is Burning' songs sequentially was awesome, I love the crazy noise set they always end it with.

Crimson Sox posted:

Saw Agalloch couple of weeks ago and they sounded amazing. Closed with Falling Snow
I might go see them again next month

Our show got a lot of Pale Folklore love, which was pretty drat rad.

Any of you interested in the rest of the pictures I shot from the set can check them out here.

Baron Von Ghoulosh
Dec 16, 2005

There was a time when I fed from golden chalices,
but now...

Now, I feed as
an old man pees.

The Clit Avoider posted:

Chapel's debut album is available on Invictus Prod. from this weekend.

I bought this (and and the Gospel of the Horns) directly after reading hearing this preview. It's unapologetic in your face sleazy and dirty black 'n roll. Easily one of the top releases of the year for me thus far. I thank you! Be sure to try out their track Alcoholocaust from the same album if this one appealed to anyone else.

Morbid Florist
Oct 22, 2002

and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

The Clit Avoider posted:

Chapel's debut album is available on Invictus Prod.

This is pretty cool. Nothing new but it's good poo poo. VERY Disfear-ish

nomapple
Apr 27, 2012

The Clit Avoider posted:

Nah. Not by a long shot.

Old Forest, Ghast, Adorior, White Medal are far superior. And historically, Darkness, Dead Christ are excellent too.

Wow, I never even realised Ghast were a UK band! :blush: Guess I'll have to check out those others!

For anyone wondering, I was at Bloodstock this weekend, and both Winterfylleth and Anaal Nathrakh were excellent. Nathrakh were by far the best band of the weekend in my opinion, I was on the barrier and absolutely delirious with terror and happiness at the same time. I was a total wreck by the end of their set, it was so good. I also happened to end up standing next to Mick and Duncan (Duncan does live bass for AN, and vocals for Fukpig for those wondering) whilst watching 'fylleth, which was really loving cool. I also got my LP of Hell is Empty and All the Devils are Here signed by all members of the band. From speaking to Mick, Duncan and Dave briefly at various points over the weekend, they all seem really cool, and I now love them even more than I did.

/fanboy rant over

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Objurium posted:

Nice! The encore of all three 'Fortress is Burning' songs sequentially was awesome, I love the crazy noise set they always end it with.
So loving jealous. I mentioned this earlier, but some dumbshit from the club started tearing down their mics before the encore, and then they started ushering everyone out like 10 minutes after that, when people were still trying to get poo poo signed and thank the band for finally coming out to Colorado.

The Clit Avoider
Aug 11, 2002

El Profesional

Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:

I bought this (and and the Gospel of the Horns) directly after reading hearing this preview. It's unapologetic in your face sleazy and dirty black 'n roll. Easily one of the top releases of the year for me thus far. I thank you! Be sure to try out their track Alcoholocaust from the same album if this one appealed to anyone else.

I'd recommend tracking down the 2010 Cult of Daath demo, you'll like it.

LittleBlackCloud
Mar 5, 2007
xXI love Plum JuiceXx
I'm in a black metally band called Ghede, and we finally finished our cassette. Maybe you will like it.

http://ghedehardcore.bandcamp.com/album/ix-xi-demo

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



So does anyone know if the guy in Kroda is a nazi? From what I'm reading, the band itself isn't NSBM, but that doesn't necessarily mean the guy in it isn't a nazi.

Cat Planet
Jun 26, 2010

:420: :catdrugs: :420:

22 Eargesplitten posted:

So does anyone know if the guy in Kroda is a nazi? From what I'm reading, the band itself isn't NSBM, but that doesn't necessarily mean the guy in it isn't a nazi.

Okay, a quick search of Russian Google says...

Eisenslav posted:

Q: This album is dedicated to people who paid with their lives to defend the Motherland against Turks and Tatars. Who, do you think, is a source of danger today?

A: Z.O.G. !!!

Also he complains about Jews and ends the interview with "White people, awaken!" I mean it's totally anecdotal, but I live in Russia and haven't met a single neo-pagan with progressive views on race :v: So yep.

Cat Planet fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Aug 15, 2012

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Welp. I figured, I knew he associated with NSBM bands. And his whole German fetish despite being from Ukraine.

