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Pesky Splinter posted:With no word of hyperbole, I honestly find his new backstory insulting to my intelligence. It is literally the worst kind of fan fiction. I haven't really been following development of this game closely, but I watched whatever trailer is on the X360 dash right now. Holy poo poo, is this thing ever up its own rear end with the whole "gently caress THE SYSTEM, MAN" thing. Combine that with the whiny beyond my wildest fears Dante, and I just don't even know. I'll rent it if the mechanics are solid, but seriously, gently caress Ninja Theory all day long with their stupid story ideas. If thatgamecompany could develop games with actual mechanics but boosted the pretentious artgame nonsense even further to compensate, you'd have Ninja Theory.
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Dammit, Steam Halloween Sale went up and neither DMC3 nor 4 have a discount. Hopefully it's just an error, but you never know with Capcom these days.
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toasterwarrior posted:Dammit, Steam Halloween Sale went up and neither DMC3 nor 4 have a discount. Hopefully it's just an error, but you never know with Capcom these days. Dollars to doughnuts this is deliberate in order to disincentivise people from buying the older product. Wouldn't want people acknowledging old and busted DmC when shiny new DMC is right around the corner!
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Eh, on further browsing I kinda doubt that since RE5 isn't on sale either and that's definitely a series associated with horror and Halloween. Yes, I know RE5 isn't really a horror game, but you know what I mean. Zombies and poo poo. It's more likely that Capcom dropped the ball when it came to authorizing discounts or they didn't think it was worth it this year. 
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Chachi posted:Dollars to doughnuts this is deliberate in order to disincentivise people from buying the older product. Wouldn't want people acknowledging old and busted DmC when shiny new DMC is right around the corner! I think you got your mixed capital letters acronyms a little confused there.
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toasterwarrior posted:Eh, on further browsing I kinda doubt that since RE5 isn't on sale either and that's definitely a series associated with horror and Halloween. RE6 came out a month ago it'd be a foolish marketing move to focus sales efforts on 5 instead of 6
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The Miracle posted:RE6 came out a month ago it'd be a foolish marketing move to focus sales efforts on 5 instead of 6 But RE6 isn't out on PC yet?
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A minor thing from the Playstation Battle All Stars thing: One of Dante's alt colours is Vergil's jacket.  Apparently, the devs wanted Classic Dante, but Capcom put their foot down, to the point that there isn't even going to be a Classic skin. Anyway, Amazon is now taking pre-orders for DmC for those interested: US DmC UK Xbox PS3 Capcom is also doing a deal, where if you pre-order the game from their store, you get this free metal and resin pendant with it.  I'll pass, thanks.
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Oct 31, 2012 03:20
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quote:Apparently, the devs wanted Classic Dante, but Capcom put their foot down, to the point that there isn't even going to be a Classic skin. I can't think of a a single good reason for this, then again Capcom has proven time and time again its full of morons.
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Oct 31, 2012 03:32
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They want to advertise the new game.
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Alteisen posted:I can't think of a a single good reason for this, then again Capcom has proven time and time again its full of morons. Marketing. Plain and simple. [e]: Beaten.
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Oct 31, 2012 03:38
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Weird as hell seeing New Dante wear Classic Vergil's coat though. Why bother if it's going to be a half-assed reference then?
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Oct 31, 2012 07:49
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I was going to make a joke about "Dante is actually Vergil and Vergil is actually Dante" but realized that's just stupid enough to end up being true.
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Oct 31, 2012 11:00
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Seeing that dude clothes other than ones that look like they haven't been washed in a week is really strange Probably because he still looks like he hasn't showered in a week
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Alteisen posted:I can't think of a a single good reason for this, then again Capcom has proven time and time again its full of morons. I see the Capcom higher ups as less morons and more full-blown eccentric egotists. They can still pitch a pretty good game if they can manage to put their minds to it and not go too far off on some wacky tangent but all too often they become their own worst enemy. Especially when they get on one of their "We will tell you what you want and you will like it!" trips. The sad part is when one of their crazy schemes backfire, instead fessing up to it they tend to bury the entire series and pretend it never existed (Breath of Fire being the classic example but there are quite a few others). I get the feeling that is what is going to happen with DMC even if the remake does tank. Capcom are not exactly big on admitting to their mistakes let alone learning from them.
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Pesky Splinter posted:The demo for DmC will also be playable at the London Comic-con. I played a demo at PlayExpo (2 weeks before MCM aka London Comic-con) There were two levels, the one where you go through the town and it tries to crush you and you have to destroy cameras, and then the one with the Slurm Queen boss. I was going to sit here and write some massive effortpost about just how every single part of the demo was really badly designed, but I'll just say it's like Okami but with all of the fun and charm removed from it. It's like they saw Ammy's air dash in Marvel 3 or the vine grip in Okami and went "WE GOTTA HAVE THIS IN OUR GAME." The 'best' bit was when Dante goes into the church and I was thinking "Oh this is an 'enemy room' because it's huge and open which will let me abuse mobility, crowd control, destroyable furniture and just style on enemies." and then I just spent the next minute and a half gripping blue targets while the room GREW LONGER to give me more targets to grab. The Slurm Queen boss was me just staring with my mouth open at the dialogue and then just doing the Devil Mode strength move while in Devil Trigger and killing her in 10 seconds AND THEN I GOT TO DO MORE OKAMI STYLE VINE GRIPPING I LOVE THAT poo poo.
