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SubponticatePoster posted:If there's any cosmic justice, they'll keep getting desynched while someone rocket glitches the whole match. Or get killed when a Rocket Trooper double-shots them from around a corner.
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Maybe I'll invite one of them, play as a Vanguard without hosting, get desynced and be really obnoxious about how that's impossible because it was patched out months ago.
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Sep 29, 2012 03:39
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New glitch tonight; for some reason the cooldown semicircles appeared when I entered the lobby.
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Sep 29, 2012 07:20
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It's amazing how many points you wrack up as a vorcha sentinel, even without really noticing it. I don't feel like I'm doing any better but my score is a lot higher. I'm also glad I'm not the only dork who put their forum ID number instead of their username into that "who's playing" list in the OP. Whoops.
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Sep 29, 2012 07:27
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I just played a gold match for the first time, and holy drat it took a lot of bullets to put anything down. I guess that problem is solved by really high level weapon mods and stuff? edit: what is better for my turian soldier, the phaeston rifle I have been using so far, or the falcon I just got? Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Sep 29, 2012 |
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Sep 29, 2012 07:39
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Samurai Sanders posted:I just played a gold match for the first time, and holy drat it took a lot of bullets to put anything down. I guess that problem is solved by really high level weapon mods and stuff? Personally I find that it's more about well chosen powers and lining up combos with others. Maybe it's because I rely on power heavy classes because I rarely get the super cool high level weapons in packs, but you can survive with something like a Justicar using an Avenger.
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Sep 29, 2012 07:47
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Samurai Sanders posted:I just played a gold match for the first time, and holy drat it took a lot of bullets to put anything down. I guess that problem is solved by really high level weapon mods and stuff? Can you post your manifest? We can give suggestions based on that, but jesus, a Phaeston or a Falcon for gold is... not exactly ideal.
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Sep 29, 2012 08:44
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Two Finger posted:Can you post your manifest? We can give suggestions based on that, but jesus, a Phaeston or a Falcon for gold is... not exactly ideal. Both of those guns are perfectly fine for gold depending on the class or setup but not if he's only just got level 1. Sanders, if you have low level weapons and want to play gold, I would recommend you start off with power-heavy classes using light weapons until you can level up your stuff. Playing gold will earn you cash quick enough, though the gold pool is so diluted now I feel bad for people just now trying to get good weapons.
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Sep 29, 2012 09:50
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I think farming on Gold is a good way to learn at least what your general level of survivability is with a class, even though it doesn't accurately reflect on your ability to kill things in a non-farm context.
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Sep 29, 2012 09:55
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Both of those guns are perfectly fine for gold depending on the class or setup but not if he's only just got level 1. Sanders, if you have low level weapons and want to play gold, I would recommend you start off with power-heavy classes using light weapons until you can level up your stuff. Playing gold will earn you cash quick enough, though the gold pool is so diluted now I feel bad for people just now trying to get good weapons. Anyway I was using a turian soldier and spamming marksman as much as I could, but drat I was emptying that rifle fast with relatively few dead enemies to show for it. edit: I can't show that manifest or whatever since apparently my ps3 account is no longer connected to the EA website, even though I'm pretty sure it was before. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Sep 29, 2012 |
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Sep 29, 2012 09:56
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Just reconnect it? (= If you want to play with someone of your skill level hit me up sometime (rick9109). Don't let my 485 N7 level fool you, I'm still really bad at this game.
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Sep 29, 2012 12:22
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I find that virtually any weapon is viable on gold with the right set-up. Lately I've been playing gold as a Batarian soldier with a vindicator as my main weapon and I do alright. Not well enough to carry a lovely team but well enough to pull my weight with a decent one.
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Sep 29, 2012 12:40
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Rick posted:Just reconnect it? (= The last time I think I did anything with it is when I played DA:O though, so who knows what happened between now and then.
