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In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.

ImpAtom posted:

S-ranking stages unlocks stuff.

So far as I can tell, you don't need to get an S rank to unlock anything. A ranks unlock the character's alternative costume and a B rank on each of the three stages unlocks Helena, Piers and Sherry. You unlock Carla by unlocking all the other characters' costumes (so by getting an A rank with every character).

In It For The Tank fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Oct 7, 2012

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Spermando
Jun 13, 2009
I'm convinced Chris' final boss is impossible if you play as Piers. The AI will only ever shoot the weak spots by accident, and Piers' thing doesn't seem to phase him in his normal form.

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Spermando posted:

I'm convinced Chris' final boss is impossible if you play as Piers. The AI will only ever shoot the weak spots by accident, and Piers' thing doesn't seem to phase him in his normal form.

The trick I found is just to spam really weak shots at it. As usual, while the game tells you you can charge up attacks, it neglects to tell you you can fire weak shots at it which do a better job at stunning it. Save the big burst for the cocoon, then run up and melee the pods.

smuh
Feb 21, 2011

Little Mac posted:

I'm playing as Piers in my co-op playthrough of Chris' campaign and I like the storyline a lot. However, I'm also playing with the assumption that Piers is Chris' illegitimate child who grew up and followed in his father's footsteps.

"CAPTAIN. CAPTAIN DAD. HURRY UP. DAD."
I thought it was hilarious how loving pissed Chris sound most of the campaign, especially the voice commands. Like pushing "Follow me" becomes "STAY OUTTA MY WAY :mad:" and "Praise" is "Don't get cocky".

Started up on Jake's thing today, so far it definitely seems the weakest one. CQC is fun as hell to use but they could have just named the whole thing "Gimmicks & QTEs". It's still pretty fun though :shobon:

Spermando
Jun 13, 2009

Kaboom Dragoon posted:

The trick I found is just to spam really weak shots at it. As usual, while the game tells you you can charge up attacks, it neglects to tell you you can fire weak shots at it which do a better job at stunning it. Save the big burst for the cocoon, then run up and melee the pods.

Thank you. He went down in two minutes doing that.

Fereydun
May 9, 2008

There's something I really wish they patched in, other than the camera FOV change.
I really wish they patched in invulnerability for the OTG attacks, because holy poo poo it's annoying that you're completely vulnerable during them.

I guess I can kinda understand why they didn't do it, since mercs would become kinda easy if you just did jump kicks into stomps 100% of the time. But either that or the changing it so you don't have to position yourself for killing stomps would make people less frustrated, I think.

Ausmund
Jan 24, 2007

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Capn Beeb posted:

This game just feels off. Which is sad, because when you do something cool it's usually really cool and you want more cool poo poo, but bam the game just fell on its face again and it's squirming on the ground shrieking and making GBS threads itself :(
This is the best synopsis of the game that I've come across.

Leyburn
Aug 31, 2001
Pubbies, stop loving dying in Mercenaries!! 40 minutes of playing and nothing to show for it because everyone always dies, even if we have a loving 130 combo on the go and the person appears to know what they are doing.

I wish it were easier to share health in this mode. A quick option to give away half your tablets would be nice.

onemanlan
Oct 4, 2006
This game feels so weird/not good compared to the other RE games. Even 5 felt better at times which isn't saying much. Its too much action and too little survival, but I really haven't dug deep enough to make such claims worth merit.

My major bitches so far is that the menu system is not in the pause screen which is a huge pain in the rear end if you're stuck some where and need to adjust brightness. Too bad you have to tough it out until you reach a slow area. There are bad checkpoints that can gently caress you over royally over and over until you do it just right that one time(ie. starting out with no ammo against the huge guy on the helicopter).

Edit: gently caress this helicopter scene. Stuck with a magnum with no ammo and in hand, 9mm ammo on the floor and barely enough time to get it out, reloaded and pointed at the ceiling before sliding to my death! Nm fixed after 10 or so deaths.

please tell me it gets better at some point that whats in Jake's early story.

onemanlan fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Oct 7, 2012

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

onemanlan posted:

Edit: Figured it out

This game feels so weird/not good compared to the other RE games. Even 5 felt better at times which isn't saying much. Its too much action and too little survival, but I really haven't dug deep enough to make such claims worth merit.

please tell me it gets better at some point that whats in Jake's early story.

