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King Hotpants posted:Skip the Epson TW5900; while I'm not up on Epson's European model numbers that looks an awfully lot like the 3010, which is just kind of okay. If you decide you do want 3D, the best choice there is the Optoma HD33. Thanks, I had no idea Epson used different model numbers for some reason. But you seem to be correct that TW3200 = 8350 and TW5900 = 3010. Do you have any idea how they (and the Optomas) are in terms of input lag and response time, in case games end up being a frequent application? If they're more or less equal, I'll go with the TW3200 as you suggest, it's just a little down on brightness compared to the HD23 but I assume this wouldn't be a big deal.
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King Hotpants im looking to upgrade my 8100 Right now i have a white elite screens, im going to use wilsonart fashion grey screen for the new setup. What i want out of a new projector is: 1) better black levels 2) less motion blur The 8100 is bright as gently caress, so i dont see lumens being a problem (i run it on eco lamp mode) 14 feet away on a 103" screen or so. I absolutely hate DLP rainbow effects, i cant stand them and neither can my friends, but i dont want lcd induced motion blur either. Only options seem to be JVC? High end mitsubishi? I need lens shift of course. 3d isnt important, if it has it, great, if it doesnt, dont mind. I want to spend around $3000 gently caress the mitsu hc9000d is $2940 at projectors people drat that is nuts. coolskillrex remix fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Aug 13, 2012 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Thanks, I had no idea Epson used different model numbers for some reason. But you seem to be correct that TW3200 = 8350 and TW5900 = 3010. I don't have numbers on the Optoma stuff but the Epson 8350 is fast as gently caress with input lag. It's been tested at like 15ms, which is as good as it gets (the Epson 3010 is up around 105ms, for comparison). coolskillrex remix posted:King Hotpants im looking to upgrade my 8100 If you did not need lens shift I would push the Optoma HD33 on you. You hate rainbow effects but it has a 6x speed wheel so you won't see any drat rainbows. Other than that, the Epson 5010 has way, way better blacks than the 8100 did. It's also less than $3000. It also uses newer panels than the 8100 so the motion blur should be down. Processing for 3D means that input lag is like 90ms, which sucks if you want to play games and care about that sort of thing. If you do care about games look at the Panasonic AE7000, which is more or less on a level with the Epson 5010 but has less input lag. Black level isn't as good, but the difference is hair-splittingly small.
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King Hotpants posted:I don't have numbers on the Optoma stuff but the Epson 8350 is fast as gently caress with input lag. It's been tested at like 15ms, which is as good as it gets (the Epson 3010 is up around 105ms, for comparison). I will want to play my 360 on it, but its mostly for movies Id have to see a 6x speed, i had a 4x speed hd65. I saw RBE several times every minute depending on the amount of highlights in a scene. Even if it got cut down to once a minute i still wouldnt want a DLP unfortunately, that sort of stuff drives me up the wall. Are you saying the epson 5010 has input lag on 2d as well? My epson 8100 is perfectly fine for call of duty. No opinion on HC9000D or any JVC models? JVC looks like a bad time to buy because new models are coming out soon. id love to get a jvc with nice black levels for like $1.5k even if it only had 2d.
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coolskillrex remix posted:Are you saying the epson 5010 has input lag on 2d as well? My epson 8100 is perfectly fine for call of duty. Yeah it does. Something about the processing engine means there's no fast way to get a signal through the thing. Even in 2D you're looking at 90ms input lag. If you are serious about your vidyagames that might bother you, but I don't know. quote:No opinion on HC9000D or any JVC models? JVC looks like a bad time to buy because new models are coming out soon. id love to get a jvc with nice black levels for like $1.5k even if it only had 2d. The HC9000D is a nice projector but it's also a whole generation older than everyone else's current stuff. I also haven't been able to see it next to the Epson 5010 or Panasonic AE7000 or anything else that came out this year, so I have no fuckin idea how they compare. I do know that the 3D doesn't compare favorably to Epson or Panasonic's models, if that interests you at all. As for the JVC stuff, their old models were incredible and really blew everyone else out of the water at the time. Lately they've been good but a little overpriced. Again, I haven't actually seen their new stuff so my opinion isn't worth any more than yours.
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Amazon Optoma HD20 1080p DLP Home Theater Projector (Grey) for $659.07 Optoma HD66 720p DLP Home Theater Projector (White) for $441.27 Nevermind price went up as I was posting this.