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Sep 29, 2012 21:03
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Sending you an invite, Samurai. Can set up a private match and see what you've got. VVV 
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Sep 29, 2012 21:07
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Oh, I fixed it...but I have no idea why. My manifest is here. I don't have time to play right now though, need to fix my toilet. edit: Is that a reaction to the manifest, or fixing my toilet? I just need a new flapper...I think, all in the tank anyway, nothing to do with the bowl. It's an old loving toilet. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Sep 29, 2012 |
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Sep 29, 2012 21:15
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Samurai Sanders posted:Oh, I fixed it...but I have no idea why. My manifest is here. I don't have time to play right now though, need to fix my toilet. With what you have, the Geth Plasma Shotgun with the shredder mod (don't use the choke w/ the GPS), w/ the Salarian Engineer or either Turian would probably be your best bet on Gold if you wanted to play a gun-centric character. If you wanted to play power-based, use your human sentinel and hit enemies with a warp and then a throw for biotic explosions, and only equip the Predator. I'd grab the GPS and farm Firebase White / Geth / Gold and keep buying Premium Spectre packs until you get better guns. If you set up where the other players do (in the control room downstairs) you can periodically put up the decoy and use Energy Drain to keep your shields reloaded.
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Sep 29, 2012 22:07
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PCjr sidecar posted:the Geth Plasma Shotgun with the shredder mod E: Looking at your manifest, you should probably try a bit of W/G/G farming to get better unlocks. Concentrate on power-focused builds: SalEng, HSent and HEng (in that order) are all quite safe bets that can easily contribute in a useful way to farming. Note that how high your score is at the end of a round =/= your usefulness. Especially Decoy can make a big difference if you have hotshot teammates that feel hunkering down behind the console is beneath them. What weapon you pick is pretty much an afterthought - your only concern regarding that should be getting low enough cooldowns. For weapon based builds the GPS is IMO by far your best shot at the moment. Put it on one of the Turians, or the HSoldier, and it should be usable enough. Though generally speaking on Gold you need to use consumables if you want to make effective use of a weapon (with a few exceptions); particularly ARs like the Phaeston (high-rof, low-medium damage) really need them to be workable. And in my personal opinion, weapon based builds are more difficult to pull off on consoles in general anyway, as you simply don't have the speed and accuracy which can make a big difference in the effectiveness of certain builds/weapons. So if you're still getting to grips with Gold, stick to Power builds (and cover) until you get a feel for what you can and can't do. SirViver fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Sep 29, 2012 |
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Sep 29, 2012 22:43
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There's no reason to ever have any mod combo except ammo and barrel on the GPS
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Elotana posted:There's no reason to ever have any mod combo except ammo and barrel on the GPS
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Ravenfood posted:Bayonet? It could be argued that if you're picking the GPS you're not really looking to be in melee range that often, or at least a different gun would be better for it. But at the very least you've got to make an exception for a cosplaying melee gethinf.
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I went to that gold match to farm and it wasn't very much fun, I'm just going to keep playing as usual (mostly on silver), I will take your advice for weapons I already have though. Another question is though, why do I sometimes see people with an N-7 rank in the seven thousands and stuff on silver matches? What are they getting out of doing silver matches that wouldn't be better served by gold or platinum?