I'll still listen to Kroda anyway, I just wanted to know whether or not I should try to buy a record.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Pick a Ukrainian band and they are most likely nazis.

And if it is not immediately obvious you can play Six Degrees of Nazism with them and usually only need one link.

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES

MrBling posted:

Pick a Ukrainian band and they are most likely nazis.

And if it is not immediately obvious you can play Six Degrees of Nazism with them and usually only need one link.

Yeah pretty much this. A lot of Ukrainian bands are really good and worth listening to but it's probably a bad idea to give them money.

nomapple
Apr 27, 2012

a false posted:

Yeah pretty much this. A lot of Ukrainian bands are really good and worth listening to but it's probably a bad idea to give them money.

Yeah, this a real shame. Walknut is a fantastic project (which I did actually give my money to before doing my research). It's a shame that some of the nationalist/right-wing BM sounds so good, as often they capture a sound not found in other BM (or not for me, anyway). I wish they'd put a new album out, regardless.

The Clit Avoider
Aug 11, 2002

El Profesional
About 90% of black metal bands have extremely conservative/right wing views. Some are borderline racist and some have been explicitly so over the years. An awful lot more have adopted slogans and icons to shock people, but also sympathise with the groups those symbols represent. Some of the names that regularly appear in magazines or even on television these days have practically got graveyards in their closets.

You have to remember that at it's core, black metal represents a totalitarian, misanthropic, misogynistic viewpoint that promotes elevation of the self, nature and to a certain extent nationalism, alongside contempt for everyone outside the sphere of influence. In other words, it's pretty much the perfect breeding ground for right wing nationalist hatred.

It's not exactly difficult for a band to work in racist connotations when they can semi-legitimately claim that anti-semitism is as valid a stance for a black metal band to take as anti-christianity or anti-islam - after all, they're all just abrahamic religions, aren't they? :rolleyes:

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



The Clit Avoider posted:

Some of the names that regularly appear in magazines or even on television these days have practically got graveyards in their closets.
You mean gravelands in their closets? :v:

Seriously, though, that makes me pretty sad. I guess it makes me glad for the Darkthrones and Immortals, who remember you're not actually supposed to take this stuff seriously.

saftsuse
Jul 9, 2007

Death in June
Anyone know what kind of ns-views Akitsa supports? I mean... They`re Canadian. What kind of NS-people spawns out of Canada, really? It seems he is kind of obsessed with the philosophers that has spoken for NS, rather than be out slaying arse himself.

I`m also curious about Furze, what does the name mean? I know I`ve read that in the political world it has something to do about NS, but what? No worries though, beacuse in the same interview Furze stated that they did not support national-socialists.. Might not be so wierd since things have escalated here in Norway, concerning NS-stuff, after the Anders Breivik-shootings/bombing.

I bet my name gets blacklisted in Norway just for mentioning his name here..

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
Comes from a 2001-dated interview on an Angelfire site so take it with a grain of salt, but:

quote:

Akitsa is not satanic nor pagan. I must say that we are proud to be from Québec and being French speaking. The Black Metal scene is now more than divided at my opinion. I think what is truly wrong right now is that Black Metal have been commercialised and that people associate subhumans like Mystic Circle, Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, etc with Black Metal. As for NSBM I think that this scene still spread hatred and Black Metal is all about that but I don't agree with their views.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid
I posted this on the metal thread, but realized it might belong here:

quote:

So, we interviewed Erik Danielsson, the singer of Watain. http://www.metalblast.net/2012/08/watain-interview/
He said:

quote:

“I totally encourage any kind of terrorist acts committed in the name of Watain, absolutely, that’s the way rock and roll works.”

Somehow, I don't think the Absurd t-shirt will still be an issue after this,

deadking
Apr 13, 2006

Hello? Charlemagne?!
The absolute worst terrorist act you could commit in the name of Watain is to make someone listen to a Watain record.

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
Hey BM thread, normally I just lurk here and pick up on the cool stuff you guys find but lately I've been really digging this band a friend of a friend is in, they are super cool dudes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cazrNI_iiI

deadking
Apr 13, 2006

Hello? Charlemagne?!

