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Maxwell Lord posted:I honestly don't WANT physical media to go away. Network outages or slowdowns are more common in my experience than plain old power outages, and it's nice to know that even if my BR player's connection to Netflix WI is acting weird, I can still watch one of the many, many discs I actually own. I live in urban area and I'm still stuck with lovely internet, both speed and connection wise, so yeah, I agree with this guy.
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Farecoal posted:I live in urban area and I'm still stuck with lovely internet, both speed and connection wise, so yeah, I agree with this guy. Physical media won't go away until a large part of the world's population has a stable and speedy connection to the internet (and streaming services pops up).I'm pretty sure that America's got several areas where you could drive to the store, get a DVD or Bluray, drive home, have a nice dinner and plan a movie night the day after, before a movie would have downloaded.
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Regarding the physical media thing, there's also a fair number of people who just don't trust computers at all. Essentially viewing them as these strange and mysterious boxes that can fail at any moment for any reason, or no reason at all. This attitude was partially helped by earlier incarnations of Windows being unstable pieces of poo poo. So the idea that something they paid for only exists on this quantum failure box and could be lost forever is enough to make them pause. And then there's also people who just refuse to adopt new technology if they don't have to. Up until a few months ago, my parents still watched TV on a wood-paneled set that's two years older than I am (I'm in my 20s) because the idea of buying a new thing when the old thing still works is surreal backwards moon-logic to them. For actual content  AOL Explorer. Almost all the major ISPs of the time had something like this, with their chat program, browser windows, mail client and everything else contained in a single program. You could customize your home page, choosing if you wanted to see world news, sports, games, or whatever in different sections. AOL was particularly crafty about it though, selling a "bring your own connection" service where you could use their lovely software (for a monthly fee) with whatever internet service you had. With Google having so many different services that all play off each other or literally everything integrating with Facebook, I wouldn't be surprised if some company's kicking around the idea of bringing this sort of thing back. Acute Grill has a new favorite as of 20:24 on Sep 23, 2012 |
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Kalos posted:With Google having so many different services that all play off each other or literally everything integrating with Facebook, I wouldn't be surprised if some company's kicking around the idea of bringing this sort of thing back. Well we do still have all those toolbars that random freewares want you to install. The ones people usually install because they assume they're somehow necessary to run whatever they're installing.
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RillAkBea posted:Well we do still have all those toolbars that random freewares want you to install. The ones people usually install because they assume they're somehow necessary to run whatever they're installing. Gah! Toolbars. My nieces wreak havoc on my parents' computer (they're in their 70s and rarely use it) by installing toolbars. I went to their house one day last year and found that the upper third of the screen was chock full of toolbars. It took me over two hours to clean the damned thing. I recently discovered that my old AOL email address was still active. I haven't used it since 2000.
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Kalos posted:AOL was particularly crafty about it though, selling a "bring your own connection" service where you could use their lovely software (for a monthly fee) with whatever internet service you had. What do you mean "was"? I know people that still pay for this poo poo, no matter how much I try to push them away from it.
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lenitic posted:Teletext was another ancient technology; its high point was beaming a picture of an ejaculating penis through the airwaves into every British household, excused by the caption "Turner the Worm being sick" Hey now, it's still active in Norway. My maternal grandmother use it often, and I've spent many a day just browsing through it. Sure, it's 15-20 years ago, but hey. If I'm bored and the TV is on, I fire up the old teletext and surf through it. Read the news, see if any of the old games are still active (they usually aren't) et cetera.
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Kalos posted:For actual content quote:AOL Explorer. Almost all the major ISPs of the time had something like this, with their chat program, browser windows, mail client and everything else contained in a single program. You could customize your home page, choosing if you wanted to see world news, sports, games, or whatever in different sections. AOL was particularly crafty about it though, selling a "bring your own connection" service where you could use their lovely software (for a monthly fee) with whatever internet service you had.
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Most people I know who still use and pay for AOL are just doing it to keep their @aol.com email address that all their friends know.
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mystes posted:Also present in this image: index color modes. Thankfully we don't have to deal with that anymore. Have you viewed an animated GIF lately?
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Sep 24, 2012 01:58
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m2pt5 posted:What do you mean "was"? I know people that still pay for this poo poo, no matter how much I try to push them away from it. My mother-in-law finally moved from AOL to DSL last year because she couldn't get wi-fi to her iPad via dialup  She & the wife still use AOL email addresses though. Same with a guy at work, just general computer-lazy people that know what they need & never care to learn further.
