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theflyingorc posted:The gamespot review calls it a "caricature" as well. Which I think is the point? Do people not honestly think that RE5 was filled with parody? If you think RE5 was funny in any way, you need to play 4RE. It, unlike RE5, is both funny and a fun game; both qualities lacking in 5.
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theflyingorc posted:The gamespot review calls it a "caricature" as well. Which I think is the point? Do people not honestly think that RE5 was filled with parody? You can't parody something just by doing that thing. Especially in games.
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Oct 1, 2012 22:25
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Bonaventure posted:I love QTEs. I'm the problem. No brother. WE are the problem.   Is there any announced "in-the-works" dlc for RE6? Like how RE5 had Lost in Nightmares and Desperate Escape?
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Oct 1, 2012 22:27
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Monster w21 Faces posted:You can't parody something just by doing that thing. Especially in games. Yes you can. It's called a "self-parody", intentional or not.
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Oct 1, 2012 22:37
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Glad people are enjoying the full game. I replayed the demo a bit and enjoyed it more than the dry run so I've got it all preordered for tomorrow. Looking forward to some goofy rear end Resident Evil schlock.
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Oct 1, 2012 22:38
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Monster w21 Faces posted:You can't parody something just by doing that thing. Especially in games. I do think there's a meritorious complaint to be made that, particularly in Leon and Ada's games, there's a sense that they're doing stuff just for the sake of the cheap shout-out. Leon does have a couple of lines that basically exist to hammer home the idea that "we made you guys another Resident Evil 2, have you noticed yet?!" I can see how that'd irritate some people, particularly if they aren't particularly invested in the series, and I expect Yahtzee to zero in on that. It really does highlight how the franchise has seemed to be adrift since Shinji Mikami left Capcom, but RE6's better scenarios provide reasons to be cautiously optimistic.
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Oct 1, 2012 22:39
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Pickled Kittens posted:If you think RE5 was funny in any way, you need to play 4RE. It, unlike RE5, is both funny and a fun game; both qualities lacking in 5. RE5 heralded the return of Barry Burton. You are therefore wrong.
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Pickled Kittens posted:If you think RE5 was funny in any way, you need to play 4RE. It, unlike RE5, is both funny and a fun game; both qualities lacking in 5. Actually RE5 is basically one of my favorite games of all time and is really good, although it suffers if you don't play it co-op (play it co-op). edit: Yes, you can parody a thing by doing it, as long as your gameplay is still fun. While some reviewers seem to think that this is not true of RE6, the spread on reviews is so large that I'll have to play it myself to see. edit: Also, on second thought, what the hell was funny about RE4? theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Oct 1, 2012 |
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Oct 1, 2012 22:58
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Revitalized posted:No brother. WE are the problem. People need to stop acting like there's just the one guy who loves QTEs and everyone else disagrees with them. I've loved them ever since Shenmue-- it's one way to remove that 'why does my character do badass stuff in cutscenes that I can't do in gameplay' feeling that's so prevalent in games like Devil May Cry.
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theflyingorc posted:edit: Also, on second thought, what the hell was funny about RE4? TCH THAT'S A MOUTHFUL HASTA LUEGO YOUR RIGHT HAND COMES OFF? ...STORY OF MY LIFE I mean, Saddler was always laughing. Or at least chuckling smugly.
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Oct 1, 2012 23:02
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I just hope PC players don't get screwed over with DLC like 5. I'm not sure if I should hold out for it or just get it for 360.
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In It For The Tank posted:TCH THAT'S A MOUTHFUL Also, enormous stone robot midgets that serve no purpose but to chase you then fall off a chasm.
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theflyingorc posted:Actually RE5 is basically one of my favorite games of all time and is really good, although it suffers if you don't play it co-op (play it co-op). Leon's love of terrible puns, the fact that at one point you outrun a giant statue of a dwarf dressed like Napoleon, stuff like that. RE4 was way more obvious about how tongue-in-cheek it was; it had a tone more akin to a Sci-Fi Channel Original Movie and embraces its B-movieness, whereas I felt like RE5 was trying a bit too hard to have its cake and eat it too.
