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I Appreciate You
Feb 15, 2012
Also, pneumatic tubes are currently used in test and research nuclear reactors to move small experimental samples in and out of the reactor's core quickly.

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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

I Appreciate You posted:

Also, pneumatic tubes are currently used in test and research nuclear reactors to move small experimental samples in and out of the reactor's core quickly.

I GET IT. THEY ARE NOT OBSOLETE. :arghfist::eng101:

One thing I haven't seen in a long time are automatic doors triggered by rubber entry pads on the ground. Everything seems to be on a motion sensor now. Those pads seemed pretty cool when I was a kid.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Dick Trauma posted:

I GET IT. THEY ARE NOT OBSOLETE. :arghfist::eng101:

One thing I haven't seen in a long time are automatic doors triggered by rubber entry pads on the ground. Everything seems to be on a motion sensor now. Those pads seemed pretty cool when I was a kid.

I think the Shaw's in my hometown still uses the rubber mats. It was a Grand Union, when they went under, it was bought by Shaw's, and they did a little renovation on the inside, but the last time I was there it still had the pressure mats...but that was probably two years ago, at least.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Base Emitter posted:

I miss big chunky keyboards.

You can still get them brand new!

http://www.pckeyboard.com/

Or refurbished.

http://www.clickykeyboards.com/

I bought a refurb a couple years ago, and have never looked back. The loudness and annoyance to others is overplayed. :)

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

Dick Trauma posted:

I GET IT. THEY ARE NOT OBSOLETE. :arghfist::eng101:

One thing I haven't seen in a long time are automatic doors triggered by rubber entry pads on the ground. Everything seems to be on a motion sensor now. Those pads seemed pretty cool when I was a kid.

You haven't been to enough small towns, especially industrial focused ones. A lot of them still have stores with those in place, because it'd be expensive to replace.

Veotax
May 16, 2006


Dick Trauma posted:

I GET IT. THEY ARE NOT OBSOLETE. :arghfist::eng101:

One thing I haven't seen in a long time are automatic doors triggered by rubber entry pads on the ground. Everything seems to be on a motion sensor now. Those pads seemed pretty cool when I was a kid.

Funny, I have never seen those in the UK. When I was a kid I din't understand why people jumped on those mats or whatever in cartoons to open the doors.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Veotax posted:

Funny, I have never seen those in the UK. When I was a kid I din't understand why people jumped on those mats or whatever in cartoons to open the doors.

The earliest automatic door I remember was motion activated - I was about 6 or so.

I only remember as I got trapped in it.

Physical
Sep 26, 2007

by T. Finninho

wipeout posted:

The earliest automatic door I remember was motion activated - I was about 6 or so.

I only remember as I got trapped in it.
Did you recently sell your soul to a friend, preventing the sensor from detecting you?

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

wipeout posted:

The earliest automatic door I remember was motion activated - I was about 6 or so.

I only remember as I got trapped in it.

I remember them from the late 1960s, no idea how much earlier they existed. Also reminds me of "electric eyes" which I don't see anymore. I'm sure true optical electric eyes are still in use but when I was a kid they were the most common sensor you'd see for things like door and alarm systems.

Axeman Jim
Nov 21, 2010

The Canadians replied that they would rather ride a moose.

Veotax posted:

Funny, I have never seen those in the UK. When I was a kid I din't understand why people jumped on those mats or whatever in cartoons to open the doors.

Fairly sure when I was last in Paris they were still using these for the exit turnstiles on the Metro.

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

Axeman Jim posted:

Fairly sure when I was last in Paris they were still using these for the exit turnstiles on the Metro.

I can confirm this. Bit of a different scenario though.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Physical posted:

Did you recently sell your soul to a friend, preventing the sensor from detecting you?

Could easily be that. Maybe mid 80's :britain: engineering too.

quote:

Also reminds me of "electric eyes" which I don't see anymore.
I haven't see one for years. Now you mention it I remember seeing one in a Library, and wondering what the light source was for.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO has a new favorite as of 01:46 on Mar 26, 2015

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


Does anyone remember the talking soda machines from the early/mid 80s?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRa4ofB6GV8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7fQx6E1DH8

I had forgotten about them, and for some reason this thread reminded me!

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

wipeout posted:

I haven't see one for years. Now you mention it I remember seeing one in a Library, and wondering what the light source was for.

I once saw an old-fashioned and weirdly shaped hand dryer in a public bathroom, with a label on it explaining how to use the "electric eye dryer", and was kind of :stonk: about it until I realized what was actually going on.

fappenmeister
Nov 19, 2004

My hand wields the might

This thread has got me motivated to dig out my old Childcraft - How Things Work from the 60s or 70s and have a giggle at some of the obsolete technology.

