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Thanks to the disable-DLC trick, I now - after four Fury cards, four Slayer cards, four Destroyer cards and two Demolisher cards - have the N7 Paladin! I am enjoying Snap Freeze, but I am thinking I made a mistake speccing Energy Drain to boost my shields and to work in a wide radius, since I'm far more used to stripping shields with its cousin Overload. Would this be a better idea for my next respec card?
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Thanks for the clarifications there guys - I will try those out. I have definitely noticed that I am less likely to get one - shotted with the turian. I will just have to cross my fingers for "balanced" squads so I can be a bit more effective with the old combinations. Cheers!
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What's so terrible about the Eagle? I do okay with it, it honestly doesn't seem like some awful dud. I'm genuinely asking, I tend to mix up class and weapon and everything with each new game so maybe haven't compared it to alternatives objectively or anything.
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Aug 18, 2012 12:46
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Is Lift Grenades not causing biotic explosions a bug or intentional? I'm replaying single player, and a Singularity with a lift grenade thrown in the middle kills everything on Insanity. 
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zxqv8 posted:I must be approaching it wrong or something. I have like 194% with a lightened hurricane and talon. My build: http://narida.pytalhost.com/me3/classes/#05RLOFF@0@0@A@@@0@0@0@0 Soloed a gold with this yesterday, first time I've managed to solo gold  Annihilation field is amazing and you need it up and running at all times. The speed boost is more useful than extra damage. Drain at rank 6 is a given as it lets you be very aggressive and is a great gently caress you to husks and geth hunters. Rank 6 of dark channel can go either way. I prefer pierce because I normally will only be using it on the big stuff and it ruins banshees. For gear you want some sort of shield booster. I dont find myself using guns often with this character so I take a phalanx X with a piercing mod. Some tips: The dream situation for a fury is a tight corridor or cramped room full of enemies. Activate annihilation field, turn a corner and blow poo poo up with impunity. This makes her much more effective on maps like glacier or ghost. You can do well on any map but on larger more open maps you need to either hang back and spam dark channel/throw or be sneaky and flank. You have speed and mobility so use them. Obviously running toward a group of enemies over open ground is suicidal. Even if you reach them and do some damage their friends to the side who you didnt see will gun you down in short order. Map knowledge is important. You need to know which walls you can teleport through to escape and so on. Again small cramped maps are great for this. Use heavy melee to close quickly with groups of basic soldiers. The shockwave will stagger them while the animation finishes and you get your bearings and then you can vaporise them all with explosions. When you get close, prioritise shielded enemies like marauders and centurions. Draining their shields will add to your survivability and annihilation field damage will cause unshielded enemies to flail around in panic. If you can strip shields quickly with an explosion it will stop them from walking up to you and smacking you in the face. Fury was my only N7 character for a long time and I thought she was garbage but you need to play for a while until the play style clicks. Close quarters with an adept is pretty much the definition of high risk high reward and once you develop a feel for the character you will do very well. TJO posted:What's so terrible about the Eagle? I do okay with it, it honestly doesn't seem like some awful dud. I'm genuinely asking, I tend to mix up class and weapon and everything with each new game so maybe haven't compared it to alternatives objectively or anything. It isnt totally unusable and is better than most people make it out to be, but the recoil makes it useless at range and on higher difficulties its about as damaging as a mean look. Pumpking fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Aug 18, 2012 |
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Aug 18, 2012 13:11
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Magic Love Hose posted:I am enjoying Snap Freeze, but I am thinking I made a mistake speccing Energy Drain to boost my shields and to work in a wide radius, since I'm far more used to stripping shields with its cousin Overload. Would this be a better idea for my next respec card? TJO posted:What's so terrible about the Eagle? Houdini posted:Is Lift Grenades not causing biotic explosions a bug or intentional? I'm replaying single player, and a Singularity with a lift grenade thrown in the middle kills everything on Insanity. Edit: Actually, this does work if the wiki is to be believed, but they can only detonate enemies without protection, which probably means you can't detonate armored enemies with them. Exodee fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Aug 18, 2012 |
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Aug 18, 2012 13:14
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Houdini posted:Is Lift Grenades not causing biotic explosions a bug or intentional? I'm replaying single player, and a Singularity with a lift grenade thrown in the middle kills everything on Insanity. The Lift Grenade does enough damage to kill the enemy before it can set off a biotic explosion, unless you chuck it at a Prime or something.