Jake is the gimmick mode character, about 50-60% of his campaign is vehicles, and weird moments where the gameplay is just kind of strange. I didn't have much problems with it personally but his campaign can be overwhelming if you choose it first, and probably give a bad representation of the rest of the game.

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Decided to start chapter 2 of Jake's campaign just so I have something to do.

Half an hour later and no progress made, I switched it off. I can see why people talk about it in such... less than glowing terms.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Who in the everliving name of gently caress ok'd Leon/Helena's final boss fight? This loving poo poo is so tedious. I've been at it for 30 minutes and right when I blow its eyes up another new horde of zombies pop up to patch him up loving dammit arrgghhhhgh
Am I missing something?

Thievery
Jul 15, 2008

What happens in 3rd Street stays in 3rd Street.

Yes you are.

You know the way you've been killing him the entire fight?

Well, you don't stop now. Only, this time, you go hardcore.

HIT HIM IN HIS STUPID FLY FACE WITH THE LIGHTNING ROD

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

onemanlan posted:

There are bad checkpoints that can gently caress you over royally over and over until you do it just right that one time(ie. starting out with no ammo against the huge guy on the helicopter).

You have melee attacks and he has a very simple pattern. Just wait for him to grab, smack him in his stupid face, and back off. Repeat.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Thievery posted:

Yes you are.

You know the way you've been killing him the entire fight?

Well, you don't stop now. Only, this time, you go hardcore.

HIT HIM IN HIS STUPID FLY FACE WITH THE LIGHTNING ROD

And that's why Leon's campaign is the best and Leon in general is the best :haw:

Thievery
Jul 15, 2008

What happens in 3rd Street stays in 3rd Street.

Calaveron posted:

And that's why Leon's campaign is the best and Leon in general is the best :haw:

Yes he is, and yes it is.

I think he's always been my favourite character, since I started the series with #2. And while it might be pretty lame or whatever I liked the way that, at the end, he protects Ada from Simmons as I don't think i've seen another character act like that in the series. Was neat.

Leon S(uper cool guy) Kennedy.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


I just hope this game sold well enough to get a game starring Billy, Barry, and Jake. Those three just becoming the most BAMF unofficial Anto-B.O.W force ever.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Len posted:

I just hope this game sold well enough to get a game starring Billy, Barry, and Jake. Those three just becoming the most BAMF unofficial Anto-B.O.W force ever.

I can see Jake having a role in a future game, but Billy is dead and buried and Barry is relegated to Mercenaries and maybe the occasional mention.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Thievery posted:

Yes he is, and yes it is.

I think he's always been my favourite character, since I started the series with #2. And while it might be pretty lame or whatever I liked the way that, at the end, he protects Ada from Simmons as I don't think i've seen another character act like that in the series. Was neat.

Leon S(uper cool guy) Kennedy.

You know; I like that scene too except when you're doing it as Ada, when you're playing as Leon switching weapons rapidly seems natural when you're trying to fight Simmons away, but if you're with the AI watching Leon pull a sniper rifle out of thin air is hilarious

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Calaveron posted:

I can see Jake having a role in a future game, but Billy is dead and buried and Barry is relegated to Mercenaries and maybe the occasional mention.

Then let's do a grassroots campaign and get Dino Crisis 4 starring Billy and Barry. They aren't doing anything else!

Kenzo
Jun 29, 2004

Tekseta!
Bully died ? How did this happen?

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

Billy is dead? That sounds like some bullshit Rebecca would spread. And you're not going to listen to her stupid rear end, are you? What would Billy do?

He'd piledrive those lies right through a table like Mike loving Haggar.

That's what Billy would do.

In fact the next game should just be Billy & Barry co-op. Dropkicks and revolvers all the time. And Leon could be their handler oh and Chopper Mike is back. Pow, GOTY.

Who's campaign should I start next, Chris or Jake? Does it even matter? Resident Evil what happened to you :(

AASman posted:

This is the best synopsis of the game that I've come across.

