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Doloen
Dec 18, 2004

leokitty posted:

Hurts my brain that Plaschke is still a featured guy after his horrible personal attacks on Lindsey Vonn who is pretty much the greatest (woman) downhill skier ever.

What the hell would anybody attack Vonn over?


Never mind, I assume it's this.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/11/sports/la-sp-olympics-plaschke11-2010feb11

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leokitty
Apr 5, 2005

I live. I die. I live again.
e: ^^ Yes it is that thing and goddammit it still pisses me off

YodaTFK posted:

What the hell would anybody attack Vonn over?

Because she's pretty and did some ads/etc that showed off how pretty she is, the horror :qq:

poly and open-minded
Nov 22, 2006

In BOD we trust

God, Plaschke's writing is terrible.

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

I loving hate Bill Plaschke, he is dreadful.

This is only partially fueled by the fact that he's a Louisville native and UL fan. Mostly it's because he writes poo poo like that Vonn piece (and numerous other terrible articles of various levels of reprehensibility).

Simers is basically a gimmick or bordering on parody, kind of like a Skip Bayless in print. At least that's how I look at him.

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004

Timeouts?!

We'll take care of that.
God dammit, Bill Plaschke's writing is SO BAD. Even if you could ignore the content of the articles, the presentation is just loving atrocious. It makes me mad. Why did someone not edit that loving garbage out of him when he was 22?

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Perhaps the most horrifying thing about this thread is that the writers who are most obviously horrible and get lots of mentions here are frequently perpetual award winners. Plaschke has won several writer or columnist of the year awards in a row. Peter King just won some honor.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?

Groucho Marxist posted:

Deadspin is trying to crowdsource funding to buy a picture of Ryan Lochte's penis.
http://deadspin.com/5938560/how-much-would-you-pay-to-see-a-photo-of-ryan-lochtes-alleged-penis

Internet, listen, we need to talk. His penis will not actually be that interesting. It will probably look like every other penis. Penises are easy to find online! In like five seconds you could easily find a picture of a big ole penis that someone intentionally decided to share with the internet. Your digital cup overflowth with dong. Please save your money and leave Ryan Lochte alone.

MourningView fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Aug 29, 2012

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004

Timeouts?!

We'll take care of that.

Mr. Funny Pants posted:

Perhaps the most horrifying thing about this thread is that the writers who are most obviously horrible and get lots of mentions here are frequently perpetual award winners. Plaschke has won several writer or columnist of the year awards in a row. Peter King just won some honor.

The difference between Plaschke and someone like King is that King has chosen to turn his columns into 1500 word rambles about slop and garbage, but is fundamentally and technically a sound writer. In the past, he has written things that were worth reading. Bill Plaschke struggles to write coherent thoughts.

"Or is it cover girl?" IS NOT A SENTENCE.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Badfinger posted:

King has chosen to turn his columns into 1500 word rambles about slop and garbage, but is fundamentally and technically a sound writer.

I don't know, a good chunk of the poo poo that Kissing Suzy Kolber dumps on him every Monday is his mangling of the written word. Unless you mean he has chosen to turn his columns into slop in every area, including grammar.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

Badfinger posted:

The difference between Plaschke and someone like King is that King has chosen to turn his columns into 1500 word rambles about slop and garbage, but is fundamentally and technically a sound writer. In the past, he has written things that were worth reading.

Yeah, he also seems like a decent guy and a hardworking writer that occasionally has interesting insights. I haven't read his column regularly in a while, but the format makes it pretty easy to avoid his uber-Baby Boomer diary sections.

MourningView posted:

Internet, listen, we need to talk. His penis will not actually be that interesting. It will probably look like every other penis. Penises are easy to find online! In like five seconds you could easily find a picture of a big ole penis that someone intentionally decided to share with the internet. Your digital cup overflowth with dong. Please save your money and leave Ryan Lochte alone.

No to mention that Ryan Lochte is a person that spends 90% of his public appearances in a Speedo. You can probably imagine what he looks like naked relatively easily.

morestuff fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 29, 2012

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Groucho Marxist posted:

Deadspin is trying to crowdsource funding to buy a picture of Ryan Lochte's penis.
http://deadspin.com/5938560/how-much-would-you-pay-to-see-a-photo-of-ryan-lochtes-alleged-penis

I'm mainly annoyed by this because Gawker/deadspin has plenty of money to throw around already without having to take loving donations on their website.

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Do you smell what The Mauk is cooking?
The indiegogo page is under "flexible funding" which means they get to keep the money even if they don't reach the goal. So they could very easily just take people's money without producing a dong.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Groucho Marxist posted:

The indiegogo page is under "flexible funding" which means they get to keep the money even if they don't reach the goal. So they could very easily just take people's money without producing a dong.

That would actually be an acceptable outcome to me for anyone dumb enough to hand over money for this garbage.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Groucho Marxist posted:

The indiegogo page is under "flexible funding" which means they get to keep the money even if they don't reach the goal. So they could very easily just take people's money without producing a dong.