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Aug 18, 2012 13:15
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TJO posted:What's so terrible about the Eagle? I do okay with it, it honestly doesn't seem like some awful dud. I'm genuinely asking, I tend to mix up class and weapon and everything with each new game so maybe haven't compared it to alternatives objectively or anything.  , too.)The only thing it has going for it is its low weight and being full auto with high accuracy, making it a somewhat acceptable sidearm for a caster build. However, since the introduction of ULM for pistols the low weight far less of an advantage, especially when you have the Talon; on my Human Engineer I can pack both a Talon+ULM and Hurricane+ULM and still have 200% cooldown. Hell, even a much more easily obtained Piranha X will leave you at 170%+ cooldown, and that gun will actually do something if an enemy catches you off guard. There's just no reason to use the Eagle unless you just don't have any better guns/mods yet. Though, even if I didn't have the Talon I'd pick something like the Phalanx, as I personally really don't care about full auto at all. Also, unlike most pistols it actually has recoil (of the kind that moves your aim) which is annoying to deal with on a controller and ruins long range damage output pretty effectively.
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Aug 18, 2012 13:27
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Doc Dee posted:They should do something about these NOT popping up if you have the class level maxed out. I'd rather get a random consumable I'll almost likely never use than a Human Female Adept on my PSPs.
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Aug 18, 2012 13:28
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Houdini posted:Is Lift Grenades not causing biotic explosions a bug or intentional? I'm replaying single player, and a Singularity with a lift grenade thrown in the middle kills everything on Insanity. Are you playing as an adept? They have cluster grenades in single player not lift grenades. Lift grenades prime and cluster detonates.
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Aug 18, 2012 14:11
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Lagomorphic posted:Are you playing as an adept? They have cluster grenades in single player not lift grenades. Lift grenades prime and cluster detonates. Vanguard. I take Liara and the Protheon (I don't know why I don't know his name) who has Lift Grenades.
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Aug 18, 2012 14:19
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TJO posted:What's so terrible about the Eagle? I do okay with it, it honestly doesn't seem like some awful dud. I'm genuinely asking, I tend to mix up class and weapon and everything with each new game so maybe haven't compared it to alternatives objectively or anything. Whatever it does, other weapons do it better. Want a lightweight automatic sidearm? Use a Hurricane/Tempest/Hornet. Just want a light weapon? Use a Carnifex/Paladin/Talon. They deliver more damage in less bullets, which means you spend less time out of cover and exposed. Maybe if the Eagle was a regular gold weapon and we could easily get it to level X it might be worthwhile.
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Aug 18, 2012 14:28
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Houdini posted:Vanguard. I take Liara and the Protheon (I don't know why I don't know his name) who has Lift Grenades. The name is Javik. I just double checked and yeah lift grenades detonate as well as prime. Not sure why you're having trouble detonating unless you have teammates spaming overload or something.
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Aug 18, 2012 14:32
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That DICK! posted:Turian should at least get a weakass hop or something. They're not nearly as tough as Krogan or Batarian. I get that their race passives really promote staying behind cover, but gently caress that. Garrus eats missiles to the face all the time, man hates cover. They should give turians AT LEAST the Vorcha duck and weave, and probably deserve the drell ninja flips if not better. According to the lore, turians are the most mobile race in the game by a pretty big margin.
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Aug 18, 2012 15:22
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So far the dodges have only rarely helped me very much. I use them a lot on classes that have them, but typically I just get hit by whatever I was trying to dodge anyway. Because there are no invincibility frames and most of the things you would want to dodge just home anyway (rockets, that bullshit banshee projectile that continues to hurt you for a long time), it never really seems to do anything besides get me away from normal fire a fraction of a second faster. It seems like the only way to really be safe is to just entrench yourself behind cover, until a grenade or something comes along. Or just have a ridiculous amount of defense. Started a Turian Sentinel and I'm amazed at how much damage he can take compared to the Drell Adept I was just using, which felt a bit like the N7 Fury experience posted above--Exist in a single enemy's field of view for more than a second and suddenly your barrier is gone and you're down to half a health bar.
