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Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:As another old metalhead, I find myself doing this regularly. Imagine stumbling across a gem like this when all that is being played on the radio or MTV is New Kids on the Block or Janet Jackson. We had Headbanger's Ball on MTV  I grew up in Atlanta, home to the Georgia Tech radio station and its awesome Wreckage metal show, which has been on as long as I can remember being into metal (mid-80's). Still, my exposure was fairly limited because I was a little Metallica/Anthrax/Iron Maiden fanboy and rarely went outside the mainstream lines. I would have had my mind blown multiple times had I taken the time to explore a little beyond my narrow confines. It took a bit of effort tracking down obscurer poo poo before the internet. me your dad fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Aug 16, 2012 |
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Autotheism is pretty awesome in my opinion, reminds me of the shift made by The Ocean for Heliocentric/Anthropocentric and I haven't been able to stop listening to those two albums since their release. Autotheism will probably tide me over until the new Neurosis or Ocean albums drop this year. I guess in general I found what The Faceless could do with their sound and texture to be more interesting than their speed and technicality, I'm always looking for something with that extra spice so this fit the bill nicely. I guess I'll just ask then, is there anything else along these lines that people could point me to? I've dipped my toe in BTBAM and am an avid Isis fan, so something around those five bands (Faceless, Ocean, Neurosis, Isis, BTBAM) would be what I'm after.
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Aug 16, 2012 20:37
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vanov posted:I guess I'll just ask then, is there anything else along these lines that people could point me to? I've dipped my toe in BTBAM and am an avid Isis fan, so something around those five bands (Faceless, Ocean, Neurosis, Isis, BTBAM) would be what I'm after. Cult of Luna or even some of Jesu's catalog may float your boat if you're that avid a fan of Isis (R.I.P.).
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vanov posted:Autotheism is pretty awesome in my opinion, reminds me of the shift made by The Ocean for Heliocentric/Anthropocentric and I haven't been able to stop listening to those two albums since their release. Autotheism will probably tide me over until the new Neurosis or Ocean albums drop this year. I guess in general I found what The Faceless could do with their sound and texture to be more interesting than their speed and technicality, I'm always looking for something with that extra spice so this fit the bill nicely. I guess I'll just ask then, is there anything else along these lines that people could point me to? I've dipped my toe in BTBAM and am an avid Isis fan, so something around those five bands (Faceless, Ocean, Neurosis, Isis, BTBAM) would be what I'm after. Rosetta, Intronaut
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I don't know why I neglected to mention Rosetta and Intronaut, but I'll definitely be giving Cult of Luna and Jesu a spin; I've heard their names too many times and haven't gotten around to it. To share with the thread, Hacride - To Walk Among Them. Fans of the bands I and others have named should dig these guys. vv Will do, thanks! vanov fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Aug 16, 2012 |
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Aug 16, 2012 21:04
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vanov posted:I've dipped my toe in BTBAM and am an avid Isis fan, so something around those five bands (Faceless, Ocean, Neurosis, Isis, BTBAM) would be what I'm after. If These Trees Could Talk. Ignore the stupid, long, pretentious name. They rule.
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ITTCT are in fact awesome and reminded me of my love of Red Sparowes, so thank you for that! I guess there isn't an avant-garde thread, but I need more stuff that sounds like Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and The Book of Knots. This'll be my last request for a while, my collection just needs an injection of new poo poo.
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me your dad posted:We had Headbanger's Ball on MTV Where I grew up we didn't have MTV. Rural Norway, no cable TV services extending to the area I lived in, one single broadcast TV station and two national radio channels, end of story. One of the radio channels had a one-hour weekly show which played hard rock and metal; I used to tape this show and listen to it several times in order to find new stuff I'd like. quote:It took a bit of effort tracking down obscurer poo poo before the internet. Yeah. Word-of-mouth via friends (there was no metal scene either out in the sticks, or much of any other kind of music scene for that matter; I had maybe two or three friends that listened to metal), or pure dumb luck. One weekly hour on the radio, as mentioned. Also you could go in to town (which was not a big town) and browse through the albums at the record shop in hopes of finding something that looked and sounded cool (there was no specialty metal or rock shop but the generic record shops would sometimes carry stuff like Metallica or even Slayer, and any shop worth your business would make special orders for you once you knew what you wanted). While you were there you could pick up a magazine or two and read some album reviews and whatnot. These days, feh, you can learn the name of a random band during breakfast and be halfway through their discography by lunchtime. 
