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Atheris posted:Also, due to how the game engine handles Ulysses' custom face and hair, his face couldn't be animated. So no lip syncing and no blinking. The breathing mask is to hide the more noticeable issue. They should've given him a pair of tinted designer sunglasses. This game needs better looking eye-wear accessories.
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So uh, I've read comments about how Caesar describing the Legion's purposes and long term goals is one of the most interesting conversations in the game, so how do you get to this? I mean, I pretended to destroy the bunker and heard comments about him not wanting victory without sacrifice and hard work, but there really isn't anything that heavily suggests that Arcade's comments about it being a load of poo poo aren't right on the mark.
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Sep 3, 2012 07:47
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Wolfsheim posted:I don't think the game's writers actually remembered that, though, because it never comes up. It does actually. If you have broken steel and spiked project purity with the virus then the aqua pura is toxic to you. It causes a debuff and if you drink enough of it quickly it'll just flat out kill you.
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Sep 3, 2012 08:01
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Arbitrary Coin posted:So uh, I've read comments about how Caesar describing the Legion's purposes and long term goals is one of the most interesting conversations in the game, so how do you get to this? Go there and exhaust the conversation trees. He lays the whole thing out for you. I don't know if it matters how much the Legion likes you at the time, my first playthrough was Legion-aligned and my next one I didn't talk to him.
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Grand Fromage posted:Go there and exhaust the conversation trees. He lays the whole thing out for you. I don't know if it matters how much the Legion likes you at the time, my first playthrough was Legion-aligned and my next one I didn't talk to him. How accurate is the Legion's armor and use of langauge? This is probably the only place I can ask a Roman scholar about that. 'Course, if it's too accurate that'd break suspension of disbelief, since they'd know less than we do. I just hit the casinos. With 8 luck and a tiny knowledge of blackjack I already broke Gommorah's bank. Kinda ruins the post-apocalyptic scarcity feel to win 10,000 caps and then get bionic implants. Now that I'm at the Strip, anything I should watch out for? I don't want to lock out quests or end the game too early. Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Sep 3, 2012 |
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Sep 3, 2012 12:16
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The armor looks pretty much like you'd expect trying to replicate lorica segmentata with football gear. The pronunciation and language is accurate as far as I remember. I was very pleased with the Legion, it's not Rome but it's recognizably Roman and much of what they do is lifted right from history. My most pleasing Rome moment in the game was after talking to Vulpes at Nipton and seeing what the Legion did, I thought that Caesar must be a big fan of Cato. Then Arcade brings up the exact same point later and Caesar talks about it too. Very nicely done.
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Sep 3, 2012 12:26
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Arbitrary Coin posted:there really isn't anything that heavily suggests that Arcade's comments about it being a load of poo poo aren't right on the mark. Probably not, but it's still interesting to hear his side of the story. Plus, you may actually start thinking like Caesar, that Power is Might and starting from scratch is a good idea.
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The Rad Pack and the Kings feel a bit off to me; the Chairmen feel more Swingers than Sinatra. I haven't interacted with the Kings enough to report on their accuracy though. Vegas Elvis isn't my favorite Elvis, except for the 68 Comeback Special. Is it a coincidence that Ceaser and Benny are both modeled after great Italians? Probably. Is there any way to get the game to stop locking up on the Xbox? Count Chocula fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Sep 3, 2012 |
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Sep 3, 2012 12:36
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I think the point of the Vegas factions is that they're imitating half-understood ideas and cultures from the old world, rather than copying them exactly. If you talk to the King, it's clear that he doesn't quite understand who Elvis was, and this is simply his interpration of what he's found from the old world.
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Sep 3, 2012 13:41
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Exactly. One of the pieces of writing I really liked in F3 was the completely garbled history of the United States you get from the dude in Rivet City. I love that there's enough for people to have an idea of the old world but nobody really knows, so they're always off.
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Sep 3, 2012 13:46
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If anything you'd expect them to change more, instead of being so recognizable. It's a fine line though. I wrote up a post-apocolytic Elvis cult for a god game recently. They could have done something with the 'Memphis' idea and bring in Egyptian iconography. I gotta say I love the soundtrack for both games, though for some reason I prefer Fallout 3's a bit more. They both seem inspired by the last scene of Doctor Stranglove. I like how all the quests in NV are name after songs. I do feel like I'm missing out on a lot by just maxing Speech; on my only play through of Fallout 1 I somehow ended up at the final boss and Speeched my way past him. Same way I played Planescape Torment. I just got to Benny and it feels like it would have been more interesting if I hadn't been more silver-tongued. If they had time Obsidian should have put in a social combat system, like Deus Ex:HR. it's too easy to just max Speech, but I guess that's what makes their games unique.
