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Gasoline
Jul 31, 2008
Oh great, can't even load multiplayer anymore. Loading times have gotten worse and worse since release and now it just times out after 5 minutes. Guess I'm done with this crap.

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thevoiceofdog
Jul 19, 2009

Terminally ambivalent.
Okay playing London is bad enough, but doing it with lag bad enough to get killed after taking cover behind a safe wall and recovering your shields? No, I don't think so game. What was the squad goal again? Just one extraction in London?

\/ That guy either needs a new microphone or he needs to sit on the other side of the drat room from it, holy poo poo.

thevoiceofdog fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Aug 11, 2012

Elotana
Dec 12, 2003

and i'm putting it all on the goddamn expense account

Fight Club Sandwich posted:

FYI the game isn't hard enough to force you to use optimized setups but Stardusks' guides and builds aren't very good.
I can't even watch Stardusk's videos because the guy's voice is so droning and no cluster grenades seriously?

Also lol at him turning up his nose at the GPS because it carries classes while painstakingly shooting everything with a Talon

Diephoon
Aug 24, 2003

LOL

Nap Ghost


There was another one at the bottom of the stairs too. :shepface:

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

Gasoline posted:

Oh great, can't even load multiplayer anymore. Loading times have gotten worse and worse since release and now it just times out after 5 minutes. Guess I'm done with this crap.

Yeah this is the second time that I'm unable to connect to the server following a patch. This is bullshit.

E: Evidentally, the way to get around the server connection issue is still to have a friend invite you into a game or just try to join a game someone on your friends' list is in.


Just quit a mission in which we couldn't finish a wave because all abilities and weapons for players and the one Nemesis left at the end stopped doing any damage. This game is bad.

tadashi fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Aug 11, 2012

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal
How to Farm Platinum on Firebase Glacier

I've been doing a fair bit of Platinum farming lately and though I'd write up a quick guide. This is intended as a beginners guide so I'm using a very specific team in this guide that is fairly easy to put together, easy to run, and very effective. There are lots of other team combos that can work well though.

The Setup: You’re going to want to set it to Firebase Glacier and Platinum obviously. As for the enemy I would recommend Cerberus. Some people prefer Geth because it delays the arrival of Banshees until after wave 6. I find that Banshees are easy to deal with though and a pair of Primes stagger-locking you will quickly turn the objective waves into a complete clusterfuck. The objectives are the hard part so go with Cerberus.

The Team: To farm platinum you’ll want 2 Ex-Cerberus Adepts/Vanguards (I’m just going to call these Smashers), 1 Asari Justicar and a Batarian Sentinel. The Smasher should spec Smash for with both force & damage options and radius; extra armor damage would be nice but hitting and priming more enemies at longer range is better. The Justicar should have Reave and Bubble at 6. Area Reave is the only crucial evolution but warp bubble is strongly recommended. The Batarian should max blade armor with both durability options (you won’t need the cooldown reduction) and max shockwave with force & damage, detonation and recharge speed. The rest of the build is up to you but if you’re only using the Batarian for farming skip Submission Net; it’s a good power but you won’t need it for farming.

Weapons: Everyone who has a Piranha should be using one. Even at level 1 it is stupid good. For mods run with smart choke and extended barrel and load it with AP ammo and a Rail Amp. If you’re low on AP ammo use warp ammo but switch the extended barrel for a shredder mod if you do. The Batarian and Justicar will be using their guns the most so if you can try to have the people with the highest level Piranhas play those classes. If people are Piranha less it’s not a game breaker just use the highest damage gun you have that keeps you over +170% cooldown.

The Strategy: Everyone runs to the room in the middle of the map. The Batarian should hit the ammo crate on the way since your racial passive lets them carry more than their starting ammo. When the wave starts the Justicar should run out a place the bubble so that it covers the top of the stairs. The Smashers will blindly smash in the direction of the stairs. You can get clues as to the enemy’s actual positions by listing for the sound of successful smashes, looking for targeting reticules to appear on enemies on the stairs, and looking for shadows rendered on the wrong side of the wall (this will happen a lot). The Batarian and Justicar will focus on enemies coming in from the labs. The Batarian should spam shockwave and fire his Piranha during cooldowns. If there is nothing coming from the lab then use the side of the archway as cover and help with the stairs, but remember to keep checking back at the door. The Justicar can use the side of the archway for cover and should keep priming with Reave or Pull. If there is nothing coming from the lab you can pop out to quickly Reave and thing in the stairwell. She should also be recasting her bubble whenever there is a lull so you can avoid it going down at a bad time. If the bubble does go down when it is not safe to recast it she should just set it up in the entrance to the room. The Batarian and Justicar will have the benefit of being able to see into the hallway so talk to your smashers to help them smash better.