Why thanks :tipshat:

I was telling a buddy yesterday that Resident Evil has basically become that great person you've known for years but kinda grew apart. Then oh they're back in town? Cool, let's hang out and catch up!

Oh.

You've got six kids.
And five known daddies.
And four teeth.
And a three way addiction between booze, oxy, and meth.

Granted this may be me comparing a video game franchise to some folks I knew back in school and recently bumped into. But the feeling of disappointment and wasted potential is still there.

But at least the game doesn't have a pungent aroma that you can actually taste in the back of your mouth.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
I mean it in a figurative sense. Billy hasn't come up at all past RE0 and the Ecliptic Express in Umbrella Chronicles. No file, no off-hand mention, no nothing.

EDIT: A little help on Ada's campaign, Chapter 2? The puzzle with the hanging people and the chest under the gallows. What am I supposed to do?

EDIT: NM got it.

Calaveron fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Oct 8, 2012

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Calaveron posted:

I mean it in a figurative sense. Billy hasn't come up at all past RE0 and the Ecliptic Express in Umbrella Chronicles. No file, no off-hand mention, no nothing.

EDIT: A little help on Ada's campaign, Chapter 2? The puzzle with the hanging people and the chest under the gallows. What am I supposed to do?

Pretty simple. Notice how they have locks on the ropes? Maybe you could ask one of those bodies to help hold the switch for you in return for their freedom.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Calaveron posted:

I mean it in a figurative sense. Billy hasn't come up at all past RE0 and the Ecliptic Express in Umbrella Chronicles. No file, no off-hand mention, no nothing.


Well, he's got to pretend he's dead or they'll throw him back on death row again, so this doesn't surprise me. He's probably got blonde hair now, lives under an alias in Baja California and works as an auto mechanic. Far from zombies and leeches.

RembrandtQEinstein
Jul 1, 2009

A GOD, A MESSIAH, AN ARCHANGEL, A KING, A PRINCE, AND AN ALL TERRAIN VEHICLE.

Thievery posted:

Yes you are.

You know the way you've been killing him the entire fight?

Well, you don't stop now. Only, this time, you go hardcore.

HIT HIM IN HIS STUPID FLY FACE WITH THE LIGHTNING ROD

Took me and my roomate about 10 minutes and 3 deaths to figure this out but when we did oh boy.

Leon is the best. loving love his campaign.

Jake's campaign has it's moments, but when it sucks it really sucks.

Halfway through Chris at the moment, reserving final judgement until I finish it. Enjoy it so far.

Mercenaries is awesome as always.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?
Billy had to return to his home planet and im sure not many people will miss him much like no one misses Rebecca.

In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.
Billy's dead.

From a file on Rebecca's desk in the N64 version of Resident Evil 2:

quote:

#File 09/16
Rebecca's Report

On July 23rd, an MP vehicle was found inside the Arklay
Mountains. Corpses of MP members and an unidentified body
were found near the vehicle.

According to the information from military authorities, the
unidentified body was identified as former ensign Billy
Koen, who was sentenced the death penalty following a
court-martial on July 22nd. While Koen was on transfer via
Navy MP escort, they must have experienced some kind of
accident.

The corpses were severely mauled, apparently torn apart by
unidentified wild animals.

The following day we returned to the location to recover the
bodies but they were nowhere to be found.

Military authorities have requested that we turn over Koen's
body as proof of his death. But due to the circumstances
described above, it will be a difficult task to recover the
corpse.

I am requesting that this case be temporarily closed until
further notice.

Raccoon City Police Department
S.T.A.R.S. Alpha Team
Rebecca Chambers

Yes, Billy "Koen". To Capcom, he's dead. But in-universe he's out there living the American dream.

Ausmund
Jan 24, 2007

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Capn Beeb posted:

Who's campaign should I start next, Chris or Jake? Does it even matter? Resident Evil what happened to you :(

I played them in the order the game lists them (Leon, Chris, Jake) and found that works story wise. Like stuff in Jake's goes into things that Chris' merely introduced. People aren't lying when they say Leon's campaign is the highlight of the game. Chris starts out okay but has some awful awful vehicle sections towards the end and an obnoxious but manageable final boss. The first half of Jake is terrible but I thought the second half was decent and almost fun. I think I heard Ada is suppose to be really good but I took a break from the game as soon as I unlocked it.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

In It For The Tank posted:

Billy's dead.