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005


AlternateAccount posted:

As an owner of these, they are not at all bright. Pretty much can't even see the glow in anything less than near-total darkness. Also I think they emit alpha particles as most of their decay? I can't remember.

Tritium vials are used on pistol sights too, and those are definitely a lot brighter than what you describe. There's a noticeable glow even in light. In complete darkness, I'd say that they are about 1/2 as bright as a typical HDD activity light.

Given that they are being sold with the expectation of the buyer putting them on something that they keep stuck in their pants for hours every day, I doubt that they'd get away with selling them if they emitted even a tiny amount of harmful radiation.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

fappenmeister posted:

This thread has got me motivated to dig out my old Childcraft - How Things Work from the 60s or 70s and have a giggle at some of the obsolete technology.

Different book as I grew up later, but you reminded me that I still have my original copy of this wonderful thing:



Those mammoths taught me so much about the world :allears:

NewtGoongrich
Jan 21, 2012
I am a shit stain on the face of humanity, I have no compassion, only hatred, bile and lust.

PROUD SHIT STAIN

Killer robot posted:

That was Radithor, one of the radium water products of the 1920s. It's not really related to the many things that endanger workers far more than consumers though, like radium watches or careless X-ray use or various powdered chemicals.

On old keyboards with lots of extra modes and keys I do like this one:



Ctrl, Meta, Super, and Hyper! :science:

They even added a "dislike" button! This isn't outdated. It's some sort of retro chic future technology.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:



Of course, barely any radiation is emitted from them at all, definitely not dangerous levels unless you sleep with it under your pillow every night for 12 years and it leaks, but you can still use them to freak out your dad.

Even if you did that, nothing. The beta from tritium decay's only 6 KeV, it can't even get through your skin, even if it could escape from the capsule it's in, which it can't. There's nothing else in the decay chain to worry about since it decays right to stable helium. And what's in the capsule is either tritium gas in a tube lined with a phosphor or tritiated water, so if the capsule leaks either the water drains away or the gas poofs off into the air.

If you broke one open and ingested it you'd get the equivalent of a couple of years of background radiation, but short of that it's no exposure at all.

So while tritium's several thousands of times more radioactive than radium, it's nowhere near as big a deal.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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blugu64 posted:

You can still get them brand new!

http://www.pckeyboard.com/

Or refurbished.

http://www.clickykeyboards.com/

I bought a refurb a couple years ago, and have never looked back. The loudness and annoyance to others is overplayed. :)

I think I am going to ask MY WIFE for one of those beautiful Unicomps for christmas. I had no idea what I wanted until you just reminded me they exist, so thanks!

Also, some of the keyboards on the clickykeyboards site are so nice looking. Maybe it's just fondness for what I grew up on, but they just have such a nice, professional, clean aesthetic appeal. Way better than the cheapo mass produced Dell pack-in media keyboard I'm typing on now.

I can't wait to get a proper mechanical keyboard. I have long threatened my developers that I'd get one and drive them all nuts [I type fast and I type a lot]. :v:

e. I love the gently caress out of the fact that I can order a Unicomp without Windows keys. I hate Windows keys. I am that guy.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Different book as I grew up later, but you reminded me that I still have my original copy of this wonderful thing:



Those mammoths taught me so much about the world :allears:

:neckbeard: I loved that book.

Also, this was a pretty excellent parody of it:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/694245.The_Way_Things_Really_Work

Explains things like how Chinese restaurants get those hot towels so drat hot (they are placed into the pressurized core of a miniaturized tokamak that primarily heats towels, with the waste heat used for cooking) or how toasters always either just singe or incinerate the toast (the first push of the lever actually diverts most of the power to an enormous capacitor that is triggered on the second push).

The Wurst Poster
Apr 8, 2005

Literally the Wurst...

Seriously...

For REALSIES.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Different book as I grew up later, but you reminded me that I still have my original copy of this wonderful thing:



Those mammoths taught me so much about the world :allears:

This book does a better job explaining things...

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Code Jockey posted:

I hate Windows keys. I am that guy.

:hfive:

If you order new, make sure you get one with control in the right place too.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

blugu64 posted:

:hfive:

If you order new, make sure you get one with control in the right place too.



Oh whoa, what? Is this how they used to be? Because drat I don't ever remember that, and I've been using PCs since the 8088 era.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Code Jockey posted:

Oh whoa, what? Is this how they used to be? Because drat I don't ever remember that, and I've been using PCs since the 8088 era.

