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Finally got a chance to have a full on headphones listen to Time I, and while it's a fantastic album (and probably album of the year for me), I want to point out that Blind Guardian has already covered time extensively. (Hansi would approve of Time I.)
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Oct 17, 2012 17:16
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Time is streaming if you haven't heard it yet http://www.wintersun.fi/album-stream/
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Oct 17, 2012 17:16
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Seems like the internet isn't machine enough to stream it. I can't get the loving thing to budge. edit: ok well I've heard it. there's some cool melodic ideas but this is ludicrously over complicated and busy sounding. the synths and other background poo poo is getting in the way of the good ideas happening on guitar. Morbid Florist fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Oct 17, 2012 |
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Oct 17, 2012 17:53
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SEX HAVER 40000 posted:Are there any resources out there for finding bands specifically with women in them? I'm planning on writing a paper on women in underground music, namely the doom/sludge/grind/powerviolence side of things, but the only sites I've found with lists of female-populated bands all focus on wack poo poo Is there a plugin I can use for metal-archives to help me sort out bands with women? Any help would be appreciated, thanks. I'm a bit late to this thread but have you checked out Cthonic? Bonus is they are Taiwanese, you don't see that every day. http://www.youtube.com/artist/chthonic
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Oct 17, 2012 21:02
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And continuing with stuff about Tuomas Holopainen, here's the trailer for his movie, "Imaginaerum". I wonder if Tim Burton will sue... http://youtu.be/7Tn_ZgUmUTU
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Oct 17, 2012 21:21
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Non Serviam posted:And continuing with stuff about Tuomas Holopainen, here's the trailer for his movie, "Imaginaerum". If I were to design a drinking game for what I expect from a Tuomas Halopainen movie this trailer alone would be enough to put me in the hospital ten times over.
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Oct 17, 2012 21:31
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IRQ posted:If I were to design a drinking game for what I expect from a Tuomas Halopainen movie this trailer alone would be enough to put me in the hospital ten times over. The mad composer's name is Tomas... and the word "poet" was uttered.
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Oct 17, 2012 21:34
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I LIKE DISNEY time to release multiple albums and a feature film to remind everyone of that fact.
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Oct 18, 2012 00:12
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Morbid Florist posted:Seems like the internet isn't machine enough to stream it. I can't get the loving thing to budge. I'm with you on this one, only I don't think there were that many cool melodic ideas. It rather sounded like someone mashed together Nightwish and some generic melodeath band and fed them amphetamines. And so it continues to boggle my mind that most people I know who listen to metal at all seem to like Wintersun. Edit: I also got the nagging feeling that I've heard it all before.
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Oct 18, 2012 00:21
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Frank Caskelot posted:I'm with you on this one, only I don't think there were that many cool melodic ideas. It rather sounded like someone mashed together Nightwish and some generic melodeath band and fed them amphetamines. And so it continues to boggle my mind that most people I know who listen to metal at all seem to like Wintersun. I felt the same way when the newest Turisas came out. I heard it once, felt it was too much and walked away. It's just too over the top maybe?
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Oct 18, 2012 04:12
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What in the hell is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTtSCh1AmQM Is this a joke? Is this a thing? Are they just ripping of Skeletonwitch? I don't even. At least Bringers of Death some creep factor to it. This is just a bunch of grown men in dumb bear suits. You know what, I don't even want to know. Sometimes metal is actually kind of embarrassing.
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Oct 18, 2012 07:38
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Frank Caskelot posted:I'm with you on this one, only I don't think there were that many cool melodic ideas. It rather sounded like someone mashed together Nightwish and some generic melodeath band and fed them amphetamines. And so it continues to boggle my mind that most people I know who listen to metal at all seem to like Wintersun. I had the same reaction. My friends were going crazy about it and while I liked the original self-titled album there is none of that energy in this new one. There's way too much going on and the Nightwish over-production is palpable. I think it suffers from Duke Nukem Forever syndrome in that the production time was so long it a) is no longer relevant and b) got completely lost along the way. On the plus side, the new Anaal Nathrakh is great!
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Oct 18, 2012 08:00
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Radio Paranoia posted:I had the same reaction. My friends were going crazy about it and while I liked the original self-titled album there is none of that energy in this new one. There's way too much going on and the Nightwish over-production is palpable. Vanitas is rad. I'm really digging Time. I get what you guys are saying about the over-production and all, and it is really over the top, but that's one of the things I like about. It's composed so well and really pushes the boundaries in many directions. Come to think of it, Vanitas and Time are actually both great examples of metal pushing boundaries. Vanitas in its raw violent anger and Time in its composition and millions of layers. Neither are conforming to the norm - even within metal standards. No metal by numbers here.
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Oct 18, 2012 08:08
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:No metal by numbers here.
