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I've got a SSD on its way for my new 15" MBP. Can I clone my existing HDD over to the SSD before I install? I have a USB enclosure. Anything else I should know before I install it?
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Nov 20, 2012 20:59
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ConfusedUs posted:I've got a SSD on its way for my new 15" MBP. The old, free version of Carbon Copy Cloner will do the trick
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Nov 20, 2012 21:11
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Bob Morales posted:The old, free version of Carbon Copy Cloner will do the trick http://www.bombich.com/download.html The "old, free" version will get support pulled for it soon and is only certified for Tiger and Leopard; it'll work for SL and up but don't bet the farm on it. In the author's words it is "not actively qualified for Snow Leopard and Lion" so if your poo poo doesn't get cloned right you've no one to cry to. Get SuperDuper if you want something for free that'll clone stuff including Mountain Lion. Shirt Pocket Software posted:You can download SuperDuper! v2.7.1 right now and back up and clone your drives for free— forever! Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Nov 20, 2012 |
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Nov 20, 2012 21:32
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Thanks guys. I wanted to make sure there wouldn't be any weird "gotcha" type things I needed to be aware of. Since CCC or SuperDuper can clone the existing HDD to the new SSD, I think I'm good to go.
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Nov 20, 2012 22:03
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I wonder what's going to happen with disk cloning when/if Fusion drives get popular.
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Nov 20, 2012 22:50
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kuskus posted:Although if replace the 3.5" drive in my Late 2009, I'm also hoping this $1.25 Apple 922-9158 will spare me software fan control.
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Nov 20, 2012 22:54
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Bob Morales posted:I wonder what's going to happen with disk cloning when/if Fusion drives get popular. It really seems to me that Fusion drives are destined to be short-lived. They exist now because people want storage capacity AND speed that is affordable. As SSDs get bigger and cheaper, the need for a hybrid solution will decrease.
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Nov 20, 2012 22:54
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ConfusedUs posted:It really seems to me that Fusion drives are destined to be short-lived. They exist now because people want storage capacity AND speed that is affordable. As SSDs get bigger and cheaper, the need for a hybrid solution will decrease. OEM pricing from Apple on a 2TB SSD isn't going to cost less than an entire MacBook Pro anytime soon.
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Nov 20, 2012 22:57
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Bob Morales posted:OEM pricing from Apple on a 2TB SSD isn't going to cost less than an entire MacBook Pro anytime soon. No, but how many people need 2TB of storage? 500GB may come standard in the next couple of refreshes. 256GB is already standard in a retina 15" MBP.
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Nov 20, 2012 23:31
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Binary Badger posted:http://www.bombich.com/download.html A word of warning, Super Duper will not copy over the RecoveryHD partition/volume. The pay version of CCC will. If you are using Super Duper, you will need to follow the instructions on this page to rebuild the Recovery HD. It looks complicated, but it is pretty easy actually: http://derflounder.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/creating-an-updated-recovery-hd/ Running the scripts will not delete or destroy the active volume. I have done this on running systems.
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Nov 21, 2012 00:01
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Can always use OS X's Disk Utility.
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Nov 21, 2012 00:04
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It's been mentioned before, but just putting a clean install of Lion / Mountain Lion on the new, blank disk/SSD and then using Migration Assistant to move everything over works wonders. First, you don't have to deal with the Recovery HD bullshit as a new one is made during the install (assuming you're using the latest installer, 10.7.5 for Lion and 10.8.2 for Mountain Lion) and you're getting a fresh, clean system free of any cruft you might have gathered up until now. And Migration Assistant will repair permissions of a lot of things as it copies over stuff. IMHO it's more reliable than doing a straight clone, and even with straight clones sometimes something fucks up. Never had any problems doing the MA route, have had some even using the pay version of CCC.
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Nov 21, 2012 00:29
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Binary Badger posted:It's been mentioned before, but just putting a clean install of Lion / Mountain Lion on the new, blank disk/SSD and then using Migration Assistant to move everything over works wonders. I'll second this, I haven't done a diskdupe since like 10.4. Migration Assitant works exactly as advertised. I've dragged the same user account through about a dozen installs now.
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Nov 21, 2012 04:44
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Sonic Dude posted:I don't know if 922-9158 has the same connector. We use 922-9229s and they work great. As long as it's the same connector and it reports in the same voltage range, you're good. AlternateAccount posted:On my late 2009, I just used a jumper wire out of an arduino kit and bridged across the connectors on the temp sensor, it's never made a peep. I can't imagine that the SSD gets hot enough for anything to care. Thanks to both of you.
