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Crows Turn Off
Jan 7, 2008


God drat, the Fury owns. Playing really offensively is the way to go. I was kicking so much rear end.

Of course, the game timed out during Wave 11 so none of it mattered, but still.

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Krampus Grewcock
Aug 26, 2010

Gruss vom Krampus!

Crows Turn Off posted:

God drat, the Fury owns. Playing really offensively is the way to go. I was kicking so much rear end.



I carried 3 gold games today playing the Fury. I just discovered the awesome combination of the Fury and Acolyte. Normally I'd avoid the gun like the plague, but when it can strip the shielding off a phantom (or two) in one shot, I can one-hit the bitch with the throw/annihilation field. I just wish I could run a Talon and Acolyte as the same.

Tremors
Aug 16, 2006

What happened to the legendary Chris Redfield, huh? What happened to you?!
Tonight my slayer became a floating sword for a wave before the game locked up.

GulMadred
Oct 20, 2005

I don't understand how you can be so mistaken.

Tremors posted:

Tonight my slayer became a floating sword for a wave before the game locked up.
I've seen something similar on the Fury. For me, it occurred when a Brute charge caused my character to stagger midway through a teleport-dodge animation. I played as a floating gun for a while, but things went back to normal after I performed another dodge move. There were no apparent changes in detection/aggro, damage resistance, hitbox size/location, or movement speed; it was purely a visual glitch.

The novelty wore off pretty quickly. It turns out that I rely heavily on watching my character's arms in order to properly time ability usage and reloads.



It's too bad that this trick wouldn't work with the Justicar or Drell classes; it might be amusing to join a bronze game and roleplay as a poltergeist who levitates everything in sight while making "woooooOOOoooo" noises.

Pumpking
Oct 27, 2007

Who is number 1?
I call this bug fury first person mode. It happens nearly every time I play her now. Its actually kinda fun for a while to have a new perspective, and you can fix it by dodging or getting a shield boost from a destroyers pylon.

I had a much worse bug yesterday as a batarian soldier. I was playing gold cerberus on London and the only enemies I could see were engineers and atlases. Even worse I couldnt take cover, if I pressed space to crouch behind a wall I would immediately pop up again. Needless to say I got my poo poo pushed in by phantoms which apparently didn't exist as far as my game was concerned.

TheDK
Jun 5, 2009
Will be playing some bronze for a while to level up some classes, hit me up if interested.

Origin: teh_DK

edit:
well I will be trying to play, if I can finish a single match without this happening:

TheDK fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Aug 17, 2012

highmodulus
Feb 16, 2011

Let's go crazy Broadway style!
The new Co-op TF2 update is outstanding. The differences between Bioware and Valve are pretty big.

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Why is this thread on page 4? You should all be celebrating my Hurricane V! Yeeeeeehaw! *shoots wildly into the air with more damage and less weight*

Goes well with my Eagle V B)

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


highmodulus posted:

The new Co-op TF2 update is outstanding. The differences between Bioware and Valve are pretty big.

All the same, I don't think it's necessarily fair to compare a standalone MP series that has existed for half a decade to what is basically a bonus feature in an SP game.

Burning Mustache
Sep 4, 2006

Zaeed got stories.
Kasumi got loot.
All I got was a hole in my suit.

That DICK! posted:

Why is this thread on page 4? You should all be celebrating my Hurricane V! Yeeeeeehaw! *makes loud fart noises*

Fixed that.

That DICK! posted:

Goes well with my Eagle V B)

Oh.

Ooohh.

My condolences :(

Adrian Owlsley
Aug 6, 2010

This galaxy only has room for one karaoke champ.

highmodulus posted:

The new Co-op TF2 update is outstanding. The differences between Bioware and Valve are pretty big.

I'm not so sure, playing it actually reminded me how good mass effect is compared to most of these coop games. In mann vs machine the game spawns ~50 enemies who walk forward in a swarm and your goal is to output as much damage as possible to kill them before they reach your base. That's pretty much tower defense without the towers and it's quite boring in my opinion as you're essentially constantly firing while backpedaling. Mass effect is a lot more action packed and intricate and the arpg elements like combos richen it quite a bit. Granted ME3 is good because it's an excellent SP game you can play with your friends and not because they did anything special with the coop, but an excellent sp game is a good basis for a coop game.

ShortThug
Dec 26, 2004

Yay!