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Oct 18, 2012 08:23
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Negative Plane + Vomitor US tour dates: 05 Dec: Philadelphia, PA at Kung Fu Necktie with Ashencult and Pissgrave 06 Dec: Baltimore, MD at Golden West Cafe with Extermination Angel 07 Dec: Richmond, VA at Strange Matter with Bastard Sapling and Orgon Donor 08 Dec: Pittsburgh, PA at Howler's with Derketa, Abysme and Falcifer 09 Dec: Cleveland, OH at Now That's Class with TBA 10 Dec: Brooklyn, NY at Public Assembly with Ominous Resurrection and TBA 12 Dec: Austin, TX at Red 7 with TBA 13 Dec: Los Angeles, CA at 5 Star Bar with Kommandant, Sanguis Imperem, Invocation War Go if you can.
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Oct 18, 2012 08:35
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I don't have any friends anymore who are into metal as much as I am, and I don't read any forums about it or anything, so it surprised me how popular Wintersun is. I started metal with Blind Guardian in college, then started to look for more things on an epic scale like that and found Ensiferum. Then Jari started Wintersun, and I listened to that and loved it. My Wintersun shirt is one of the few band-related shirts I wear, and I've only had maybe half a dozen people in the years I've had it say they also loved the band. It's saying something that Wintersun is so popular and so divisive when they've only released one album in eight years. That kind of divisiveness, where they're hugely popular among their genre but also have a vocal minority of people saying, "This is over the top, I don't know how everyone likes this," is usually reserved for the bands who've started out strong and then - years and many albums later - have changed tone so much that the people complaining are alienated former fans. One album in almost a decade and still this popular and so much anticipation for Time I? Until I read this thread and the posts on Metal Archives, I figured I was almost alone in still waiting. And the album is amazing. I can't get enough of Sons of Winter and Stars. The weakest track is Land of Snow and Sorrow, but Sons of Winter and Stars and also Time blow me away and more than make up for it. There's no awesome guitar solo like in Winter Madness, but I don't mind. It still sounds like a natural evolution of their original sound.
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Oct 18, 2012 13:12
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Frank Caskelot posted:I'm with you on this one, only I don't think there were that many cool melodic ideas. It rather sounded like someone mashed together Nightwish and some generic melodeath band and fed them amphetamines. And so it continues to boggle my mind that most people I know who listen to metal at all seem to like Wintersun. I actually agree entirely, I just didn't want to start an argument I don't give a poo poo enough about to get into. This album's been done a hundred times already by Kalmah, In Flames, Soilwork, etc, only they had the luck of doing it 10 years ago, and it wasn't half this hyped. I do like some of the guitar lines but it's a sappy nostalgia more than anything.
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Oct 18, 2012 13:55
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Vanitas is continuing to blow my mind. Oh, and thanks for the recommendations! Dad liked some of them but he didn't say which. 
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Oct 18, 2012 14:25
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Bertrand Hustle posted:
boo! make him tell!
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Time is really brilliantly layered, there is a lot to dig into and appreciate with each listen of the songs. As for the ridiculous complaints of it sounding like other bands, I don't know what you people expect. The fast, melodic and symphonic shtick has been done for years and years now, but so has nearly every other form of metal. No one (I hope) was expecting some absolute genre defying monster, people were expecting a continuation of Wintersun. Time is just a refined take on the scene (whatever you want to call it) by a very talented composer/musician with some vague Japanese influence to give it some distinct identity, and it achieves this. If Insomnium releases an album, I am expecting melodic death metal - a genre that has been beat to loving death. That does not mean I cannot appreciate the music if it is well written and performed. velvet milkman fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Oct 18, 2012 |
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Oct 18, 2012 14:58
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dutch wife abc posted:It IS awesome. Just want to point out that this guy is fuckin' great for having "Dutch Wife ABC" as his username
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Oct 18, 2012 16:16
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The production on Time is amazing. There is so much going on, but it all comes through so clearly and without encroaching on other stuff. I guess all those RAMS paid off. Edit- VV- This I can agree with, some faster stuff like Battle Against and Winter Madness would have been nice. Maybe on Time II . henpod fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Oct 18, 2012 |
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Oct 18, 2012 16:36
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I was expecting more "Battle Against Time" and not "Sleeping Stars." You have Kai Hahto who is absolutely AMAZING at drums. Please do more blast beats. I'd rather listen to the new Anaal Nathrakh which (besides the last track) is awesome and destroys. I'm also happy this new album isn't as bad as Passion, I read that Mick Kenney was collaborating with a guy from Bring Me the Horizon (and I just noticed that he produced a Bleeding Through album) so I was 90% sure Passion was going to have bad breakdowns.
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Oct 18, 2012 18:41
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dutch wife abc posted:It IS awesome. Can't help but mention how great it is to see someone with "Dutch Wife ABC" as a username. Great stuff.