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How did the combat control? That sort of platforming is set to appear throughout the rest of the game - the previews of levels from the middle of the game are basically more of that platforming. And the dialogue they've shown is just as bad; if it's not someone screaming "gently caress YOU!" at someone, it's them trying to have a horribly melodramatic scene, or social commentary. [e]: I guess we'll find out first hand soon enough. VVV Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Oct 31, 2012 |
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A date for the demo has been announced: Xbox - 20th November PS3 - 21st November A PC demo has yet to be announced. Source: http://www.zavvi.com/blog/games/demo-dated-for-dmc-devil-may-cry/
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Good, I've been waiting to get my hands on this game. The thing about demos for these types of games is you can usually tell how good the mechanics are going to be by the videos of players posting their best runs to Youtube. The Reveangence demo play that just got posted this week is proof of that, now I'm sold on that game.
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Pesky Splinter posted:How did the combat control? Okay as a standalone game that had nothing to do with Devil May Cry in any way shape or form, it controlled acceptably, nothing really seemed to drop or act weird. As a Devil May Cry game it controlled like a disaster, there was no lock-on (seriously I need to bold this and make it 72pt font because holy poo poo), evade was it's own button which made Dante do some weird synthesis of a roll and Trickster dash, launch was its own button and I swear I had three attacks total, a normal sword combo, a 'power combo' that I got by entering Devil Mode and an 'area combo' that I got by entering Angel Mode, also the grab system is so clunky compared to DMC4's it's unreal. I know I said this before but it controls like Okami without the paintbrush elements or the different weapons or even the counter and I'm going to stop this now because I'm insulting Okami way too much. Pesky Splinter posted:That sort of platforming is set to appear throughout the rest of the game - the previews of levels from the middle of the game are basically more of that platforming. And the dialogue they've shown is just as bad; if it's not someone screaming "gently caress YOU!" at someone, it's them trying to have a horribly melodramatic scene, or social commentary. I finished DMC2 I wish I could rent this or something because I don't want to give this company any of my money ever but I want to experience it.
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Chucat posted:Okay as a standalone game that had nothing to do with Devil May Cry in any way shape or form, it controlled acceptably, nothing really seemed to drop or act weird. That's good news at least. We said a long long time ago in the thread it would have been better for this to have been an original IP, considering just how little it shares with the other DMC games. And if it plays fine that's okay. Chucat posted:As a Devil May Cry game it controlled like a disaster Aye, there's the rub. Chucat posted:I finished DMC2 I wish I could rent this or something because I don't want to give this company any of my money ever but I want to experience it. The best thing to do is either rent it, or buy it from the pre-owned shelf (it doesn't take that long for it to start appearing like that). That's what I plan to do, anyway. Because gently caress Capcom if this is the direction they want the series to head, and gently caress NT for being up their own arse.
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The worst thing about playing the demo was hearing the people behind me saying how much better it was than the original games. The same thing happened after watching a screening of Alien, and hearing how much better they thought the stupid, pretentious, completely-missing-the-point sequel was.
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C'mon man, you didn't just diss Aliens now?  What's your opinion on the demo, That loving Sned? Yay, or nay?
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That loving Sned posted:The worst thing about playing the demo was hearing the people behind me saying how much better it was than the original games. The same thing happened after watching a screening of Alien, and hearing how much better they thought the stupid, pretentious, completely-missing-the-point sequel was. Um but Alien is clearly superior to all its half assed sequels.
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That loving Sned posted:The worst thing about playing the demo was hearing the people behind me saying how much better it was than the original games. The same thing happened after watching a screening of Alien, and hearing how much better they thought the stupid, pretentious, completely-missing-the-point sequel was. Aliens was a fantastic movie though. If DmC was actually like Aliens then I'd probably be pleased with it even if it was different.
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ImpAtom posted:Aliens was a fantastic movie though. If DmC was actually like Aliens then I'd probably be pleased with it even if it was different. Yep, exactly- good movie despite being a completely different kind of movie.
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That loving Sned posted:The worst thing about playing the demo was hearing the people behind me saying how much better it was than the original games. This makes me mad. That loving Sned posted:The same thing happened after watching a screening of Alien, and hearing how much better they thought the stupid, pretentious, completely-missing-the-point sequel was. This makes me VERY mad!
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Just out of curiosity, isn't all this poo poo happening because somebody at Capcom doesn't like Dante as a character? I can't remember where I heard but I think I remember this also being the reason that Nero was in 4, too.
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I think the decision to outsource DMC came from Inafune, who is no longer in Capcom. I doubt he had anything against Dante. He was just going through a midlife crisis and thought they had to Westernize everything.
