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acephalousuniverse
Nov 4, 2012

Ape Agitator posted:

I strongly recommend you watch Lawnmower Man 2. It's "profound" and "well" "worth your time". *

Still a tragedy that Grant Morrisson's Lawnmower Man sequel that was "the Matrix before the Matrix but with superheroes" never got made.

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Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

acephalousuniverse posted:

Still a tragedy that Grant Morrisson's Lawnmower Man sequel that was "the Matrix before the Matrix but with superheroes" never got made.

Wait, what's this?

acephalousuniverse
Nov 4, 2012

Lord Krangdar posted:

Wait, what's this?

http://www.popimage.com/profile/morrison/012501_grant4.html

quote:

Lawnmower Man: Why? What did you have planned to bring this franchise out of the gutter? Do you think sequels of a mainstream film can handle the type of ideas you have planned?

The owners of the Lawnmower Man franchise contacted me in 1995 and asked me to write treatments for two planned follow-ups which didn't ever materialize. The only real instructions I was given were to bend the LAWNMOWER MAN series in an X-MEN superhero-type direction. Although much of my 90s work was lost in an Apple Mac disaster, the treatments exist out there somewhere and my readers may be interested to hear that 'LAWNMOWER LAND', written in 95 with me still in the first flush of my abduction-experience mania, is about a group of young people who come to realize they are living in a computer generated simulation controlled by INVISIBLES-like extra-dimensional insect beings working through the human executives of a huge games and media multinational. When our young heroes first wake up to reality, they find themselves strapped to beds in a vast filthy hospital on a bombed-out, dying Earth.

The youngsters then realize that if they're living in a computer game then they must have computer sprite powers. By the end of it they're able to fly and they form a kind of superteam. The sequel had the gang searching for a secret online outlaw data-city known as the Infranet.

If all this had happened at the right time - a couple of years later - LAWNMOWER MAN 3: LAWNMOWER LAND might easily have been the first big Gnostic sci-fi action movie of 1998.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011
In other words, Grant Morrison is loving insane.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
He always has to scratch the Matrix itch, that guy. I wonder how he's never actually got a script made, he's so good at elevator pitches.

acephalousuniverse
Nov 4, 2012

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

He always has to scratch the Matrix itch, that guy. I wonder how he's never actually got a script made, he's so good at elevator pitches.

Ehh that interview is from a long rear end time ago (like 2001 I think?) when it was still fresh in his memory, I don't think he really talks about the Matrix stuff anymore.

ZombieParts
Jul 18, 2009

ASK ME ABOUT VISITING PROSTITUTES IN CHINA AND FEELING NO SHAME. MY FRIEND IS SERIOUSLY THE (PATHETIC) YODA OF PAYING WOMEN TO TOUCH HIS (AND MY) DICK. THEY WOULDN'T DO IT OTHERWISE.
Just watched Resident Evil 5: <something> --

I was a fan up until RE3. 4 was hugely disappointing.

By now, I'm pretty sure studios are just throwing money at the filmmaker and saying "hurry, make something." This movie is cobbled together and nie senseless. Alice is imprisoned in an Umbrella Corporation base and they try to convert her back to working for them by asking her who she works for and then blasting her with dubstep sounds which she apparently doesn't like. An intervention occurs and a skin tight outfit made mostly of belt buckles appears. She wears this awkward outfit and escapes. The facility is made out of holo-decks so there are different scenarios. A reasonably hot asian actress is introduced and shows the audience just how badly lines can be delivered. She has Batman's grapple gun. We see clones of all the familiar characters from previous films.

That's the plot really.

The dialogue in previous films was nothing to write home about but in this they decided that everyone should speak like they did in the very first Resident Evil video game. It's loving terrible to see a live action actor talk like this. It truly takes the series to Uwe Boll depths of suck.

The final fight during the last 15 minutes is well done and worth watching, if only to enjoy pint sized Michelle Rodriguez duking it out with some big men.

