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Mao posted:I'm looking for some advice from people who know a lot more about this than I do. Take the more cautious dentists approach. If he says your are out a month, stay out a month. Its not worth it to try to push the body healing. The dive shop should be able to let you finish all the pool/class work, and then do your open water cert dives at a later date with another class. I know its not a wisdom tooth, but i found this from DAN Diving and Wisdom Teeth DAN Divers Alert Network : Diving and Wisdom Teeth Here's what my diving dentist buddy, Dr. Lary Stein, has to say: "In general, you need about 2-4 weeks healing time following extractions. If these were difficult, horizontal impactions, with a lot of bone removal, I would use the more conservative time of 4 weeks. Really difficult extractions or unexpected surgical complications could mean up to about 6 weeks. If you have had complications such as "dry sockets" or sinus exposures then the healing time might have to be extended--your oral surgeon should discuss this with you. If you are still taking a prescription pain medication don't dive and, in fact, if you are still having significant pain for more than 3-4 days, have your dentist or oral surgeon check the site/sites for a dry socket. One theoretical concern is the lower extraction sites. These sites receive a great deal of force from the jaw. The forces are concentrated at the angle of the lower jaw. Clenching on the regulator tabs could lead to a broken jaw. This is not documented from the literature on diving but it is a documented complication during extraction. Again, speak to your surgeon. You may be still have some tenderness in the jaw joints from the surgery and holding the regulator may make this worse. Take it a day at a time and don't push yourself. If you are have pain, stop diving. I you cannot comfortably hold the regulator in your mouth I would recommend that you DON'T dive." My opinion is to play it safe and wait like the cautious dentist said.
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Yeah, even more than the clotting, jaw soreness is what would worry me. I'd be worried that biting down would cause a lot of jaw pain and make you not want to hold your regulator in. Definitely be cautious about it.
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 UPDATEOn advice from my dive shop, I called the 'Non Emergency Medical' hotline for the Diver's Alert Network, and here was the answer... For uncomplicated extractions, the major risk is infection based on sea or fresh water getting into the wound. There is a theoretical, though unlikely, possibility of a gas bubble forming in the socket and being unable to escape. Its possible, but the guy led me to believe that they don't have any of those on record. Therefore, you are supposed to wait until the socket has closed completely. Speak to your dentist about how long that should take. Get it checked, and once the socket is closed you should be good to go. Approximately a week or so for uncomplicated extractions that heal without issue. Of course, your mileage may vary, check with your dentist to see that its all good before taking any dives. Don't know if that counts as an official answer, but everyone I talk too speaks really highly of DAN so I just thought I'd share it.
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If you check out the "oldest goon" thread in GBS, Tokaii references being a scuba instructor. Anyway, turns out that he is PADI instructor Number 961, which is pretty loving awesome in my book (and even more so if that is interchangeable with his PADI diver number). I asked him to come over to this thread and hope he does!
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Aug 1, 2012 03:19
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Some pictures that I took Yesterday     
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Aug 2, 2012 06:42
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 Jesus that's close. 3 weeks until my AOW course, and an additional week of diving afterwards on Koh Tao. Can't wait!
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Aug 2, 2012 10:37
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MA-Horus posted:
Yeah, woah The bull sharks are back at Koh Tao! They disappeared a year or so ago, but they're back, apparently. Great success. I swap Australia for Thailand on Sunday. Yikes. Last I checked it happened in three weeks, not three days. See you soon.
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Aug 2, 2012 14:50
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Those shots are awesome!!
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Aug 2, 2012 15:50
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Heading out with Silent World in Key Largo for a wreck/reef dive in a few minutes. I'll be bringing my gopro and my still camera with me so I hope to come back with some cool photos and footage. I'll be diving the Vandenberg in Key West on Saturday too and snorkeling Christ of the Abyss tomorrow.
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Aug 2, 2012 17:32
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SlicerDicer posted:Some pictures that I took Yesterday I hate you so much.
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rockcity posted:Heading out with Silent World in Key Largo for a wreck/reef dive in a few minutes. I'll be bringing my gopro and my still camera with me so I hope to come back with some cool photos and footage. I'll be diving the Vandenberg in Key West on Saturday too and snorkeling Christ of the Abyss tomorrow. Christ of the Abyss should be nicknamed fire coral capital of the keys. Be careful its everywhere. Last time I was there watching people take pictures with the statue was like a fire coral lesson comedy hour. Also, if you haven't been to pennecamp be prepared for some incredible reefs.