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Nov 21, 2012 06:57
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So I need 2.5" SSD if I want to put one in my MacBook Pro? That's what Google is apparently telling me, but I wanna check with the experts before I pull the plug (I'm no computer expert by any means). e: I see there are disks called 2.5" x 1/8H, 2.5" and 2.5" Ultra Slim Line. The regular 2.5" is the way to go? Xabi fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Nov 21, 2012 |
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Nov 21, 2012 10:40
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Xabi posted:So I need 2.5" SSD if I want to put one in my MacBook Pro? That's what Google is apparently telling me, but I wanna check with the experts before I pull the plug (I'm no computer expert by any means). Any 2.5" SSD will do. They come in different heights, however. Almost all of them are 9.5mm, like the HD that's in your machine right now. 7mm is the next popular size for SSD's - those drives are thinner, and some laptops require them. There are also 12.5mm drives, if you've wondered why the larger 2.5" portable HD's are so 'fat', that's why. There are also 15mm drives according to Google but you won't find those in a laptop. You can use a thinner drive, but a thicker one usually won't fit. Also, you would be 'pulling the trigger'. 'Pulling the plug' would imply you are ending something.
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Nov 21, 2012 14:18
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I'm home for Thanksgiving and I figured I wanted to try the Guild Wars 2 Mac Beta client on my 2012 Macbook Air. I wasn't expecting anything, but it turns out it handles the game pretty well at minimum settings and is playable (at a low resolution, but w/e). My Air gets really super hot while playing the game near my left hand and the fan goes crazy. I know it's doing its job to try to cool the computer, but should I at all be worried about overheating? I'm not going to be playing games on this a lot (really only this weekend), but I'd rather new screw up this computer.
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Nov 21, 2012 15:18
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Doh004 posted:I'm home for Thanksgiving and I figured I wanted to try the Guild Wars 2 Mac Beta client on my 2012 Macbook Air. I wasn't expecting anything, but it turns out it handles the game pretty well at minimum settings and is playable (at a low resolution, but w/e). You won't hurt it, it will clock down and adjust the fans to stay within proper temperature range.
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Nov 21, 2012 15:22
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Binary Badger posted:It's been mentioned before, but just putting a clean install of Lion / Mountain Lion on the new, blank disk/SSD and then using Migration Assistant to move everything over works wonders. Growing up as a long time windows person I was naturally skeptical of MA. However, I've had a few harddrive failures in the past couple years and using MA with a time machine backup has been flawless.
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Nov 21, 2012 15:35
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Doh004 posted:I'm home for Thanksgiving and I figured I wanted to try the Guild Wars 2 Mac Beta client on my 2012 Macbook Air. I wasn't expecting anything, but it turns out it handles the game pretty well at minimum settings and is playable (at a low resolution, but w/e).
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Nov 21, 2012 18:31
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kuskus posted:Well, fiddlesticks. This might explain why it's out of stock and/or $30-50 everywhere. It's been a little while and I was half asleep when I did it, but iirc, the cable looked like:  The part in the background plugs into the board and the front part plugs into the hard drive. I had a bunch of these lying around, http://www.dfrobot.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=130#.UK1Ct2dvKiw, so I just put one end in each hole and then taped the whole thing up nice and neat with electrical tape and stuck it somewhere. edit: a little further reading shows me that there are actually different variants of that cable(http://files.macbidouille.com/mbv2/news/news_05_11/cables1.jpg) depending on what drive you have in your system. I just bridged the two holes that actually had wires going into them. ALSO, I know that someone out there was selling an external temperature sensor that would go into these blocks and that you could stick onto the casing of the drive like the older iMacs had, but if you're using an SSD, this is probably wasted money. AlternateAccount fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Nov 21, 2012 |
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Nov 21, 2012 22:08
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I bought this SSD for my new 15" MBP: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Hype...53548449&sr=1-1 First, I tried placing it in a USB enclosure, but OSX didn't see it. Neither did Disk Utility. Another drive loaded just fine in the enclosure. Just in case, I tried putting the SSD into the laptop itself. I booted up from a bootable OSX install USB disk, but the installer couldn't see the SSD either. Am I doing something wrong, or is this drive come to me DOA?
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Nov 22, 2012 02:44
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It's DOA
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Nov 22, 2012 04:05
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Bob Morales posted:Also, you would be 'pulling the trigger'. 'Pulling the plug' would imply you are ending something.
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Nov 22, 2012 18:34
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Voodoo Cafe posted:http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4088 Thanks, for this. I just now had time to check the thread, and I'll take it in when I have a chance. The site you linked says: Linked Site posted:Apple will service affected 15-inch MacBook Pro computers free of charge until three years from date of purchase. Apple will provide further extensions to this program as needed. This worldwide Apple program does not extend the standard warranty coverage of the affected MacBook Pro. I purchased this computer in April or May 2010, so I'm within the 3 year window but didn't ever purchase the extended Apple Care. I've never been in for any services. Just to be clear are they referring to all machines, regardless of any warranty status? I don't have a fruitsand in my area, is there a way to test it my self before making the drive to bring it in? iceslice fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Nov 23, 2012 |
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Nov 23, 2012 01:05
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iceslice posted:Just to be clear are they referring to all machines, regardless of any warranty status? It's a similar concept to a auto recall, you get free of charge repair even if the Mac is past the 1 year standard warranty window.
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Nov 23, 2012 07:03
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Any reason I shouldn't get a Time Capsule in the Black Friday sale today?
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Nov 23, 2012 15:50
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Lexicon posted:Any reason I shouldn't get a Time Capsule in the Black Friday sale today? If you don't need it.. Or the refurbs are cheaper.