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RE: Eagle People poo poo on it because it's an okay gun when the Hurricane and Valiant are ridiculous (and getting an Eagle means you don't get one of those), and there are tons more okay guns that are significantly easier to level up. All my N7 weapons were at 2-3 until last weekend's Crusader IV, and only that high because I've done every single operation. Meanwhile all my silver and gold weapons are maxed, and even in ultra-rares I've got two Vs, three IVs, and so on. Some people have even more; hell, I heard some randoms chatting in a lobby the other day about "that's the first ultra-rare I got to X".  Even if I had an Eagle X, which I'm glad I don't because then I'd only have a I of a single other N7 weapon, it would still face stiff competition from other guns that I've had at X for at least a couple months. Like the Predator. Or my new Indra III. Or maybe something that doesn't turn into a wet noodle on Gold, like the Carnifex.Exodee posted:Lift Grenade biotic explosions only work on lifted targets, I believe. So you can't go Reave -> Lift Grenade -> BE, unfortunately. I was just doing Warp->Lift Grenade on Ravagers in SP last night, and I think it happened about half the time. I chalked up the times it "didn't" happen to just being unable to tell through the Lift Grenade graphic/sound, though. It's fairly flashy and loud. Gestalt Intellect posted:So far the dodges have only rarely helped me very much. I use them a lot on classes that have them, but typically I just get hit by whatever I was trying to dodge anyway. Because there are no invincibility frames and most of the things you would want to dodge just home anyway (rockets, that bullshit banshee projectile that continues to hurt you for a long time). It seems like the only way to really be safe is to just entrench yourself behind cover, until a grenade or something comes along. Dodging has intrinsic DR much like heavy melee does. Naturally some have better (batarian heavy melee has an outstanding amount, enough so that last night I took an Atlas rocket to the face during the animation and lost maybe 20% of my shields on Silver, while I think the drell's dodge has more DR than usual), but most of the time you won't really notice it. The dodge's true purpose is when you're thinking "okay, I need to be about 5 feet to the side RIGHT NOW". For example it's very handy for when you round a corner and spot a pair of Ravagers or Primes, or a horde of Phantoms or whatever. It can also be used just to be stylish when you've got nothing else to do, but naturally that doesn't really come up above Silver. (With the notable exception of trying to keep that last two bars of health for the final few seconds when extracting from Jade, because you can't be in cover to extract, and some DR is better than none.) Oh, and speaking of entrenching yourself behind cover, being in cover has intrinsic DR as well. At the very least if a grenade is plopped at your feet (and I do mean directly under you) you take significantly less damage from just riding it out against cover that shouldn't protect you at all from the blast than if you tried to put some distance between you and it and didn't quite escape the blast radius. Also welcome to the "Turian Sentinel is awesome" club. I bet if Garrus had Tech Armour he would've been just fine taking that rocket. 
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So I just "got" the revenant today. the first time I used it I was wondering why such a loved gun takes half a magazine to kill a husk. Then I tried it with a turian and watched the yellow bars melt like butter off of atlases and pyros and banshees.
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People "love" the Revenant because it is a big fun bullethose not because it is good. If you build around or pair it with a complimentary class like a Turian you can make it work but it's not considered to be a good gun. Here's the good AR's: Mattock, Harrier, and Typhoon. Some folks include the Phaeston on that list.
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Well, whenever the RNG gets around to giving me some good ARs I can make the switch! I do have the mattock, but only at level 1. I just need to play more to get more boxes I think. http://social.bioware.com/3882273/&v=bw_games&game=masseffect3_pc&pid=427575881&display=multiplayer what're my best options here? also, I added my name to the player list, but I should let people know I usually just slum it in a BatSol with a katana X and beat levels to death on silver. alchahest fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Aug 18, 2012 |
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Lagomorphic posted:Here's the good AR's: Mattock, Harrier, and Typhoon. Some folks include the Phaeston on that list. Felinoid posted:I was just doing Warp->Lift Grenade on Ravagers in SP last night, and I think it happened about half the time. I chalked up the times it "didn't" happen to just being unable to tell through the Lift Grenade graphic/sound, though. It's fairly flashy and loud.
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Exodee posted:The Saber's pretty good as well, for its head-sniping potential. Although I guess the Harrier kinda stole its thunder. poo poo I forgot about the Sabre, and yes the Sabre is one of the good ones. alchahest posted:http://social.bioware.com/3882273/&v=bw_games&game=masseffect3_pc&pid=427575881&display=multiplayer You don't have the armor piercing mod for the assault rifle so I'd avoid them for now. With that pool your best options are the Geth Plasma Shotgun and the Valiant. The GPSG bypasses the armor damage reduction so you don't need piercing run it with extended barrel and either the bayonet or spare clips. Also if you want to get some fast/easy credits take this and start farming geth/gold/firebase white. Lagomorphic fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Aug 18, 2012 |
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Aug 18, 2012 19:42
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:They should give turians AT LEAST the Vorcha duck and weave, and probably deserve the drell ninja flips if not better. According to the lore, turians are the most mobile race in the game by a pretty big margin. Looks pretty limber to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHStdhBf2FE
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Playing through Firebase Glacier on SP again after nearly five months is pure  "ahahahaha, guys the situation's desperate, they're sending ... *giggle* MULTIPLE Centurions at us! Pretty sure I saw a Guardian downstaahahahahahaha" kinda wish I had more than a lovely Mantis I though. My Salarian Infiltrator would have been sitting on a mountain of corpses smoking a doobie when Cortez arrived and been all like "sup". Also having time slow down whenever anything interesting happens is surprisingly distracting.
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What's even more hilarious is your teammates still dropping like flies. Garrus, you stupid loving pubbie!