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Aug 2, 2012 17:44
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Anyone have any experience diving in New England? I'm in New Hampshire and have always wanted to get certified, but don't know if it will be worth it...I don't know anyone who does it around here. I know there are dive shops, though.
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MA-Horus posted:
Whats sad is I was too busy looking through my viewfinder than actually witness with own eyes, the guy was about 4ft away at closest. Of course naturally they do not tend to get that close to bubblers (Open Circus Divers) as they do not like the sound of bubbles. In fact this shark turned around to come too me swimming away from open circuit sounds. For whatever reason the sharks hate the bubble sounds most times. Kaal posted:Those shots are awesome!! Thanks much. Finch! posted:Yeah, woah Galapagos sharks here are related to bulls and they are VERY bold just like the bulls. Hammerheads are calm generally but they are known to attack for whatever reason. Thus guy was about 10-12ft long I would estimate. Loving Africa Chaps posted:I hate you so much. Aww thanks for the complements 
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rockcity posted:Heading out with Silent World in Key Largo for a wreck/reef dive in a few minutes. I'll be bringing my gopro and my still camera with me so I hope to come back with some cool photos and footage. I'll be diving the Vandenberg in Key West on Saturday too and snorkeling Christ of the Abyss tomorrow. Also Slicer, I hate you too
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Bishop posted:
Not my fault you always dive in Florida :P
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We get hammerheads in the Keys but usually only when doing drift decos out in the gulf stream. Still it's been a while since I've seen one and god drat that's close. SlicerDicer posted:(Open Circus Divers) Bishop fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Aug 3, 2012 |
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SlicerDicer posted:Galapagos sharks here are related to bulls and they are VERY bold just like the bulls. Hammerheads are calm generally but they are known to attack for whatever reason. Thus guy was about 10-12ft long I would estimate. People have been diving with bull sharks on Koh Tao for over a decade and although there hasn't been any biting going on, it's not uncommon for them to bump in to divers. Presumably they're wondering WTF that poorly trimmed noisy weird looking fish is. Here, even in warm water, bull sharks are big trouble. Over there, they're practically docile.
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Bishop posted:This is the shop I do all of my diving with. I hope you had a good trip. I randomly checked their facebook just now and saw: "Great night dive on the Northern Light last night." Wow, just wow. Open ocean high current 200' deep wreck? gently caress it let's do a night dive. That owns so hard and i'm pretty jealous that I missed it. Thanks again for the suggestion, diving with them was great. I was really hoping to do a wreck with them, but we had a really new junior diver so we did two pretty shallow dives. One at the the elbow reef and one at the ledge near the reef and drifted in. Got to practice working with a reel and surface marker which was good. I have to give Chris a big thanks, we had a mishap and my gear fell over and my tank/reg hit the boat and there was a leak. My first stage now a leak, it looks like it's a bit misaligned, but we didn't really have time to troubleshoot it. Thankfully weren't far from shore and he turned the boat and around and grabbed me a spare reg set to borrow. Today we snorkeled in the Pennekamp reef today which was a lot of fun. Definitely saw a bunch of fire coral, way more jellyfish though. The second spot we hit was a drat sea of them. Thankfully I made it out un-stung. I wish I wore my dive skin instead of a suit and rash guard though just in case. We hit the statue on the third spot but weather turned to crap and the seas started to get choppy so it was a serious battle to swim out to it from the boat. By the time we got to it we were exhausted so I only had time to snap a couple of quick photos before we had to turn back for the boat. Tomorrow I'm doing a double dip on the Vandenberg which I'm really exited for. Far and away the biggest wreck I'll have seen. Can't wait to do some photos of it and hopefully get some cool gopro footage too.
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Finch! posted:People have been diving with bull sharks on Koh Tao for over a decade and although there hasn't been any biting going on, it's not uncommon for them to bump in to divers. Presumably they're wondering WTF that poorly trimmed noisy weird looking fish is. Growing up in Florida Keys I saw people do some pretty stupid spear fishing with bullsharks around including my mom.. But then again learned behavior and or other things can cause oddities. Like there is no way in hell our Tigers are like Bahamian Tigers.