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Nov 23, 2012 16:04
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I'd buy a NAS over a Time Capsule unless you really want an all in one solution with your router. I love my Synology NAS and AEBS combo. Although Time Machine has been admittedly, less than reliable with the Synology so I have it do Time Machine to it and an external USB drive at my desk.
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Nov 23, 2012 17:15
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Time Capsules have twice the RAM and a slightly faster CPU than the AEBS, probably to tackle the extra load of streaming data to the hard drive, but as FlashBangBob says, unless you intend to put everything on one device, it probably isn't worth it. Also be aware the Time Capsule is a lot bigger than an AEBS and runs hotter, and still has an internal fan that is practically useless.
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Nov 23, 2012 17:37
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DoktorLoken posted:I love my Synology NAS and AEBS combo. Although Time Machine has been admittedly, less than reliable with the Synology so I have it do Time Machine to it and an external USB drive at my desk. I really like the idea in theory of using a NAS, but it's that sort of reliability bullshit that gives me pause. I just want frictionless backup that I don't need to think about - and Time Capsule, despite its drawbacks, sounds like the best option. I'm not actually wild about the idea of coupling backup to a router, but it just seems like the least bad of available options for a household with 2 (soon to be 3) Macs - only one of which is operated by a nerd (me).
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Nov 23, 2012 17:48
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Lexicon posted:I really like the idea in theory of using a NAS, but it's that sort of reliability bullshit that gives me pause. I just want frictionless backup that I don't need to think about - and Time Capsule, despite its drawbacks, sounds like the best option. Have you considered some sort of online cloud backup? Carbonite, Crashplan, Backblaze? I've used both Carbonite and Crashplan and they're seamless.
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Nov 23, 2012 17:50
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ConfusedUs posted:Have you considered some sort of online cloud backup? Carbonite, Crashplan, Backblaze? Actually, I signed up for Crashplan today as they have an absurd 98% off (!) for one year sale. Maybe I won't bother with a Time Capsule - occasional external drive backup coupled with CrashPlan is probably more than sufficient.
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Nov 23, 2012 17:54
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I really wish I could, like, install Crashplan on my Time Capsule and have automated backups of the internal drive to the cloud. Only useful for people who actually use the internal drive for storage, which is nobody but me, so it probably won't happen 
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Nov 23, 2012 19:23
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NOTinuyasha posted:I really wish I could, like, install Crashplan on my Time Capsule and have automated backups of the internal drive to the cloud. Only useful for people who actually use the internal drive for storage, which is nobody but me, so it probably won't happen How are the transfer speeds when you access the Time Capsule for storage? Good enough to watch a movie?
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Nov 23, 2012 19:27
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NOTinuyasha posted:I really wish I could, like, install Crashplan on my Time Capsule and have automated backups of the internal drive to the cloud. Only useful for people who actually use the internal drive for storage, which is nobody but me, so it probably won't happen You *might* be able to do it with backblaze. They allow you to back up external drives to the cloud for nothing extra. I think it's supposed to be only drives that are connected to your computer, but you might be able to get it to work with the capsule. I've been using them for years and haven't had a problem.
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Nov 23, 2012 19:58
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Ideally, I'd have a reliable NAS based Time Machine backup that then backed up to a cloud service. But as far as I can tell, they're all too expensive for me.
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Nov 23, 2012 20:09
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Lexicon posted:How are the transfer speeds when you access the Time Capsule for storage? Good enough to watch a movie? Yeah definitely good enough for video. I just benchmarked mine and got 17.3MB/s write, 23.1MB/s read, wifi performance is probably the bottleneck. Any operation that involves a bunch of small files tends to choke though. So like, there's big delays listing and loading previews of directories with a bunch of individual files. Because Finder is poo poo and sucks at handling delays like that it can get annoying. RE: Using a cloud backup service with the network share, it works (with Crashplan) but it's just slow as hell and doesn't work right with my sometimes-on always-moving MacBook.
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Nov 23, 2012 20:56
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I'm set on getting the 15" RMBP in three months which will require me to get rid of my desktop PC. I was okay w iOS, but the more I think about it, the harder I find it to let go of my PC Steam game collection. Obviously there's the Bootcamp route, but not being an Apple user, I'm easily swayed by various opinions from folks that do own them, and they seem to fall broadly into "don't ever Bootcamp your Mac, it'll spoil it/destroy the HDD/kill performance". Is there any truth to that?
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Nov 24, 2012 01:51
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The only problem with running two OSs on a RMBP (as someone who has one) is I can't imagine putting two OSs on this small of a hard drive. I'm already down to just 90 something gigs remaining, and that's just my iTunes library and 3 Steam games (Bastion, The Walking Dead, Binding of Isaac). I haven't done Boot Camp yet, since my last computer was a Hackintosh that I turned straight over to Windows 7 when I got this one. From a quick Google search it seems that if you wanted to do Boot Camp, then it must be on that same drive as OS X. Which is too bad, because I would suggest getting an external USB drive otherwise. But then you'd need a virtualization program instead. I think the only real times people say "don't run Windows on Apple hardware" is when the person says they want to run Windows exclusively.
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