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Cross-posting from the Awsome AI Stuff thread, because I forgot this was here. I got to drive a Ferrari F430 around a track yesterday. I had never driven on a track before, and never driven any kind of performance car, so I was a little nervous it was going to get away from me. I was very, very slow, but I thought I managed the turns fairly smoothly. The sound out of that car is just amazing. It was one of those pay for 3 laps kind of things, at Blackhawk Farms in S. Beloit, IL. They also had a Porsche, an Audi R8 and a Lamborghini LP540 Performante. Here's the video if you want to cringe at my complete lack of speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITKQHvQN51o It was really fun in any case. I might try and take my E90 down there when they have track days just so I can learn how to drive better. I was also thinking of trying to find a Lemons/chumpcar team near me looking for eager but marginally skilled help.
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Blooot posted:If you get the chance to run Thunderhill in reverse, do it!  It still looks great. I wish I lived in California.
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Funzo posted:It was really fun in any case. I might try and take my E90 down there when they have track days just so I can learn how to drive better. Congrats on the first time. Beware you have caught a very expensive bug.
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Funzo posted:Cross-posting from the Awsome AI Stuff thread, because I forgot this was here. Blackhawk Farms is a fun course, but can be dangerous if you go off of course due to trees. I've ran a 1:30 on semi-decent street tires on my mustang cobra at blackhawk. Turn 7 can be real nasty.
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FatCow posted:Empty your bowels beforehand. Lots of lights and angle them out to find apexes. Turn your mirrors away from your face, they are useless except to completely blind you. Also if you're doing Chump/Lemons get the HID lights or just sit out the night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi8wyYNhCnw Ok so the camera makes it darker than it really was but yes finding breaking and turn-in points was a challenge at times ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Oct 31, 2012 |
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How do you guys feel out the effects of suspension setting changes? I remember before I took the vette to its first track day, I went to a shop where the mechanics were racers and asked for an alignment that'd be aggressive for the street but slightly better for track driving. Driving from the shop, at normal street speeds, I could only pick up a tiny amount of difference in behavior, despite quite a few corrections to toe. If I don't have a data acquisition system and I don't drive all the same corners (like at a track) all the time, how hard do I have to drive a car to pick up on the effects of changes in settings? Put another way, does having lots of experience make you more sensitive?
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kimbo305 posted:Driving from the shop, at normal street speeds, I could only pick up a tiny amount of difference in behavior, despite quite a few corrections to toe. If I don't have a data acquisition system and I don't drive all the same corners (like at a track) all the time, how hard do I have to drive a car to pick up on the effects of changes in settings? Put another way, does having lots of experience make you more sensitive? I noticed I could feel small changes to the way the car felt once I had enough experience to drive consistently. Having more experience will also tell you how that change should change the handling of the car so you might be looking for it more if that makes sense. Toe change, especially if dramatic, will show up pretty easily and more at the track.
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Its also extremely important to isolate changes and do one thing at a time; however, being at a track and doing a trackside alignment job might be out of the picture.
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Any SoCal peeps be interested in a track day this Sat or Sun at Autoclub Speedway? http://speedventures.com/events/eventdetail.aspx?id=391
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aventari posted:Any SoCal peeps be interested in a track day this Sat or Sun at Autoclub Speedway? I still only got 3,000 miles on my car lol. I might do Autocross but ehhhh.
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aventari posted:Any SoCal peeps be interested in a track day this Sat or Sun at Autoclub Speedway? I know some people doing that, but I still have oil leaks to chase down.
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Nov 13, 2012 08:52
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aventari posted:Any SoCal peeps be interested in a track day this Sat or Sun at Autoclub Speedway? Can I tempt you with Infineon on 11/17 for the low low price of $199, an excellent value (mixed group is not yet sold out  )link: http://trackmasters-racing.com/inde...20%20%20%0Aurle
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Ugh, jerks out west. Our race season is pretty much over/winding down out here on the East Coast.
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Admirable Gusto posted:Can I tempt you with Infineon on 11/17 for the low low price of $199, an excellent value (mixed group is not yet sold out I would sorely tempted if it wasn't 500 miles and 9 hours away  That's the worst thing about San Diego, no tracks less than 1.5 hours away Gonna make the trek to Laguna Seca next year no matter what though
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Infineon is one of my least favorite tracks in iRacing. Do you only ever see half of the track in real life?
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Well Chump Car has officially corrupted my family. I bought a Miata two days after I got back to Tennessee, it will be built to spec Miata rules. Dad has some work in Illinois so he is driving from there to NC to look at this track prepped E30 M3: 
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that is hottt Be careful with that motor though, it's an expensive piece of hardware. (pan baffle, crank scraper, accusump, etc)
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Nov 14, 2012 02:22
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This is video from my race on Sunday at Buttonwillow with NASA. The race director decided to invert the field after qualifying, so despite outqualifying the PTE field by 1+ seconds, I was at the back, behind a bunch of rotary-powered Rx7s (and an Rx3 at the front), all of whom make way more power than I am allowed to. Needless to say, the first ~15 minutes are pretty drat fun to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MagKQvtdsI
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Are you allowed to run knobby tires in NASA?
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I applaud your patience. The combo of their late apexes and your better brakes could have gotten ugly.
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Good driving. What's in that Miata? I particularly like the interior side mirrors. I love when the FB RX7 and the RX3 are hanging out next to each other having a bee-noise contest.