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Finch! posted:The bull sharks are back at Koh Tao! They disappeared a year or so ago, but they're back, apparently. Great success. The talk on the island is that there's actually at least one grey reef shark and one bull shark. I saw the bull shark a couple days ago at Sail Rock - at the same spot/depth where we saw him last week. He's got two massive cobias and a bunch of remoras in his entourage. Can't wait to get out there again on Wednesday.
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I have always had a lot of trouble "clearing" my ears when diving. Despite trying "all the proper techniques" equalizing is always a major hazzle and my descent takes forever. I guess I have some lovely eustachian tubes. Last time I went diving I suffered from ear barotrauma on the first dive which ended that vacation's diving. That was probably my own fault since I had a slight cold (runny nose) the week before, but I was symptom free before the dive. I rarely manage to equalize properly even when flying. So I'm a little wary going on another expensive vacation explicitly for diving, when I'm not sure that my ears will equalize properly or that I have to struggle like crazy on every single descent. Does anyone have advice/success stories for divers with equalizing problems? Antihistamines, Decongestants or better equalizing techniques? Ear, nose and throat specialists?
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something_clever posted:
Usually it's recommended that you don't dive on decongestants because they can wear off while underwater and it may make it hard on your body to re-equalize as you surface. I'm not sure if an antihistamine would help or not. I take them daily for my allergies and I don't have problems when diving. I've never had major problems equalizing, but every now and then I'll have one ear that doesn't want to clear when I start to descend. Typically I just go back up a couple feet, wait about 20 seconds while shifting my jaw around then try to blow again and it will open up.
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I have a bit of a deviated septum and a bit of always congestion going on, and since I've started doing sinus rinses, it's helped a shitload. Is it both ears? In the class I learned that if you turn your head away from the side that you're having problems and clearing to stretch out the tubes, it helps. Since getting certified, I've been on like 15 dives so far... and I still have two months left of this work trip. I'm going to hate going back to nebraska. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ajt8zNyk14 Saw this guy at the end of my last dive. I used like 200 PSI trying to chase him down.
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TLG James posted:I have a bit of a deviated septum and a bit of always congestion going on, and since I've started doing sinus rinses, it's helped a shitload. Both ears, and this helps at times, at least better than the Valsalva maneuver. I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw9UNcp9lxM and http://staff.washington.edu/ekay/MEbaro.html and realized I have a lot to learn, and that I need to practice a lot more (even above water) to find out which combination of techniques works the best for me. I guess I just have to work harder than the average diver to clear my ears.
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itsmalarky posted:Anyone have any experience diving in New England? The water is going to be cold, but you should definitely suck it up and go! I was diving in Portsmouth, NH for work last summer and managed to squeeze in some for-fun dives at a state park. Awesome vis (at least for me) and lobsters everywhere. You should give it a shot
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itsmalarky posted:Anyone have any experience diving in New England? There is a very large active dive community in New Hampshire if you know where to look. While I can't spend for New Hampshire, I dive locally in Massachusetts every week. Lots of good diving out of Boston and in Cape Ann (Rockport, MA and Gloucester, MA). There is also good diving up in Maine, Nubble Light for example is a great shore dive. The biggest appeal to diving around New England is generally wreck diving and lobster hunting. New Hampshire does not allow diving for lobsters. Massachusetts does but you must be a local resident to get a license. Scallop diving can be done and does not require a license. Not sure where you are in New Hampshire but i've heard good things about Aquatic Escapes in Londonderry, NH. There is also Discovery Diving in Atkinson, NH.
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Finch! posted:Yeah, woah I'm supposed to be in Koh Tao around August 26th-31st if you're still around. Dove with about 12 bullsharks in Playa Del Carmen, Mexico. Great experience.