I kind of wonder if it violates the no porn crowdsourcing restriction that indiegogo has.

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

Toffile posted:

I kind of wonder if it violates the no porn crowdsourcing restriction that indiegogo has.

Want to see a Very Serious Post arguing that Lochtedongs are art and so they should keep the money

Copernic
Sep 16, 2006

...A Champion, who by mettle of his glowing personal charm alone, saved the universe...
RICK. REILLY.

quote:

I'm wearing something yellow Friday for Lance Armstrong. Not because I think he's innocent. He just gave up his chance to prove his innocence, so I suppose he isn't.

...

Maybe these riders are lying, maybe they're not. I don't care. I'm wearing yellow Friday because I want Armstrong to know what he meant to me, my family and the dozens of people I know who took Armstrong with them into those chemotherapy rooms and radiation labs and the darkest corners of their fears.

...

Fine. If he cheated, wipe him out of the record book. Make him pay back the first-place money he won all those years. He gave it all away to his teammates anyway. There's some irony for you. Plenty of those guys -- George Hincapie, Landis, Tyler Hamilton -- were suspected of, or admitted, using banned substance too.

But wear something yellow Friday just to return the favor. Wear something yellow to tell Lance Armstrong that they might be able to ban him for life, but they can't ban him from life. Wear it to tell him to keep going, to keep fighting for cancer-research legislation, to keep showing people through his Livestrong foundation how to fight through the red tape and get to the treatment that can cure them.

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates

Mr. Funny Pants posted:

I don't know, a good chunk of the poo poo that Kissing Suzy Kolber dumps on him every Monday is his mangling of the written word. Unless you mean he has chosen to turn his columns into slop in every area, including grammar.

Most of the stuff that KSK gives King for are stylistic issues, not technical problems. It's clear that he's actually aware of how to construct readable sentences and paragraphs (there's no hope for him at lists, though). Plaschke's poo poo doesn't even require reading to see that it's garbage.

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004

Timeouts?!

We'll take care of that.
In my mind, that makes King worse because he has the capability to not be a garbage spewer but has made the conscious choice that he can get away with it so by god he will.

Bill Plaschke is horrible, but someone never teaching him how to write, no one editing him properly, and him being permitted to have this prominent platform he has no business being on isn't his fault. It just turns out we all suffer for it.

Grozz Nuy
Feb 21, 2008

Welcome to Moonside.

Wecomel to Soonmide.

Moonwel ot cosidme.

I wonder if there's some underlying reason that Reilly is apologizing for Armstrong doping but happily wrote numerous hackjobs about Barry Bonds over the years.

It seems like there's a key difference between those two men but I can't quite put my finger on it...

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates

Grozz Nuy posted:

I wonder if there's some underlying reason that Reilly is apologizing for Armstrong doping but happily wrote numerous hackjobs about Barry Bonds over the years.

It seems like there's a key difference between those two men but I can't quite put my finger on it...

Number of testicles?

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Do you smell what The Mauk is cooking?

Grozz Nuy posted:

I wonder if there's some underlying reason that Reilly is apologizing for Armstrong doping but happily wrote numerous hackjobs about Barry Bonds over the years.

It seems like there's a key difference between those two men but I can't quite put my finger on it...

That seems like quite a stretch.

Colonel Whitey
May 22, 2004

This shit's about to go off.
Number of testicles = number of dangly earrings + 1

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Grozz Nuy posted:

It seems like there's a key difference between those two men but I can't quite put my finger on it...

I'd go with the fact that cheater or not (har), Barry Bond's is an unqualified rear end in a top hat, one of monumental proportions. Doesn't mean it's fair, but that's how it goes.

Moe_Rahn
Jun 1, 2006

I got a question
why they hatin' on me?
I ain't did nothin' to 'em
but count this money
and put my team on
got my whole clique stunnin'
boy wassup
yeeeeeaaaaaahhhh

Mr. Funny Pants posted:

I'd go with the fact that cheater or not (har), Barry Bond's is an unqualified rear end in a top hat, one of monumental proportions. Doesn't mean it's fair, but that's how it goes.
So is Lance Armstrong.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Moe_Rahn posted:

So is Lance Armstrong.

You know what I mean.

LARGE THE HEAD
Sep 1, 2009

"Competitive greatness is when you play your best against the best."

"Learn as if you were to live forever; live as if you were to die tomorrow."

--John Wooden
Armstrong is a bigger cheater and a bigger rear end in a top hat than Barry Bonds could ever hope to be. He just doesn't play America's sport, so more people are easily dismissive.

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA
Barry Bonds made the mistake of playing a sport Americans know about and feel they can tut tut over his transgressions.

Lance Armstrong gets the benefit of the doubt from people because 99% of his fan base are flag waving Archie Bunker slobs who only care that an American won something.

