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V-Men posted:I love the paradox of how socialist healthcare is anti-American and results in piss poor service, and yet it's good enough for the troops. And old people, don't forget about them! 
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A whole grocery store with no food. God drat, America, God drat. P.S. Have a 1600 dollar, freedom m1911.  "... Let it begin here" and "... That every man be armed" on the reverse.
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I view guns as tools. That gives me a great idea- taking 90 cent Harbor Freight tools and turning them into 150 dollar Phillips-head screwdrivers with tampographed ultra-patriotic sayings on the handle. I should be able to rake it in, enough to get started turning 18v DeWalt cordless drills into ultra-patriotic 800 dollar THE FREEDOM TURNER sets.
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V-Men posted:I love the paradox of how socialist healthcare is anti-American and results in piss poor service, and yet it's good enough for the troops. I suppose all the pro-military folk would sing a slightly different tune if an insurer dropped coverage for soldiers' spouses and kids while they were deployed. There's two types of military health care coverage. There's Tricare Prime which is what all active duty members use and they can put their families on it too. Basically, the active duty member has to use military facilities for their healthcare. If the family has prime they have to use military facilities too but many times it fills up and get to use civilian places that you don't really get to choose. There is no deductible or fee for anything. If you're retired it costs a couple hundred to enroll and that's it. The other option is Tricare Standard. Tricare Standard is amazing. It's probably the cheapest insurance in the US. The deductible is crazy stupid low, basically everyone takes it and is in network. The only thing they don't cover is optometry visits. Tricare doesn't do dental, that's handled by another company and I pay $27 for full dental coverage. It's a really good deal. Anybody with half a brain would do standard but a surprising amount of people do prime. It is cheaper but you don't have to spend eight hours at a military clinic or wait two months for an appointment so it's money well spent. There's also no enrollment or monthly fees for standard. You just meet a deductible that is absurdly low. Most people think the Veteran Affairs handles military healthcare. They just handle veterans who aren't active or retired. For me, I was medically retired after ten years so I don't have to use them but they're adequate. They're also free for anybody with a certain disability percentage and free for any injury or illness that occurred while serving. For example, if you develop high blood pressure and get it documented while in the service, all your medical care relating to that is completely free. For regular non retired, non disabled vets, they can still get health care from the VA and it's really really really cheap. So all in all, Veterans and their families (to include ex-wives and former step children) have the best insurance in the country for what is essentially nothing. And the people that are entitled to it are the most ungrateful, ignorant, greedy, slimy, entitled pieces of poo poo. They refuse to believe it's socialized healthcare and rail against Obamacare. It's infuriating. It's one of the biggest cases of gently caress you got mine I have ever seen and it's really sad because 99% of people in the military don't do anything more difficult than anything anybody else does for a living. 90% of being in the military is sitting behind a desk in a cubicle. Modern troop worship is the biggest farce and it's disgusting. Most people in the military are scum. I know this first hand as I was in for just shy of decade and I'm pretty much embarrassed of the whole period of my life. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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 I love the Guardian's front page pictures, but sometimes I think they're sending me subliminal messages to kill major politicians 
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Almost forgot, Happy Repeal Day! H.L. Mencken celebrating the repeal of the 18th Amendment to the US Constitution
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bpower posted:
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V-Men posted:I love the paradox of how socialist healthcare is anti-American and results in piss poor service, and yet it's good enough for the troops. I suppose all the pro-military folk would sing a slightly different tune if an insurer dropped coverage for soldiers' spouses and kids while they were deployed. They don't see it as socialised. They see it as employer funded, juts like god intended (serfdom). (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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front wing flexing posted:So all in all, Veterans and their families (to include ex-wives and former step children) have the best insurance in the country for what is essentially nothing. And the people that are entitled to it are the most ungrateful, ignorant, greedy, slimy, entitled pieces of poo poo. They refuse to believe it's socialized healthcare and rail against Obamacare. It's infuriating. It's one of the biggest cases of gently caress you got mine I have ever seen and it's really sad because 99% of people in the military don't do anything more difficult than anything anybody else does for a living. 90% of being in the military is sitting behind a desk in a cubicle. Modern troop worship is the biggest farce and it's disgusting. Most people in the military are scum. I know this first hand as I was in for just shy of decade and I'm pretty much embarrassed of the whole period of my life. If it's any consolation the VA is kind of a dumping ground and practice yard for medical trainees, at least all the ones I've seen. 
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TyChan posted:Finally, a Kickstarter aimed at combatting the overwhelming, oppressive grip of the overweight mafia. Being fat is a choice for 99% for people. 