That DICK! posted:

Why is this thread on page 4? You should all be celebrating my Hurricane V! Yeeeeeehaw! *shoots wildly into the air with more damage and less weight*

Goes well with my Eagle V B)

Pfft, I've had a Hurricane VI since like 2 operations ago.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Hmm, I haven't gotten my commendation pack yet. What's the "contact customer support" cutoff for these things?

Elotana
Dec 12, 2003

and i'm putting it all on the goddamn expense account
I probably put about 1500 hours into TF2, it's a good game but it's just too crowded and chaotic for my taste these days. 24 players is a lot as it is and then they started putting out nothing but payload maps which funnel all the spam into one corridor forever (picture a Platinum drone escort objective that spans the length of the map).

Felinoid
Mar 8, 2009

Marginally better than Shepard's dancing. 2/10

Bruceski posted:

Hmm, I haven't gotten my commendation pack yet. What's the "contact customer support" cutoff for these things?

About the same time they last for. BSN uses its new counter programming for that too, along with a link right next to the counter. Handy!

TheDK
Jun 5, 2009
Have not been able to finish a single match today without disconnecting. I am stupid for trying and more upset than I should be.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Felinoid posted:

About the same time they last for. BSN uses its new counter programming for that too, along with a link right next to the counter. Handy!

I meant the time after which I can assume they're done passing them out and I actually got skipped.

Felinoid
Mar 8, 2009

Marginally better than Shepard's dancing. 2/10

Bruceski posted:

I meant the time after which I can assume they're done passing them out and I actually got skipped.

Oh, that. Noone fuckin' knows. v:v:v I usually wait for Thursday when it comes to that, so Friday's kind of a sure bet. Go yell at politely ask a dude in India.

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal
If you haven't got it by now you should probably call support. I've got all of mine by Thursday at the very latest.

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

After at least 51 Gold character cards (I think I got a few for maxed out characters before Bioware changed that), I just got my first Asari Adept.

RNG :argh:

Gordon Shumway
Jan 21, 2008

So I'm in a Platinum game right now, and some pubbie I'm in with is somehow still doing the Missile Launcher glitch. Didn't they patch that right out of the game?

Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


Gordon Shumway posted:

So I'm in a Platinum game right now, and some pubbie I'm in with is somehow still doing the Missile Launcher glitch. Didn't they patch that right out of the game?

They just made the missiles launch faster, so in theory you can still pull it off if you're fast enough. Unless you're on PC.

Zuriel147
May 1, 2009
Well, I just got the piranha, but it's too late to go into a game and use it. I do have a couple of total newbie questions though, mainly because I played adept all the way through single player and the first character I played in multi was a human adept.

1. What's a good build for the turian sentinel?

I was going to go with everything but tech armour, since it sounds like having warp and overload could be handy for high level jolly co-op. However, tech bursts seem to be a bit finickity. Leading to...

2. What techs lead to a tech burst, or more clearly, what creates a tech burst most reliably?

I guess the question is begging for someone to say "Google it", but having played the adept, I find that in a rush (and I'm playing Xbox, so it might be the less precise aiming), shockwave is more reliable for setting off the BE, plus it can travel through walls. So what are the reliable ones, and am I likely to get many tech bursts with overload?

3. I have noticed that my turian doesn't do the "combat roll" you usually get with a double tap of the action button. Is this a glitch or is it just because the class is a bit heavier?

I am still only just mastering bronze level, but have got to the point where I am not too bothered about going up against a banshee or brute solo with my adept at least. Warp and shockwave combo is brutal. I might promote him though and rebuild. Would you guys recommend this? I was thinking maybe just having one point in singularity and maxing the rest. It seems good for crowd control initially, but if I can warp and then shockwave, it has a similar knockdown effect (or even just shockwave itself).

Elotana
Dec 12, 2003

and i'm putting it all on the goddamn expense account
If you're just learning the Turian Sentinel I'd go with 6/6/6/4/4 and you can play with that for a while to learn it. Tech Armor is great for toughness and power synergy and also makes a nice stagger button for Phantoms/Hunters. Overload is a very reliable AoE tech burster (it primes everyone in the chain). Not dodging is your HP/Tech Armor toughness tradeoff

Adrian Owlsley
Aug 6, 2010

This galaxy only has room for one karaoke champ.
Tech bursts are easy, all it takes is hitting an overloaded target with almost any ability. Overload + warp will do it, just make sure you have a fast enough cooldown and are close enough for the warp to hit before the effect runs out. Also, if you took the overload chain, only the initial target of the overload gets primed for a tech burst, anyone who gets hit in the chain isn't.

mania
Sep 9, 2004

Bruceski posted:

I meant the time after which I can assume they're done passing them out and I actually got skipped.