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oldskool posted:My mother-in-law finally moved from AOL to DSL last year because she couldn't get wi-fi to her iPad via dialup You totally can, actually. I set up a crafty system back when my grandpa used dialup to use his computer like a gateway and allow me to connect via Wifi so I didn't have to kick him off the computer when I was at his house. It was kinda surreal, connecting via wifi and then loading a page in like 5 minutes. Actually that brings up another obsolete thing - for years, up until 2003 I think, my dad was so cheap that we were only allowed to use the "free" internet services, you know, like NetZero used to be - you'd get 10 hours (wow!) free per month and then it would cut you off. It would plaster a giant banner ad at the top of your screen (not just your browser) while it was on, and it went down very often, but I still managed to see my first ever porn on that drat connection 
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:You totally can, actually. I set up a crafty system back when my grandpa used dialup to use his computer like a gateway and allow me to connect via Wifi so I didn't have to kick him off the computer when I was at his house. It was kinda surreal, connecting via wifi and then loading a page in like 5 minutes. I remember using that to connect with my Dreamcast, until they made it necessary to use their software and it kicked you after five minutes.
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Sep 24, 2012 02:27
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:You totally can, actually. I set up a crafty system back when my grandpa used dialup to use his computer like a gateway and allow me to connect via Wifi so I didn't have to kick him off the computer when I was at his house. It was kinda surreal, connecting via wifi and then loading a page in like 5 minutes. I remember NetZero. There was also FunCow, with a much less intrusive banner ad, but they shut down after I used them for a while. I saw a NetZero ad on TV a few years ago, advertising dial-up "almost as fast as broadband!".
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Sep 24, 2012 02:31
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Landerig posted:Have you viewed an animated GIF lately? GIF images aren't that annoying now since they can use whichever 256 colors they want, so with dithering pretty much anything can be displayed with acceptable quality (although why are we still using GIF files?). It was much worse when you had to worry about the total number of colors being displayed in the screen at one time. The days of the "web safe colors" were truly a headache.
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mystes posted:although why are we still using GIF files? Because IE6 doesn't support transparency in PNGs and people still loving use IE6 (Actually, all the IE's up to and including 8 have some sort of bug related to PNGs, though all the ones above 6 are less seriously debilitating). Also other motion-image formats (there's an extension of PNG called APNG, for instance) are poorly supported everywhere. I work for a company that makes software for multinational banks and supercorporations, and we have to make sure all our software works on at least IE6 and XP (running at 1024x768 of course!) because the bigger a company is the less likely they are to upgrade regularly, I've found. We also get tech support requests from people who are running fuckmothering Windows ME sometimes but at least we don't still have to officially support that. Shame Boy has a new favorite as of 03:16 on Sep 24, 2012 |
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Sep 24, 2012 03:03
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mystes posted:I meant actual indexed color video modes. Oh yeah. 640x480 @256 colors. Even better if the program required 256 colors to run properly and looked weird in High or True color mode. But yeah, GIF's really need to die out. Increases in bandwidth have compensated for their awful compression, and you can do wonders with color dithering, but you're still dealing with an image format that's over 20 years old.
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Sep 24, 2012 04:12
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I work for a company that makes software for multinational banks and supercorporations, and we have to make sure all our software works on at least IE6 and XP (running at 1024x768 of course!) because the bigger a company is the less likely they are to upgrade regularly, I've found. A major bank I used to work at was using Windows 2000 until about a year ago, and moved to Windows 7 despite having IE6-requiring backend websites. They ended up having to get a massive site license for VMware thinapp so they could run IE6 in Windows 7.
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univbee posted:A major bank I used to work at was using Windows 2000 until about a year ago, and moved to Windows 7 despite having IE6-requiring backend websites. They ended up having to get a massive site license for VMware thinapp so they could run IE6 in Windows 7. We've got a bank that demands that our software works on IE8 64 bit mode with 1024x768 monitors ("IT HAS TO WORK ON ALL THE IE'S DAMMIT!"). You can't even use 64-bit mode unless you specifically dig it up, and it's utterly terrible and buggy as poo poo. Our login page's javascript, which works fine in every other browser (even the weird ones like Konqueror) managed to cause such a bad memory excursion in it as to lock the whole computer up, requiring a hard-reset It may still be in common use, but IE as a whole probably counts as successfully failed technology 
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I'm not sure if you can really call it "failed" since the IE team is desperately trying to play catchup and it's still widely used in corporate settings. It was only a few years ago that I remember keeping and IE shortcut handy because the student services site required it to even be able to log in. As far as I know, no major services have stopped developing for IE and slap on a "You need Firefox to run this site" label instead. It's bad technology, yeah, but only obsolete or failed in our dreams. 
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TShields posted:Same with those old 90's computer desks that have the tall cabinet for the PC tower (that I don't actually have my tower in), the sliding shelf for the keyboard (which is cluttered with books and papers since nobody on the planet could type comfortably as low as this one is), and a raised platform for a single monitor. I just had a significant monitor upgrade, so now I have a passable backup monitor that I could use to run a dual-screen setup at home, but the old hand-me-down desk I'm using just isn't built for it. You mean one of these?  Yeah my giant tower doesn't fit in it but it's the perfect size for my subwoofer thingy.