The only time anyone should leave the room is to restock ammo between waves or for objectives. If you run out of ammo just use your powers until either the wave is finished or you really need your gun (then pop an ammo pack). You should try to save 2 ammo packs for waves 8 and 9. If the room gets overrun fire a missile. If you get dropped don’t medigel right away it should be easy for a teammate to pick you up. If you have more than one teammate down and enemies at the door you should pop the gel.

No matter what faction you choose you’re going to have to deal with banshees. When they arrive they will get in the room. Don’t panic just keep hitting them with biotics and Piranhas and they’ll go down quickly enough. If they grab someone just keep blasting and they’ll drop them. Even two Banshees in the room is not a missile crisis unless there are other guys coming in as well. If you have pyros actually making it into the room then you’ve been overrun and should missile. Don’t be afraid to use an Ops Survival Pack to avoid being dropped by a warp at a bad time.

Objectives: These usually aren’t that bad and you can solve a lot of problems with missiles. It’s a small map to you can often get retrieval and escorts done quickly before many enemies even spawn. Try to work as a team to get these objectives done as quickly as possible and use missiles if large groups of enemies are blocking your progress. If you get bogged down it will turn into a clusterfuck very quickly. If you get downed use a gel so you don’t slow down the team.

Hacks can be brutal but you can get through them, use cover and coordinate your power usage so that you’re getting combos. If the hack site has enemies when you arrive missile them and start the hack. If you get overrun use a missile.

Assassinations in wave 3 and 6 are straightforward, just hold the room and let them come to you. Keep an eye on the timer though if you get below 30 seconds use a missile. This will usually happen when the first target is an Atlas. In wave 10 holding the room gets a lot tougher and you will likely be overrun unless you missile the targets as soon as you can get a shot without straying from the room.

If you get devices remember that you don’t have an infiltrator so you need to do these as a team. Some of the devices are in locations with good cover or without enemies and will be easy enough to do. If there is a device in an enemy covered area then use a missile to clear it. For tricky devices split into teams. Have two teammates hold off enemies away from the device while one teammate disables it while the fourth teammate stands guard with a missile out just in case enemies show up.

reagan
Apr 29, 2008

by Lowtax
Lago/Ortho speaks the truth. I farmed Platinum with him and a few other guys in the thread earlier in the week. Sure, I was the lowly Batarian Sentinel, but it was my first time playing Platinum and it wasn't painful at all.

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?
Isn't there anyone playing on Origin? Please, let me play along with you!

same origin name

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal

HoveringCheesecake posted:

lowly Batarian Sentinel

That's actually my preferred class in this setup.

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails
The best way to farm platinum is to play it normally vs Reapers as a Vorcha soldier and use the reegar carbine on marauders/banshee barrier and the damage + armor damage specced flamer on everything else.

:colbert:

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

zxqv8 posted:

Isn't there anyone playing on Origin? Please, let me play along with you!

same origin name
Interesting, you seem to have vanished from my friends list, but when I look at your profile (using search) it still says we're friends.
Goddamnit EA, get your poo poo together.

Kitschy Bitch
Jun 21, 2004
the mad whacker
Was farming Glacier/Cerb/Plat earlier with two destroyers, a demolisher, and me switching between a salarian eng, or a N7 shadow. Full extract 4/5 times. :colbert:

Mind you, the Justicar/Smashdept setup makes it much eaiser. Can also do it with tech burst spam, did it well with a geth eng, shadow, demolisher and something else.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Elotana posted:

I can't even watch Stardusk's videos because the guy's voice is so droning and no cluster grenades seriously?