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Very amusing Watain interview but I really have problems believing this guy is for real..
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SilverSmoke posted:Very amusing Watain interview but I really have problems believing this guy is for real.. I think it's gently caress'in hilarious! It's not so much that Erik takes himself so very serious, but rather the fact that the media hangs on and over analyzes every word he says. Who gives a poo poo what type of toppings he orders on his pizza? He's playing most of interviewers for pure fools to their faces and they don't even have enough common sense to know it. Honestly, I think he's more offended to the fact that the band covering themselves in blood makes more of an impact on an audience than the great musical craftsmanship of the songs. I'd be sarcastic too if I had to do 40+ interviews a day and the first thing each one of them asked was, "Duurrrrr, what does the blood mean?" I mean, he's an artist. A great graphic artist as well! What's the point if you have to explain every single thing you do.
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vanov posted:ITTCT are in fact awesome and reminded me of my love of Red Sparowes, so thank you for that! I only make this recommendation because I kind of got into Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum at the same time but you might try listening to Estradasphere but more specifically a solo project their drummer did called The Deserts of Träun. You really need to hear the whole album but here's some songs from it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTfwJ_4SGek&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azg5Y_cI31g Estradasphere borders on being a bit music nerdy with their technicality and genre hoping but The Deserts of Träun really holds up well if you like some metal in your weirdness. As far as Estradasphere goes I would give these albums a try: Buck Fever, Passion for Life and Quadropus. You definitely have to listen to full albums to get a sense of what they do. Here's more info Eestradasphere: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estradasphere Edit: oh, I forgot to mention that a lot of this stuff is instrumental so...yeah. UFOTacoMan fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Aug 17, 2012 |
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Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:I think it's gently caress'in hilarious! It's not so much that Erik takes himself so very serious, but rather the fact that the media hangs on and over analyzes every word he says. Who gives a poo poo what type of toppings he orders on his pizza? He's playing most of interviewers for pure fools to their faces and they don't even have enough common sense to know it. Honestly, I think he's more offended to the fact that the band covering themselves in blood makes more of an impact on an audience than the great musical craftsmanship of the songs. I'd be sarcastic too if I had to do 40+ interviews a day and the first thing each one of them asked was, "Duurrrrr, what does the blood mean?" I mean, he's an artist. A great graphic artist as well! What's the point if you have to explain every single thing you do. Erik is entirely serious. He is an artist of course (both in terms of recording and visual), but that's entirely separate from what is basically his religious views. If he wanted to dismiss people entirely he'd just tell them to watch the drat DVD and walk off rather than waste his time answering questions that are of no interest to him. I'm surprised how many people seem offended that an artist who proudly stands behind a banner of "gently caress all human life" actually believes in that sentiment. He's got a sense of the pantomime for sure (see the comment over the funeral pyre in years past), but he does genuinely believe in what he preaches.
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The Clit Avoider posted:Erik is entirely serious. He is an artist of course (both in terms of recording and visual), but that's entirely separate from what is basically his religious views. If he wanted to dismiss people entirely he'd just tell them to watch the drat DVD and walk off rather than waste his time answering questions that are of no interest to him. A deply religious person following his beliefs through to their logical conclusion. How ... novel.
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New announcements for MDF: EXODUS BENEDICTION (UK) - Exclusive US show! IHSAHN (Norway) - Exclusive US show! INIQUITY (Denmark) - Exclusive US show! GLORIOR BELLI - Exclusive US show! IHSAHN!
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At this rate I am running out of boxers to jizz in. Seriously. I have been itching to see Iniquity ever since I discovered them when "Grime" came out, and now I will finally get my chance. gently caress yeah.
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vanov posted:ITTCT are in fact awesome and reminded me of my love of Red Sparowes, so thank you for that! There really isn't anything that sounds like Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. You're just not going to find it. That said, there is plenty of quality weird/heavy music out there. Sebkha Chott (France): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiSF_6hXJZ4 miRthkon (California): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0LfStA_Jk8 You might like Ihsahn's wife's project Peccatum, too. Not even close to as weird, but it's not the kind of thing that'd normally show up in this thread. Also Ephel Duath if you're not already aware of them...The Painter's Palette is a fantastic album from start to finish.