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Kalos posted:I'm not sure if you can really call it "failed" since the IE team is desperately trying to play catchup and it's still widely used in corporate settings. It was only a few years ago that I remember keeping and IE shortcut handy because the student services site required it to even be able to log in. As far as I know, no major services have stopped developing for IE and slap on a "You need Firefox to run this site" label instead. I'm actually genuinely surprised. I started going to classes again for the first time since high school, and nothing requires IE. My math course requires an online module called MyMathLab(I'm sure plenty of people are familiar with it) and the website has a message saying "Internet Explorer 7 is no longer a supported browser."
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There are some sites that will either block you, or actually charge you an "Internet Explorer Tax" because it's just too drat expensive to spend time developing for IE6 and IE7 when the customer could spend five minutes and just upgrade the drat thing. Sure you can't really do that for corporate software but it's a neat idea for stores.
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I wouldn't call those 90s desks. It's only recently that non-students have warmed up to the idea of having no desktop PC at all. I still have this set up, though I've upgraded everything since the photo, including a 1920x1080 monitor that is as wide as the desk. My new color laser printer won't fit where it's supposed to, so I have a paper shredder there instead.  As long as I can see the TV I prefer this set up to laptop only. I only use my laptop at work, or when my wife is hogging the PC. We bought the desk in 2005 and are very happy with it.
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univbee posted:A major bank I used to work at was using Windows 2000 until about a year ago, and moved to Windows 7 despite having IE6-requiring backend websites. They ended up having to get a massive site license for VMware thinapp so they could run IE6 in Windows 7. If they upgraded to Win7 Pro, they could have just used the built-in Windows XP Mode and not had to buy that massive site license.
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Ensign Expendable posted:I saw a NetZero ad on TV a few years ago, advertising dial-up "almost as fast as broadband!". well, that can be true with some of the broadband speeds people are getting in remote areas. Frankston posted:You mean one of these? At least the "wooden" versions of these desks are somewhat sturdy, really cheap people got the aluminum versions that wobbled whenever you looked at it funny. DONT TOUCH THE PC has a new favorite as of 07:25 on Sep 24, 2012 |
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m2pt5 posted:If they upgraded to Win7 Pro, they could have just used the built-in Windows XP Mode and not had to buy that massive site license. Yes, but that's a bit more complicated due to the back-end XP VM and has some wonkiness because of that. Not much wonkiness, but some. Also, this was pre-SP1 and you needed a specific feature on your processor for XP Mode to work; it's possible that they didn't want this extra compatibility requirement (although I think all their computers supported it). VMware ThinApp is ordinarily expensive as gently caress, but because this was for tens of thousands of workstations I think it was doable for them.
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I still don't understand those desks. You get to choose between a keyboard that's too low to type on comfortably or a monitor that's jacked clear up in the air. I've never had a problem with using a desk that's just a single, flat surface. Isn't the rule that the top of your monitor's viewable area should be level with your eyes? I remember that a lot of those 90s desks also had a little door you could close in front of the computer when not in use. I guess in case you were ashamed of owning a computer. A FUCKIN CANARY!! has a new favorite as of 13:36 on Sep 24, 2012 |
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I have an aluminum computer desk that I still use today, but it's a beast. I actually used it as a TV stand for my 100 pound hd CRT for the longest time.
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Mr_Person posted:I still don't understand those desks. You get to choose between a keyboard that's too low to type on comfortably or a monitor that's jacked clear up in the air. I've never had a problem with using a desk that's just a single, flat surface. Isn't the rule A million times this. I hate keyboard trays, and I don't get why people use them. Not only are they too low, but they are never sturdy enough and wobble every time you type. I bought a new desk a few months ago, and it was so loving hard finding one that both: 1) Had no keyboard tray. 2) Had drawers (and not a "pc compartment.") So many desks that met condition 1 were essentially just tables. What good is a desk if it doesn't have drawers to put all my crap in!? 
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Mr_Person posted:I remember that a lot of those 90s desks also had a little door you could close in front of the computer when not in use. I guess in case you were ashamed of owning a computer. Oh man I had one of those for years, until someone bumped the door closed while the computer was running and I didn't notice it and went to play a game. It overheated, started making those great crazy polygon things you get when your graphics card's transistors are freaking out and returning errors, and then promptly shut down. I took the door completely off the desk with a screwdriver after that.
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I had to jack my desk way up in order to have my monitor high enough to get it to my eyeline (after putting it on a riser, to boot) and now I really need a keyboard tray, but I want a quality one, so I'm keeping my eyes open for a good deal. Anyone actually Like keyboard trays and can recommend a good one for $100 or less?