Moist von Lipwig posted:

Hey BM thread, normally I just lurk here and pick up on the cool stuff you guys find but lately I've been really digging this band a friend of a friend is in, they are super cool dudes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cazrNI_iiI

Thantifaxath is amazing, I can't wait for upcoming full length on Dark Descent Records.

nomapple
Apr 27, 2012

Non Serviam posted:

I posted this on the metal thread, but realized it might belong here:


Somehow, I don't think the Absurd t-shirt will still be an issue after this,
[/quote]


Oh dear god. Musically I love Watain, I think Lawless Darkness is a great album (the other ones have their moments, but LD is the best imo). I also think that Watain are great live. It is incredibly showy, and, at the size they are now, probably the closest thing we'll ever see to "stadium black metal", but I enjoy myself every time regardless. The songs are good, the stage show is good, and the band play with conviction. Everything they do is tight as hell.

But then Erik goes and says things like this :( We get it, you've come to tear down the sun and bring chaos to the world blah blah blah but claiming that terrorist attacks in the name of Watain are A-OK is really stupid. I doubt that anyone is going to take him up on this, and commit some sort of atrocity in the name of Watain, but still, it was a totally ridiculous thing to say. I find it harder and harder to respect them.

ON ANOTHER NOTE:

EvilMoJoJoJo posted:

(Cross-post from the metal thread)

Via a recommendation from Kim Kelly, I've recently fallen for Anicon. Just the one EP at the moment, from what I can tell, and they're so new they don't even have a metal-archives entry.

The EP will be released later today.

http://anicon.bandcamp.com/

For black metal fans - kind of WITTR-ish, a bit more up-tempo, great atmosphere.

I downloaded this the other day and can't stop listening to it. If you like the WITTR/Weakling sound then don't miss out on this, it's very good.

Has anyone got any early opinions on the new Ash Borer, Cold of Ages yet? So far I've listened to it twice, and I'm not totally sure. It's good, but it feels like there's something "missing" but I haven't put my finger on what that it yet. It's a very dense record, so I'm hoping it will grow on me.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

nomapple posted:

Oh dear god. Musically I love Watain, I think Lawless Darkness is a great album (the other ones have their moments, but LD is the best imo). I also think that Watain are great live. It is incredibly showy, and, at the size they are now, probably the closest thing we'll ever see to "stadium black metal", but I enjoy myself every time regardless. The songs are good, the stage show is good, and the band play with conviction. Everything they do is tight as hell.

But then Erik goes and says things like this :( We get it, you've come to tear down the sun and bring chaos to the world blah blah blah but claiming that terrorist attacks in the name of Watain are A-OK is really stupid. I doubt that anyone is going to take him up on this, and commit some sort of atrocity in the name of Watain, but still, it was a totally ridiculous thing to say. I find it harder and harder to respect them.

Having interviewed him and talked with him for quite a while I can say that, in my opinion, he is not pretending. He really believes this stuff. I think that he might be delusional, not because of his faith but because of the "possessions" he has seen and his communication (I'm guess both ways) with Gods.

Morbid Florist
Oct 22, 2002

and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
It almost never pays to look into the personal mind of people. Everyone thinks weird poo poo, or that everyone will get a joke.

Who cares, they're musicians, not geniuses. Especially in our genres of choice.

After losing all respect for Mustaine by way of his interviews I go out of my way to avoid hearing what these people think because as long as they make good music, their beliefs are irrelevant. Even if you're scared of supporting some NS band, your little $10 album purchase isn't going to put them over the top for starting the next nazi rise or anything. More than likely it's going to buy a bottle of cheap booze, so who gives a poo poo.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

deadking posted:

The absolute worst terrorist act you could commit in the name of Watain is to make someone listen to a Watain record.

But that's not ~*theistically satanic*~ enough :colbert:

Unrelatedly, new Ash Borer's out. I'm...not really sure how I feel about it. Can't help but think that it's about twenty minutes too long - I mean, even Hvis lyset tar oss is only what, forty-five minutes long? and I'd be hard-put to find a better example of long-form black metal. Here, the first track is solid but the rest are kind of meandering, which is unfortunate given how well they pulled off long songs on the s/t and the Fell Voices split. The ethereal female vocals are thankfully pretty sparse but still seem as superfluous here as they did when WITTR tried the same poo poo. Mostly I guess I need to listen to it a few more times, but I can't say anything on this album really popped out at me the way it did on the s/t. Maybe it's the higher-budget production.