Mr Wind Up Bird
Jan 23, 2004

i'm a goddamn coward
but then again so are you
I watched The Devil's Rock because it was on Netflix insant and it looked trashy and I was bored. It had a neat premise and some good succubus makeup but it was all wrapped up in a boooooring movie. Not really bad, but unremarkable and uninteresting which is almost worse.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011

ZombieParts posted:

and then blasting her with dubstep sounds which she apparently doesn't like.

Umbrella's new secret weapon: the Bass Cannon

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

ZombieParts posted:

Just watched Resident Evil 5: <something> --

I was a fan up until RE3. 4 was hugely disappointing.

You, like, have this completely backwards. The first two were terrible, for different reasons. 3 was where the series started embracing how ridiculously stupid it was, and 4 took it to as far as you can go, where nothing made any sense at all and everything was just randomly thrown at you with no rhyme or reason, and is the peak of the series for that reason.

The basic rule is, if you're going to be bad, embrace it and be RIDICULOUS, which only 4 really "gets" (5 is too much of a dumb retread of 4 to be worthwhile).

Toaster Beef
Jan 23, 2007

that's not nature's way

King of Bleh posted:

I was skimming the past handful of pages of this thread looking for bold words to search for on Netflix and ended up watching Megan is Missing based on some vague "oh man the ending is so messed up!" post and all I can say is I am Not Happy about having made that decision.

God, tell me about it.

Toaster Beef posted:

So if you're planning on watching Megan is Missing, be ready to take in a pretty blatant display of a writer/director putting together something he can masturbate to later.

It was effective, I guess, in that it managed to be disturbing toward the end (more so than the Poughkeepsie Tapes, anyway, and that seems to be the nearest comparison) ... but other than that and thirty seconds or so toward the middle (literally, thirty seconds — there's one shot in particular that struck me as creepy) it really serves no purpose other than being something the writer/director very, very obviously put together as a monument to his own sexual itch.

That's the part that disturbs me more than anything else, actually. Alarm bells started going off when one of the main characters — a 14-year-old girl — spends about three minutes of screen time (it feels like it drags far longer) discussing, in vivid detail and directly to the camera, how when she was 10 she was essentially forced into giving a 17-year-old camp counselor a blowjob. I don't really care about the idea of young teens talking frankly about sex, but I also don't see why it was important to dedicate a significant chunk of time to it in the middle of the movie's opening act. It wasn't expository dialogue, it didn't serve a purpose in the overall narrative. It didn't do anything.

It only goes downhill from there, and while I guess it's fair to call it a case study in why you don't let your kids gently caress around on the Internet unsupervised, it's also far, far too hosed to actually show any of the children who could use the message the most, so again - the hell was the point?

Gah.

And I mean, here I am talking about it, so I guess he wins. Fucker.

Mind you, now that I've largely forgotten the movie I don't feel so angry toward it. I do generally think it was loving terrible, though.

Toaster Beef fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Dec 7, 2012

demozthenes
Feb 14, 2007

Wicked pissa little critta
I have to disagree with your viewpoint of the movie and particularly scene where Megan recounts her sexual assault. One of the overarching themes of the movie was how the girls are victimized over and over again and it's such a reoccuring part of their lives that they just accept it as normal at that point. It's the point where you realize that the kidnapping isn't a random, out-of-the-blue thing but rather something that she has been groomed for throughout her entire life. And it's uncomfortable to watch because it should be uncomfortable to watch a young girl recount her rape.

I really didn't like Megan Is Missing (is it even possible to "like" or "enjoy" that movie?) but I thought that aspect of the movie was well-played and absolutely relevant to real life.

Toaster Beef
Jan 23, 2007

that's not nature's way

demozthenes posted:

I have to disagree with your viewpoint of the movie and particularly scene where Megan recounts her sexual assault. One of the overarching themes of the movie was how the girls are victimized over and over again and it's such a reoccuring part of their lives that they just accept it as normal at that point. It's the point where you realize that the kidnapping isn't a random, out-of-the-blue thing but rather something that she has been groomed for throughout her entire life. And it's uncomfortable to watch because it should be uncomfortable to watch a young girl recount her rape.

I really didn't like Megan Is Missing (is it even possible to "like" or "enjoy" that movie?) but I thought that aspect of the movie was well-played and absolutely relevant to real life.