Also lol at him turning up his nose at the GPS because it carries classes while painstakingly shooting everything with a Talon

The Talon isn't such a bad choice for a Drellguard and has the advantage of giving you 200% cooldowns even at level 1 with ULM equipped. Really though there's no reason why any Vanguard shouldn't be rolling with a Piranha even after the nerfs, unless you're doing Sniper Asari or something. His reasoning for taking Pull over Cluster Grenades is wonky too, but if you look at the video I think he's playing on Silver which might explain a few things.

radintorov
Feb 18, 2011

zxqv8 posted:

Isn't there anyone playing on Origin? Please, let me play along with you!

same origin name
Sent you a friend request, although I only recently starting playing ME3MP, and not that much given my work schedule and a couple of other games.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
Personally, I really like the Geth Infiltrator and the N7 Fury in Glacier farming on Platinum. Geth Infiltrator makes any theoretical point-capping objectives a bit easier to swallow and well, he can't contribute to the constant blue explosions, but Prox Mine is still a pretty badass power.

TacticalGranny
Feb 6, 2008

I'm surprised they haven't RP'd the friends list fuckups into the mission flavor text while they are working on a fix.

"Heavy enemy activity is causing interference with civilian comm channels and personal devices. Military comms have been switched to backup encryption algorithms and secondary frequencies and are unaffected."

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal

ainsoph posted:

Was farming Glacier/Cerb/Plat earlier with two destroyers, a demolisher, and me switching between a salarian eng, or a N7 shadow. Full extract 4/5 times. :colbert:

Mind you, the Justicar/Smashdept setup makes it much eaiser. Can also do it with tech burst spam, did it well with a geth eng, shadow, demolisher and something else.

Yeah that's why I say in the first paragraph that there's lots of other setups that work. The main problem with the 2 Demolisher and a Destroyer setup is that it requires 3 people with a fairly new rare classes and is more dependent on having access specific high level rare guns and gear. It's not a big deal if your smasher only has a predator but you really need good guns on the Destroyer.

If you're already ruining Platinum with a demolisher then the guide wasn't for you and you don't need it anyways. It's intended to help anyone relatively new to the game, so they can start getting poo poo unlocked faster.

exquisite tea posted:

The Talon isn't such a bad choice for a Drellguard and has the advantage of giving you 200% cooldowns even at level 1 with ULM equipped. Really though there's no reason why any Vanguard shouldn't be rolling with a Piranha even after the nerfs, unless you're doing Sniper Asari or something. His reasoning for taking Pull over Cluster Grenades is wonky too, but if you look at the video I think he's playing on Silver which might explain a few things.

The Talon is the best gun in the game* and is good on every class. That's why he's stupid for saying that the Geth Shotgun is overpowered and carries classes while using a Talon.

*I'm seriously tempted to write up a long spergy post on this point so I can just start linking to it whenever the Talon gets mentioned.

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!
*opens PSP*

Oh I see an Ultra-Rare!

...

Particle Rifle II

:suicide:

Burning Mustache
Sep 4, 2006

Zaeed got stories.
Kasumi got loot.
All I got was a hole in my suit.
Man, what the gently caress.
Clicking on Multiplayer in the main menu and exiting a lobby will make the game load for like a full two and a half minutes now.
Wanted to get some Plat farming on but I'm sure as hell not gonna do that if I have to leave lobbies with players using lovely classes / loadouts and spend 15 minutes over the course of a session just staring at loading screens for that.

At least I got the full extraction on London for the weekend. What a lovely, lovely map indeed.

Burning Mustache fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Aug 11, 2012

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



Burning Mustache posted:

Man, what the gently caress.
Clicking on Multiplayer in the main menu and exiting a lobby will make the game load for like a full two and a half minutes now.
Wanted to get some Plat farming on but I'm sure as hell not gonna do that if I have to leave lobbies with players using lovely classes / loadouts and spend 15 minutes over the course of an evening just staring at loading screens for that.

At least I got the full extraction on London for the weekend. What a lovely, lovely map indeed.

There's no way that the event will be successful this weekend if people waste thousands of collective hours staring at a loading screen. Ridiculous.

London is my least-favorite map, based on one of my least-favorite segments of the game. If they somehow worked planetary scanning into the loading screen they would have completed the trifecta of un-fun things.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Was there supposed to be a splash screen for this weekend's objective? I did a full clear of London early this morning but I don't know if it fell within the timeframe and I'd like to avoid doing London as much as possible.

