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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:But Tolkien did actually write all the Gandalf poo poo; it's in the RotK Appendices, and Unfinished Tales. Not in an enormously descriptive manner, but it's pretty much there. I know, but like you said it's not in much detail so they will have to come up with lots of stuff themselves.
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If 48fps is the intended viewing mode, why is it so rare (relatively)? I would have to drive 2 hours to see it in IMAX/3D/48fps even though I'm in a major-ish city with a fully featured state of the art IMAX theatre. Why bother going to the trouble of filming this high profile trilogy in this new format if the distribution effectively makes it just a 'limited edition' version of the film? It's never going to catch on this way and I imagine that only cinephiles are going to know or care about 48fps.
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Colonel Whitey posted:If 48fps is the intended viewing mode, why is it so rare (relatively)? I would have to drive 2 hours to see it in IMAX/3D/48fps even though I'm in a major-ish city with a fully featured state of the art IMAX theatre. Why bother going to the trouble of filming this high profile trilogy in this new format if the distribution effectively makes it just a 'limited edition' version of the film? It's never going to catch on this way and I imagine that only cinephiles are going to know or care about 48fps. Because its a newer technology and not every theater gets new stuff right away, its expensive. Also, I'm not sure about all the 48 FPS hate. There is a movie/ride at Disney, Soarin', thats at 48 FPS and it looks awesome. It even appropriately sounds kinda like Sauron.
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# ? Nov 7, 2012 23:31 |
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I was under the impression most theaters were already equipped for it, as everything is digital now. Does it require a special digital projector or something?
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# ? Nov 7, 2012 23:51 |
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Colonel Whitey posted:I was under the impression most theaters were already equipped for it, as everything is digital now. Does it require a special digital projector or something?
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 00:01 |
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Well that explains it I guess. I just don't see this format taking off anytime soon without more widespread exposure, and it's unfortunate that most people won't see these films the way they were intended to be seen.
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 00:11 |
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Colonel Whitey posted:If 48fps is the intended viewing mode, why is it so rare (relatively)? I would have to drive 2 hours to see it in IMAX/3D/48fps even though I'm in a major-ish city with a fully featured state of the art IMAX theatre. Why bother going to the trouble of filming this high profile trilogy in this new format if the distribution effectively makes it just a 'limited edition' version of the film? It's never going to catch on this way and I imagine that only cinephiles are going to know or care about 48fps. It had a harsh backlash at Cinemacon, a convention for theater owners, which made New Line seriously reconsider their push of the tech. Remember these guys would love a "new" 3D again to relive the glory days of Avatar, so the negative feedback was taken very seriously.
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 01:01 |
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I imagine putting the 48fps version on Blu-ray wouldn't be a problem, though? Or would the TV refresh rate come into play?
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 02:56 |
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Hatter106 posted:I imagine putting the 48fps version on Blu-ray wouldn't be a problem, though? Or would the TV refresh rate come into play? It would depend on your tv refresh rate, yes.
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 03:02 |
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Full soundtrack list with samples. http://www.qobuz.com/album/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-special-edition-howard-shore/0794043163920 I absolutely promised myself I wouldn't seek out the rest of the soundtrack (a friend linked me to this), but listening to a couple won't hurt, will it?
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 06:20 |
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I don't even know how you'd pack 48hz into a 60hz tv signal. Show every 4th frame twice? I can't imagine that working out vey well.
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 07:00 |
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Luckily the PAL release will end up at 50 frames/sec so 100Hz TVs should have no problem, right?
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 07:15 |
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Hedrigall posted:Luckily the PAL release will end up at 50 frames/sec so 100Hz TVs should have no problem, right? I guess with 48hz movies on 50hz PAL you could just speed everything up a tiny bit, isn't that what they usually do with 24hz already?
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 07:24 |
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Don't most HDTV's have native 24p from bluray now?
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 07:30 |
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Fat Guy Sexting posted:Don't most HDTV's have native 24p from bluray now? Maybe in the future we'll all need quad rate 240hz TVs? Nill fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Nov 8, 2012 |
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I have a question about the LOTR Blu-ray Trilogy; Which version is the best? There are quite a few out there with varying prices, but the one I'm looking for is basically a combined package similar to the DVD Extended Editions with all the extras, only in Blu-ray obviously. I found one which was Blu-ray only (no DVDs), very affordable, and is coming out in a couple of weeks, but I can't find any info if all the extras are included (commentaries, documentaries and the Costa Botes documentaries).Octy posted:Full soundtrack list with samples. http://www.qobuz.com/album/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-special-edition-howard-shore/0794043163920
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 14:37 |
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If we're talking about North America at least, I'm guessing you want the 15-disc version of the trilogy after all, which features the movies on two Blu-ray discs each, and the the original EE extras on two regular discs each, and the documentary-style making of each movie also another regular DVD disc for each movie. (It would have been nice if they could have produced those extras on Blu-ray and HD as well, but I guess they simply didn't exist in high-def.)