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The Clit Avoider posted:Erik is entirely serious. He is an artist of course (both in terms of recording and visual), but that's entirely separate from what is basically his religious views. If he wanted to dismiss people entirely he'd just tell them to watch the drat DVD and walk off rather than waste his time answering questions that are of no interest to him. I didn't get the vibe that the questions were of no interest to him. As a matter of fact, ours was the only interview that went for over 6 or 7 minutes, and probably the only one that didn't ask something silly about the blood and carcasses. If you're going to make a living out of Satanism, expect questions about Satanism that are not of an rear end-kissing nature. Finally, believing crazy violent poo poo and going through with it is not something that he should be proud of nor should you defend (maybe I misunderstood you though). There's nothing positive of having a poisonous idea and carrying on with it until the end. Unless, of course, you are just waiting to see him go down in a blaze of glory.- Redrum and Coke fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Aug 18, 2012 |
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Optimum Gulps posted:There really isn't anything that sounds like Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. You're just not going to find it. That said, there is plenty of quality weird/heavy music out there. Based on those links, I think you're completely correct on SGM/Book of Knots being sounds unto themselves  The first two remind me of Unexpect and Diablo Swing Orchestra a little too much for my liking, though I definitely dig Peccatum and I'm going to have to give Emperor a try for that reason alone. We'll see about Ephel Duath. I do appreciate the effort though, I'm realizing now how daunting that must have been.
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I always dreamed I'd be alive to post this album artwork. 1. When Time Fades Away 2. Sons of Winter and Stars I Rain of Stars II Surrounded by Darkness III Journey Inside a Dream IV Sons of Winter and Stars 3. Land of Snow and Sorrow 4. Darkness and Frost 5. Time
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Optimum Gulps posted:You might like Ihsahn's wife's project Peccatum, too. Not even close to as weird, but it's not the kind of thing that'd normally show up in this thread. This is fantastic. I need more of this.
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Stoat posted:I always dreamed I'd be alive to post this album artwork.
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Misogynist posted:I'm excited for this, but to keep things in perspective, Chinese Democracy was finished recording in 2000 before they pulled a Nathan Explosion and threw out the whole album. Duke Nukem Forever, et al. At least the album art is terrible, that's usually a good sign when it comes to metal.
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Non Serviam posted:I didn't get the vibe that the questions were of no interest to him. As a matter of fact, ours was the only interview that went for over 6 or 7 minutes, and probably the only one that didn't ask something silly about the blood and carcasses. I never said the questions were of no interest to him - I was saying he wouldn't have bothered answering them at all if they weren't, and as such his answers are 100% serious, not sarcastic replies for his own amusement. I thought my reply was very clear on that. I wasn't really defending his viewpoint either, just expressing my surprise that anyone would be shocked that a member of a counter-culture, misanthropic, anti-humanist band would expressly support actions that run directly in concurrence with that mentality.
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Everyone with the Bathory boners... this is *not* me bagging Varg's contribution to metal, or the quality of his music at all. All great stuff, but it needs to be remembered half of the reason for the praise heaped on Bathory is the the *context* in which the music was made. There was nothing of it's ilk before. This is one of the biggest reasons Bathory love has been perpetuated through the ranks of black metal fans. It's a sub-cultural acknowledgement of the roots of the whole genre, and thus calling out "how loving good is Bathory" is like saying "yeah man, I was there from the start." If we just altered time, and someone already else covered the same ground Bathory did when black metal was emerging, and Bathory's stuff was released in 2012 with some slicker production, I can almost guarantee that no one would pay even half as much attention. This is the sadness of the black metal paradigm as a whole. Anyone who denies the existence of the "older and more obscure is somehow of more musical/artistic merit" cliche within black metal is not only kidding themselves, but is also the biggest kind of poser--the exact kind of poser they are hoping to avoid being. This is coming from a long-term black metal fan. I almost got an Abbath-mid-crabwalk tattoo on me once, before a good mate slapped sense into me. Serious.
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This just in, things only have meaning because of context.