From a file on Rebecca's desk in the N64 version of Resident Evil 2:


Yes, Billy "Koen". To Capcom, he's dead. But in-universe he's out there living the American dream.

Could of sworn she said she'd fake his death so dudes won't go after him. May be misremembering it but would go with the whole "can't retrieve body" thing.


Also Mercs online is fun, got up to wave 125 with some random dude but just a wall of angry rear end zombies all jumping at me and changing into blood shots midair, christ.

Thievery
Jul 15, 2008

What happens in 3rd Street stays in 3rd Street.

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

You know; I like that scene too except when you're doing it as Ada, when you're playing as Leon switching weapons rapidly seems natural when you're trying to fight Simmons away, but if you're with the AI watching Leon pull a sniper rifle out of thin air is hilarious

No that's why it's a great scene. Leon's all "I got this" and stuff.

PS Billy's not dead, Rebecca faked his death so he could get his freedom. That's all the file's for.

i am billy coen

Jblade
Sep 5, 2006

Yeah she fakes his death at the end of RE:0, and he runs off to greener pastures. Although on the other hand he also has to run through miles of B.O.W infested forest to get there first so maybe he really does get killed.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Billy went to the land of lost Limbo where terrible characters go.

In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.

Thievery posted:

PS Billy's not dead, Rebecca faked his death so he could get his freedom. That's all the file's for.

What do you think I meant by "living the American dream"? Of course he's alive, he's probably earning fat stacks with Carlos and Barry somewhere.

Or he was actually Mr. X. Whatever.

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!

Dan Didio posted:

Billy went to the land of lost Limbo where terrible characters go.

Then he clearly isn't with Barry then because Barry is the man. He is so much the man that if you look up "the man" in the dictionary it just has a reference saying "Please look under Barry Burton".

Crowetron
Apr 29, 2009

Billy, Carlos, and Rebecca have got to be some of the smartest characters in the series by this point. They saw all these crazy monsters and zombies and giant murder-worms and poo poo, and they just said "Nope, I'm out." Every now and then, Billy hears about another outbreak of wacky poo poo on the news, sees a picture of Chris, and thinks to himself "Heh, suckers."

I guess you could count Barry in that, too, but I like to believe he's getting into his own increasingly ridiculous misadventures in Canada or something. Just running through the forest, headbutting moose zombies, eternally wondering if that really was Chris's blood.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

All things considered, rooms full of gooey statues that used to be human are a really effective and creepy image and this game tends to use them quite well.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

Crowetron posted:

I guess you could count Barry in that, too, but I like to believe he's getting into his own increasingly ridiculous misadventures in Canada or something. Just running through the forest, headbutting moose zombies, eternally wondering if that really was Chris's blood.

The fact that Barry had already reproduced by the time of the first game is a source of endless entertainment to me. I would play an entire game that's just Barry doing his best to raise his daughters, who are endlessly embarrassed by, yet proud of, him.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

Wanderer posted:

The fact that Barry had already reproduced by the time of the first game is a source of endless entertainment to me. I would play an entire game that's just Barry doing his best to raise his daughters, who are endlessly embarrassed by, yet proud of, him.

Dad, please don't tell my date how you're going to mellow them with yellow fizz :cripes:

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a_gelatinous_cube
Feb 13, 2005

Put another 10 hours into RE6 mercenaries, and while I don't hate it nearly as much as I did when I first started, I still think it's much worse than 5's mercs.

Negatives
*Sloppy melee system. No good way to quickly get behind someone to do a back melee attack.
*No invincibility animations for downed enemy stomps (wtf?!).
*No SS rank, and no separate scores and ranks for the different costumes.
*Terrible terrible inventory system. Why do I have to keep switching back to grenades if I want to throw multiples?

Positives
*No pipe manjinis.

I'll probably still play a fair deal of it, but probably no where near as much as I did 4 and 5.

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