It was always more of a unix thing, I think. Why put a key you rarely use in a easy to hit place on the home row, and a key you use all the time all the way in the corner?

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

blugu64 posted:

It was always more of a unix thing, I think. Why put a key you rarely use in a easy to hit place on the home row, and a key you use all the time all the way in the corner?

This is true!

Huh, I kind of like that, pretending my keyboard is set up that way. More ergonomic for, like you said, a key that gets used a lot more than caps lock does.

fr0ggerrr
Apr 18, 2011

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Different book as I grew up later, but you reminded me that I still have my original copy of this wonderful thing:



Those mammoths taught me so much about the world :allears:

OH MY gently caress! I had that book when i was a kid! It was the loving best! Sorry I'm so excited. Buying that poo poo right now
PS Those mammoths are what i think of when i read the word "neckbeard"

fr0ggerrr has a new favorite as of 07:34 on Oct 30, 2012

I Appreciate You
Feb 15, 2012

blugu64 posted:

:hfive:

If you order new, make sure you get one with control in the right place too.



My brain hurts just looking at that.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
I remember hating the windows key as a kid, it was where control or alt usually was. Pressing it in DOOM,expecting to fire, then having windows dump you to the desktop with the chance of crashing the game wasn't fun.

Base Emitter
Apr 1, 2012

?
I have a keyboard with a Windows key disable switch, and I switched it off when I got it and forgot all about it. Never missed the Windows key, not sure what it does.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Base Emitter posted:

I have a keyboard with a Windows key disable switch, and I switched it off when I got it and forgot all about it. Never missed the Windows key, not sure what it does.

It's Ctrl+Esc, opens the Start menu. Nothing special, just got lots of hatred by 1990s neckbeards because :qq: Windows 95! :qq:
I was one. Got better. Still don't use it much.

m2pt5
May 18, 2005

THAT GOD DAMN MOSQUITO JUST KEEPS COMING BACK

Killer robot posted:

It's Ctrl+Esc, opens the Start menu. Nothing special, just got lots of hatred by 1990s neckbeards because :qq: Windows 95! :qq:
I was one. Got better. Still don't use it much.

Since XP, it's the modifier key for a bunch of handy shortcuts. For instance, Win+R opens the Run dialog, Win+Left/Right arrow snaps the current window to that side of the screen, and so on.

ANIME MONSTROSITY
Jun 1, 2012

by XyloJW
Win+D saved my rear end so amny times when I was watching porn and someone suddenly came into my room.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Call Now posted:

Win+D saved my rear end so amny times when I was watching porn and someone suddenly came into my room.

Are door locks banned where you live?

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

m2pt5 posted:

Since XP, it's the modifier key for a bunch of handy shortcuts. For instance, Win+R opens the Run dialog, Win+Left/Right arrow snaps the current window to that side of the screen, and so on.

You know, I actually take that back, yes. I use Win+E a lot to launch Explorer windows come to think.

Tears In A Vial
Jan 13, 2008

Windows Key is awesome, and anyone that doesn't use it is missing out.

I use all of these every day:

Win = Start Menu
Win+D = Desktop
Win+R = Run
Win+E = Explorer
Win+F = Finder
Win+L = Lock Desktop
Win+M = Minimize
Win+Shift+M = Un-minimize
Win+Arrow Keys = Do some stuff to your current browser window

EddieDean
Nov 17, 2009

Tears In A Vial posted:

Windows Key is awesome, and anyone that doesn't use it is missing out.

I use all of these every day:

Win = Start Menu
Win+D = Desktop
Win+R = Run
Win+E = Explorer
Win+F = Finder
Win+L = Lock Desktop
Win+M = Minimize
Win+Shift+M = Un-minimize
Win+Arrow Keys = Do some stuff to your current browser window

Wow, in Windows 7 the Win+Arrow Keys are all really useful. Actually going to start using these.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Donkwich posted:

Are door locks banned where you live?

No mum just took all the keys :v: .

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

blugu64 posted:

:hfive:

If you order new, make sure you get one with control in the right place too.


To get picky about that, it's generally always better to have stuff by the edges of a screen or device (Fitt's Law), as it's easier to reach them blindfolded. With Ctrl there, it's in the middle of tab and shift. Thus, the conclusion would be that the modern placement of Ctrl is actually better, since it's by two outer edges of the keyboard. I don't see how having it on the home row benefits anything.

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Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
I agree with having the Ctrl key in the corner, if I press it with my pinky, X, C, V, S, D, A, W are all easily accessible with one fingertip, where if I hold Caps Lock, I'd have to bend my finger a whole bunch to use half of those.

I just remapped my Caps Lock to keyboard layout selection. Much more useful.

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