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Yeah, somehow I don't imagine that anti-war folk songs of the 1960s or the slavery-critical writings of Mark Twain would have had the same oomph if they were released today either.
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Bent Willy posted:Everyone with the Bathory boners... this is *not* me bagging Varg's contribution to metal, or the quality of his music at all. All great stuff, but it needs to be remembered half of the reason for the praise heaped on Bathory is the the *context* in which the music was made. There was nothing of it's ilk before. This is one of the biggest reasons Bathory love has been perpetuated through the ranks of black metal fans. It's a sub-cultural acknowledgement of the roots of the whole genre, and thus calling out "how loving good is Bathory" is like saying "yeah man, I was there from the start." What does Varg have to do with Bathory?
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That's not the point he's making. It's fine to not like the pioneers of a genre. I'm sure Sad Wings of Destiny was the poo poo when it came out, but I can't rock out to it because I grew up with metal that was heavier, faster, and just all-around better in every department that makes metal awesome. I can respect the Model T for breaking new ground, but I'm not gonna drive around in one and act like it handles as well as a modern car. e:fb
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That is a terrible point to be making though. Sad Wings of Destiny is still a fantastic album. Well written music is good no matter how old it is. If you don't like it, that's fine, that's just personal taste but I don't really hold with your assertion that metal now is better than metal then.
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Well yeah, it is all a matter of personal taste, and I got the feeling that that was his main point.Bent Willy posted:Anyone who denies the existence of the "older and more obscure is somehow of more musical/artistic merit" cliche within black metal is not only kidding themselves, but is also the biggest kind of poser--the exact kind of poser they are hoping to avoid being.
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MrBling posted:What does Varg have to do with Bathory? That's what I was wondering. Do you mean Quorthon?
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Swear to God, I meant Burzum. I was thinking Burzum and writing Bathory. Bathory, Burzum, they both start with B, god drat it thats what I meant I was tired I'm sorry I'M SORRY 
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Bent Willy posted:Swear to God, I meant Burzum. I was thinking Burzum and writing Bathory. Bathory, Burzum, they both start with B, god drat it thats what I meant I was tired I'm sorry I'M SORRY So THAT'S what happened to Dead...
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Optimum Gulps posted:Also Ephel Duath if you're not already aware of them...The Painter's Palette is a fantastic album from start to finish. Just wanted to requote this because I got a chance to listen to it and it's the goddamned truth, this will soothe my SGM/BoK itch quite well and I thank you for that.
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vanov posted:Just wanted to requote this because I got a chance to listen to it and it's the goddamned truth, this will soothe my SGM/BoK itch quite well and I thank you for that. The Painter's Palette doesn't sound anything like SGM either, but it's another one of those absolutely unique albums. I believe the lineup at the time was a bunch of prog/metalheads in their early 20s and a 48-year-old jazz drumming instructor. Glad you like it!
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BSchlang posted:It's fine to not like the pioneers of a genre. I'm sure Sad Wings of Destiny was the poo poo when it came out, but I can't rock out to it because I grew up with metal that was heavier, faster, and just all-around better in every department that makes metal awesome. Sad Wings of Destiny is loving awesome, I dont care how fast or heavy other bands can be.
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I still think if Hvist Lyset Tar Oss was a 2012 release I'd love it. Same with Hammerheart or The Return. Besides why should we just forget about the context? These guys broke new ground! I've always been impressed mostly by how young many of the trailblazers were. The first four Burzum albums were recorded when Varg was 19! Bathory S/T and The Return when Quorthon was 18-19.
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AgentJotun posted:I've always been impressed mostly by how young many of the trailblazers were. The first four Burzum albums were recorded when Varg was 19! Bathory S/T and The Return when Quorthon was 18-19. This is what always get me, thinking loving teenagers were writing this kind of ground breaking music. When I think to what I was into when I was 18 I cringe.
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Big Willy Style posted:This is what always get me, thinking loving teenagers were writing this kind of ground breaking music. When I think to what I was into when I was 18 I cringe. I always think of this when I listen to Decapitated's "Winds of Creation", which is a loving great album created by a bunch of teenagers.
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That track is fantastic and it's already one of my favorites of theirs. I'm surprised I'm not seeing more hype for the new album here. RIITIIR can't come fast enough. It also has some kickass cover art: 
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