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lordblytzkrieg posted:I was expecting more "Battle Against Time" and not "Sleeping Stars." You have Kai Hahto who is absolutely AMAZING at drums. Please do more blast beats. Is Vanitas streaming somewhere? I'm eagerly awaiting it, but my local record store will only get the vinyls in next month. vedicardi posted:Can't help but mention how great it is to see someone with "Dutch Wife ABC" as a username. Great stuff. So great you had to mention it twice, eh? Edit: VVVVV But you talked about great in both your posts. What can I believe anymore? Frank Caskelot fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Oct 18, 2012 |
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Oct 18, 2012 20:11
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So nice I had to say it twice okay? Get your facts straight. Edit: Your eyes deceive you. vedicardi fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Oct 18, 2012 |
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Oct 18, 2012 21:22
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Radio Paranoia posted:I had the same reaction. My friends were going crazy about it and while I liked the original self-titled album there is none of that energy in this new one. There's way too much going on and the Nightwish over-production is palpable. Yeah, I have to agree with this. I finally got a chance to listen to Time I tonight, and, well, it's good, but overproduced as hell and hardly the masterpiece some seem to be saying it is. I don't see how this took 6 years on a petaflop computer with 12 terabytes of RAM to make. Every other symphonic metal band puts out stuff that sounds basically the same as this album every 2 years or so. Not that taking 6 years between albums is a bad thing (see: Orphaned Land) but how did Jari seriously blame this thing on computers? Not impressed, but bombastic symphonic metal isn't my thing right now.
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Oct 19, 2012 02:31
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If anyone's going to NJ Deathfest this weekend, be friendly and say hi, I play bass in Parasitic Extirpation, and I'll likely be the most unmetal looking dude there.
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Oct 19, 2012 02:37
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Overproduced extreme symphonic flower metal is overrated and Wintersun sucks. Instead of talking about Wintersun we should talk about Bound By Entrails because "The Stars Bode You Farewell" is the best album this year and the honest, rough production makes it sound even more majestic than it would if it was polished.
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Zodijackylite posted:Overproduced extreme symphonic flower metal is overrated and Wintersun sucks. Instead of talking about Wintersun we should talk about Bound By Entrails because "The Stars Bode You Farewell" is the best album this year and the honest, rough production makes it sound even more majestic than it would if it was polished. What's the difference between "symphonic flower metal" and "symphonic cranky goth kid metal"
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vedicardi posted:What's the difference between "symphonic flower metal" and "symphonic cranky goth kid metal" Both have a fanbase of people who wear fedoras with band t-shirts so I have no idea either
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Oct 19, 2012 09:08
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Devin Townsend is better than both of them anyway...
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Oct 19, 2012 10:47
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Hammer Floyd posted:Devin Townsend is better than both of them anyway... I still can't listen to a full Devin Townsend album and I think he's more overhyped than just about anything else in metal.
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:I still can't listen to a full Devin Townsend album and I think he's more overhyped than just about anything else in metal. I will fight you!  Seriously though, I come across a lot of people with that opinion and I kind of see where it comes from. I think it's just because he's an all round humble guy with zero pretention or ego. His music is, if anything, engaging and unpredictable - the DTP albums were also great because it wasn't just four albums of the same thing over and over. He's a more than accomplished musician and I honestly think he's only really hitting his stride now! </fanboy>
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:I still can't listen to a full Devin Townsend album and I think he's more overhyped than just about anything else in metal. Them's fighting words. If nothing else, you have to admit he's unique. There's nothing that sounds like Devin Townsend. Whether or not that's a good thing is up to you. I actually like that there's some metal out there that's not trying too hard. I'll admit that yes, there's a lot of overproduction (I love the overproduction, but can understand why others wouldn't) but he's not trying to be the heaviest, meanest, fastest, cheesiest, most epic or anything like that. It's just Devin being Devin.
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Oct 19, 2012 11:35
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All that is cool and I think that's why I've given him so many chances. I just can't get into DTP stuff. Every time I see / hear somebody talking about him I give it another go, but it just doesn't do it for me.
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:All that is cool and I think that's why I've given him so many chances. I just can't get into DTP stuff. Every time I see / hear somebody talking about him I give it another go, but it just doesn't do it for me. Awesome  . Well I'll leave this suggestion and leave it at that:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0EC2ndoXDE
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Oct 19, 2012 12:24
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This will be an extremely unpopular opinion but one of my favorite albums this year is Enabler - All Hail The Void. Yes, the drummer from Fallout Boy plays in this band. It doesn't mean it doesn't kick rear end! So many riffs.
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I don't mean to turn this into Devin chat but I don't really like his floatier stuff, but adore SYL and his more recent stuff. His passion, energy and pure love for music is what makes him special. Will just leave this here and bugger off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57hs37Yq_3s
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