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For me, I can't really hate RE 5 at all since it had Albert "Complete Global Saturation" Wesker.
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In It For The Tank posted:TCH THAT'S A MOUTHFUL Ah, so bad dialogue THEN was funny, but NOW its bad. Got it. (not blaming you specifically)
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Crappy Jack posted:Leon's love of terrible puns, the fact that at one point you outrun a giant statue of a dwarf dressed like Napoleon, stuff like that. RE4 was way more obvious about how tongue-in-cheek it was; it had a tone more akin to a Sci-Fi Channel Original Movie and embraces its B-movieness, whereas I felt like RE5 was trying a bit too hard to have its cake and eat it too. RE5, I think, tried to focus increasingly hard on the protagonists as straight men. It had immensely ridiculous situations but the protagonists were (seemingly intentionally) as stonefaced about them as you could get. The marketing campaign for it was awful but y'know, marketing campaign.
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PunkBoy posted:For me, I can't really hate RE 5 at all since it had Albert "Complete Global Saturation" Wesker. Your fate HINGES on this fight! *kicks Chris through a door*
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Crappy Jack posted:Leon's love of terrible puns, the fact that at one point you outrun a giant statue of a dwarf dressed like Napoleon, stuff like that. RE4 was way more obvious about how tongue-in-cheek it was; it had a tone more akin to a Sci-Fi Channel Original Movie and embraces its B-movieness, whereas I felt like RE5 was trying a bit too hard to have its cake and eat it too. Boulder punching in a volcano.
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You can attribute all of RE5's charm to Wesker, basically. The game is fun to play, but when you've got a villain chewing as much scenery as Wesker, how can you hate a game so much? Hell, there's even the parts of the game where it's nuts that Wesker isn't involved, like Meowth Guy or Chris punching a boulder while standing only a few inches above boiling lava and let's not forget the satellite laser that just HAPPENS to be lying around. EDIT: Although I've heard people say they don't like RE5 because it RUINED Resident Evil's story... which I don't understand, because Capcom games have always had mediocre stories.
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ImpAtom posted:RE5, I think, tried to focus increasingly hard on the protagonists as straight men. It had immensely ridiculous situations but the protagonists were (seemingly intentionally) as stonefaced about them as you could get. I never thought of it like this, but yeah, that's a very good point. I'm not about to argue that the scenarios in RE5 weren't just as crazy, but something about the way Chris and Sheva played to it made it feel a little lacking. Kinda in the same sense that Die Hard would be a totally different movie if John McClane weren't John McClane, or if Beverly Hills Cop were a generic action movie starring Stallone like it was originally planned.
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Can anybody who lurks Japanese boards weigh in on how Japan has received RE's change in genre over the years? We all certainly know how the reaction has been in the West, but I literally have no clue as to how the domestic audience thinks of this series now, and especially this new game.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Although I've heard people say they don't like RE5 because it RUINED Resident Evil's story... which I don't understand, because Capcom games have always had mediocre stories. It's the same reason why some people will defend Final Fantasy VII's story until they're blue in the face. There are a lot of people who have a lot of affection for the franchise's plot, as silly and shaky as it is, and a lot of it's down to nostalgia and childhood exposure. The characters seem to have latched onto a lot of people's imaginations in a way that I'm not sure Capcom either understands or knows what to do with. I'd imagine with most of those people you mention, when they say "it ruined the story," what they mean is "Wesker died." That slicked-back douchecannon commands a greater share of fangirl adulation than I care to consciously acknowledge.
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Wanderer posted:I'd imagine with most of those people you mention, when they say "it ruined the story," what they mean is "Wesker died." That slicked-back douchecannon commands a greater share of fangirl adulation than I care to consciously acknowledge. Because that's what I assume happened.