There's a new tool on the BSN, which will tell you if the pack got awarded or if you got skipped over. If you don't have your pack, you can file a report and it'll tell you to wait 48hrs for a response. But after filling it in the morning, I bugged customer service later in the night and got my pack right away on the first day anyway. Beats waiting around until friday to see if the pack will turn up or not.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Perfectly Cromulent posted:

After at least 51 Gold character cards (I think I got a few for maxed out characters before Bioware changed that), I just got my first Asari Adept.

RNG :argh:

So if you max the customization options for a character it will finally stop giving you that one? For some reason the game has bombarded me with Drell Adept, and while it did get me to play the class and find that it's sort of fun, I just want a Quarian Engineer or a robot. Or an N7 class. :(

Will I have a chance of getting the regular characters I want with SPs and PSPs or will that only give me N7s? I definitely want to try some of those out but it would be nice to also have a chance at getting the normal characters I want in the same item.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Gestalt Intellect posted:

So if you max the customization options for a character it will finally stop giving you that one? For some reason the game has bombarded me with Drell Adept, and while it did get me to play the class and find that it's sort of fun, I just want a Quarian Engineer or a robot. Or an N7 class. :(

Will I have a chance of getting the regular characters I want with SPs and PSPs or will that only give me N7s? I definitely want to try some of those out but it would be nice to also have a chance at getting the normal characters I want in the same item.

As of the Earth DLC, character cards will stop appearing once you've maxed out all their customization options, although normal Human cards will pop up every now and then for some class XP. You can unlock any characters from packs. Most are Gold (Rare) and a few are Silver (Uncommon). PSPs give you the best opportunity for unlocking new characters.

Doc Dee
Feb 15, 2012

THANKS FOR MAKING ME SPEND MONEY, T

exquisite tea posted:

although normal Human cards will pop up every now and then for some class XP.

They should do something about these NOT popping up if you have the class level maxed out. I'd rather get a random consumable I'll almost likely never use than a Human Female Adept on my PSPs. I'M NOT GONNA INCREASE MY DICK WAVING LEVEL FOR YOU, BIOWARE, AT LEAST NOT UNTIL I GET THE ABSOLUTE WORST ENDING IN THE SINGLEPLAYER

Banjodark
Jun 10, 2001

Beautiful and good
Punishing with his kindness
Jacob is perfect

Zuriel147 posted:


3. I have noticed that my turian doesn't do the "combat roll" you usually get with a double tap of the action button. Is this a glitch or is it just because the class is a bit heavier?

they lack a roll, just like the krogan.

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?
I can't appear to make the N7 Fury work properly. When I go to try to make things explode, I get shot and die. When I stand back to try to shoot them, I get shot and die.

Do I need 6 in fitness, is there something I'm missing? This was silver and I couldn't even move without just falling flat on my face and dying. I thought the idea was I needed to be up in faces with annihilation field and make them explode. Then I died over and over and decided I didn't want to play that anymore.

Schenck v. U.S.
Sep 8, 2010

Zuriel147 posted:

1. What's a good build for the turian sentinel?

6/6/6/4/4.
Tech armor goes Durability->Power Damage->Power recharge.
Warp goes Detonate->Expose->Pierce.
Overload goes Chain Overload->your choice->Shield Damage. Some people don't like Neural Shock, because enemies that fall over can be harder to shoot, and the more dangerous enemies are all immune. On the other hand, an enemy affected by it will stay down for at least a couple seconds longer, which can sometimes be useful. Also if you maintain a low weight (and you should, since you're a caster) the recharge speed isn't an issue.
Take power damage & capacity for your racial passive, and durability for fitness.

Building your class in this way gives the best compromise of casting and durability, and the class's powers are great. Warp will inflict good damage and reduce the effect of armor, while overload strips shields and barriers and gives you some crowd control from the chain upgrade. However, tech bursts are a bit iffy (explained below) and you can't do biotic explosions on your own, so what your powers are really doing is setting enemies up to be finished by your teammates or by your guns. The Hurricane is a great complement to this class, but since you say you're just starting out you probably don't have one. You should use whatever weapons you have available that don't drop you below +150% or so.