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Do you smell what The Mauk is cooking?

LARGE THE HEAD posted:

Armstrong is a bigger cheater and a bigger rear end in a top hat than Barry Bonds could ever hope to be. He just doesn't play America's sport, so more people are easily dismissive.
The cancer narrative is driving it IMO

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
I know it's fun to accuse Rick Riley of being a racist but yeah it's probably just that Lance Armstrong was a lot nicer to reporters and had cancer.

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004

Timeouts?!

We'll take care of that.

Mr. Funny Pants posted:

You know what I mean.

From many non-interviewer observer reports, Mr. Armstrong is a tremendous jerk in a lot of ways.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Badfinger posted:

From many non-interviewer observer reports, Mr. Armstrong is a tremendous jerk in a lot of ways.

I understand that. But on a day-to-day, interaction with the press and most fans basis, he's not. That that might be an act is believable, but with Bonds, you never had to guess, the guy was a prick to just about everyone just about all the time. Some of the stuff about him in Game of Shadows is cartoonish.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
Zach Lowe from Sports Illustrated will be joining Grantland on October 1. They have a really talented staff covering the NBA there.

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

MourningView posted:

I know it's fun to accuse Rick Riley of being a racist but yeah it's probably just that Lance Armstrong was a lot nicer to reporters and had cancer.

And started a pretty large cancer foundation. Liar or not, his foundation has raised over half a billion dollars. He's personally donated significant money to it. It by all accounts does a lot of good in the world.


morestuff posted:

Zach Lowe from Sports Illustrated will be joining Grantland on October 1. They have a really talented staff covering the NBA there.

That's a good pickup. Although there will be no shortage of Boston articles.

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA

Niwrad posted:

And started a pretty large cancer foundation. Liar or not, his foundation has raised over half a billion dollars. He's personally donated significant money to it. It by all accounts does a lot of good in the world.


That's a good pickup. Although there will be no shortage of Boston articles.

Not when the money stops being put to research like it has been since 2010.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Groucho Marxist posted:

Deadspin is trying to crowdsource funding to buy a picture of Ryan Lochte's penis.
http://deadspin.com/5938560/how-much-would-you-pay-to-see-a-photo-of-ryan-lochtes-alleged-penis


Toffile posted:

I kind of wonder if it violates the no porn crowdsourcing restriction that indiegogo has.

Deadspin posted:

Thank You For Donating $141 Toward Ryan Lochte’s Alleged Cock Shot. We Will Not Be Purchasing Ryan Lochte’s Alleged Cock Shot.

Yesterday, we asked you an important question: How badly did you want to see Ryan Lochte's alleged cock? A photo had been offered to us. We had looked it over, and before launching negotiations with our source, we decided to gauge your interest in the photo first, via an Indiegogo pledge drive. Eleven of you contributed. You raised $141, just $4,859 short of our goal. Thank you, Deadspin readers!

Alas, we've been informed by the exceedingly kind and patient people at Indiegogo that our Cockstarter campaign violated the site's terms of service. Indiegogo is now in the process of returning contributions to our donors.

http://deadspin.com/5939062/thank-y...leged-cock-shot

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Most cancer survivors are human garbage.

LARGE THE HEAD
Sep 1, 2009

"Competitive greatness is when you play your best against the best."

"Learn as if you were to live forever; live as if you were to die tomorrow."

--John Wooden

Frot Lesnar posted:

Not when the money stops being put to research like it has been since 2010.

Exactly. Y'all should read this for some context. Livestrong basically is a sponsorship and bracelet-selling vehicle that makes Lance Armstrong money and makes Americans feel good about cancer.

General Dog posted:

Most cancer survivors are human garbage.

Haha what

DO YALL WANT A BOXC
Jul 20, 2010

HAHA! WOOOOOOO WOOO!
Fun Shoe

LARGE THE HEAD posted:

Exactly. Y'all should read this for some context. Livestrong basically is a sponsorship and bracelet-selling vehicle that makes Lance Armstrong money and makes Americans feel good about cancer.

I was gonna post that. Good article.

Mr. Funny Pants posted:

I understand that. But on a day-to-day, interaction with the press and most fans basis, he's not. That that might be an act is believable, but with Bonds, you never had to guess, the guy was a prick to just about everyone just about all the time. Some of the stuff about him in Game of Shadows is cartoonish.

He rubbed and took the precious roids,
His muscles grew robust;
He knew no more that he was ignored,
Nor that his legacy dust.
He glanced along the awful prose,
And this request of words
With but a look. What Plaschke
Writes is a piece of poo poo!

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
The NY Post is great sometimes.

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Keven. Just. Keven
May 25, 2010

MY GOD. THE WILL... THE FIGHTING SPIRIT... JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT'S OVER, TSM COMES BACK STRONGER THAN EVER.

morestuff posted:

The NY Post is great sometimes.



That looks cool.

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