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# ? Nov 8, 2012 14:50 |
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Europe actually, and I've seen those boxes with pretty much everything in them including the DVDs, but they tend to be really pricy for some reason. I found a Blu-ray package of the trilogy but I can't seem to find out if the extras are included; I don't mind if the extras are DVD quality though, I'd just like a "complete" package where the extended movies are on Blu-ray and the extras are included too. E: Apparently there's a 6 disc edition coming later this month with presumably everything on Blu-ray, as in, the movies on 3 discs and extras on 3 discs, but I've yet to find out what extras they are. Stare-Out fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Nov 8, 2012 |
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If you don't mind the quality, then you can pick up the DVD box set with all the Extras and get just the movies themselves on BluRay. It's what I'm gonna do when I get the cash and feel like rewatching the series again, since last time I tried I discovered the DVD version I have is at a 4:3 ratio with a huge ugly black border around the movie. Looked so ugly on my HDTV I couldn't watch more than the first disc.
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 03:33 |
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These are the sets that exist as far as I know: DVD - Theatrical cuts -- 3 movies x 2 discs each --- Disc 1: movie, no commentary --- Disc 2: lovely extras not worth your time - Extended cuts -- 3 movies x 4 discs each (originally available in super special boxsets with various collectable items and a throw-in DVD of something boring, like the Nation Geographic LOTR special which sucked) --- Disc 1 & 2: movie spread across two discs, 4 commentaries --- Disc 3 & 4: hours of behind the scenes - Limited Edition -- 3 movies x 2 discs each --- Disc 1: movie spread across both sides of disc, branching to either Theatrical or Extended cut --- Disc 2: Costa Botes documentary (approx 1.5 hours) Bluray - Theatrical cuts -- same deal as DVD editions; no new extras --- second disc (with extras) is a DVD - Extended cuts -- 3 movies x 5 discs each (available as separate 5-disc sets or a 15-disc trilogy box) --- Disc 1 & 2: movie spread across two bluray discs, 4 commentaries --- Disc 3 & 4: DVD of exact same extras in DVD extended edition --- Disc 5: DVD of Costa Botes documentary Amazon doesn't seem to show any new editions coming out soon. Expect that after the Hobbit trilogy... a 30 disc, 6-movie boxset? EDIT: oh wait for the UK I found these: http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1;-1&sku=99653 - Box art says 2-disc edition so I'd say it's disc 1 and 2 from the Extended Bluray sets, meaning you get the 4 audio commentaries per film but miss out on the 3 discs of extras. So it's really for people who have all the DVD versions already, and just want the HD movies. Hedrigall fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Nov 9, 2012 |
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Octy posted:Full soundtrack list with samples. http://www.qobuz.com/album/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-special-edition-howard-shore/0794043163920 Okay, what am I doing wrong that I can't get anything to play? It's showing "Listening unavailable."
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 05:03 |
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Effingham posted:Okay, what am I doing wrong that I can't get anything to play? It's showing "Listening unavailable." Huh, it worked for me yesterday. Now I'm getting a message saying it's unavailable for my country. EDIT - The samples for disc one are on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-vHWLmLBIc
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 05:14 |
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Ugh, I will be sure to see this movie in the standard 24 fps. I can't loving stand that hand-held cam look aka the real life look. It's weird and pulls me out of the experience because it feels like I'm watching actors (rather than the characters)
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 07:32 |
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oswald ownenstein posted:Ugh, I will be sure to see this movie in the standard 24 fps. I can't loving stand that hand-held cam look aka the real life look. I'm going to reserve judgement for now as I've never actually seen a 48fps film (has anyone?) especially one filmed with a budget some way north of half a billion US dollars. Most UK'ers won't really have a choice anyway as the only places in UK showing 48fps are two cinemas - one in Liverpool and one in Bristol, and I'm not loving going to Liverpool.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:If you don't mind the quality, then you can pick up the DVD box set with all the Extras and get just the movies themselves on BluRay. It's what I'm gonna do when I get the cash and feel like rewatching the series again, since last time I tried I discovered the DVD version I have is at a 4:3 ratio with a huge ugly black border around the movie. Looked so ugly on my HDTV I couldn't watch more than the first disc. Hedrigall posted:These are the sets that exist as far as I know:
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 11:44 |
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Octy posted:Huh, it worked for me yesterday. Now I'm getting a message saying it's unavailable for my country. Oh man, that first song is all I needed to hear to have any doubts I had about the film be erased.