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Sep 3, 2012 13:52
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It depends on the amount of destruction and the timeframe I guess. There is a fair amount of old world stuff still around in the Fallout apocalypse, and it hasn't been an incredibly long time.
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Yeah, I have a habit of playing Speech oriented characters, but I think you miss out on a lot of fun and interesting situations by not having to do things the hard way. I've never fought Benny with his bodyguards, I've never fought Oliver and the NCR goons, I've never bungled the Alice Hostetler quest and had to gun down a young girl. I think it's fun to have your character make a mess of things. You're never in a situation where you have to make the 'right' decision with speech, just pass the speech check - if that makes sense. You know that if you choose the speech option, you win (the only exception being the Dean Domino Barter check that seems to provoke everyone into making GBS threads themselves in rage).
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Beaumont posted:You're never in a situation where you have to make the 'right' decision with speech, just pass the speech check - if that makes sense. You know that if you choose the speech option, you win (the only exception being the Dean Domino Barter check that seems to provoke everyone into making GBS threads themselves in rage). edit: I redid Benny a few different ways because I Black Widow'd him the first time, then had a high enough speech the second. Not having a high speech makes Honest Hearts' endgame choice more interesting, too, since with 100 Speech there is a very clear "best" ending.
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I think you need either Speech 50 or Barter 50 to even recruit Cass, so the game kind of punishes you for not dumping points there.
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Sep 3, 2012 14:34
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Count Chocula posted:Is there any way to get the game to stop locking up on the Xbox? My experience improved after installing to HDD. If your disc is sketchy, do this for sure.
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Sep 3, 2012 14:49
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I was playing blackjack in Gomorrah when the person next to me said, "I hope my dad doesn't find out how much I spent on those hookers." It was a woman.
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Gynovore posted:I was playing blackjack in Gomorrah when the person next to me said, "I hope my dad doesn't find out how much I spent on those hookers." It's not that weird, weird was that female bandit saying "she can't prove it's mine, not going to get one rusty Septim" in Skyrim
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So lately I've been enjoying shooting legion using the Dinner Bell with the rounds made from legion money. Its a nice Karma I think. There should be a mod that lets you craft a single unique bullet out of the shrapnel doc picks out your brain. Throw it in a silenced .22 and call it "Bullet for Benny" or something I dunno. I guess I just like the idea of killing guys with their own stuff 
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Captain Hair posted:There should be a mod that lets you craft a single unique bullet out of the shrapnel doc picks out your brain. Throw it in a silenced .22 and call it "Bullet for Benny" or something I dunno. http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/40171
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Sep 3, 2012 17:15
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Wolfsheim posted:I don't think the game's writers actually remembered that, though, because it never comes up. Put the virus in the water then try to drink some in Broken Steel. Granted, yes, BS was FO3's saving throw for its phenomenally stupid original ending, but they do recognize it.
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Sep 3, 2012 17:28
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Gynovore posted:I was playing blackjack in Gomorrah when the person next to me said, "I hope my dad doesn't find out how much I spent on those hookers." There are a ton of male prostitutes in Gomorrah though, aren't there? Why have my last few posts in this thread been about the prostitutes in this game? 
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Captain Hair posted:So lately I've been enjoying shooting legion using the Dinner Bell with the rounds made from legion money. Its a nice Karma I think. I always grab Big Boomer for that purpose. I really need to find a way to get it without killing that poor old lady... I was pretty happy yesterday when I managed to snag Longue Carabine by shooting it out of Sterling's hand then holstering my weapon before I was gunned down by his friends. In the past I'd followed him for an hour on his way to Camp Hope and kill him in the middle of nowhere just to get that gun.
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it's a funny little fact that basically all of the major DLC characters seem to have been designed to avoid horrible Oblivion facegen faces. Elijah talks through a static screen image, Graham's face is bandaged, Ulysses has a gas mask, and the Think Tank don't have faces. 
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Gynovore posted:I was playing blackjack in Gomorrah when the person next to me said, "I hope my dad doesn't find out how much I spent on those hookers." That's nothing, one of the Mr Gutsies at Nellis saw me walking around with ED-E and said "I can take care of that robot problem for you. Just saying." 
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Kalos posted:Put the virus in the water then try to drink some in Broken Steel. Granted, yes, BS was FO3's saving throw for its phenomenally stupid original ending, but they do recognize it. I didn't think FO3's ending (at the purifier) was too bad. You can nobly sacrifice yourself, be an rear end in a top hat and order the hot chick to do it, or draw straws. Of course, what did suck is that your Super Mutant companion, who is IMMUNE TO RADIATION, can't go in and do it. As an additional punch in the balls, you can ask him to do it, but no, "It's your destiny." Gynovore fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Sep 4, 2012 |
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The change in his dialogue once you have Broken Steel is kind of funny. "Why yes, it would make sense for me to do it, for I am in fact immune to radiation! Be right back."