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Spazzle posted:Does anyone have any experience or opinions on 300-500 lumen LED projectors? Yes- don't buy one right now, because the 1080p LED projectors are coming out this autumn. (I own a qumi and an hx300g)
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cultureulterior posted:Yes- don't buy one right now, because the 1080p LED projectors are coming out this autumn. If you want one, buy one now, because the 1080p LED projectors that might (again, I'll believe it when I see it) arrive this autumn are going to be kind of lovely, like almost every other first-generation product. The little ones are cheap and ought to tide you over until actual good 1080p LED products start showing up in a few years.
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So I'm looking at switching to a projector. I've done a fair amount of research, but my main concern is that I'm probably not going to mount this thing in my current apartment, so it either needs to have a short-ish throw and some sort of keystone adjustment. My priorities are as follows: -1080p w/ HDMI (ideally with 24p, 60/120Hz modes) -works well w/ PC (primary video source is HTPC, having HDMI should cover this) -Keystone adjustment -Zoom or short-throw capabilities -Decent lumens (some ambient light in my apartment) -Low noise (not super-important, just can't be a jet engine) I'm not worried about 3D or built in sound. I am not against getting something 3D or 3D Ready, but it is not a priority. Now based on this criteria, mixed with a <$1400 budget, I am looking to maximize picture quality. Here are my top two choices so far: Panasonic PT-AR100U http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-PT-...ANASONIC+AR100U or Mitsubishi HC4000 http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-HC...isibushi+HC4000 Are these my best choices? Are there any other contenders at my price point? What if I added a couple hundred to my budget? Any help is appreciated! e: And I cant wrap my head around which is better, DLP or 3xLCD. e2: primary uses: HTPC, Digital TV, Gaming Bea Nanner fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Aug 22, 2012 |
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Bea Nanner posted:Are these my best choices? Are there any other contenders at my price point? What if I added a couple hundred to my budget? Any help is appreciated! I don't know about the ones you listed, but check out the Epson 8350 also. It's got quite a bit of zoom and lens shift, which doesn't affect the image quality like keystone adjustment does. I didn't want to mount mine either, so I have it sitting on a table next to my seating position (which is centered on the screen). There's a limit to the shift and in my case it was just enough. I think the Epson site has calculators so you can see if it will work for your placement.
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Hmm. The Optoma HD33 is looking pretty tempting as well. Can't.. Decide...
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Maybe IYG will have an answer!
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New thread location - wooooo! Best deal for a low-end home theater projector? 720p is fine, don't give a poo poo about 3D, would be used for movies / tv / casual gaming. Are the older optomas still the best bang for your buck? HD66? (around $540 on amazon at the moment) Unsure of most of the details, but would probably ceiling mount though the ceiling in the basement is pretty low (around 7')
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Bea Nanner posted:-1080p w/ HDMI (ideally with 24p, 60/120Hz modes) 1. You don't want keystone, you want lens shift. 2. You want the Panasonic AR100.
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King Hotpants posted:1. You don't want keystone, you want lens shift. Thanks. I was looking forward to your folky wisdom. That was my preference, too. Seems like I missed some rebate to get it for $999, though
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Hey KH, my Epson EH-TW3200 arrived last Friday! While I don't have anything to compare it to beside regular business projectors, my early impressions are:
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I'm looking for an ultra short throw projector and I have no idea who has the best device right now. Can I get a recommendation, please?
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What's the best projector to get for around $400? I'll be mostly using this to play PS3 games and watch the occasional movie. I'd prefer 720p if possible. KillHour fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Sep 29, 2012 |
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So Im ready to go pick up an Optoma HD33. I'm a little confused about lens shift, keystone correction and whether I need either. I'm using a 106" screen, and I will be mounting the projector at the ceiling at the far end of it's throw distance (a little over 13') Will I be forced to use keystone correction ? Will the hd33's lack of lens shift cause some sort of problem for me ? I havent chosen a projector mount yet, because I don't know what sort of issues I will run into aiming the thing.
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I think with the HD33 you need to mount either 7" above or 7" below the screen, otherwise you need lovely keystone correction. Plan accordingly.
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Qaz Kwaz posted:I think with the HD33 you need to mount either 7" above or 7" below the screen, otherwise you need lovely keystone correction. Plan accordingly. Ohhh so If I can get it at that height I don't need any correction at all ? I figured anything other than direct center would need correction.