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LogisticEarth posted:Almost forgot, Happy Repeal Day!  
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V-Men posted:I love the paradox of how socialist healthcare is anti-American and results in piss poor service, and yet it's good enough for the troops. I suppose all the pro-military folk would sing a slightly different tune if an insurer dropped coverage for soldiers' spouses and kids while they were deployed. The argument I generally hear used is that they earned it and they're Are Troops who we should support. My GI Bill is used up so the only benefit I get anymore from the time I did in the Army is immunity from  YOU HATE THE TROOPS" crap in Facebook arguments.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG7fPmQhqeY Lleuwen Stefan, singing Gouloù Bev, the song she won the Liet International with last week. quote:Liet International was invented and developed in 2002 to give modern bands who sing in a minority language a stage. In ten years time Liet International has grown to be a multilingual alternative of the Eurovision Song festival, with the main difference that singing in English is prohibited. Liet International is organised by the Frisian foundation Liet International in close collaboration with its European partners.
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Syria is loading bombs with sarin gas, and the Syrian airforce is reportedly awaiting final orders from Assad to load the bombs onto bombers and gas their own people. CBS News Report 
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front wing flexing posted:So all in all, Veterans and their families (to include ex-wives and former step children) have the best insurance in the country for what is essentially nothing. And the people that are entitled to it are the most ungrateful, ignorant, greedy, slimy, entitled pieces of poo poo. They refuse to believe it's socialized healthcare and rail against Obamacare. It's infuriating. It's one of the biggest cases of gently caress you got mine I have ever seen God yes. My short time working at a VA clinic, plus my wife's experiences working at a military hospital hammered this poo poo home. Many, many walking personifications of "gubmint out of my Medicare", every day. You haven't lived until you've seen a perfectly healthy man in his fifties walk right past a waiting area full of this:  and bitch about the fact that as a COLONEL (they never say retired colonel, or former colonel), they shouldn't have to wait in a line for their loving Viagra prescription to be filled. gently caress retirees./
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Zeroisanumber posted:Syria is loading bombs with sarin gas, and the Syrian airforce is reportedly awaiting final orders from Assad to load the bombs onto bombers and gas their own people. No no no no no   If NATO has any honor at all they'll bunker buster Assad right now.
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Moist von Lipwig posted:Being fat is a choice for 99% for people.  Media saturation of impossible body images and body shaming are responsible for 200+ deaths a year and an uncounted number of eating disorder, which lower life expectancy and lead to other systemic diseases.
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Hasters posted:
 Excess mortality from obesity ranks in the hundreds of thousands of deaths per years. A couple of hundred bulimics or anorexics isn't much of an omelette to get a single percentage point drop in a figure like that.
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Hasters posted:
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Zeroisanumber posted:Syria is loading bombs with sarin gas, and the Syrian airforce is reportedly awaiting final orders from Assad to load the bombs onto bombers and gas their own people. Some dipshit commenter posted:Part of me says "so what.. let them" but then, the compassionate in me says that our weak government should do something more than say "Syria.. what are you doing... Syria stahp" .. Jesus Christ what is wrong with people? 
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Found this crazy flowchart on some Asian guy's tumblr.  Link for full pic: http://i.imgur.com/MJyF2.png
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Man, what the gently caress do you even do about the situation in Syria? I mean that sincerely, because I feel like every solution I've seen is more militaristic, which would probably end up making the situation worse, or if it doesn't, would probably not even help all that much.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:That's the worst loving attempt at a Godwin I've ever seen. I scrolled past it without seeing who posted it and somehow I still knew 
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Peven Stan posted:Found this crazy flowchart on some Asian guy's tumblr. This isn't accurate at all, I'm a white starving artist and I haven't noticed that fast-track  
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebtj3gDaE64 Australian PM addresses the nation about the End of the World.
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Omi-Polari posted:I half-jokingly made a comment about the U.S. military being the most socialistic institution in the country at a party and a right-wing jingo guy got really offended. Of course the military deserves to have their needs taken care of (!) unlike everyone else, he said. Ehh. I spent a summer in Venezuela visiting my extended family a few years ago. I actually didn't have much culture shock there for some reason, but on returning to the US I walked into a Top foods and felt like I'd stepped into some sort of crazy alternate crazy assed dimension. Particularly due to the giant candy enclave in the back of the store. If I'd walked into that mega-convenience store I probably would have had an aneurism     Yue Minjin
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I completely forgot that yesterday was Frank Zappa's death anniversary. http://youtu.be/yHIhsq9qHPk http://youtu.be/Nc2mmqiO8mk Darkman Fanpage fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Dec 6, 2012 |
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TyChan posted:Finally, a Kickstarter aimed at combatting the overwhelming, oppressive grip of the overweight mafia. 