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Wanderer posted:I'd imagine with most of those people you mention, when they say "it ruined the story," what they mean is "Wesker died." That slicked-back douchecannon commands a greater share of fangirl adulation than I care to consciously acknowledge. I don't know, after all of the times when they've faked out his defeat or resurrected him, it seems kinda cheating to actually kill him. It's in defiance of all logic, but then so is the rest of Resident Evil a lot of the time.
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Teen Hero Greg posted:I don't know, after all of the times when they've faked out his defeat or resurrected him, it seems kinda cheating to actually kill him. It's in defiance of all logic, but then so is the rest of Resident Evil a lot of the time. Once each?
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I'm probably just gonna have to put this one in my Gamefly queue rather than purchase it because the reviews are all the hell over the place on this one. Maybe it'll be awesome, maybe it won't be. I don't even know.
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Wanderer posted:Once each? I suppose so, but it feels like way more with all his random cameos and stuff. It's like Capcom could have let the original back from the dead bit go, because I mean the rest of Code Veronica seems to have been comfortably forgotten about by most everyone, but no, now he's going to appear in every Resident Evil game to remind you that in the original, he had his head cut off or whatever but made a miracle recovery.
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My problem with RE5 stemmed from the gameplay. The story is fine, if a bit too blockbuster-y and not as unintentionally cheesy as the previous ones but the forced co-op ruined any scary atmosphere, if you had a friend who stopped playing you lost all your items and were basically hosed in addition to the AI being completely retarded. Inventory system was terrible as well, especially since 4's attache case was so nice and almost a puzzle within it self, now you have an egg taking up the same amount of space a shotgun would. Hell even the boulder punch, while awesome, was awful gameplay wise because the QTE felt like it took forever (and lord forbid you played as Sheva instead with the climbing QTE).
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For what it's worth, I agree with the reviewers' complaints about the aiming system - it's loving terrible, UNLESS you switch the aiming mode from 'crosshair' to 'aiming laser'. I found accuracy 100x easier with that change. The crosshairs are just awful, but I can't put my finger on why. The occasional driving controls are a bit unresponsive, too, but everything else is absolutely great, in my opinion. One other thing I've JUST figured out: the difficulty of QTEs from zombie grabs is tied directly to your stamina bar. No stamina = bullshit QTE. Full stamina = easy QTE. edit: Full stamina + Combat Gauge Booster Mk 2 = impossible to fail QTEs, if you can save up the XP to get it. ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Question; I'm aware it's a heavy spoiler but I have to know about Ada's campaign. It's.... pretty gross. Only in Chapter 4, though, the rest is fine. Little Mac posted:Is Sheva mentioned at all? Nope. Good Lord Fisher! fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Oct 2, 2012 |
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The tweaks that goons mentioned earlier in this thread made me change my mind from never touching this game, to preordering the Anthology edition last night in a painkiller-induced haze. October is hate-loving my wallet.
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Policenaut posted:Your fate HINGES on this fight! *kicks Chris through a door* It wasn't the game that was dumb, it was me. I was the silly goose who couldn't see true beauty.
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Policenaut posted:Your fate HINGES on this fight! *kicks Chris through a door* "Do you get all your lines from Comic Book villains?" is probably the most non-straight line said by Chris in the whole game.
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"To judge us? Do you get all of your ideas from comic books?" Just the stepping stone I need...! *Pummels a boulder* "All that matters in this world is superior DEE EN AYY!!!" Don't forget Jill crawling on walls and hissing like a cat. Ausmund fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Oct 2, 2012 |
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The funniest thing in the world is missing the QTE in the cargo plane and letting Wesker snap Chris' neck. Thanks, Sheva.
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"I'm so sick of your BULLSHIT" is pretty great.
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theflyingorc posted:Ah, so bad dialogue THEN was funny, but NOW its bad. Got it. Leon was not meant to be a cool character, you're supposed to be laughing at his godawful comebacks, not with them.
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Momomo posted:Leon was not meant to be a cool character, you're supposed to be laughing at his godawful comebacks, not with them. I still think Leon is a cool character. The Degeneration movie only confirmed it 
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Haha, yes. The best two lines of RE5 are in the same cutscene. 
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