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To figure out the offset for the HD33, you need the height of your image (on a 106" image that's 52") and then take 7% of that. That's about 4". You still need to be horizontally centered and the projector needs to be perfectly level. Here's what I would do, if I were you - Mount the projector first, then mount the screen. That way you can see where the screen needs to go and decide if that's what you want. If not, you can always add an extension tube to your ceiling mount or switch to a table placement.
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Best Buy near me has the JVC X3 for $1600 refurb with a brand new bulb. My original plan was to get the HD33 for $1350 shipped. Should I bite?
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KillHour posted:What's the best projector to get for around $400? I'll be mostly using this to play PS3 games and watch the occasional movie. http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-PJD...words=projector
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Is 12-14 feet enough to throw a 92" image from an Epson 8350? If not, what would be acceptable?
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1997 posted:Is 12-14 feet enough to throw a 92" image from an Epson 8350? If not, what would be acceptable? Yes. Also: http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-PowerLite_Home_Cinema_8350-projection-calculator-pro.htm Learn to love it.
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King Hotpants posted:Yes. Also: Hot drat! Thanks for the quick, positive answer I was looking for and the link.
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Do you guys want me to start an actual projector thread with an informative OP and all that? We've been using this one for years.
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I have my Optima HD33 installed. Picture is every bit as good as my calibrated LED TV. Stills seem to have slightly blurry text but anything in motion is crisp.
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King Hotpants posted:Do you guys want me to start an actual projector thread with an informative OP and all that? We've been using this one for years. Very, very much. I'm really thinking about buying an i1 Pro and running the "Color Calibration for Dummies" and I'm eager to hear if I'm totally going down the wrong direction.
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King Hotpants posted:Do you guys want me to start an actual projector thread with an informative OP and all that? We've been using this one for years. I'd really like this. I'm in the midst of planning a home theater setup and would love some knowledgeable advice.
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King Hotpants posted:Do you guys want me to start an actual projector thread with an informative OP and all that? We've been using this one for years. Please do. I'm almost in the midst of a projector decision and would find this very helpful.
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Qaz Kwaz posted:Please do. I'm almost in the midst of a projector decision and would find this very helpful. I found this link helpful. Its not scientific, but will point you in the right direction. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1391476/coderguys-top-projector-picks
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KH and knowledgeable insiders. My search for a short through decent output but lowish price search has inevitably led me to the BENQ W710ST. Does anyone have experience with this or similar units? The reviews I have read to date are all positive.
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cpwhite posted:KH and knowledgeable insiders. What do you want to use it for? BenQ's presentation projectors tend to be really bad for movies because: 1. All the brightness comes from BrilliantColor, and 2. You need to turn BrilliantColor off to get the color to look acceptable. So you end up with about 1/3 of the advertised lumens for movies and the color still isn't great. Then again, if you don't care about movies, knock yourself out. I'm not really up on short-throw machines.
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Thanks KH. That's disappointing news but better to hear it now than before I shell out $700. is there a particular brand that you are fond of for movies/tv/xbox? I am leaning to some sort of short through as the wall I envision projecting this against is maybe 12 feet from the back wall hence with a sofa etc to sit on I don’t think i would have more than say 4-5 ft to play with.
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cpwhite posted:Thanks KH. That's disappointing news but better to hear it now than before I shell out $700. is there a particular brand that you are fond of for movies/tv/xbox? I am leaning to some sort of short through as the wall I envision projecting this against is maybe 12 feet from the back wall hence with a sofa etc to sit on I don’t think i would have more than say 4-5 ft to play with. Thats going to limit your choices of some really good projectors. Is there a way you can get around that ? The Epson 3850(3845 in Canada) and the Optoma HD20 can be had in your budget, are great for games due to low lag and get great reviews for image quality.
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jonathan posted:Thats going to limit your choices of some really good projectors. Is there a way you can get around that ? The Epson 3850(3845 in Canada) and the Optoma HD20 can be had in your budget, are great for games due to low lag and get great reviews for image quality. 8350 and 8345
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King Hotpants posted:Do you guys want me to start an actual projector thread with an informative OP and all that? We've been using this one for years. Absolutely yes, I came here looking for a projector thread. I will be getting my first one sometime soon.
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PT-AE7000 is $2050 at projector people... AE8000 is $2900 everywhere. Got an 8100, should i take the leap??
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