Mike From Nowhere
Jan 31, 2007

I guess there has to be one thing I just can't help, Lois.

TacticalGranny posted:

I'm surprised they haven't RP'd the friends list fuckups into the mission flavor text while they are working on a fix.

"Heavy enemy activity is causing interference with civilian comm channels and personal devices. Military comms have been switched to backup encryption algorithms and secondary frequencies and are unaffected."

It would be amazing if every time something got buffed or nerfed or there was some outage of some kind, they had an in-lore reason for it.

"Recent advances in TAO overlay barriers will now allow those trained in their use to be more efficient in the use of omni-tools and biotic amps."

"We have learnt that the recent upgrades to the munitions minifacturers on the N7 Piranha shotgun have an unfortunate tendency to violently discharge all four thousand rounds whilst stored less than a foot from the user's cloaca. We are rolling back all schematics to the original configuration as a result."

Burning Mustache
Sep 4, 2006

Zaeed got stories.
Kasumi got loot.
All I got was a hole in my suit.

Jet Jaguar posted:

London is my least-favorite map, based on one of my least-favorite segments of the game.

I fully agree.

But I will also admit that I never did mind the planet scanning and even thought that it was a pretty neat idea in principle :unsmith:

exquisite tea posted:

Was there supposed to be a splash screen for this weekend's objective? I did a full clear of London early this morning but I don't know if it fell within the timeframe and I'd like to avoid doing London as much as possible.

There definitely is a splash screen, and I actually suspect that it might be the reason for the long rear end loading times because it shows up for me every time I exit a lobby, whereas the previous splash screens only showed up once.

Also, if you've played a game this morning you should be good as the operation started at some point yesterday.

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal
All is normal on 360, also the event started 28 hours ago so you should be good.

Gatac
Apr 22, 2008

Fifty Cent's next biopic.
Welp, consider me a convert to the 6/6/4/4/6 Justicar build. I still don't use Pull a lot, but it does have its uses. Together with getting smarter about where I place my biotic sphere, I can now produce biotic explosions a lot more effectively. This also begins my painful weaning process from putting assault rifles on the Justicar - yes, the class is somewhat set up for them, but I found myself shooting too much and neglecting the Always Be Reaving rule. Instead I'm now rocking a Hurricane with Heat Sink and HV Barrel - 190% cooldown, good enough to deal with anything that gets too close for comfort.

Also, getting on the "gently caress London" bandwagon. The balcony is not as much of a deathtrap as I thought at first, but any objective that forces you down onto the cluttered courtyard below can rapidly ruin your day.

Talky
Mar 26, 2010
So is there a good way to try and get upgraded versions of the guns you already have (like, any particular equipment packs I should be buying or something) or is it really just a matter of buying packs until you get lucky? I'm trying to get my Mattock from II up to like IX or X if it makes a diffrence!

DrWhom
Jul 16, 2010

Razin posted:

So is there a good way to try and get upgraded versions of the guns you already have (like, any particular equipment packs I should be buying or something) or is it really just a matter of buying packs until you get lucky? I'm trying to get my Mattock from II up to like IX or X if it makes a diffrence!

There's no way to target a specific item, only the rarity. Because the Mattock is an uncommon, Veteran packs will be your best bet.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
I dunno, I really like London and the only time it's annoying is when you're doing platinum and they stick a hack objective in the middle of the drat map. Otherwise, there's a ton of defensible pockets all over the map and it's big with lots of cover.

Doc Dee
Feb 15, 2012

THANKS FOR MAKING ME SPEND MONEY, T

Razin posted:

So is there a good way to try and get upgraded versions of the guns you already have (like, any particular equipment packs I should be buying or something) or is it really just a matter of buying packs until you get lucky? I'm trying to get my Mattock from II up to like IX or X if it makes a diffrence!

Spam Veteran Packs to max out your Uncommons fastest.

EDIT: Beat me to it :v:

Vietnamwees
May 8, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
I honestly don't think London is that bad either, especially since I try to spread out before the objective rounds start. Depending on the exact objective, it can easily turn into a clusterfuck though.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
London sucks because it's a dark map and the stupid RED VEINS AND poo poo when you take health damage make it impossible to see anything that isn't right in front of you.