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Sep 30, 2012 00:08
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Because N7 rank is essentially meaningless and only reflects how many levels you've earned between all your characters since you started playing. Those guys probably aren't good enough to continuously play gold without a gimmick or are taking a relaxing stroll through silver for fun. Silver is a good enough difficulty to play on to get used to the game. Take your baby steps in bronze to learn what you're doing, and silver to get a feel for dealing with crowds/the boss critters/how your weapons and powers need to be used together. Gold ramps up those things significantly but with enough experience it shouldn't be so bad. I also recommend going with a human engineer or sentinel as your first class to level up since they don't need weaponry at all to be great. I used the sentinel first and took all the biotic explosion upgrades in warp/throw so adding huge chunks of damage to the team's overall output was pretty easy.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Another question is though, why do I sometimes see people with an N-7 rank in the seven thousands and stuff on silver matches? What are they getting out of doing silver matches that wouldn't be better served by gold or platinum? Fun? Not everyone enjoys the same level of challenge, and even if they did, not everyone has the same level of skills, so the level of personal challenge won't always equal difficulty either. Personally I play all four difficulties at different times for different reasons. My N7 may "only" be at 600, but that's just because I haven't bothered promoting all the time.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Because N7 rank is essentially meaningless and only reflects how many levels you've earned between all your characters since you started playing. Silver is a good enough difficulty to play on to get used to the game. Take your baby steps in bronze to learn what you're doing, and silver to get a feel for dealing with crowds/the boss critters/how your weapons and powers need to be used together. Gold ramps up those things significantly but with enough experience it shouldn't be so bad. I also recommend going with a human engineer or sentinel as your first class to level up since they don't need weaponry at all to be great. I used the sentinel first and took all the biotic explosion upgrades in warp/throw so adding huge chunks of damage to the team's overall output was pretty easy.
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Samurai Sanders posted:But I mean, your N7 rank is at least an indirect measure of how good your gear is too, right? I see people running around in silver games with the widow and the particle rifle and the harrier and stuff, and wondering why they are basically slumming it. Nope. I've seen people with 1000+ N7 rankings but with poo poo gear and 120s with maxed ultra rares. N7 rating literally means nothing, except 120 signifying that you've likely levelled each class to 20.
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Sep 30, 2012 00:23
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Samurai Sanders posted:But I mean, your N7 rank is at least an indirect measure of how good your gear is too, right? quote:I see people running around in silver games with the widow and the particle rifle and the harrier and stuff, and wondering why they are basically slumming it.
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Felinoid posted:It could be argued that if you're picking the GPS you're not really looking to be in melee range that often, or at least a different gun would be better for it. But at the very least you've got to make an exception for a cosplaying melee gethinf. I've used it on my melee Krogan Sentinel. It's pretty good since you can charge it while running up to a group blast the meanest looking one and headbutt the rest. Also it's good for hacks and stuff when you do need the long range. Samurai Sanders posted:But I mean, your N7 rank is at least an indirect measure of how good your gear is too, right? I see people running around in silver games with the widow and the particle rifle and the harrier and stuff, and wondering why they are basically slumming it. N7 rating is a measure of how often you've promoted. People who promote tend to play at low levels a lot and they're not necessarily comfortably playing gold at low levels. You're Phaeston is sucking rear end on gold because you don't have the AR piercing mod unlocked so you're losing 50 dmg of each shot to armor.
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Another reason is that some people enjoy the game, play often and promote to respec their characters and have high-level rares or ultra rares, but they may just not be very good at the game. That's fine, not everybody can or should be running platinum into the ground with ease. Those people just play and promote more often than others. Edit:^^^ If memory serves and the weapon hasn't change too much with balance patches since last I checked, 50 damage from each shot on the phaeston would leave it at or near minimum damage a shot. 5 damage a hit, even with a full auto weapon, doesn't do anything noticeable against enemies with several thousand health/barrier. Dr. Red Ranger fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Sep 30, 2012 |
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Sep 30, 2012 00:37
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Yeah, I guess I fundamentally misunderstood how this game is balanced, I figured after long enough playing you'd have gear and weapons that would make the lower difficulty levels boringly easy, but I guess not.
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Sep 30, 2012 00:37
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It's really just a personal taste thing once your manifest gets more fleshed out. I like gold well enough and prefer it with a good group, but silver is fine with randoms because it's just enough challenge to keep me thinking without the instant-failure potential that gold has against disorganized players. The payout difference sucks though.