I'd probably disagree with what I wrote too, if I watched it again, but I have absolutely no interest in going back and seeing it once more. I fully acknowledge what you're talking about with regard to the themes and the idea that it's supposed to be uncomfortable — and I recall being very on board with what the movie was doing, right up until it got to that scene and went, in my opinion, completely over the top. Not as in 'those things don't happen,' because they absolutely do, but as in 'there's absolutely no narrative purpose to the nature of the detail we're getting.'

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

Darko posted:

You, like, have this completely backwards. The first two were terrible, for different reasons. 3 was where the series started embracing how ridiculously stupid it was, and 4 took it to as far as you can go, where nothing made any sense at all and everything was just randomly thrown at you with no rhyme or reason, and is the peak of the series for that reason.

The basic rule is, if you're going to be bad, embrace it and be RIDICULOUS, which only 4 really "gets" (5 is too much of a dumb retread of 4 to be worthwhile).

Yeah, I think 4 is pretty enjoyable (at least up there with 1, which is okay but never actually great). 5 was awful in almost every respect. The thing they got with 4 was a real sense of being in a video game world. Big boss fights, large setpieces, good environments. Most of the others are just wandering through blank streets or anonymous halls and don't feel much like a game where you get lots of different textures as you progress. Also, 4 gets the distinction of having an oversized boss monster that actually works in terms of movement and scale. Just a great scene for such a mediocre series.

I given them credit for which ever one just turned the whole world to dust. That takes some balls, conceptually. And in any other series that kind of effect would be canon for all future movies but Resident Evil can do whatever they want.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

demozthenes posted:

I have to disagree with your viewpoint of the movie and particularly scene where Megan recounts her sexual assault. One of the overarching themes of the movie was how the girls are victimized over and over again and it's such a reoccuring part of their lives that they just accept it as normal at that point. It's the point where you realize that the kidnapping isn't a random, out-of-the-blue thing but rather something that she has been groomed for throughout her entire life. And it's uncomfortable to watch because it should be uncomfortable to watch a young girl recount her rape.

I really didn't like Megan Is Missing (is it even possible to "like" or "enjoy" that movie?) but I thought that aspect of the movie was well-played and absolutely relevant to real life.

I thought that scene and the themes you're talking about were some of the "redeeming" parts of it (in the loosest possible sense), but the nuanced bits started feeling like they weren't actually The Point when we get literally 20 minutes of loving interminable torture, rape, and murder for an ending.

I read a humorous little blurb somewhere a long time ago that the best way to recognize pornography in film wasn't the actual filthy content, it was whether the filth was bookended by completely mundane activities extended to a completely unreasonable duration, and that's basically all I could think about during the burial scene.

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
"




College Slice
Caught a few movies I hadn't seen before in the past few days, thought I'd share my impressions.

To start with, Mountaintop Motel Massacre was a bit of a mess, but not so poorly-done as to be offensive. It had a bit of the late 1970s/early 1980s basic slasher feel to the script; the plot is basically an older woman getting released from an asylum, returning to her motel business, and going nuts on the guests who show up. Some cheesy cheesecake courtesy of two female cousins looking to get signed to a record label, and there's a preacher who throws in some really out-of-place discussion on the Kingdoms of Heaven and Hell. To go for a semi-meaningless description, it feels like a Super 8 jumble of The Shining and Psycho, with the character of the mother from Carrie running things.

Then there was Daddy's Girl, which can be summed up rather simply as The Good Son, but with a girl instead of a boy (and William Katt as the father). There's some silliness with the strength they give a 12-year-old at times, but it also has some genuinely creepy moments with the girl's tantrums. The sociopath part of the character also helps ameliorate the usual problems of child acting. Overall, not too special.