Condor sucks for mostly the same reason.

Synastren
Nov 8, 2005

Bad at Starcraft 2.
Better at psychology.
Psychology Megathread




Schubalts posted:

London sucks because it's a dark map and the stupid RED VEINS AND poo poo when you take health damage make it impossible to see anything that isn't right in front of you.

Condor sucks for mostly the same reason.

Also because Condor is a loving terrible map, and London is slightly less so.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
Condor isn't so terrible for Reapers, but it's pretty abominable for Cerberus and especially Geth. London is a shitshow with every faction, but holy god, it just jumps to another echelon of awful when you have Reapers. You're constantly being pincered by Banshees and Brutes and there's pretty much nowhere on that map that's safe from Ravagers.

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

Elotana posted:

I can't even watch Stardusk's videos because the guy's voice is so droning and no cluster grenades seriously?

Also lol at him turning up his nose at the GPS because it carries classes while painstakingly shooting everything with a Talon

I dunno, I liked his build. I just really really hate Cluster Grenades. They are unreliable--they tend to go off in random directions, all around but not touching my target(s)--they're only effective against health enemies or those primed for BE's (but why not just Reave?), and they're finite. Sure I could take Grenade Capacity gear but there are much better gears (Stronghold Package, Shield Booster, Mental Focuser) for the Drellguard to use.

I can't hate the Drellguard, he's just so charming! Clusterfuck grenades, however, are stupid. :colbert:

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal
No cluster grenades are good, they're just sucky until you get the hang of aiming them.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Cluster grenades are awesome if you just chuck them into a spawn on a map like Glacier.

Exodee
Mar 30, 2011

SciFiDownBeat posted:

I dunno, I liked his build. I just really really hate Cluster Grenades. They are unreliable--they tend to go off in random directions, all around but not touching my target(s)--they're only effective against health enemies or those primed for BE's (but why not just Reave?), and they're finite.
Cluster Grenades are far more reliable if you take the extra shrapnel evolution at rank 6. With it, there will always be at least one grenade that follows a predictable trajectory, making it great for triggering BE's. Although I guess they're a bit less desirable on the Drellguard since they only have Pull to prime with. Still, they're one of the best grenades you can have, so why not learn to use 'em?

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
So I was feeling a bit cheeky and decided to try power-levelling my Level 10 Gethfiltrator by playing some Gold. I loaded up with tons of equipment to make myself more survivable, but the pub lobbies still weren't having it. So I said "gently caress it" and created a private solo game of White/Cerberus/Gold. For once I needed levels more than I needed Medigel so I thought I could get a few levels if I just survive up to Wave 5 or so.

So alright, I do a very drawn out hit-and-run Wave 1, then Wave 2 rolls around and some guy who isn't on my friends list shows up. Then two other people appear shortly afterwards. Proceeded to a very smooth and uneventful full extraction, so I'm certainly not complaining.

The lobby definitely showed up as private after the match. What gives? lol Origin.

Batham
Jun 19, 2010

Cluster bombing from B-52s is very, very accurate. The bombs are guaranteed to always hit the ground.
Spamming the quick play button until I get into a game in progress is my way to level my low level chars (lvl +10). I most of the time even manage to top ranking anyway, so I feel no shame doing it.

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Doc Dee
Feb 15, 2012

THANKS FOR MAKING ME SPEND MONEY, T

Mr Dog posted:

So I was feeling a bit cheeky and decided to try power-levelling my Level 10 Gethfiltrator by playing some Gold. I loaded up with tons of equipment to make myself more survivable, but the pub lobbies still weren't having it. So I said "gently caress it" and created a private solo game of White/Cerberus/Gold. For once I needed levels more than I needed Medigel so I thought I could get a few levels if I just survive up to Wave 5 or so.

So alright, I do a very drawn out hit-and-run Wave 1, then Wave 2 rolls around and some guy who isn't on my friends list shows up. Then two other people appear shortly afterwards. Proceeded to a very smooth and uneventful full extraction, so I'm certainly not complaining.

The lobby definitely showed up as private after the match. What gives? lol Origin.

Maybe the matchmaking in ME3 is just THAT hosed UP, that even Public/Private doesn't matter.

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