I'll still try to catch them with Menace Ruine this fall, but I'm not really feeling the record at the moment.

nomapple
Apr 27, 2012

skasion posted:

Unrelatedly, new Ash Borer's out. I'm...not really sure how I feel about it. Can't help but think that it's about twenty minutes too long - I mean, even Hvis lyset tar oss is only what, forty-five minutes long? and I'd be hard-put to find a better example of long-form black metal. Here, the first track is solid but the rest are kind of meandering, which is unfortunate given how well they pulled off long songs on the s/t and the Fell Voices split. The ethereal female vocals are thankfully pretty sparse but still seem as superfluous here as they did when WITTR tried the same poo poo. Mostly I guess I need to listen to it a few more times, but I can't say anything on this album really popped out at me the way it did on the s/t. Maybe it's the higher-budget production.

I'll still try to catch them with Menace Ruine this fall, but I'm not really feeling the record at the moment.

RE: The production- I had the same thought, I liked the raw, almost punky feel that the s/t had. In this interview they claim that the punky sound was not intentional, and it sounds like they imply it is not the sound they wanted. I can't help but feel that Cold of Ages is cold and distant, and not in the good "cold otherworldly BM" way. I expect it will grow on me, I didn't think much of the split with Fell Voices at first, and now it is my favourite thing they've recorded to date. When that first song with the female vocals starts (track 3), I actually thought they'd basically gone and put a Worm Ouroboros song on the record, luckily, it does kick in though.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Morbid Florist posted:

Even if you're scared of supporting some NS band, your little $10 album purchase isn't going to put them over the top for starting the next nazi rise or anything. More than likely it's going to buy a bottle of cheap booze, so who gives a poo poo.

That's how the Beer Hall Putsch started, after Hitler's NSBM band got their big break.

Morbid Florist
Oct 22, 2002

and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
Oh so the brownshirts were just wearing merch they got at the booth, to go out and do street team publicity. No wonder so many bands use their imagery...I mean album covers

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Morbid Florist posted:

Even if you're scared of supporting some NS band, your little $10 album purchase isn't going to put them over the top for starting the next nazi rise or anything. More than likely it's going to buy a bottle of cheap booze, so who gives a poo poo.

Yeah, gently caress anyone who legitimately believes that kind of thing, but there's really nobody living in the first world that doesn't contribute money to really, really bad people. Some shitbird black metal frontman has astronomically less ability to harm anyone than Coke, FoxConn, or Monsanto, to name a few most of us will probably patronize today.

Not that I'm saying go give Watain money either, I'm sure not. Frankly it's more amusing that people get SUPER SERIOUS about black metal like that.

I Brake For MILFs
Jan 9, 2007

:syoon:


IRQ posted:

Frankly it's more amusing that people get SUPER SERIOUS about black metal like that.

It's funny you should say that, I think it might be one of the only genres people do get extremely (excessively?) serious about. I think it might be because of the "Extreme" nature of the music itself.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid
To me the amazing thing, and I mentioned it in the intro to the interview, is that Satanism gets a free pass. If you say you're a Christian people mock you, but if you say you believe in Satan as a deity, it's just "BADASS DUUUUDE!!!!".

It's the same kind of delusion, with the addition, in the case of Watain, that it seems to be a violent and dangerous ideology with no bright side.

On a side note, I'm currently arranging for an interview with Selim, from the Devil's Blood. I want to do something similar to what I did with Erik.

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Morbid Florist
Oct 22, 2002

and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
Taking a break from idiots in metal bands for a moment, fans of Darkspace will probably like this not-new side project one of them has called Sun Of The Blind. Still very black metal but not the chaos of Darkspace. It's a slower, kind of ambient version of Darkspace's sound but with a whispery growl for vocals rather than the shrieks.

There's no mistaking this came from a Darkspace member at all and I question if I'd like this kind of sound if it didn't have that touch of space vacuum cold to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u24qlJgseV4

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