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Lagomorphic posted:People "love" the Revenant because it is a big fun bullethose not because it is good. If you build around or pair it with a complimentary class like a Turian you can make it work but it's not considered to be a good gun. The most fun I've ever had is running around with a Turian Soldier with a Revenant and a Hurricane 
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Zifnab posted:The most fun I've ever had is running around with a Turian Soldier with a Revenant and a Hurricane Group of Turians Soldiers with Revenants and/or Hurricanes. We made it to wave 8 on Gold on Hydra, I think.
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Apparantly missile glitching is still a thing. I'm in a platinum game with a guy doing it now. They're using a striker if that means anything.
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Tremors posted:Apparantly missile glitching is still a thing. I'm in a platinum game with a guy doing it now. They're using a striker if that means anything. Yeah, I saw the same thing this afternoon, with the Striker as well.
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Is this on any particular platform? I've heard of this on the 360, bit haven't seen it happen on PC.
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I'm on 360. They're playing as a destroyer, which I wonder if the reason is cosmetic or if they think they're hiding anything. edit: He sent me this message which I don't fully understand. quote:What you do is you get the striker out, and you take the missile launcher, you hold down rt shooting the missile up your round and count to two, and you hold down x, and then you shoot the striker and push up on the dpad. Tremors fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Aug 19, 2012 |
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Tremors posted:I'm on 360. They're playing as a destroyer, which I wonder if the reason is cosmetic or if they think they're hiding anything. Edit: Oh. Someone figured it out. They're gonna have to change how missiles work again, aren't they?
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Rudoku posted:
You just planted the worst idea in my head. After ... balance changes, July 31st & August 8th posted:Pull I'm suddenly expecting this: balance changes, August 29th posted:Cobra Missile Launcher 
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Felinoid posted:I'm suddenly expecting this: Oh god, ow, my brain! MY BRAIN!!! They have to increase the Destroyer's damage, they just have to. Also, although it might be a long shot, maybe next patch they'll change the power's name. You know, along with the vanguard glitch. 
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Nothing like the game crashing 30 seconds before extraction, after getting random disconnects on waves 10 and 7 on the last two games. I am never getting an N7 class at this rate.
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Gestalt Intellect posted:Nothing like the game crashing 30 seconds before extraction, after getting random disconnects on waves 10 and 7 on the last two games. That's why you get yourself killed after the wave 10 objective  . Force your teammates to run into a group of high level enemies and die before the game has a chance to dick you over.
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Enter Char posted:That's why you get yourself killed after the wave 10 objective
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N7 Slayer's heavy melee has RIDICULOUS range. I've locked onto Phantoms behind cover from like 8m away before and he'll just scoot around them like a mini-Shadow Strike. If you're having trouble making Slayer melee builds work, just pause for a half-second after each charge before you highlander that poo poo.
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Typhoon I, Assault Rifle Piercing Mod I and Operative Package I in the same PSP Any particular class that I should try with the Typhoon? Here's my Manifest: http://social.bioware.com/4032893/&v=bw_games&game=masseffect3_xbox&pid=223480191&display=multiplayer Edit: and now a Harrier I, the RNG gods are smiling upon me today curried lamb of God fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Aug 19, 2012 |
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Complaining was worth it, I just got an N7 Slayer and N7 Fury (the latter somehow in a Veteran pack). Even got 2 Raptor upgrades which is possibly my favorite weapon, so it's at least partially leveled up now. I was hoping for an N7 Shadow but I'll definitely take these! First impressions of the Slayer on bronze are that he's unbelievably powerful with a lot of one-shot attacks and the ability to teleport, gain 100% barrier back every several seconds, and generally just obliterate everything. But when I tried silver it just felt like a lot of charging into an enemy and then suddenly finding 6 pyros and hunters next to it, and they can somehow time melee attacks so they hit you the moment you arrive. Not sure what to do about that. Only done one game with the Fury on bronze but she seems amazing, just hoping I don't have the same experience as with the Slayer when I move up to silver. When I read the Annihilation Field description I didn't realize it traveled with you, which makes it just outstanding. Running fast and having a teleport AOE melee is pretty great too. Finally getting a good string of awesome unlocks. For a while I just kept getting the same classes I already have and weird gimmick guns like the Krysae Sniper and Harpoon gun which are fun to use but ridiculously heavy and not efficient at all. I only carried the Krysae because I wanted to gib phantoms. Owl Inspector fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Aug 19, 2012 |
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I really have to stop getting myself squashed from time to time, as I am now watching a 10 minute round happen as a paladin with an acolyte kills things in the slowest manner humanly possible. also: I'm looking for more fun people to play with as I attempt to finally get a harrier after months of bad luck. I'm Australian, so people near me/in my timezone are generally preferred. Origin: Banjodark edit - I think I might just host every game I play, all it takes is a .5 second delay on shadow strike to from lag to make the game feel unplayable. Banjodark fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Aug 19, 2012 |
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