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Morbid Florist posted:Grave's really the only reason I want to go since it could be their last tour of the states. 6 songs? Yeah, and none of them involved 'Extremely Rotten Flesh' or 'Christ(i)sanity'. If it makes you feel better, I know you really liked their new album, and the songs from it are really awesome when played live. They also played 'Eroded', which I was very happy about.
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Turk February posted:Vadimvon though was so god drat boring it was painful. Just half-assed death/black metal, and the only reason why I think they are on this tour is because one of the guys in that band did all the artwork for Morbid Angel's website. They used a drum machine. I think that about sums it up.
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Turk February posted:Yeah, and none of them involved 'Extremely Rotten Flesh' or 'Christ(i)sanity'. If it makes you feel better, I know you really liked their new album, and the songs from it are really awesome when played live. They also played 'Eroded', which I was very happy about. I'll still go but to think I won't hear their old, great poo poo is just  I cannot WAIT to hear Perimortem and Encountering The Divine from the new one though. And to hopefully get a Grave shirt in my size...
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Xombie posted:They used a drum machine. I think that about sums it up. I honestly didn't mind that they used a drum machine since I like a lot of one-man bands. It's just that even if they had a drummer they still would have been ridiculously boring. The vocals had no bite to them, the riffs sounded like they were all over the place and the pacing of their songs just seemed off. There was a lot wrong with their set that a drummer wouldn't have been able to fix.
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What are some more bands like Mgla and Taake that just do that kind of formulaic 90s norwegian stuff, but do it well? In both Mgla and Taake's case I really like the production, too. These days it feels like everybody wants to be DsO and all I want is to get drunk and listen to songs about forests and moons and fogs.
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I'm going to skip the Morbid Angel show in NYC in a few days. I've already seen them play a few sets full of classic stuff, and they only play two from the new album. I want to hear Radikult and I Am Morbid, but I guess those songs are less popular than Dark Funeral. Plenty of good shows coming to Connecticut soon: Napalm Death/Vektor, Converge, Integrity, and Witch Mountain+Castle on Halloween.
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Sep 24, 2012 23:46
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I remember someone posted Feral a while back. Dug that poo poo. Sniffed around Youtube. Found a new track called "Inhumation Ceremony" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzeXOLxc9xs And no one else probably gives a poo poo, but Skalmold put out a track from their new album, Born Loka. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02sroZqq12I. ETA: Chorus parts are fuckin' epic.
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:What are some more bands like Mgla and Taake that just do that kind of formulaic 90s norwegian stuff, but do it well? In both Mgla and Taake's case I really like the production, too. Horna and Sargeist are both in that vein, and both share principal songwriter Shatraug. Sargeist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7DMl_wsKPo Horna: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJnadNLgx8 I'd love to hear any other suggestions as these are four of my favorite black metal bands.
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:What are some more bands like Mgla and Taake that just do that kind of formulaic 90s norwegian stuff, but do it well? In both Mgla and Taake's case I really like the production, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbhs1LqwvjY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gBIhOjJmAc
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I'm a few weeks late on the Dead End Kings discussion, but what the hell is Jonas Renkse's obsession with passing/failing tests?
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:What are some more bands like Mgla and Taake that just do that kind of formulaic 90s norwegian stuff, but do it well? In both Mgla and Taake's case I really like the production, too. Craft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfKsP4hp13I Hades Archer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_cOY5o91x8 Can't go wrong with Szron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rw07W3gKwc
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Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qnZ-lhvgTA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkg36AIcy1Y And while not strictly speaking formulaic 90s norwegian style stuff, still very good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us_MaJgxb04
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:What are some more bands like Mgla and Taake that just do that kind of formulaic 90s norwegian stuff, but do it well? In both Mgla and Taake's case I really like the production, too. Not the song I'd have picked from this album but it's all I can find on youtube. The Mark of Death album rules. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApiStBDfdYc
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Is there no album stream somewhere for new Enslaved? Comes out in Europe today, so I expected something since every band does that now. edit: Oh I guess it comes out Friday KingKapalone fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Sep 25, 2012 |
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Sep 25, 2012 17:50
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Morbid Florist posted:Not the song I'd have picked from this album but it's all I can find on youtube. The Mark of Death album rules. This is loving nasty, just picked up the cd for $5.10.
