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I also suggest driving around the perimeter of the UK, really nice views. Scottish mountains are ultra pretty too.
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And a dog? Oh god please tell me the British aren't as depraved as the americans
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The Scotland business is all family related. That's why Stirling and Glasgow (not really either of those places, but tiny little villages outside of them that nobody's ever heard of). On the London stuff, I'll remember the zone thing. Is it beneficial to stay pretty close to the city center and be able to walk to things? So far I've mostly been looking at things that are in Kensington and Paddington, and while it's a little pricy, it's right close to a lot of things that I'm supposed to be getting to. Prices go down exponentially the further I seem to get from the city, but I don't want to have to commute an hour for a tour of Kew Gardens or what have you. I was thinking of renting a car to do the trip from London to Scotland. I like driving, and would like to maybe make a detour to Abingdon to see where my car was born.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:Look at these married chumps spending their lives with someone who loves them.   On the plus side, there's
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:
There are schools and certifications, but no legal requirements in the US. The best farriers I've met found the right person to apprentice under and learned from the bottom up while working. Though the "in" thing right now is to not use shoes. My trimmer is teaching me how to do at least maintenance trimming on my horses' hooves - if I didn't have a bad back, I'd do it all myself. Sorry for the derail.
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Yeah I know the basics of shoeing horses, but I've always gone shoeless on my own horses.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:Britgoonswithspoons, I need your assistance. I'm probably heading over to the UK for a couple of weeks next year (hopefully for a honeymoon) and the rough schedule is a week or so in London then some time up in Scotland split between Sterling and Glasgow. Having not been to London before what part of town should I be looking to stay in if I want to be close to subway transit so that I can get to cool things in the city? Any areas to avoid do to roving packs of dogs/chavs/tourists? I stayed in Shepherd's Bush last year and, although it was close to the city, it was a bit ghetto. If I went back to London I'd probably stay somewhere around Camden as I found most of the things I wanted to do / see were on that side of the city and I spent a lot of time on trains and buses traveling. Scientastic posted:Edit: And, when you're in London go to the Dali Universe on the South Bank. It's ace. It's closed 
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Mr. Wiggles posted:The Scotland business is all family related. That's why Stirling and Glasgow (not really either of those places, but tiny little villages outside of them that nobody's ever heard of). the drive between london and scotland is pretty miffy. it'd be too huge a detour, but steakandchips is right, the perimeter of the island is really where it's at, and you'd really regret missing it. I drove from Glasgow up the A82 to Inverness, and then down the A9 to Edinburgh and back to Glasgow, and I gotta say the mountains were loving amazing. by far better than anything I did in glasgow or edinburgh, which mainly consisted of eating battered haggis, and very narrowly avoiding sleeping with a pretty marginally attractive, very drunk edinburghian I met outside some club after she quite literally just grabbed my dick during casual conversation so yeah have fun in scotland! (wales is even more stunning, and few people seem to consider it - you should at least give it a thought!)
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mindphlux posted:(wales is even more stunning, and few people seem to consider it - you should at least give it a thought!) Yes this
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Randomity posted:Yes this What mindphlux said, Wales is gorgeous and much less touristy (that said we got great weather there.) I'd also be letting down the family if I didn't mention Cornwall, my time there was some of my favorite hanging out of my entire Europe trip. I figured Glasgow was a family thing but don't go to Scotland without going to Edinburgh. As for London if you're there for just a week I'd stay somewhere central, spring for an oystercard and not worry about things. Being able to bounce all over zone 1 without worrying about fares and whatnot was great. We stayed right by the Earl's Court tube station and it was pretty painless going anywhere in the city proper, most of the time we walked out then tubed around once we were tired.
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Sep 21, 2012 02:13
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Being married is worth it for the tax breaks.
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Sep 21, 2012 02:14
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It's worth it for the kids definitely. Few things make me laugh harder.
