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ufarn posted:Scrolling - period. I just got one. Its seriously an over-blown issue. People are making it out to be like its unusable. Coming off my 2008 Blackbook, its buttery smooth (running Mountain Lion out of the box). Only thing I can think of is some people are getting defective machines, or the 2011 were like OMG SUPER-SMOOTH SCROLLING, but I am just not seeing it.
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ufarn posted:I think the 11" is way, way too small, and the keyboard feels too weird. Why not go for the bigger screen? It's not like the 13" weighs anything. It's the same loving keyboard as the 17" except for the slightly thinner function keys. The 11" is quite a bit smaller than the 13" when you're using it on a small table, or throwing it in a bag. The bad thing about the 11" (other than the 1366x768 screen resolution) is the screen is so short, you're always looking DOWN at the keyboard when you're using it. That's what I miss about 4:3 laptops, not having to look down at the drat table because of this widescreen HD crap.
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Aug 13, 2012 14:45
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I'm probably going to lose £100 or so but I am quite happy with my decision to buy an Air for a year and then to hope that the Haswell chips really are as great as people are predicting. Also FWIW I bought the 13" and unless you're after super portability that's what I'd recommend. The extra size really isn't that noticeable in terms of bulk but the extra pixels and useable space are fantastic. I went for the 8GB RAM, 256GB option with the i7 upgrade.
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Bonobos posted:I just got one. Its seriously an over-blown issue. People are making it out to be like its unusable. Coming off my 2008 Blackbook, its buttery smooth (running Mountain Lion out of the box). I continue to notice zero scrolling issues on my rMBP. I run it in the 1680x1050 scaled mode. I didn't see any issues with Lion and I'm on ML now and everything seems ok. The one bug I had seems to have been fixed by ML (graphics corruption after waking from sleep, I posted about it before).
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Aug 13, 2012 15:36
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I messed around with the 11 and 13 inch in the apple store and I'm going with the 13 inch, the 11 inch screen just feels weird to use. I'm planning to get the 128 and upgrading the RAM to 8 as I've never come close to using 100gb on a laptop and RAM is nice for buttery smoothness, but is there a consensus on the 256 with i7 being the sweetspot with more value? I don't plan to do any gaming or audio/video editing I just want a magicalTM experience that'll last with new OS upgrades and quality apps.
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Aug 13, 2012 15:48
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Dante posted:I messed around with the 11 and 13 inch in the apple store and I'm going with the 13 inch, the 11 inch screen just feels weird to use. I'm planning to get the 128 and upgrading the RAM to 8 as I've never come close to using 100gb on a laptop and RAM is nice for buttery smoothness, but is there a consensus on the 256 with i7 being the sweetspot with more value? I don't plan to do any gaming or audio/video editing I just want a magicalTM experience that'll last with new OS upgrades and quality apps. I have a base 13" from earlier this year and it's a pleasure to use. Never have any performance issues. It even makes Office applications run well enough to almost trick me into thinking they aren't bloated, unoptimized piles of poo poo.
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Aug 13, 2012 15:54
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Dante posted:I messed around with the 11 and 13 inch in the apple store and I'm going with the 13 inch, the 11 inch screen just feels weird to use. I'm planning to get the 128 and upgrading the RAM to 8 as I've never come close to using 100gb on a laptop and RAM is nice for buttery smoothness, but is there a consensus on the 256 with i7 being the sweetspot with more value? I don't plan to do any gaming or audio/video editing I just want a magicalTM experience that'll last with new OS upgrades and quality apps. If you look through my post history ITT you should find some decent benchmark comparisons. But IIRC the i7 is only a minimal upgrade (unless you're buying the 11" which you're not) and if you're not going to go over 100GB I wouldn't worry about that either. I'm maxing it out partly because I want to and I do fairly intensive stuff but also for resale. E - The RAM upgrade should be a given though.