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Revocation Released a new EP via Scion A/V titled "Teratogenesis" You can get it here: http://www.scionav.com/collection/1083/Revocation---Teratogenisis
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:What are some more bands like Mgla and Taake that just do that kind of formulaic 90s norwegian stuff, but do it well? In both Mgla and Taake's case I really like the production, too. When it comes to dead ringers for Transilvanian Hunger and Under a Funeral Moon, Germany's Graven springs immediately to mind: "When Funeral Winds Arise" After leaving that band, guitarist/vocalist Vargsang went on to form, uh, Vargsang, which has some slight melodic differences but is still pretty much following the same path: "And Death Calls from Beyond" There's also Urgehal. Their older albums' production jobs really just kind of limp along, but I love the music and atmosphere regardless. Here's their entire Massive Terrestrial Strike album.
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Anus Dei posted:When it comes to dead ringers for Transilvanian Hunger and Under a Funeral Moon, Germany's Graven springs immediately to mind: I like this quite a bit. LOVE bands that still rock the solid state Peavey amps
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Morbid Florist posted:I like this quite a bit. LOVE bands that still rock the solid state Peavey amps They're freaking awesome. I bought a Peavey Special 212 many years ago when I was first getting started on guitar and I haven't found an amp worth the upgrade since then. I paid $249 and I can even plug in a 4x12 cab without additional amplification, and it's pretty much the perfect crunch tone, and of course a sick black metal tone  even a decent clean tone too. And while I'm talking about check out Rahu's recent album, it's probably the best Finnish black metal since the Verge/Blood Red Fog split from 2010. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEQ08MVRyF0
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Heaps of good suggestions, thanks guys. I haven't had any new to listen to in ages.
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I was told I should post my album in here, so I am. I just released a new death metal album as a birthday present for my wife. All proceeds go to charity, more specifically to no-kill animal shelters. Everyone that has heard it so far has loved it, and it's only 5 bucks. So save the kitties, and get some death metal at the same time. It's sound is heavily influenced from Cannibal Corpse and Aborted. Here 'tis: http://onlyashadowremains.bandcamp.com/album/premeditated Thanks!
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Anus Dei posted:When it comes to dead ringers for Transilvanian Hunger and Under a Funeral Moon, Germany's Graven springs immediately to mind: Everything old is new again. Back in my day, these guys would have been trashed for being 3rd rate rip offs. Now they're a breath of fresh air from all the assholes that have hosed the genre up by throwing saxophone solos or other random and silly things into their music. It's tough being a crusty old metal elitist. 02-6611-0142-1 posted:What are some more bands like Mgla and Taake that just do that kind of formulaic 90s norwegian stuff, but do it well? In both Mgla and Taake's case I really like the production, too. Avenger
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bloodpuke posted:I was told I should post my album in here, so I am. This reminds me of Chimaira if they actually played death metal.
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RHTITE posted:Everything old is new again. Back in my day, these guys would have been trashed for being 3rd rate rip offs. Now they're a breath of fresh air from all the assholes that have hosed the genre up by throwing saxophone solos or other random and silly things into their music. It's tough being a crusty old metal elitist. Say what you will, but leave Ihsahn out of it 
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RHTITE posted:It's tough being a crusty old metal elitist. NEVER. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tVKRs4kfqc EDIT: I believe we were going over 90s style black? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=L7BUy5ZRqNw Morbid Florist fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Sep 27, 2012 |
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Say what you will, but leave Ihsahn out of it I agree- at least he's trying to do something new, whereas most bands aren't trying to do anything...exciting. Or interesting. When I finally do get around to getting new tunes, which isn't often lately, I'm almost always kind of let down. I don't need the 5,000th clone of old school Morbid Angel. It might be decent, but I already own (and love) Morbid Angel CDs. thepitgoddess fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Sep 28, 2012 |
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The new Enslaved record is something else, i think it's their best yet.