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Is this really a thing? Holy poo poo am I glad I live here: Oh boy, if there's a culture that I want to emulate for how women should appear, it's Japan.  The world champion Women's Soccer team was forced to fly coach to and from the Olymplics while the Men's Soccer team flew business. Of course, the Women's team went on to take the Silver medal while the Men's team came in fourth. I'm not saying that being fat is fine (it's not), but this is not a good idea. This woman is apparently upset because men are telling her how to look, so she decides to blame fat people because in her view they aren't blamed enough? It's quite loving bizarre.
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Apotheosis posted:Care of Vicissitude and the PYF Badass thread: He didn't draw that final comic, unfortunately. Omi-Polari posted:It's a better photo. It's iconic. The other photos (crowds/mourners/ambulances) don't show us very much. I don't know, pictures like these:         Showed far more to me than whatever proto-fascist gesture he was making. It was certainly the most famous, though, but it didn't really affect me the way the pictures of the march did. That goes more to the subject matter of the pictures than their quality, though, I suppose. Sir John Falstaff fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Dec 6, 2012 |
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ekuNNN posted:This isn't accurate at all, I'm a white starving artist and I haven't noticed that fast-track Note that these are just language groups listed. It's like saying "Welcome to Europe, now speak Germanic, Romance, Celtic, etc". North America was incredibly linguistically diverse before Europeans showed up. Just California was more linguistically diverse than Europe.  Languages spoken in Europe in the 19th century 
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Moist von Lipwig posted:Being fat is a choice for 99% for people. Yeah dude 99% of fat people sit down one day and say you know what gently caress it I want to be fat. That is literally what they do, this is what a Choice is so it has to be. It has nothing to do with a media that effectively pushes unhealthy foods and habits on people and a capitalism that allows those foods to be the most easily accessible to most people. It has to do with people sitting down and Choosing to participate in their consumption. Moist von Lipwig posted:
You're also totally right about this, these things kill a lot of people and anything that kills less people is not significant and we shouldn't care about it. Also, the right way to get people to give up habits is to dehumanize them about having gotten hooked on them in the first place, this always works and doesn't contribute to anything lovely. Also agree about "Bunker Busting Assad," that will definitely fix Syria's problems just as Western intervention always does in the Middle East. Maybe we can even send in some BADASS Navy Seals, have you seen the like guns and poo poo those dudes have? 
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a false posted:Also agree about "Bunker Busting Assad," that will definitely fix Syria's problems just as Western intervention always does in the Middle East. Maybe we can even send in some BADASS Navy Seals, have you seen the like guns and poo poo those dudes have? I always wonder how much of this mindset is actually based on logic and how much is just shoveling "intervention" into the same broad category no matter what to justify complete defiance against anything that isn't American isolationism. At the expense of the people who are actually about to have nerve agents dropped on their homes, of course. For the record, Saddam won't be bombing sarin on innocent people anymore. 
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Soviet Commubot posted:Note that these are just language groups listed. It's like saying "Welcome to Europe, now speak Germanic, Romance, Celtic, etc". North America was incredibly linguistically diverse before Europeans showed up. Just California was more linguistically diverse than Europe. Erm, in 19th Century France, very few people actually spoke French. There were (and are) about three dozen regional languages, which at the time were the first (and often only) languages for the majority. 
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Volkerball posted:For the record, Saddam won't be bombing sarin on innocent people anymore. Except that Saddam wouldn't have had sarin in the first place, had the US not provided it. Nor would Saddam have come to power if the US and other Western powers hadn't overtly supported him. You know the saying 'If youll win the wars at home, therell be no fighting anymore'? well this applies to attempts at intervention abroad too.  edit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N93OCCBXGXc this songs for you Volkerball
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Volkerball posted:I always wonder how much of this mindset is actually based on logic and how much is just shoveling "intervention" into the same broad category no matter what to justify complete defiance against anything that isn't American isolationism. At the expense of the people who are actually about to have nerve agents dropped on their homes, of course. For the record, Saddam won't be bombing sarin on innocent people anymore. Do you honestly believe the Iraq war was about saving the people of Iraq who were being killed by Saddam's government, or even if it was (it wasn't) that the civilian toll in Iraq was realistically worth the number that we potentially maybe saved? Or that somehow the civilian toll is more tolerable because those people died in a different way? Or that the effects of the American presence in Iraq (and elsewhere) don't have further-reaching consequences? Remember, the Taliban, al-Qaeda, all of those terrible boogeymen that Americans (rightfully) despise were able to do pretty much everything they've done as a direct result of American involvement in a place we didn't need to be. But anyway after we drop this bunker buster on Assad without any civilian toll what happens then? We go home, wipe our hands clean and Syria returns to normal in our minds (ie we don't think about them anymore)? Pretty sure it's not quite that simple. Pic:  There's a company that makes a lot of this poo poo, targeted towards military, coopting Crusader imagery.
