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Preoptopus posted:Hard sell to the wife tho. Grandpa had Grandma learn to fly. (though I suspect she WANTed to learn.) She even got her IFR rating when grandpa lost his medical. ;-) So she flew him. She also accidentally flew into Oshkosh during airventure one year.
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Preoptopus posted:Hard sell to the wife tho. Vacations without TSA!
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Nov 5, 2012 17:56
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An airplane might cost as much as a car, but the upkeep costs are an order of magnitude more expensive.
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Which engine is better? P&W F135 or GE/RR F136 (I don't mean to make a low content post, I'm just trying to research it and not finding as much aggregated info as I'd like.)
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Define better? I think the GE/RR F136 was cancelled, no?
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Nov 5, 2012 20:16
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It wasn't selected because it wasn't completed by the decision time, but I believe it was better in most measurable ways.
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? I read that it is complete, just not being manufactured. I also called P&W to get the price of their F135s, but their customer service sucks if you don't have a billion dollar contract.
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Nerobro posted:Grandpa had Grandma learn to fly. (though I suspect she WANTed to learn.) She even got her IFR rating when grandpa lost his medical. ;-) So she flew him. ha ha, what she got caught up in all the air traffic and had to land?
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Vork!Vork!Vork! posted:ha ha, what she got caught up in all the air traffic and had to land? Yes as an annual visitor to EAA I would also love to hear the story.
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Vork!Vork!Vork! posted:ha ha, what she got caught up in all the air traffic and had to land? As I recall, she and a friend of hers went for a antiquing trip to Minnesota. And on their way back, the airfield in Oshkosh was their planned refueling stop. I think it's Saturday, and they're flying home. (They flew out of KPDA) Much to Grammie's surprise she's forming up with the mass of aircraft that visit Airventure. Their fuel stop took a few hours longer than they had expected. I'll see if i can get more of the story from her. She's in her early 90's now, and is showing signs of dementia. But.. I will ask.
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Hah, my grandmother flew when she was younger, never really continued with it after the war interrupted it. Probably for the best, if her driving was any reflection.
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I'm bored, here's some Migs, Shenyangs, and Nanchangs. 31124 by Powercube, on Flickr Yes, this is a nuclear strike B model. Not too many of those in existence.  63863 by Powercube, on Flickr  1991 by Powercube, on Flickr  31583 by Powercube, on Flickr  32 by Powercube, on Flickr  30657 by Powercube, on Flickr Edit: accidentally showed the same mig three times, oops Powercube fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Nov 6, 2012 |
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It took me about 2 1/2 months to read this entire thread, but I'm glad I did. Love the god drat Zeppelin stories. Now I'll get off my rear end and upload a bunch of pics I took at Kandahar when I got to crawl around an A-10 and Belgian F-16s. Edit: My unit got a chance to go crawl around an A-10 one day along with some Predators and Reapers. The Belgians invited us to to their flightline a week later to see their F-16s after we let them crawl around our Strykers and play with our guns.     I took way too many pictures of the GAU-8. Or not enough. I don't know.                   I have no clue what this is, but I had to take a picture of it.   Our Air Force guys let us get up close with the Predator, and the control trailer (which we couldn't take pictures of).    Not allowed to get close to the Reaper, but they at least let me take one shot of it.  The French shared the same flightline with the Belgians. They were yelling at us to not take pictures of their Mirage F1s and 2000s as we passed by. I did anyway, obviously. Hell, even the Belgians said the French were a bunch of jerks.  Mirage F1  Mirage 2000                  stache Pretty sure this was a Brit Harrier, I don't know the difference between ours and theirs.   The awesome guys that let us play with their F-16. Here's some video that one of my guys took of those same A-10s doing night gunnery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ON5hBnvAN0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WaC4D1b7t0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcwmh-A7l2U Mike-o fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Nov 6, 2012 |
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/\ Still the best stache in GiP /\Powercube posted:I'm bored, here's some Migs, Shenyangs, and Nanchangs. Post some of those "restricted" pictures on your other site! What's the deal with the nose on the A-5? And yeah, the F136 was completed and actually did a significant amount of testing, it just never finished testing or entered production because the Pentagon was finally successful in killing it after some in Congress has kept it alive for several years after the Pentagon said it wasn't interested (the Pentagon requested no money for it in the budget from 2006 to 2010 but Congress kept inserting funds...some of that was driven by political considerations due to RR's participation in the project and the U.K.'s status as the only Tier I partner in the JSF program along with the fact that a couple of Dutch companies were pretty heavily involved in the program, and some of it was driven by not entirely misplaced distrust in P&W's ability to deliver a quality engine on time and on budget.) GE and RR actually self funded the project for about 6 months from May when the funding was cut until Dec of last year before deciding that it wasn't worth it. I haven't really heard of any major issues with the F135 (nothing like the AB blowouts the F100 suffered in its early days), although that makes sense since its based on the more mature and also relatively issue free F119. I think the F136 had the edge on the F135 performance wise, and I think that is somewhat borne out by the fact that the F135 has had some problems specific to the STOVL variant, although with everything associated with the F-35 it depends on who you believe; same applies as far as the motivations within the Pentagon for wanting to cancel the program...which is also not entirely unfair given the dishonesty by some in the Pentagon when making statements about the engine (i.e., the idea that there was ever a "competition" between the two.)