But then there was The Vineyard. God, I haven't come across something I've found so enjoyably cheesy and fun since the first time I saw Evil Dead 2. Written and directed by the star, James Hong, it's about a man who makes uncannily good wine and also happens to be seeking eternal life through human sacrifice. The 80s-ness seeps through pretty heavily at times, from the clothing of the characters, to the karate-skilled henchmen, to the scene where Hong is dressed in Chinese robes and a golden mask, groaning melodically while his guests nod their heads and kind of dance to power pop around him. Does this movie have its head together? No, but I loved it, and recommend it to pretty much any horror fan looking for some levity.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



I watched Silent Night today. I thought it was great! The story wasn't great, but it was enough to support the plot. The acting in my opinion was great on all parts, be it the lead character detective, the killer, or the victims. The best performance was by Malcolm Mcdowell (Who I thought was great in the Halloween remake), who's role as the egotistical full of himself police chief was hilarious and well done. The kills were pretty creative, gory and satisfying. The ending was good too, added a nice twist. Plus there was boobs and a "garbage day" reference, so that was awesome. Did anybody else see it?

Kevar
Jan 1, 2005
gimmar

Xandoom posted:

I watched Silent Night today. I thought it was great! The story wasn't great, but it was enough to support the plot. The acting in my opinion was great on all parts, be it the lead character detective, the killer, or the victims. The best performance was by Malcolm Mcdowell (Who I thought was great in the Halloween remake), who's role as the egotistical full of himself police chief was hilarious and well done. The kills were pretty creative, gory and satisfying. The ending was good too, added a nice twist. Plus there was boobs and a "garbage day" reference, so that was awesome. Did anybody else see it?

It was entertaining, but I don't know if I'd recommend it. It was shot pretty well and as cheesy as it was, I enjoyed the Red/Green lighting in the climax.

My favorite part was probably the most poorly acted The random horrible teenage girl who gets immediately murdered. Her just slapping pills out of her moms hands ("What are you doing!? Those are mommy's heart pills!") and then demanding to be taken to the mall and just being horrible. Followed by the immediate satisfaction of her being murdered

Not nearly enough Donal Logue though

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Kevar posted:

The random horrible teenage girl who gets immediately murdered. Her just slapping pills out of her moms hands ("What are you doing!? Those are mommy's heart pills!") and then demanding to be taken to the mall and just being horrible. Followed by the immediate satisfaction of her being murdered

Not nearly enough Donal Logue though

I agree with all this! At first I thought the Mom was a drug addict and her daughter was simply stopping her, it was a great twist on that and very satisfying to see that bitch get killed

Also, the part where The priest gets killed is awesome. He definitely deserved it, and the kill was great and the whole part with the old lady and the killer was awesome

Kvlt! fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Dec 9, 2012

ravenkult
Feb 3, 2011


Has anyone watched ''Red Lights''? Is it any good?

Whispering Machines
Dec 27, 2005

Monsters? They look like monsters to you?
I liked it. Cillian Murphy :neckbeard:
It's way more of a thriller than a horror though, and there wasn't really anything scary in it. Good cast, enjoyable story.

I think I'm gonna rent Rec 3 tonight and watch it while getting some work done. I have this terrible curse where I have to watch all the movies in a series. Maybe it'll somehow give me inspiration for these concepts I need to work on :v:

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Red Lights was pretty good. Like it's mentioned, it's not really "horror" so much as a thriller/mystery.

Decent movie though.

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:

Whispering Machines posted:

I think I'm gonna rent Rec 3 tonight and watch it while getting some work done.

My heart goes out to you. What a terrible movie.

Whispering Machines
Dec 27, 2005

Monsters? They look like monsters to you?

Dissapointed Owl posted:

My heart goes out to you. What a terrible movie.

:stare:
You weren't kidding.

Things that this movie had in common with [REC] and [REC2]:
1. There was a lot of biting
2. There was a lot of blood

Did Paco Plaza see either of those movies? Or any zombie/possession movies, ever? Was this even made by a person, or did google somehow assemble a movie by throwing random search terms together?

It was a mess. Alright, so, infection. And... possession, I guess. But there was almost no similarity to the infection in the previous movies. Some people went down and then were infected, some were infected almost immediately. No black eyes, except for one person- it was mostly blind/cataract eyes. Maybe that's a really nitpicky thing, but I thought the makeup and contacts in the previous movies was insanely creepy and great.

