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Super Aggro Crag posted:http://www.insideline.com/ford/focus/2013/2013-ford-focus-st-track-test.html Road & Track did better in the new issue: 0-60 in 5.9 s and 14.6@95.2 in the 1/4 mile. The story indicates that's with stability control on. I'll get mine someday. 
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NOTinuyasha posted:Allow me to kill it for you: zero to sixty in eleven seconds. Slower then a Prius. At one point do modern cars fall into dangerously slow? 14?
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So apparently the IS-F is most certainly not the cushy mushy Japanese Buick some people seem to think it is. From the Car and Driver review:quote:But its ride and handling simply didn’t deliver. It would hobbyhorse down uneven pavement and batter occupants in a straight line but roll excessively in corners. For 2011, Lexus addressed these concerns in a big way, changing or retuning every major suspension component. ... The ride is still rough but far more livable...
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Xguard86 posted:At one point do modern cars fall into dangerously slow? 14?
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Cocoa Crispies posted:What's the Fortwo run? 12.8 seconds to 60 edit: It would be quicker to haul the smart car up a 7% grade in the back of a base model V6 f-150 than it would be to run the quarter mile with it on flat ground. Powershift fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Oct 5, 2012 |
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Oct 5, 2012 04:39
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Powershift posted:12.8 seconds to 60 Did Smart think about things like highway/interstate merging when they came up with the Fortwo? Because I travel on I-10 almost daily and if you can't merge in just a second or two, you're more than likely to be in a wreck.
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Devyl posted:Did Smart think about things like highway/interstate merging when they came up with the Fortwo? Because I travel on I-10 almost daily and if you can't merge in just a second or two, you're more than likely to be in a wreck. Probably not. It was designed for European roads, and is only sold in north America as a fashion accessory.
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Oct 5, 2012 05:23
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Endless Mike posted:Road & Track did better in the new issue: 0-60 in 5.9 s and 14.6@95.2 in the 1/4 mile. The story indicates that's with stability control on. I cancelled mine and bought a 3-er instead. Ford keeps sending me stuff though:
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Powershift posted:12.8 seconds to 60 I think it's safe to say that any car posting respectable 1/4 mile times as their 0-60 time is dangerous.
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Oct 5, 2012 10:52
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discstickers posted:I cancelled mine and bought a 3-er instead. 
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NOTinuyasha posted:Has anyone calling Lexus 'the next Buick' seen Acura's lineup lately? Downmarket, rebadged FWD poo poo from end to end. The ILX has a Civic powertrain and cloth seats. The successor to the Integra/RSX has a Civic powertrain? And cloth seats? Will wonders never cease!
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grover posted:That's about the same as the loving 68hp Fiat 500 I had for a rental once in Italy. To say it's dangerously slow is an understatement. Suice on the highways, and utterly incapable of maintaining speed up even shallow grades, even with the engine revving in the peak of the powerband. I haven't driven a car that anemic since I had a 1994 Cavalier with the biggest pause between the 2-3 shift that I have ever seen in my life but I never had an issue merging onto I-75 in Michigan where the majority of drivers are doing 10 over the posted 75mph speed limit.
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Oct 5, 2012 15:25
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Faerunner posted:The successor to the Integra/RSX has a Civic powertrain? And cloth seats? The Integra and RSX were never offered with base-Civic SOHC engines. The Integra had engines that were not available at all in the Civic. The RSX base engine was only available in the Civic Si of the time. Acura has been offering a straight-up Civic rebadge in Canda for a long time though, first the 1.7EL and then the CSX.
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PBCrunch posted:The Integra and RSX were never offered with base-Civic SOHC engines. Good news, neither is the ILX.
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CRZ Mugen RZ   Only 30 more hp than the regular one. Thankfully I'll never see one on the road since they're only doing 300 of them in Japan. Also is that the normal shark fin radio antenna on the top or some sort of tumor? Looks weird at this angle.
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Oct 5, 2012 21:17
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It would actually look pretty good without that huge gently caress off wing.
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Oct 5, 2012 21:30
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At the very least, minus the wing, it's better looking than any other CR-Z I've ever seen. But you know lipstick, pig, etc.
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Oct 5, 2012 21:34
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Damnit Nissan - Why do you think only emerging countrys want to buy super cheap fun-to-drive modes of transport? I WANT A BRAND NEW DATSUN. random blog posted:Boy did Nissan put the cross-hairs directly on their collective heads after their Datsun announcement. If you missed it Nissan is relaunching the Datsun brand to build Über cheap vehicles. How cheap? Some say as low as $3,000 – but that’s iffy at best. Others hint that a (still amazingly cheap) price-tag that’s about half of the Nissan Versa is what we should expect. http://www.tflcar.com/2012/10/what-to-expect-from-nissans-datsun-revival/
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tobu posted:Damnit Nissan - Why do you think only emerging countrys want to buy super cheap fun-to-drive modes of transport? I wonder if they still have any of the manufacturing equipment from eons past that they could leverage for this. VW managed to keep the original Type II in production well into the nineties by shipping the manufacturing equipment to emerging markets and selling the cars there. I too would love to pick up an new 510.