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Capitalism Bro! posted:Just out of curiosity, isn't all this poo poo happening because somebody at Capcom doesn't like Dante as a character? It's pretty firmly blamed on Keiji Inafune. He was a big push for "westernizing" games but not in the way you think. He basically approached it as "Japanese oversight on Western developers" and pushed for that, leading to games like Bionic Commando, Dark Void, Dead Rising 2 and this. So far DR2 is the only seeming success story but YMMV.
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gently caress me, a dearth of news and then everything comes at once: Training Mode - A la Bayonetta's practise mode. DLC Skins - There will be other skins that can either be unlocked by completing various modes or buying DLC. First Boss preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LMlSizVjjxk New character, Phineas  He's apparently an old friend of Sparda, and offers to help Dante find Mundus' weak spot or something. There's a level in a subway about collecting his eye. New Battle vids: Bloodlines Combo vid Home Truths - Dante visits his old home, sees a picture of Sparda, and is like "My dad. What are you trying to show me"  , getting the Axe weapon, and going "Hell yeah." - The voice acting has gotten worse somehow. And he learns he is a 'Nephilim', the offspring of a demon and angel. Yep.DIFFICULTY LEVELS! Human - Easy Devil Hunter - Normal Nephilim - Hard, named after the offspring of angels and humans (way to gently caress up again NT). Son of Sparda - Enemies get tougher, attack waves are remixed. Dante Must Die - Contains the strongest enemies and insane attack waves Heaven or Hell - The remixed mode, but everyone and everything, including Dante, dies after one hit. Hell and Hell - The same as above, but only Dante dies after one hit. Misc: Here's an extract of a playthrough of the first two hours or so: quote:Following a quick brawl with the Hunter Demon Dante is whisked away by Kat, his new female companion, to meet her boss - the illusive leader of 'The Order'. The masked man reveals himself as 'Vergil' and forces an ambivalent Dante to experience some home truths in hopes that he will be more sympathetic to the underground resistance movement. Death of Eva  gently caress you, you steryotypical angel chick. Dante CA  More CA  Oh gently caress this noise:  gently caress you NT, gently caress you to the ends of the Earth. If I ever need an image to sum up how loving terrible you are, it'll be this. Also, the artist hosed up on the reflections. Shouldn't everything be reversed? An edit of Goatse could probably fit in there, at least. That'd make my day. And there's an article on New Dante's design.: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-31-how-the-sex-pistols-fight-club-and-james-dean-made-the-new-dante Sources: http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1660472/devil_may_cry_first_dmc_dlc_details.html http://www.gamesradar.com/dmc-devil-may-cry-four-extreme-difficulty-settings-confirmed-unlockable/ http://www.computerandvideogames.com/376173/previews/hands-on-devil-may-crys-first-2-hours-leave-a-strong-impression/?page=1#top_banner Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Nov 2, 2012 |
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BlackFrost posted:Has the demonic voice chanting what ranking your currently at during combat been there the whole time, or is it new? I think it's new, I don't recall hearing it in the other vids. Though it tends to be drowned out by someone talking over it. That might get annoying. [e]: It's actually an improvement over Bayonetta's one (HA! The last time I say that in regards to DmC!), because this one has a dummy enemy to practise on. Outside of the tutorial stage and preview moves, Bayo was just shadow boxing basically. VVV Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Nov 1, 2012 |
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Pesky Splinter posted:Training Mode - A la Bayonetta's practise mode. This is actually a pretty good idea and honestly all that a Devil May Cry game needed. Teaching people how to be better will be of great benefit to the player and will help out new players to see what makes action games great. Pesky Splinter posted:Oh gently caress this noise: This however is very bad. I can't bring myself to read the article because I'm afraid it'll just be another NT dicksucking and that'll make me too angry to go to work.
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Laughing at "it was hard to get SS rankings in old games and that sucks! Don't worry, it's easy in this game."
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Uncle Wemus posted:This however is very bad. I can't bring myself to read the article because I'm afraid it'll just be another NT dicksucking and that'll make me too angry to go to work. Stygi fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Nov 1, 2012 |
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Hmm yes I also walk into dirty bathrooms and make a weirdly clean puncture with my finger. I also like how you can't see the sinks in front of the mirror that are reflected, as well as the deep and thought provoking graffiti such as
But seriously, what is that hole in his chest? Is it a bullet wound? Did he just rip open his own chest with a finger? Either way, that there's so little blood is more creepy than anything else there. Shouldn't he be like, poking his lung or something?
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Wrist Watch posted:Hmm yes I also walk into dirty bathrooms and make a weirdly clean puncture with my finger. He ripped his chest open so he could see his own beating heart. It was described earlier.
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Pesky Splinter posted:Dante CA I still can't get over how much I hate Dante's new design, it's all just so incredibly off putting
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ImpAtom posted:He ripped his chest open so he could see his own beating heart. It was described earlier. ...I'm not sure if that context is better or worse. Stygi fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Nov 1, 2012 |
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