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Moar?      Ohhh Barracuda!  And now for some real feeling? This is how close we can get to hammerheads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcSV3ndJWvs
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rockcity posted:Thanks again for the suggestion, diving with them was great. I was really hoping to do a wreck with them, but we had a really new junior diver so we did two pretty shallow dives. One at the the elbow reef and one at the ledge near the reef and drifted in. Got to practice working with a reel and surface marker which was good. I have to give Chris a big thanks, we had a mishap and my gear fell over and my tank/reg hit the boat and there was a leak. My first stage now a leak, it looks like it's a bit misaligned, but we didn't really have time to troubleshoot it. Thankfully weren't far from shore and he turned the boat and around and grabbed me a spare reg set to borrow.  I'm glad you had a good time, sorry about your reg. Don't tell Chris I said this but he's had to turn the boat around because he forgot some of his own poo poo before OK to be really honest I forgot my backplate once (FINE, twice) and they had to turn the boat around for me too. I really like all the guys that work there. A lot of them are crazy tech divers but they take care of anybody. Plus you get better service when you're on a smaller boat than you would on one of the many cattle boats that run out of Key Largo. The Vandenberg is giant. I've only dove it once (I think around 110m runtime?) and I just lapped it once and did a bit of peaking into things. Do they still have the art instillation with pictures of ghosts hanging laundry and such on it? E: Slicer I put one of your pics in the OP but just so we're clear here, I still hate you 
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Bishop posted:
Thanks for the post! I know I am hoping it will be sharky tomorrow as I am not sure when I will dive out there again. Well I mean 6 weeks or so from now is what its looking like. I will have to go elsewhere I think?
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So i really want a set of the Apollo Bio Seals for my drysuit but gently caress paying 120 bucks for 3 pieces of molded rubber. Does anyone know of any alternatives for a reasonable price?
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Two weeks until I'm in Thailand and diving again! What do you guys dive with, vest or back inflate BCDs? I've heard good things about both.
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MA-Horus posted:Two weeks until I'm in Thailand and diving again! What do you guys dive with, vest or back inflate BCDs? I've heard good things about both. Back inflate all the way. They are just plain superior to vests. They can push you forward in the water floating on the surface, but if you properly weight yourself (put some weight on the rear), you'll be fine. To be honest, either one will work safely, just back inflate is more comfortable since the bladder is behind you and not around you. The real big thing you want is integrated weights into the bcd, since that is way way more comfortable than a weight belt if you can help it.
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Crunkjuice posted:Back inflate all the way. They are just plain superior to vests. Or just get a real wing, backplate etc. http://www.e-x-d.de/de/item/product/Donut-Wing-65_SCBS.html This is what I just got for my Mark 15.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG9otj0s_YU Been very sharky lately.
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Does anyone happen to know about diving on the Paracas Penisular in Central Peru? I'm in Paracas for the night and have heard there is great diving around here but all my gear is at home so I'd need to hire - on the off chance does anyone know of a local dive shop? I can't find anything on google! Cheers!
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MA-Horus posted:Two weeks until I'm in Thailand and diving again! What do you guys dive with, vest or back inflate BCDs? I've heard good things about both. I prefer Wing/Backplate but Zeagle Ranger is a nice back inflate BC.
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I live in Bermuda and just started my open diving course yesterday here. Just did some basic safety skills in the water off the beach yesterday but should be doing more interesting stuff today. Will be back in a bit to ask more about gear questions!
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Bishop posted:The Vandenberg is giant. I've only dove it once (I think around 110m runtime?) and I just lapped it once and did a bit of peaking into things. Do they still have the art instillation with pictures of ghosts hanging laundry and such on it? Yep, the art gallery is still there.  You can see a little more of it in the video I shot on my GoPro while I was down there. I threw together some of the cooler spots into a condensed version. I had the camera aimed a little high from my line of sight so the footage of the art isn't the best, but you can see some of them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCA9tvFpdmU&feature=plcp
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I actually think that there is a lot of merit to the standard jacket style BC. I use a backplate and wing for tech stuff and a normal jacket BC for anything else. I don't think trim is that important on a 30ft reef dive and having the air bladder in the front makes for a better life jacket if you find yourself at the surface in bad shape. I think anyone in a normal front inflate BC will be just fine unless they are looking to do overhead dives.
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Bishop posted:I actually think that there is a lot of merit to the standard jacket style BC. I use a backplate and wing for tech stuff and a normal jacket BC for anything else. I don't think trim is that important on a 30ft reef dive and having the air bladder in the front makes for a better life jacket if you find yourself at the surface in bad shape. Back inflates are TERRIBLE to do rescues with.. holding somebody from their face flying in the water is a nightmare. And yeah with Tech stuff you want wing.. There is TON's of weight back there..
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