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Aug 13, 2012 15:56
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a bad poster yall posted:I'm maxing it out partly because I want to and I do fairly intensive stuff but also for resale. I think it's like 8-15% better performance during the most optimum of situations, it's not that big of a deal if it's not your only workstation. Doing it for resale isn't worth it either because you generally only get like 30-40% of the cost (if even) back-- somebody buying a year old laptop generally isn't willing to pay a large premium for a slight speed upgrade.
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Shmoogy posted:I think it's like 8-15% better performance during the most optimum of situations, it's not that big of a deal if it's not your only workstation. Hmm, that's a worryingly valid point. I'm hoping to appeal to people who see larger numbers and aren't going to do the research. I also bought it with 20% off so I shouldn't lose too much if anything on what I paid for it. Also it's going to be my main machine, at least when I'm at home. I won't be taking it to work except for when I travel to other offices.
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Aug 13, 2012 16:11
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a bad poster yall posted:I just bought a 2012 Air with discount with the intention of selling next year for a MBPr That's not a bad idea..not sure how much I'l l get back for my 2010 Air -- I imagine the upgrade speedwise will make it worth it. Though i've heard the Air's have a worse resale value compared to the Macbook Pros. Not sure how true that is.
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Aug 13, 2012 19:07
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About how much is my late 2008 aluminum Macbook worth? It has the 160GB hdd, 4GB Ram, and is running Lion. It's in great shape and runs fine, with the battery still getting about 2 hours per charge (despite having 1400 charge cycles). I'm seeing prices on eBay range from $200-$550, and some website said they'd pay me $230 to buy it from me. I'm going to upgrade to either a maxed out MBA or a rMBP in the next few months which is another tough choice; I can get some sweet deals on either of them I just don't know what I want or how much I want to spend.
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a bad poster yall posted:I just bought a 2012 Air with discount with the intention of selling next year for a MBPr
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yoohoo posted:About how much is my late 2008 aluminum Macbook worth? It has the 160GB hdd, 4GB Ram, and is running Lion. It's in great shape and runs fine, with the battery still getting about 2 hours per charge (despite having 1400 charge cycles). I'm seeing prices on eBay range from $200-$550, and some website said they'd pay me $230 to buy it from me. I'm going to upgrade to either a maxed out MBA or a rMBP in the next few months which is another tough choice; I can get some sweet deals on either of them I just don't know what I want or how much I want to spend. Not getting any bites on mine with about 500 on here or CL. I might try eBay. A white MacBook in equal shape will go for 400 and is older, so that's where I based my pricing on. Figure the 2011 MBP's go for $800-$900, the C2D 2010's will go for $700...
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Aug 13, 2012 20:09
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Can I reliably use the Turbo Boost clock speed when calculating if i can run certain software? Also, if anyone happens to know, how does Civ V function under either Parallels or natively on the 2012 Macbook Air 13?
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Aug 13, 2012 21:08
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Sprat Sandwich posted:The 13" 2012 Air owns super hard. And even if you don't like it you can return it. But you won't. Seconded.
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Aug 13, 2012 21:15
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ufarn posted:I think the 11" is way, way too small, and the keyboard feels too weird. Why not go for the bigger screen? It's not like the 13" weighs anything. After owning a 2012 11" MBA for a few weeks, I couldn't disagree more. The 13" actually now feels monstrously big to me. Even though their footprint is very close - the 11" is so much more portable. Of course, like everything, it depends on your needs and situation.
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Aug 13, 2012 22:03
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Lexicon posted:After owning a 2012 11" MBA for a few weeks, I couldn't disagree more. The 13" actually now feels monstrously big to me. Even though their footprint is very close - the 11" is so much more portable. I agree with this statement. I owned the 2011 13" MBA for almost a year, than sold it before the Ivy Bridge update. Just got a new 2012 11" MBA and I'm loving the form factor a lot more. It depends on the situation though, I'm able to dock my Macbook Air up to my Dell IPS Monitor along with using my own keyboard and mouse when I'm at home. The size displacement from the 13" to the 11" is noticeable when lugging it around campus. It takes up less space in my backpack.