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Chemmy posted:Being married is worth it for the tax breaks. Man, if we could only get tax breaks. It's OK. He takes away my snotty tissues when I have a cold. I fix him something to eat when he /looks/ hungry. He knows how to interpret my lapses in the English language (there are times when I can't figure out what a word is, and will gesture wildly, or grunt, and he gets it). I know not to bother asking him to line the rubbish bin, because he throws the bag at the bin, and thinks it's lined. He never asks me to carry anything heavy. In fact, when we travel, he'll carry his backpack /and/ mine, and still offer to take the subway home. I fully support every shift his career has taken over the years, and am not really fussed about money. As long as he's doing something he loves, that gives him joy, that makes him happy, I'll be happy to back him up 100%. We don't fight. We sit down and calmly and rationally discuss things so that we can find solutions together. I told him from day one that I'm on /his/ side, and that any time he forgets that, he should try to get me into an argument, and watch me defend his position heartily. It would be nice to have our marriage recognised, and eligible for the benefits, but the way I see it, six years of waking up to the most handsome man in the world, who still loves to get into bed with me every night is a huge benefit whose value I can never underestimate.
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That crap is coming to an end dino, thankfully. Even old white jerks like me are vehemently pro LGBTBBQ.
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dino. posted:Man, if we could only get tax breaks. Sorry man, since I'm not a monster I wish you could get tax breaks and recognition too.
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Sep 21, 2012 03:14
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Give it time, give it time. That said, my condolences that our evil socialist Muslim government won't recognize your marriage for tax purposes.
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Sep 21, 2012 03:27
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I don't remember getting a tax break this past year. We must be doing this married thing wrong.
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We got no tax breaks when we married. It's a goddamn myth I think. Also, married 9+ years, together 12+. It's awesome.
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Chef De Cuisinart posted:I don't remember getting a tax break this past year. We must be doing this married thing wrong. Depends on a lot of things. If you both work and you're middle class you really don't see much difference. One-income families see a much bigger benefit.
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Or if one of you is a cook and the other is a grad student. Together over five years, married for over three, and I'm still amazed that he sticks by me and takes care of me.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:On the London stuff, I'll remember the zone thing. Is it beneficial to stay pretty close to the city center and be able to walk to things? So far I've mostly been looking at things that are in Kensington and Paddington, and while it's a little pricy, it's right close to a lot of things that I'm supposed to be getting to. Prices go down exponentially the further I seem to get from the city, but I don't want to have to commute an hour for a tour of Kew Gardens or what have you. Kensington and Paddington are pretty pricey areas though most of Zone 1 is. Go out a little way into Zone 2 like Camden, Shepherds Bush, Southwalk or East ish around London Bridge up to Bethnel Green. The density of bus routes means you'll never have to wait long for transport even if you're not next to a tube stop. Get a zone 1+2 weekly travel card and you're sorted. The overground train system is much improved compared to a few years ago. By the end of this year it'll link up at Clapham Junction and be a complete circle around London. There's also a bike hire system for getting about in the centre. £1 per day base and trips < 30 mins free. If you don't want to burn a whole day (or two) driving to Scotland you can get a train up the East coast which is pretty nice. I love driving but I haven't owned a car in 5 years now. pr0k posted:Married 8 years now, together 10. It's good, it's hard, it's good, it's great, it sucks, it's good. It's just kind of like that. Beats
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mindphlux posted:and very narrowly avoiding sleeping with a pretty marginally attractive, very drunk edinburghian I met outside some club after she quite literally just grabbed my dick during casual conversation This is how we say hello. Having lived in Edinburgh for the last 15 years (previously from Falkirk if anyone knows where that is, unlikely) I would say it's a great place to visit. Though if you're looking for a good restaurant I can give you some tips, like avoid the Plumed Horse, Michelin stars do not ensure great restaurants. You can also visit our distilleries which are becoming massively more tourist friendly. I would say get the Train/Plane up to Scotland. The drive is not very interesting and you might have to stop at a Little Chef.
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If you visit Edinburgh, go to Ondine or Le Mouton Noir.