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Sep 30, 2012 00:42
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Lagomorphic posted:I've used it on my melee Krogan Sentinel. It's pretty good since you can charge it while running up to a group blast the meanest looking one and headbutt the rest. Also it's good for hacks and stuff when you do need the long range. Graal. The thing's accurate enough to mailslot a guardian from any range you can find in the game. Dunno if I'd call it better or worse, just that there's other options. Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, I guess I fundamentally misunderstood how this game is balanced, I figured after long enough playing you'd have gear and weapons that would make the lower difficulty levels boringly easy, but I guess not. Again, that's a matter of perspective. Different skill levels and challenge preferences, etc. As well as special circumstances. One of my most fond memories of this game was when I talked my friends into playing a "demo" match. Only characters and guns found in the demo, on Ghost/Cerberus/Bronze. We spent the match absolutely destroying the enemy while aping the kinds of things we would have said back then. "Oh god, it's a single Phantom! Run for your life!" I don't think we stopped laughing the entire freaking time.
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Felinoid posted:Graal. The thing's accurate enough to mailslot a guardian from any range you can find in the game. Dunno if I'd call it better or worse, just that there's other options. I never use the Graal because I don't usually host and I found it to be pretty awful when you get lag, or at least it was. Did they fix that? I really should just host a few games and give it a shot sometime.
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Lagomorphic posted:I never use the Graal because I don't usually host and I found it to be pretty awful when you get lag, or at least it was. Did they fix that? I really should just host a few games and give it a shot sometime. Yeah, it can suck with unstable lag, since you have to stop going for headshots, and even stable lag you have to adjust every game for (so the first couple waves you won't do so well, but eh). But when you're hosting, or have a stunning ability on a quick cooldown, that thing is a loving beast. Besides, the GPS doesn't make heads explode. 
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, I guess I fundamentally misunderstood how this game is balanced, I figured after long enough playing you'd have gear and weapons that would make the lower difficulty levels boringly easy, but I guess not. And sometimes after you've had one too many synch enemas it's nice to go back to silver or bronze and 1-shot everything but bosses (and 3 shot those) with a maxed out weapon or loadout.
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Is there any point to using a Graal when you have a Crusader?
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Mr Dog posted:Is there any point to using a Graal when you have a Crusader? Probably because it's lighter and does twice as much damage. Though I've never seen more than four actually rendered, the thing apparently spews twelve spikes per shot according to the guys who dug into the guns, and it's always done the kind of damage that would support that given the per-spike numbers from the balance changes. To say nothing of what it does to armor with its innate armor piercing. I may only have a Crusader IV, but the damage floor on that gun is almost 600, and it still does about half the damage per shot that the Graal does.
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I think you're confusing the damage when the Graal is charged with the base damage. The Graal does 660 per shot, but charging will double that to 1320. Even stuff like the bonus ammo damage will double. An uncharged Graal shot won't kill a bronze cannibal, so it's certainly not doing 12x 110 damage.
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Dilb posted:I think you're confusing the damage when the Graal is charged with the base damage. The Graal does 660 per shot, but charging will double that to 1320. Even stuff like the bonus ammo damage will double. An uncharged Graal shot won't kill a bronze cannibal, so it's certainly not doing 12x 110 damage. I'd played with the Graal a lot, and while I guess this is just speculation from observation, I think what you're seeing here is an odd charging behaviour. Other guns when you charge them do more damage, but I think what the Graal does is that it instead narrows the spread on the spikes. On the surface it appears the same because it's the same result most of the time: some of the spikes will miss (likely the ones it doesn't bother rendering because Bioware loves their lack of transparency) and it'll do less damage. But if you try it out on something big and beefy like a Brute or Atlas where you simply can't miss from close range, it looks like the first charged shot does about the same as the follow-up uncharged shots. Of course, even if this is all wrong and you're right, the Graal would still be doing slightly more damage than the Crusader uncharged (unless you happen to have a Crusader VIII or something), and twice as much charged. The Crusader meanwhile cannot be charged, so it's stuck at 600-700 while the Graal averages out around 1K even if you assume half and half.
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The crusader has the advantage that it can quickly pop heads at range, since the graal needs to charge up in order to narrow the choke. That's it. That's the only reason to take the crusader over the graal ever.
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