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Thulsa Doom posted:I don't think I've seen anyone mention mini casette recorders yet. For some reason, it was a fad when I was in middle school to carry around a tape recorder that used teeny little tapes to record. I used to have a whole stack of them filled with my addled 13 year old dictation, but I have no idea where they went. They were supplanted by digital versions that don't need a tape, and I haven't seen anyone using anything remotely like a personal recorder in years. My parents have a couple. My mother still uses one these days at work. Taping medical journals or whatever she does with them.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Oh man I had one of those for years, until someone bumped the door closed while the computer was running and I didn't notice it and went to play a game. It overheated, started making those great crazy polygon things you get when your graphics card's transistors are freaking out and returning errors, and then promptly shut down. Yeah, mine doesn't have a door but that space for the PC tower doesn't exactly promote great ventilation. So I just run my PC with the side panels off, and also to make plugging and unplugging drives a bit easier. But hey it was a free desk and it has wheels, so yeah.
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0toShifty posted:Most people I know who still use and pay for AOL are just doing it to keep their @aol.com email address that all their friends know. You can actually keep your @aol.com address even if you cancel the service.  I got my grandparents onto real DSL and GMail and have it set up so that their AOL mail is fetched from GMail and they don't notice any difference.They haven't paid for AOL (or had the client installed) for about three years now. Good times.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I work for a company that makes software for multinational banks and supercorporations, and we have to make sure all our software works on at least IE6 and XP (running at 1024x768 of course!) because the bigger a company is the less likely they are to upgrade regularly, I've found. We also get tech support requests from people who are running fuckmothering Windows ME sometimes but at least we don't still have to officially support that. Within that last 12 months IE6 use has dropped below 1% in North America, Europe and Australia. Asians, however, seem to love it as 21% of China and 4.7% of Japan still use it for some reason. Thankfully it's now dead enough that even Youtube and Google have generally stopped supporting it. Parallel Paraplegic posted:Actually that brings up another obsolete thing - for years, up until 2003 I think, my dad was so cheap that we were only allowed to use the "free" internet services, you know, like NetZero used to be - you'd get 10 hours (wow!) free per month and then it would cut you off. It would plaster a giant banner ad at the top of your screen (not just your browser) while it was on, and it went down very often, but I still managed to see my first ever porn on that drat connection Last year the old lady next door asked if I could take a look at her computer because it was acting funny. In the year 2011 she was still running Windows 98 and used Netzero or Juno or one of those free services that had the advertisement bar to get online. Not only is the service even shittier and slower than I remember, but that loving ad bar takes up something like 20% of the 800x600 screen (60hz of course). That's still not as bad as some people I know who pay for both a second land-line and dial-up service even though they live in areas where cable and DSL have been available for at least a decade and both offer some sort of plan for $20/month.
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The_Franz posted:Asians, however, seem to love it as 21% of China and 4.7% of Japan still use it for some reason. China is largely due to rampant piracy of the FCKGW and similar versions of Windows XP that Service Packs (and by extension newer versions of IE) won't install to. Vista and newer are not only harder to pirate, but are near-impossible to hack in a way that the end user is unaware the software is pirated, so they haven't seen the spread of XP. Japanese PCs pretty much never die, so the previous story about the old lady still running Windows 98 is a lot more common (my homestay mother was still rocking Windows 98 in 2008, and of the schools where I taught had a computer lab full of Windows ME machines in 2006). Hell, people would do such weird upgrades to their PCs that Windows Vista was available on CD-ROM for those without DVD-capable drives (as in stores had it in stock and you didn't have to make a special exchange with Microsoft).
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DrBouvenstein posted:So many desks that met condition 1 were essentially just tables. What good is a desk if it doesn't have drawers to put all my crap in!? You just get a mini filing cabinet and put it under your desk like every office worker ever. 
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DrBouvenstein posted:A million times this. I hate keyboard trays, and I don't get why people use them. Not only are they too low, but they are never sturdy enough and wobble every time you type. Should have gotten yourself a 1950s-ish office desk. These things can support the weight of six elephants, are fully functional with plentiful drawer space, can be found at most thrift stores and on Craigslist for incredibly cheap, and will be the only remnants of humans ever existing long after we're gone.  For added coolness, you also should have gotten yourself a sturdy chair from a similar era. gently caress these plastic chairs they sell at Office Max and the like; these chairs will also be found by a distant future race of beings along with the desk and wonder where they came from.  I'm currently sitting in a chair from the 1970s that is all heavy and polished stainless steel (including wheels) with cushy brown frizzy fabric. It may not be modern, but I'll be damned if it isn't like new still, is incredibly strong and sturdy, and comfortable as hell. I've also got another chair similar to the picture that is all beat to hell and back that I keep outside for lounging and working on projects and cars, but it still rolls like a new chair and is equally comfortable. I love my old rear end chairs.
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