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What are the red canisters on the bottom of the A-10? I'm guessing counermeasures?
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Thought this was a cool little thing I saw on the news. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWbg8UH50fA&sns=em Plane hits an SUV while attempting to land. Everyone is safe.
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Ridge_Runner_5 posted:What are the red canisters on the bottom of the A-10? I'm guessing counermeasures? Yeah, they are Chaff dispensers
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Bondematt posted:Yeah, they are Chaff dispensers Actually flare (you can tell by the size of the stick, also the fact that the endcaps have a big "F" on them) but yeah, countermeasures.
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Nov 6, 2012 06:31
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Flares. Edit: Goddamn distractions.
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Nov 6, 2012 06:36
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Tenchrono posted:Thought this was a cool little thing I saw on the news. Quite a bit of discussion about that situation around a few pilot forums. The video description is pretty accurate.
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Mike-o posted:It took me about 2 1/2 months to read this entire thread, but I'm glad I did. Love the god drat Zeppelin stories. Now I'll get off my rear end and upload a bunch of pics I took at Kandahar when I got to crawl around an A-10 and Belgian F-16s. The Harrier is American. You can see the subdued USMC roundel on the side. Why do the F16s carry sidewinders? Are Taliban/Iranian/Chinese air force attacks imminent or something?
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Suicide Watch posted:The Harrier is American. You can see the subdued USMC roundel on the side.
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This is all wild speculation, but I'd guess that weight*position plays a role with the weapons loadout (put the heavier weapons close to center line). Also the side mounted rails likely exclude non-propelled weapon releases (bombs), but I'll let someone with experience chime in. Are sidewinders effective against helicopters? I imagine those are common in our current wars.
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Not only that, but I bet wingtip-rail sidewinders work a lot like winglets and actually improve aerodynamics and fuel efficiency while cruising.
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Standard loadout always includes self-defense capability.
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Also, finally getting around to throwing some KAF images online. (click to embiggen)  US Army AH-64 departing for a mission.  Russian helicopter pilots love Afghanistan so much, they can't stay away.  More Russians, the big boys.  Really big.  Pred.  Reaper drone.  ]Hellfires.  Some Mirage's departing.  Rafale turning fuel into noise.  Whirly birds, some uglier than others.  Ugliest, noisiest piece of poo poo ever.  Belgians.  Belgians encore.  Rare sight at KAF, US Navy Hornet.  Recce flight  Pass on the right.  SemperFi DEBBA DAWG CLEARD HAWT  Love.  Long day over.  Sleeping Hog.  9 Liner coming into Role 3.    Only shot that matters of a Spooky.  The ride home awaits!  These fellas decided to give us an escort for the last leg. edit; thanks for the heads up! vvvv Ruse fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Nov 6, 2012 |
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I don't know if you realized what you just did. The timg tag DOES NOT reduce the size of images. It just makes them display smaller. You just posted a 150 meg post on a forum. You should use img tags to reasonable sized images, with a link to the big images if you feel like letting people see the whole image.