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Oh wow. RIITIIR is good. It's really, really loving good. I'd heard the 1st and 3rd track already, but hearing it all in the context of an album is phenomenal. I'm taking a long trip tomorrow, and I can't wait to hear how this sounds on my new car stereo.
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In lovely news, Simon Oberender of the progressive metal band Beyond the Bridge passed away today  I was just getting into them (they kick rear end)as my friends said some awesome things about them when they saw them at Progpower this year. loving terrible
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thepitgoddess posted:I agree- at least he's trying to do something new, whereas most bands aren't trying to do anything...exciting. Or interesting. Is just going for something new good enough, though? There was a time when Ihsahn was helping to create something new, while also advancing an entire genre to unexplored heights. Now, he throws in saxophone solos just because. There has to be some kind of road map, or it almost always ends up being something that takes away from the music. TheIllestVillain posted:The new Enslaved record is something else, i think it's their best yet. Not possible in a world in which Vikingligr Veldi exists.
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RHTITE posted:Is just going for something new good enough, though? There was a time when Ihsahn was helping to create something new, while also advancing an entire genre to unexplored heights. Now, he throws in saxophone solos just because. There has to be some kind of road map, or it almost always ends up being something that takes away from the music. Hate to plug myself, but I asked him about the saxophone earlier this year and he made it clear this was something he'd been thinking about for a while, not just a random thing haphazardly thrown in. Even regardless of that, I think he and people like him who're exploring the boundaries of the genre should at least be commended for seeing what else is out there rather than aping 20 year old bands endlessly (and I think the sax makes that track). Also, it's pretty far from 1994 and I appreciate that he recognizes that instead of trying to crank out another "I Am The Black Wizards" (which would be pretty meaningless 18 years later if he did). You might think a particular idea doesn't work, but at least something interesting is offered from a failed experiment, and I'd rather see experiments than bands aping Darkthrone for all time; that doesn't strike me as the future of anything. I agree that without careful planning it's easy to lose sight of making good music in favor of experimentalism for the sake of itself, but that doesn't mean it's not a good idea to try. RHTITE posted:Not possible in a world in which Vikingligr Veldi exists.
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I think the main reason people oppose experimenting in death/black metal is that while (for the most part) the band doing it is very good at the metal bit they usually aren't terribly good at whatever they're experimenting with.
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I think there are two opposing views backlashing onto each other. Experimentation is great, because obviously the world would be a loving stale place without it, but, in metal in particular, I do often see this kind of blind excitement about gimmickery, e.g. 'omgz lyrics about DINOSAURS and they've got an OBOE and CHAMBER-POP BREAKDOWNS'. I think metal is a genre which encompasses, for want of a better word, 'wackiness', more than many others, which encourages dross like Alestorm etc to rise to the surface. People seem to squeal with delight whenever someone mashes metal with [x] lyrical theme or [y] unusual instrument/style, and that can be kind of grating. I'd put myself on the more traditional end of the scale, and I do think that a lot of the time people are putting a saxophone solo over their Darkthrone tribute because they can't really think of anything else to do - not because it actually adds to the music organically.