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Aug 13, 2012 22:08
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Rabid Snake posted:I agree with this statement. I owned the 2011 13" MBA for almost a year, than sold it before the Ivy Bridge update. Just got a new 2012 11" MBA and I'm loving the form factor a lot more. It depends on the situation though, I'm able to dock my Macbook Air up to my Dell IPS Monitor along with using my own keyboard and mouse when I'm at home. Yeah. Also, I think "is a fan of the 11 incher" correlate strongly with "is an owner of multiple computers". For a primary, single machine, I'd recommend most people get the 13".
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Aug 13, 2012 23:27
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I'm still loving my 2012 MBA 13" 4G, 128G. I highly suggest it for anyone still on the fence.
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Aug 14, 2012 01:20
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I spent about an hour at the Apple Store comparing the 11 and 13 before deciding on the 13. It will be my only computer so that was definitely part of it. but I also read stories of how the 11 gets much hotter since you basically have the same power in a smaller package. I also appreciate the extra battery life on the 13. And the SD card slot is very handy.
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Aug 14, 2012 01:22
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I just got an Apple Cinema Display with a mini-display port cable. How do I plug it in to my GTX 680 with full sized display port, HDMI or DVI These are the connectors on my GTX 680: DVI Output : Yes x 1 (DVI-I), Yes x 1 (DVI-D) HDMI Output : Yes x 1 Display Port : Yes x 1 (Regular DP) The apple display is Mini-DisplayPort. I'd like to run at the full resolution, 2560-by-1440. What connectors do I need to buy to do this?
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Aug 14, 2012 02:00
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Bit the bullet: 13" Macbook Air, 2.0 i7, 8 RAM, 256 GB. The wait's going to be unbearable, but I'll use my time wisely by cleaning out my wallet to make it easier for the moths. 
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Aug 14, 2012 02:00
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Need some feedback for those with the 11" MBA. I've been trying to decide for a week straight now and although I like the novelty size of it, I have 2 issues with the 11": 1) Do you feel that the size of the palm rest area is a problem? I know you're not supposed to rest your palms while typing but I often do this while slouching. The center of my palms rest right on the edge while I was testing it out in the store. 2) Is the 5-hour battery life a problem while on the go? The size and weight is ideal, but what's the point of a small laptop if you need to bring the charger around all the time? It would be my main computer and I didn't have an issue with the display at the store. Windows can be fullscreened to the size of normal windows on the 13" and it even appeared to be brighter/looked slightly more rich in color than the 13" Airs.
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Xergiez posted:Windows can be fullscreened to the size of normal windows on the 13" and it even appeared to be brighter/looked slightly more rich in color than the 13" Airs. To answer your questions. 1. I have big hands and the palm rest area never really bothered me. Than again, I usually only type 5-10 page essays a week max. The palm rest on my old 2011 MBA was more comfortable though. 2. The 5-hour battery (realistically around 3-4 hours) is the biggest disadvantage of the 11" compared to the 13". As long as you don't do any heavy CPU work on the go (VMs, encoding videos .. etc) you should be fine. If you need the laptop to last a whole work day, than I'd recommend the 13" MBA. During the Sandy Bridge release of the Macbook Airs, I went with the 13" just because of the battery life.
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Also, remember the 5-hour battery life is absolute best case for the 11". Real-world can be as short as three hours. Never noticed a problem with the wrist rest being shorter.