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More from Datangshan! 3029 by Powercube, on Flickr DC-3 or Li-2?  What is the rego of this H-5? by Powercube, on Flickr  50258 by Powercube, on Flickr  5619 by Powercube, on Flickr  14121 by Powercube, on Flickr  20158 by Powercube, on Flickr  9605 by Powercube, on Flickr  70768 by Powercube, on Flickr
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Gullous posted:This is all wild speculation, but I'd guess that weight*position plays a role with the weapons loadout (put the heavier weapons close to center line). Also the side mounted rails likely exclude non-propelled weapon releases (bombs), but I'll let someone with experience chime in. There's no way you would put anything other than an air to air missile on the wingtip rails (hell, "rails" being the operative word, compared to pylons)...any air to ground ordnance would be way too heavy. Even heavy air to air missiles like the AIM-7 are too heavy for the wingtip rails; about the heaviest missile that you are going to see carried on the wingtip is something in the AIM-120 class. And yes, Sidewinders are effective against helos, but last time I checked the Taliban doesn't really have too effective of an air arm, nor did any of the Iraqi insurgents. Godholio posted:Standard loadout always includes self-defense capability. Yup. And sometimes it even gets used! (it was a Strike Eagle that downed the wayward Reaper, supposedly with a Sidewinder). Fun fact, the jet that got that kill was the same tail that dropped a LGB on an Iraqi helicopter during Desert Storm. e: That jet also has the most hours of any Eagle, A-E. So yeah, it's going in a museum somewhere when it's finally retired. iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Nov 7, 2012 |
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Did anything come about of that EF-11 that got an A-A kill via terrain assist? It make for a real loving cool static somewhere.
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It's a static at Cannon, last base to operate Spark Varks.
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HeyEng posted:Did anything come about of that EF-11 that got an A-A kill via terrain assist? It make for a real loving cool static somewhere. Not on the same level, but one of my top Red Flag memories was an A-10 pilot calling "Stop tape!" to assess his (successful) air-to-air shot on an aggressor F-16.
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That's awesome. One of our guys up here, who I'm sure you know as one of the best O-5 pilots in the community, was telling us stories how B-52's could get sick A-A kills during Red Flag and how awesome their jammer equipment is. I forget who was telling me how a C-130 crew toyed with an aggressor F-16 so bad with dramatic airspeed changes.
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HeyEng posted:That's awesome. One of our guys up here, who I'm sure you know as one of the best O-5 pilots in the community, was telling us stories how B-52's could get sick A-A kills during Red Flag and how awesome their jammer equipment is. Their jamming equipment is loving impressive. I have no idea where the line is, so I'll just stop there, but yes. Yes it is. Their countermeasures are pretty sweet too. One of the other top RF events was a B-52 that flew in from Barksdale that was above the "no chaff" line at FL350, going to "drop" his bombs then turn and go home. Well, he got locked up by an aggressor and dropped seven miles of chaff. LA Center and Salt Lake Center were not amused, and the wing commander at Barksdale got a phone call. Edit: Some helicopter door gunner was listening to our threat and friendly point-out calls (so the pilots knew what was going on around them). He heard us call their callsign and saw planes flying toward them so he thought it was a threat and opened up on them until the pilot told him he was "shooting" at a friendly. 
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Never met a B-52 crewmember that I didn't like. They're fun people.
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Speaking of electronic tomfoolery, have a French ELINT DC-8. I can't think of too many other military-specific DC-8 modifications. I think the U.S. Navy used one for training for a while.
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StandardVC10 posted:Speaking of electronic tomfoolery, have a French ELINT DC-8. They did...I'm too lazy to go find the post but it was a one-off that is now parked at AMARC and a goon went and took pictures. It was called the EC-24, and it was an electronic aggressor that had an underfuselage canoe fairing that held jammers that pumped out gently caress-off huge amounts of energy.
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iyaayas01 posted:They did...I'm too lazy to go find the post but it was a one-off that is now parked at AMARC and a goon went and took pictures. It was called the EC-24, and it was an electronic aggressor that had an underfuselage canoe fairing that held jammers that pumped out gently caress-off huge amounts of energy. They also apparently used a Convair 880 for aerial refueling and cruise missile tests. Unusual choice. Maybe they were going for engine commonality with the F-4 Phantom? 
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iyaayas01 posted:They did...I'm too lazy to go find the post but it was a one-off that is now parked at AMARC and a goon went and took pictures. It was called the EC-24, and it was an electronic aggressor that had an underfuselage canoe fairing that held jammers that pumped out gently caress-off huge amounts of energy. As usual, it was me.  163050 by Powercube, on Flickr Here you go.
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On the topic of GA... I own my own '76 Cherokee 140. It hasn't been too expensive over the past year. My annual was around $600. I needed to spend $400 to replace the strobe power supply and another $400 on fixing a King radio I broke myself. (doh!) . About $200 to get my CDI and ILS indicator calibrated. I just got into a hangar, but my tie down fee was $40 / month. Hangar fee is $125 / month. I love my airplane and am very happy I pursued my license and bought the plane. The most important PM item for your plane is to fly it! I am planning on eventually installing an Apollo GX-60 or Garmin 350XL so I can learn non-precision GPS approaches. My plane could use a paint job and new wing tips. 
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