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Awesome video, that looks like it was a lot of fun edit: really impressive driving, I like when the E30 2 cars ahead of you almost lost it at Magic Mountain/Phil Hill aventari fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Nov 14, 2012 |
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Savington posted:This is video from my race on Sunday at Buttonwillow with NASA. Dope video, pretty intense. The near miss at the 6 minute mark made me flinch.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Good driving. What's in that Miata? I particularly like the interior side mirrors. It's a junkyard 01+ VVT motor with a full exhaust, AEM EMS, and a few other small mods. Suspension is XIDA Clubsport, wheels/tires are 15x9 6ULs and 205/50 Hoosier R6s. Built specifically for NASA PTE and WERC E3 (endurance racing).
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Do you still have the silly fast black turbo car? Great video.
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aventari posted:that is hottt He may end up pulling the S14 and keeping it as a spare for his street/show E30 M3 (yes he has the best garage) and putting in a S52 E36 M3 motor.
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Turn 10 at Sears Point claimed another car today. Moment of silence please for the bright red Evo X in the picture, fallen victim to the treacherous conditions (light drizzle, standing water, dirt on the track from other off-road excursions, possibly the remnants of the oil + kitty litter from earlier in the day when some dude in a 911 blew a hose at turn 3 and just kept loving driving why hello 13 quarts of oil what pretty patterns you make on the already wet track)
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Admirable Gusto posted:kitty litter from earlier in the day when some dude in a 911 blew a hose at turn 3 and just kept loving driving why hello 13 quarts of oil what pretty patterns you make on the already wet track)[/i] As a race flagger(I am for too poor to actually race.) this kind of stuff is very annoying. That and crossing over the entire track to exit the tarmac when you realize you have a leak. That being said, it is still better than the guy a few years ago who decided to park his Esprit on a short straight, then proceed to exit the car onto a hot track, and start working on his engine. We had to black flag all, and when he came in, he didn't understand why what he did was wrong.
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Savington posted:It's a junkyard 01+ VVT motor with a full exhaust, AEM EMS, and a few other small mods. Suspension is XIDA Clubsport, wheels/tires are 15x9 6ULs and 205/50 Hoosier R6s. Built specifically for NASA PTE and WERC E3 (endurance racing). Curious, 205's on a 9" wheel? I'm guessing that's to maximize contact patch with the tire being as wide as you're allowed in classing rules?
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A 205 R6 has an 8" wide tread, where the average all season in that size is only about 6.5, so it's not actually that much of a stretch.
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jamal posted:A 205 R6 has an 8" wide tread, where the average all season in that size is only about 6.5, so it's not actually that much of a stretch. That makes sense. Kinda makes things difficult when trying to compare tires - apparently star specs have a 7.4" tread width, RE-11's are 7.6", and no 205/50/15's are showing up for all seasons on tire rack. Few guys at autocross running 225/45/15 RS-3's (8" tread width) on 15x9's, and it doesn't look really stretched.
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I run a 225 Hankook Z214 on a 15x9 and it's a bit stretched. The rim is what lays on the ground but just barely. What's everyone's plans for the winter? I need to figure out my horrific miss and might actually finish vinyl wrapping the car. Some other minor things like adding a real oil pressure gauge and possibly data acq might happen if I can fix the miss somewhat early.
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So I'm doing this track day on the 16th Sunday, it may rain a bit but that just means a lot of drifting quote:$90 Track day at Willow Springs- Streets of Willow- Dec 15-16-Socal I'll be there with my E30, my brother will be driving his drift car, a JDM 180sx with SR20det
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aventari posted:So I'm doing this track day on the 16th Sunday, it may rain a bit but that just means a lot of drifting This weekend, drat... How do they run theirs? Speed ventures has color coded classes, do they work similarly? General question: If your car is brand new, what do you really need to bring to a track day? Brake fluid and pads and tools to change those? Longpig Bard fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Dec 11, 2012 |
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drat you Kkkalifornia and your year 'round race driving season!
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Just did one last weekend at CMP East track. Was fun, instructor offered to solo certify me, I told him Id like to get a few more DE events under my belt first (this was my 3rd event). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXAXrf26_SM A friend has issues with his car. He was told the brakes he bought could hold up, but in 1 25min session they (last run of the day) they went from 50% tread life to metal on metal. Pulling off the track he also had a axle seal pop out and drain the transmission. We had a fun evening putting it back together and limping it back home.
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Octopus Magic posted:drat you Kkkalifornia and your year 'round race driving season! Here in WI we have year 'round race driving as well. $20 for the day! 
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Bumming Your Scene posted:General question: If your car is brand new, what do you really need to bring to a track day? Brake fluid and pads and tools to change those? That would be my bare minimum, plus a quart or two of engine oil, a tire gauge, and painter's tape for numbers and headlights.
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Bumming Your Scene posted:How do they run theirs? Speed ventures has color coded classes, do they work similarly? Yeah same setup, color coded groups, beginner, intermediate, advanced, super-advanced I actually prefer SpeedVentures, but these guys are cheap What to bring for a new car, in addition to what was said, bring chairs, EZup, helmet, closed toed shoes, snacks, water, camera, paper towels and windex, air compressor or good bike tire pump for tires.. I could go on but I bring way too much because it's better than too little. Now I trailer my car though, so if something happens like what happened to Sadi's friend I'm not totally hosed. I did drive to the track for the last 9 years though and always made it back, but I did have to do some crazy repairs sometimes.
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I've made it back on this motor: x4And this clutch (separate events)  I figured I used up a lifetime of luck and now tow.
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