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Q_res posted:Good news, neither is the ILX. Yeah, it has the R20 as opposed to the Civic's R18. That said, the 6MT model has the same power train as the Civic Si but doesn't get the Si's limited slip, which seems rather odd to me.
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PBCrunch posted:The Integra and RSX were never offered with base-Civic SOHC engines. The Integra had engines that were not available at all in the Civic. The RSX base engine was only available in the Civic Si of the time. The market positioning was always strange for those cars in North America. The Acura Integra was just a rebadge of the Honda Integra which was never supposed to be an upmarket car at all, you could get it with the SOHC D-series in is home market. Likewise the TSX is just an Accord elsewhere, a Mazda 6 or similar competitor nothing more
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tobu posted:I WANT A BRAND NEW DATSUN. The Nails concept is awesome and I would buy it in a heartbeat. quote:Nissan Nails Concept: Now THIS is a cool concept. So many of us have been jonesing for the tiny pickup trucks of yore. This could be a full-on winner. Built a few years back purely as a concept, the Nissan Nails Concept truck has a removable rear section that was held in place with buttons and hooks – like a nylon tent. The cargo bed is bed big enough for a pair of mountain bikes or a large drum kit. The floor is flat and low throughout the whole truck. Easily damaged sections of the Nails Concept are covered in a bed-liner-like material to remain unscathed and durable.  
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It does look like a lot of fun plus if the tray comes off you can put your track wheels in the back and then strip it into go-kart form and go racing.
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Oct 5, 2012 23:40
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Wanna see that with a light machine gun on a swivel bolted to the bed
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MrChips posted:I dunno, I think BMW's new three cylinder sounds pretty good; it sounds a bit like an old air-cooled 911 to me. http://youtu.be/PIlkNXq8pu0
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hedge posted:Sounds like a 5-cylinder to me. To me, it sounds like a V6. Which makes sense.
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oRenj9 posted:I wonder if they still have any of the manufacturing equipment from eons past that they could leverage for this. VW managed to keep the original Type II in production well into the nineties by shipping the manufacturing equipment to emerging markets and selling the cars there. Nissan is still making the B13 Sentra as the Tsuru in Mexico. Wanna build a rust-free SE-R? Start there. I'd be surprised if they didn't make the 510 in the Mexican market for decades. Despite the fact that new Mexican cars just became recently available for legal import into Canada, I haven't heard of anyone doing it yet. I could go for a Chevy Tornado.
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I have a major hard-on for the new Regal GS as a potential daily driver. Is this a bad thing?
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VERTiG0 posted:I have a major hard-on for the new Regal GS as a potential daily driver. Is this a bad thing? Hope you like torque steer.
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discstickers posted:Hope you like torque steer. From Motor Trend: quote:Despite the GS sending all of its 270 hp to the front wheels, the aforementioned HiPer strut system apparently does its job well and dials out any excessive torque steer. Launching the car with traction control off gets you plenty of wheel spin, but with our optional 255/35 P-Zeros, the GS eventually finds its footing, and the turbo blasts you through first gear in a hurry. Link
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VERTiG0 posted:I have a major hard-on for the new Regal GS as a potential daily driver. Is this a bad thing? The platform and engine are both good, but a v6 camry is grounded to the ground.
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VERTiG0 posted:I have a major hard-on for the new Regal GS as a potential daily driver. Is this a bad thing? The GS seems like a cool car that's way too expensive.
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leica posted:The Nails concept is awesome and I would buy it in a heartbeat. I want that.
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Elephanthead posted:The platform and engine are both good, but a v6 camry is grounded to the ground. Haha that god drat commercial. If you go with the Camry your also going to score things guys like, like the rims and the sleekness to the body. I really like the way the GS looks. I might have to try one out via testdrive to see if I agree with that Motortrend article
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Q_res posted:The GS seems like a cool car that's way too expensive. It's priced around what a moderately equipped 3 series or Audi A4(IIRC) would be and I would take the GS over either of those. The Regal is a much better looking car than either of them and I'm not hung up about the FWD.
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Well I wouldn't be buying it new, but 2012s with only a few thousand kilometres on them are in the low $30k range now, which is quite attractive. Also I think I'm missing something with the Camry references; is that from a commercial or something?
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Throatwarbler posted:It's priced around what a moderately equipped 3 series or Audi A4(IIRC) would be and I would take the GS over either of those. The Regal is a much better looking car than either of them and I'm not hung up about the FWD. Yeah it's right on par for similar equipment. I like the GS but I don't think that I would prefer it over the 3er.
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I'd take a new 3-series over the GS as well, but to get it optioned out to where I'd want takes the car well north of 50 large.
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Yeah, the 3er is a way better car than the Regal could ever be - especially considering I'd personally take a Sport Line or M-Sport 328 with the MT and very few options, the price point isn't all that different between them. Beyond that, how's the Regal going to do in North America with the ATS just now going on sale? It seems like both cars are aimed at almost exactly the same customer.
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