There's also an alternative build that I haven't used in ages because it's less versatile, but I used a lot when I first got the class. You ignore warp and max everything else. This gives you a lot of survivability from tech armor and fitness, great bonuses to guns from the Turian racial passive, and overload is a wonderful utility power for crowd control and barriers. This is a little easier to play at you might consider it until you're comfortable with the game and you "graduate" to more complex tactics.

quote:

2. What techs lead to a tech burst, or more clearly, what creates a tech burst most reliably?

Overload primes a tech burst on whoever it hit, and if the same enemy is hit with a different offensive power (i.e. warp) inside a window of a few seconds, it will go off. With the Turian sentinel this is sometimes hard to do, because with tech armor active the cooldown on overload will usually be only barely shorter than that window, meaning you'll often miss the opportunity. It's a lot easier to achieve with a human engineer running combos off overload-incinerate.

quote:

3. I have noticed that my turian doesn't do the "combat roll" you usually get with a double tap of the action button. Is this a glitch or is it just because the class is a bit heavier?

Turians, Batarians, and Krogans don't get combat rolls, although Turians can roll between pieces of cover if they're the right distance from one another.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

zxqv8 posted:

I can't appear to make the N7 Fury work properly. When I go to try to make things explode, I get shot and die. When I stand back to try to shoot them, I get shot and die.

Do I need 6 in fitness, is there something I'm missing? This was silver and I couldn't even move without just falling flat on my face and dying. I thought the idea was I needed to be up in faces with annihilation field and make them explode. Then I died over and over and decided I didn't want to play that anymore.
You have the drain evolution in Field, right? And if that isn't working, you can play them like an Asari Adept that gets faster, weaker explosions. Are your cooldowns really close to 200%? They should be.

I do it pretty solidly on Gold with 4 in Fitness.

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?
I must be approaching it wrong or something. I have like 194% with a lightened hurricane and talon.

I have drain in field, but I can't get up on anything without dying first. I'm not sure why I'm getting floored all the time.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

zxqv8 posted:

I must be approaching it wrong or something. I have like 194% with a lightened hurricane and talon.

I have drain in field, but I can't get up on anything without dying first. I'm not sure why I'm getting floored all the time.
Yeah, me neither. Sprint and Range evos in Field? I zip around all over the place with that poo poo. Try sprinting from cover to cover until you get close enough to actually rush something. It kinda sounds like you're just rushing headfirst into massive mobs of enemies. You aren't invincible, or even very durable. Take the extra few seconds to come from the side or the back while your teammates draw fire. Still, I don't know, I often just charge headfirst into mobs on Gold and come out...okay. There might be a few good videos around to glance at.

Are both your Talon and Hurricane lightened? If not, there's still a bug with SMG ultralight materials that make it show up as being lightened but it is all lies. I'm currently using Stronghold III (its the best I got, honest!) as my gear for the extra toughness. Even at V, though, it still isn't comparable to fitness.

edit: Cast Throw at pretty much every available opportunity until you figure out the exact range on Field. If you do it right, you'll Throw and while you're chasing down your throw your Field will prime. Shotgun infiltrators, not Vanguards, are your gameplay models

Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Aug 18, 2012

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?
I suppose maybe that was the problem. I'll have to try it out with reasonable players with whom I can communicate before trying to go with pubs.

I have stronghold 4 and splaaaaat.

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Turian should at least get a weakass hop or something. They're not nearly as tough as Krogan or Batarian. I get that their race passives really promote staying behind cover, but gently caress that. Garrus eats missiles to the face all the time, man hates cover.

Felinoid
Mar 8, 2009

Marginally better than Shepard's dancing. 2/10

That DICK! posted:

Turian should at least get a weakass hop or something. They're not nearly as tough as Krogan or Batarian. I get that their race passives really promote staying behind cover, but gently caress that. Garrus eats missiles to the face all the time, man hates cover.

He only ate a missile because he tried to roll, and rolled straight into it. Never again will he make that mistake, and during his time leading the task force he impressed that upon the troops. (Remember Jack's flipout at her student about her Cerberus-related scars? Something like that.)

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Felinoid posted:

He only ate a missile because he tried to roll, and rolled straight into it. Never again will he make that mistake, and during his time leading the task force he impressed that upon the troops. (Remember Jack's flipout at her student about her Cerberus-related scars? Something like that.)

That's assuming he didn't eat a missile after you told his feathery rear end to tuck and roll through some vents.

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AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009

That DICK! posted:

That's assuming he didn't eat a missile after you told his feathery rear end to tuck and roll through some vents.

You monster, you didn't send Garrus into the vents, that was clearly Thane's job. I mean, he comes out of vents when you first see him. :smug:

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