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pr0k posted:Depends on a lot of things. If you both work and you're middle class you really don't see much difference. One-income families see a much bigger benefit. Writing these words: "I want to be taxed under [Norwegian] Tax Class 2 [Sole provider]" on my tax form made me about $2200 richer. 
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Scientastic posted:If you visit Edinburgh, go to Ondine or Le Mouton Noir. Ondine is pretty nice especially if you like Oysters. I would recommend 21212 or Prestonfield House.
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I would strongly advise staying near a tube station (within say ten minute walk). The extra time of waiting for bus and then crawling through traffic is not worth it. Also, avoid Camden, it's a hellhole. Southwark is pretty cool, as are the east areas sweat mentioned like Bethnal Green. Kensington is pricey both to stay and to eat as it is a very swanky area, but has the most spectacular museums. Not much to do/see around Paddington, which is not all that pleasant. Avoid the areas around Kings Cross and Euston. Feel free to PM me with some potential locations.
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sweat poteto posted:I got stealth married in July this year and it is like this - starting as we mean to continue. 
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pr0k posted:Hey man, congrats. I know, right? Why didn't you say anything, Tater? We're happy for you.
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Sjurygg posted:Writing these words: "I want to be taxed under [Norwegian] Tax Class 2 [Sole provider]" on my tax form made me about $2200 richer. it has improved though, but basically the lesson on the Danish system is that you shouldn't work if the wages are less than USD5k per month, and from there it is only an advantage of around 50 cents per USD above that due to the tax break. We were seriously considering having her drop work, and just rely on my income. These days, if I lose my job, she can handle the income side of the family, and I can loaf around the house, and provide elaborate sexual favors in return.
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Thanks for the UK advice everyone. I will be asking more as the trip gets closer. So anyway our demo got put up on a soundcloud apparently. It's just on a four track in our rehearsal room, but whatev. http://soundcloud.com/andres-palacios-5/tracks
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In America if the two of you make comparable money there can be a pretty significant marriage penalty. It's heavily regressive, too.
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dino. posted:but the way I see it, six years of waking up to the most handsome man in the world, who still loves to get into bed with me every night is a huge benefit whose value I can never underestimate.  Why do you think I bought a full-length mirror to hang over the bed. Helloooooo handsome.
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Happy Hat posted:These days, if I lose my job, she can handle the income side of the family, and I can loaf around the house, and provide elaborate sexual favors in return. You wouldn't happen to be hiring for another wife, would you?
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dino. posted:It would be nice to have our marriage recognised, and eligible for the benefits, but the way I see it, six years of waking up to the most handsome man in the world, who still loves to get into bed with me every night is a huge benefit whose value I can never underestimate. You two are an absolutely adorable couple. 
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Gourd of Taste posted:In America if the two of you make comparable money there can be a pretty significant marriage penalty. It's heavily regressive, too. tell me more, I'm sort of curious/afraid about this.
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mindphlux posted:tell me more, I'm sort of curious/afraid about this. It's not a big deal, you just have to claim that both of you identify as the same gender, and you can bypass the marriage penalty.
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:It's not a big deal, you just have to claim that both of you identify as the same gender, and you can bypass the marriage penalty. He's in the souf though he'll get lynched.
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mindphlux posted:tell me more, I'm sort of curious/afraid about this. A lot of it stems from the "Married Filing Joint" brackets not being exactly double the "Single" when you get to the 25% bracket and above. If you look at the chart below you can see that a single person making $85,000 would be in the 25% bracket but if a married couple are each making that, making the total $170,000, they would be pushed up into the 28% bracket. So they are essentially being taxed more than they would if they had filed as single with the same amount of income.  Of course there is a flip-side to this. If you make, say, $100,000 but your spouse makes very little or stays home, you would be pulled down into the 25% bracket for "Married Filing Jointly" as opposed to being in the 28% bracket if you had filed as "single". Again, it can really be situation-dependent so talk to a professional if you are concerned. Edit: I should add that there can be advantages to every situation but never, I mean never, file 'Married Filing Separate" unless a lawyer tells you to.
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