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Aardark posted:What instances are those? All I've heard is Facebook scrolling, what else makes it not worth buying? A bit of a lag scrolling heavy websites. Installed Apps haven't been an issue for me at all (edit: except the Kindle App - it has 4-5 seconds lag in the book list for some reason, even in the one not showing covers). And even those websites are about what I am used to in Windows. It might grate you if coming from a powerful Mac, but even from a powerful Windows PC it's not a downgrade in smoothness. Only some Apps have been updated for Retina yet, that's the bigger downside. I use a special version of Firefox and Thunderbird which are optimized for Retina, but they still have a few issues too. Non-optimized Apps aren't unusable, but they look ugly, so you tend to avoid them. But as time goes by more and more programs are optimized (really optimized, not the bullshit Parallels paddled as "Retina-ready"). Decius fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Aug 14, 2012 |
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Aug 14, 2012 08:38
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JosephStalinVEVO posted:I just got an Apple Cinema Display with a mini-display port cable. A displayport to mini displayport cable will do it.
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Just bought a new laptop to replace my 2006 Macbook, which is causing more and more problems and hanging quite often. I don't really blame it since it's well over 6 years old and it's been awesome to me. So just ordered an i5 Macbook Air with 256gb SSD and 8 gigs of ram, I can't wait for it to arrive. Since I've not done this since well before Time Machine existed... how easy is it to transfer all my settings and apps from my current laptop running 10.7 to a new one running 10.8? I've got full Time Machine backups of everything but I obviously don't want it to overwrite and downgrade the operating system.
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sweek0 posted:Just bought a new laptop to replace my 2006 Macbook, which is causing more and more problems and hanging quite often. I don't really blame it since it's well over 6 years old and it's been awesome to me. You can just use the migration tool to transfer your files from the time machine backup. It won't downgrade you and it should grab everything. The only thing I would leave unchecked would be the transfer apps ticker. Just redownload/reinstall what you need and if you have to, you can just copy apps by hand from the mounted TM image. I just went through this process last week when I did a clean install of mountain lion.
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I transferred apps when I did mine, and it worked out just fine. My biggest bug was that right-clicking in the omnibar was crashing Safari; turned out to just be nothing giving it a chance to redo the menu after some TextWrangler changes. So the migration works well, it's just a little cranky; it will sort itself out given like three reboots.
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Glenn posted:Bit the bullet: 13" Macbook Air, 2.0 i7, 8 RAM, 256 GB. It's the best computer ever. You'll flip. Has anyone tried the TB->FW adapter yet? I haven't gotten much of a nibble on my Firewire Apogee Duet, so I may just keep it and try the adapter. Store.apple reviews seem positive, and Apogee support thinks it'll work, but they haven't tried it yet.
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I noticed that there was a Thunderbolt -> Ethernet adapter from Apple. Is there something similar to this but includes another thunderbolt out so I can daisy chain a monitor?
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Rabid Snake posted:I noticed that there was a Thunderbolt -> Ethernet adapter from Apple. Is there something similar to this but includes another thunderbolt out so I can daisy chain a monitor? Although you have a better chance of seeing a Unicorn than a Thunderbolt dock, Matrox announced one with DVI ouput: http://www.matrox.com/docking_station/en/ds1/press/ 
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Bob Morales posted:Although you have a better chance of seeing a Unicorn than a Thunderbolt dock, Matrox announced one with DVI ouput: Wait what? Wasn't this thing covered earlier in this thread? http://www.belkin.com/thunderbolt/ Or are you thinking of something else?
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My gorgeous 13" MBA arrived today. I need some kind of fast removable storage for it, would I be better served by a SD card or a USB3 flash drive?
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THC posted:My gorgeous 13" MBA arrived today. I need some kind of fast removable storage for it, would I be better served by a SD card or a USB3 flash drive? All comes down to how much storage you need. Some SD cards can hit 128GB now. If you need more than that, and you want to remove the possibility of losing and fragmenting your data, go with a drive.
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I was thinking more in the neighbourhood of 32GB. Mostly I am concerned about performance.
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THC posted:My gorgeous 13" MBA arrived today. I need some kind of fast removable storage for it, would I be better served by a SD card or a USB3 flash drive? SD cards are slow even compared to USB 2.0 flash drives
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