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Celebrations of the "Day of the First President" in Kazakhstan, celebrating Kazakhstan's first and only president, Nursultan Nazarbayev, head of government of the Kazakh SSR from 1984 to 1989, first secretary of the Communist Party of the Kazakh SSR from 1989 to 1991 and president of Kazakhstan from 1990 onwards. Text: Kazakhstan  Text: Nursultan  The crowd at the event.  Mr. Nazarbayev himself  A poster advertising the Day of the First President  A statue of president Nazarbayev. Here's a video overview of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66t8sPqyzDY In retrospect, here is Nazarbayev voting in the first Kazakh presidential election on December 1, 1990, which this holiday celebrates. He was a pretty important government functionary at the time, and was seen as the most prospective leader of the Union State that would have replaced the USSR if not for the August Putsch.  It's interesting how many benefits being a pro-US dictator of a resource-rich country generally offers you. You can have North Korea-style people jumbotrons and people dancing in formation, but still be considered a normal guy and not made fun of by pretty much everyone. At the same time, it's weird how he is still a pretty ineffectual persona, retaining the same aura he had of a communist party functionary, but now with a cult of personality that doesn't really fit him. Now on to the less rosy parts of his rule. Almost a year ago, a strike by oil workers in the western Kazakhstan city of Zhanaozen ended with internal ministry troops dispersing the demonstration and killing as many as 90 oil workers (17 officially). Here is a (upsetting, but generally work-safe) video of that event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9DBOcgQAOY A hunger strike began in May 2011, when 4000 workers demanded pay increases. Their demonstration was near an auto yard, and riot police were called in to stop the protest, which they did by beating up the strikers. After this (which ended with strikers pouring gasoline over themselves and taking out their lighters to get the police to stop), the strike continued in the city's central square although by August, the number of striking workers dwindled to 1800 due to a combination of both having loans to repay and pressures from authorities. For Independence Day celebrations, yurts were moved to the central square, where the strikers were previously located, instead of an empty space behind the stage where they were usually located in previous years. Yurt owners initially refused to place the yurts there, but the mayor convinced them by raising the price the city would pay for renting them and guaranteeing their safety. Later during the day, a column of high-schoolers and college students was brought to the main square as part of the celebrations, only to learn that the strikers still remained there. A skirmish started as a result, as the students wanted to leave their column, with the police not letting them. Loud music was played from the stage to drown out the noise, and was shut down by students destroying the speakers. The riot started at this point, police and city vehicles were torched, along with the local headquarters of the oil company. Riot police were brought in and opened live fire on the crowds, killing as many as 70, as noted above. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QipuMCU1QzI Military troops were brought in, and the riots were put down. Detainees were later reported to have been tortured and in some cases raped. At least one witness was found dead after the trials, where detainees were sentenced to 2-6 years in prison, had ended. This has been essentially suppressed from the Western media, largely thanks to Nursultan Nazarbayev's cozy relationship with Chevron and the US government. Additionally, the very name of the city is going to be changed from Zhanaozen to Beket-Ata.
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Mister Batman posted:It's interesting how many benefits being a pro-US dictator of a resource-rich country generally offers you. Yeah. If you haven't seen it already, I'd recommend watching Shadow of the Holy Book (part 1 right here, easy to find the rest of the parts through it, they're all on youtube) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7TElc8n7hU This documentary shows how western corporations were allowed access into Turkmenistan under Saparmurat "Türkmenbaşy" Niyazov's rule by providing translations of the Turkmen holy book, the Ruhnama, supposedly written by Türkmenbaşy himself.  Here's the huge statue of the book in the capital's central square. It opens and closes and plays passages from the book with accompanying video on a screen in the center. We never heard much (or anything) about Turkmenistan under Niyazov for the same reason as you mentioned with Kazakhstan, but his cult of personality was the only one rivaling the Kims for utter weirdness in recent memory. His successor has toned it down considerably. a false fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Dec 6, 2012 |
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