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Doesn't the ending still basically call you a pussy for doing that? Like yeah, sorry that I found a better alternative to me or Lyons killing ourselves.
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Gynovore posted:I didn't think FO3's ending (at the purifier) was too bad. You can nobly sacrifice yourself, be an rear end in a top hat and order the hot chick to do it, or draw straws. Not just the super mutant, radiation would heal the ghoul party member you can get too. So there's not just one person you could have but two that could do it without dying. That's even funnier.
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Fag Boy Jim posted:it's a funny little fact that basically all of the major DLC characters seem to have been designed to avoid horrible Oblivion facegen faces. Elijah talks through a static screen image, Graham's face is bandaged, Ulysses has a gas mask, and the Think Tank don't have faces. Seems like they went out of their way to mask it as much as possible. The first time you meet Dog/God the lighting in his cell obscures his dopey super mutant face, Christine doesn't talk at all until the very end, etc etc. Naky posted:Not just the super mutant, radiation would heal the ghoul party member you can get too. So there's not just one person you could have but two that could do it without dying. That's even funnier. I had the robot do it, so that's three. Literally half the available party members. It makes the ending slides of "the noble hero's sacrifice" even funnier when it's just some Mr. Handy in there.
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Grand Fromage posted:Go there and exhaust the conversation trees. He lays the whole thing out for you. I don't know if it matters how much the Legion likes you at the time, my first playthrough was Legion-aligned and my next one I didn't talk to him. I've tried that, but he always refuses to let me access the conversation menu with a "come back to me after you've done what I ordered" sound bit when there's still topics lefts uncovered. I'm at accepted if it makes any difference. Also Arcade is amazing, I don't know why but his line about finding a junkie who's snorted an entire ground Cazador poison sack always makes me chuckle Though its kind of  that one of his tag skills is Melee Weapons instead of Science. Researcher who can't melee my rear end.Naky posted:Not just the super mutant, radiation would heal the ghoul party member you can get too. So there's not just one person you could have but two that could do it without dying. That's even funnier. Really? Wow, that's a cringe inducing plot hole right there.
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What's also funny is that the ghoul basically is without a personality except for one thing: he will unquestioningly do anything for whoever holds his contract. But pre-Broken Steel, he would tell you to gently caress off if you asked him. This not only makes it a plothole, it literally goes against the exactly one trait said character is known to possess. Same with the Mr. Handy, but that thing had kind of a defiant personality in general so that made sense.
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 Thats perfect, thanks. Kinda wish it was for a different gun, though. Apparantly its either a 9mm or 10mm bullet. Was hoping to put it into a .22 holdout pistol. Then again, if I can't kill him with my dinnerbell then anything is going to be second choice. EDIT: Wolfsheim posted:Well considering it came out of a 9mm pistol... Ah, yeah I just looked it up. I see now, it really is perfect as it is
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Wolfsheim posted:What's also funny is that the ghoul basically is without a personality except for one thing: he will unquestioningly do anything for whoever holds his contract. But pre-Broken Steel, he would tell you to gently caress off if you asked him. This not only makes it a plothole, it literally goes against the exactly one trait said character is known to possess. I thought the point was he'd do anything in his contract for whoever had the contract. Fetching poo poo is not in his contract. Probably the least plot-holed of the three, but still really dumb.
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Captain Hair posted:
Well considering it came out of a 9mm pistol...
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I found a note in X-13 in OWB saying that the sonic emitter could disable force fields, do I need an upgrade somewhere for that or shoot a specific target because it doesn't seem to work on it's own.
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I'm not getting all "MY IMMERSION  " about it or anything but the "get the bullet out" trope has always bothered me kinda. If someone has been near-fatally shot, digging around in the wound for the bullet/shot/fragments is categorically one of the worst things you can do. I've never seen a TV series avoid it, either, even the most "serious" shows that I've seen do it.The sole exception I can think of is No Country For Old Men.
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Asehujiko posted:I found a note in X-13 in OWB saying that the sonic emitter could disable force fields, do I need an upgrade somewhere for that or shoot a specific target because it doesn't seem to work on it's own. I think you need to run the classroom obstacle course test once in order to get the force field upgrade. Once it works you should just be able to point and shoot to shut down a field.
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thehumandignity posted:I'm not getting all "MY IMMERSION I am an ignorant on those subjects, but my interest is piqued. What's a doctor supposed to do? Leave the bullet and/or fragments inside?
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thehumandignity posted:I'm not getting all "MY IMMERSION Maybe there was an exit wound instead of it ricocheting around in your cranium.
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