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I would like to take this moment to thank/blame John Zorn for giving us the "sax lol random" dig on metal adventurism. When I first heard Ihsahn was incorporating that instrument into his music, I didn't think of it as particularly innovative. Hadn't Sear Bliss been using a tuba? Having said that, and being a fellow wizened metal grump whose first two purchased albums were Abigail and Scream Bloody Gore when they were originally appearing in the local mall's Camelot Records, I am also one of those who think the genre has been getting better and more interesting over time. They get shat on daily, but I maintain Deathspell Omega is making the most inventive metal I've heard since having my entire musical outlook wondrously inverted by mid-nineties Norwegian black. (Mayhem did this from inside the movement -- I think Ordo ad Chao blows the doors off all their previous works.) Glorior Belli has been a nice surprise, too. And bands like Lost Soul and Sargeist have proven you don't have to be innovative to keep this music crackling. RHTITE posted:Everything old is new again. Back in my day, these guys would have been trashed for being 3rd rate rip offs. When was your day? That Graven came out a decade ago. Let's be charitable and say "2nd rate rip-offs." This bloated and unnecessary post has been a roundabout way of wanting to open, or return to, a discussion about some of the machinations of this music we all love -- and whose machinations we also occasionally love to loathe. What expectations do you have about where metal may be heading? What elements do you miss? What would you like to see more of? I'm probably one of the few who felt optimistic about that short-lived Akkerhaugen Studios attempt at blending a superficial sense of futurism into death/black metal: Zyklon and Myrkskog's debut albums, and, to an extent, Emperor's IX Equilibrium. Obviously that petered out; those first two bands quickly scurried back to retrograde death metal for their subsequent releases. I absolutely loathe the whole "Cascadian black metal" thing, however. There's a weird lethargy in it that makes it sounds like the bands aren't even trying.
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If that Morbid Angel and Grave tour comes anywhere near you, go see it. Seriously.
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TheIllestVillain posted:The new Enslaved record is something else, i think it's their best yet. I'd say it's possibly their last album we'll be talking about in a metal thread It has its moments but they're close to losing me at this point edit: ok maybe that's a bit heavy handed. it's definitely not black metal anymore and these clean choruses are getting really boring with their limited range and INSISTENCE on having them in every song. Morbid Florist fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Sep 28, 2012 |
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Bruce Boxliker posted:Hate to plug myself, but I asked him about the saxophone earlier this year and he made it clear this was something he'd been thinking about for a while, not just a random thing haphazardly thrown in. I say that about the saxophone thing because it sounds like a haphazard thing that is just thrown in for kicks. It never seems to add anything to the music other than "Oh hey is that a... neat.". You've misunderstood my point about experimenting in a genre. I don't want In The Nightside Eclipse over and over forever (not that anyone, including Emperor, could match it even once anyway), I just don't want random, goofy poo poo intruding on my true cult necro black metal. To give a concrete example of my point, I'll say that Beherit's Celebrate The Dead is the best Black Metal release of 2012. Far as your point goes about Enslaved: Vikingligr Veldi is one of the most experimental albums ever. So much so that they pushed the boundaries so far that I can't recall having heard even one band trying to follow it in the 20 years since it's been out. The experimentation is far more subtle and streamlined, but they managed to outpace pretty much everyone when it comes to expanding the genre. And thank god nobody has tried to follow it. I don't think I could deal with the things a bunch of jokers would do with it. I wouldn't say that nobody will ever top it, but it's been 20 years, and few have even come close so maybe it's just one of those albums. Everything can be bested, it just takes someone doing it so I don't hold my breath for it. Anus Dei posted:When was your day? That Graven came out a decade ago. Let's be charitable and say "2nd rate rip-offs." I would just want less bands that sound like a hobby rather than a passion. There's nothing wrong with having a hobby band, just have the good manners to keep it to yourself and your friends instead of adding to the white noise out there. True believers always make the best stuff. Kill all the hipsters and genre tourists.
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RHTITE posted:You've misunderstood my point about experimenting in a genre. I don't want In The Nightside Eclipse over and over forever (not that anyone, including Emperor, could match it even once anyway), I just don't want random, goofy poo poo intruding on my true cult necro black metal. To give a concrete example of my point, I'll say that Beherit's Celebrate The Dead is the best Black Metal release of 2012. I need to listen to Nightside Eclipse to get that Beherit song out of my memory. That was a new millenium update of Burzum's Casio keyboard days
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