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 12:19 |
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:
Youve got a problem with one of the best cities in the UK? *RUMBLE!*
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 15:21 |
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Oh man, that music has me so jazzed. Especially [spoiler]That's what Bilbo Baggins Hates![spoiler] and the Radagast theme. I am so happy that Radagast is in this. He's one of my favorite LOTR characters, but I did understand why he wasn't in the movies (because he basically goes "gently caress that" to anything to do with the ring or the war)
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 19:04 |
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Octy posted:Huh, it worked for me yesterday. Now I'm getting a message saying it's unavailable for my country. Thanks for the YouTube link! Bummer about the out-of-country probs with the samples. I'd love to hear more.
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 19:43 |
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I'm glad I didn't bother looking at anything involving this movie until now, the wait is gonna be unbearable, but at least I only have to wait a month.
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 20:41 |
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Thank God I live in Southern California and several theaters within close range have the capability to play the film at 48 fps.
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 21:39 |
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It wouldn't hurt to double check with the theater if you're just going by online info and ticketing. My first choice was listed by the franchise as offering a HighFrameRate showing but when I went to pick up some tickets the manager insisted it wasn't.
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# ? Nov 9, 2012 23:27 |
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Effingham posted:Thanks for the YouTube link! YouTube link has been (understandably) taken down by Warner Bros now. I'm sure there are other means to obtain it but we may just have to wait the month out now. I'm definitely buying the soundtrack though.
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# ? Nov 10, 2012 01:20 |
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So I heard there was gonna be 3 Hobbit movies, am I just buying into BS?
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# ? Nov 10, 2012 11:58 |
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:So I heard there was gonna be 3 Hobbit movies, am I just buying into BS? There are three movies now. God knows what's going to happen in the third movie, but there it is.
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# ? Nov 10, 2012 12:21 |
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Octy posted:There are three movies now. God knows what's going to happen in the third movie, but there it is. Here's what we know so far: Movie 1:
Movie 2:
Movie 3:
Whilst Movie 3 has the least number of bullet-points (on paper), rest assured that PJ could make the BoFA span a huge chunk of the film, in the same way that Pelennor (and the Black Gate) was a huge chunk of RotK. Besides, the whole Laketown / Smaug thing is a monstrous setpiece to take up most of act 1 of that film. Notice also the structural similarities of each film with its corresponding film in the LotR trilogy, especially Movie 1, which is almost an exact beat-for-beat remake of FotR.
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# ? Nov 10, 2012 16:01 |
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So you got Unexpected Journey, There and Back Again and... do we have a title yet? my dad once told me that at the end of ROTK book Saruman was supposed to go back and enslave the entire shire and generally do bad poo poo till the gang got back to kick his rear end or something along those lines I guess they could throw this in though I can't imagine it would work too well.
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# ? Nov 10, 2012 21:44 |
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:So you got Unexpected Journey, There and Back Again and... do we have a title yet?
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# ? Nov 10, 2012 21:55 |
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:
I don't know how I feel about that, I mean I'm gonna see it reguardless as I'm a big LOTR movie fan but can 1 book really be spread that thin? I know hobbit had more poo poo happening than any 1 LOTR book but did it have 3 times as much poo poo happening? whatever, Peter Jackson take my money.
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:I don't know how I feel about that, I mean I'm gonna see it reguardless as I'm a big LOTR movie fan but can 1 book really be spread that thin? I know hobbit had more poo poo happening than any 1 LOTR book but did it have 3 times as much poo poo happening? whatever, Peter Jackson take my money. The extra stuff is taken from, I think, the Appendices in Lord of the Rings. Tolkien later retrofitted a whole storyline for when Gandalf leaves the dwarves and Bilbo halfway through the book that's all to do with the White Council and Sauron. There's only maybe 120 pages of material there so expect a lot of filling in the details. EDIT - I don't have my copy with me, but does Gandalf actually say where he's going when he leaves the company? Octy fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Nov 10, 2012 |
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