Possession? Well, they couldn't go into a church. And even though they were possessed by some "greater, sinister being" they didn't really act it- they froze, mesmerized, by the priest reciting scripture, but in the previous movies (and, uh, every other movie with people possessed by not-super-strong demons) they get all angry and agitated by religious verse. And then in the mirror and a tv screen we see the Medeiros zombie dmeon from the other movies, which is all we see of her.


Things wrong with this movie: all of it. All of it was wrong.

v I know. That's why I ask. :v:

Whispering Machines fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Dec 10, 2012

acephalousuniverse
Nov 4, 2012

Whispering Machines posted:

Did Paco Plaza see either of those movies?

Well, considering he co-directed both of them, I would assume he had.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Just watched The Shining and Rosemary's Baby in order to catch up on classic horror films, and also watched The Last Exorcism which I found delightful.

Any suggestions? Loved these films.

demozthenes
Feb 14, 2007

Wicked pissa little critta

Raepdog posted:

Any suggestions? Loved these films.

Have you seen The Exorcist III? It's one of my favorites.

Repulsion and The Tenant are both good Polanski movies, too - you've already seen Rosemary's Baby, these are the other two parts of his "Apartment trilogy." All very different movies but worth watching.

foodfight
Feb 10, 2009

Raepdog posted:

Just watched The Shining and Rosemary's Baby in order to catch up on classic horror films, and also watched The Last Exorcism which I found delightful.

Any suggestions? Loved these films.

Repulsion is wonderful. I absolutely loved the special effects.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!
Yeah, Repulsion is probably in my top 10 horror movies ever. I'll also echo The Tenant and Excorcist III.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



So I usually watch slasher/tortureporn movies. I want to expand my tastes a bit horror wise. I've seen the classics (The Exorcist, Blair Witch, Rosemary's Baby, etc). I want to be terrified! Any reccomendations for true horror that would really scare me? As I said, I usually watch goreporn so it can have gore in it but I would prefer the focus to be on scaring me. Thanks!

demozthenes
Feb 14, 2007

Wicked pissa little critta

Xandoom posted:

Any reccomendations for true horror that would really scare me?

It would be helpful to know what scares you in real life.

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Personally I found The Descent terrifying. Even now, years later, it still gives me chills.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Volume posted:

Personally I found The Descent terrifying. Even now, years later, it still gives me chills.

I keep hearing about this movie but remember it looking bland in trailers.

Tonight I think I'm going to watch The Devil Inside since exorcisms scare the poo poo out of me, but the I'm definitely going to pick up The Descent to see what the buzz is about.

EDIT: Oh man, I've been thinking of The Ruins.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Do not, under any circumstances, watch The Devil Inside.

Rather, watch The Last Exorcism.

I repeat, avoid TDI at all costs.

Toaster Beef
Jan 23, 2007

that's not nature's way

Gonz posted:

Do not, under any circumstances, watch The Devil Inside.

Rather, watch The Last Exorcism.

I repeat, avoid TDI at all costs.

I want to emptyquote this on every page, even in threads that have nothing to do with horror movies

demozthenes
Feb 14, 2007

Wicked pissa little critta

Gonz posted:

Do not, under any circumstances, watch The Devil Inside.

Do watch The Devil Inside if you don't care about plot but enjoy practical special effects that include human contortionists. Have your thumb on the fast-forward button and stop when things start looking like a yoga class.

The Ruins is one of the worst, corniest horror movies I've ever seen.

v The tunnel scene in Frontière(s) made my claustrophobic friend cry. Other claustrophobic movies: Rec., Misery, Spoorloos, and The Divide.

demozthenes fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Dec 11, 2012

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Ah, I should have specified. I saw the Descent and it scared the poo poo out of me (I'm terribly claustrophobic and it was a nightmare). Perhaps some more claustrophobic horror?

leokitty
Apr 5, 2005

I live. I die. I live again.
Creep (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381966/) is uh, creepy and has some really scary scenes.

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Xandoom posted:

Ah, I should have specified. I saw the Descent and it scared the poo poo out of me (I'm terribly claustrophobic and it was a nightmare). Perhaps some more claustrophobic horror?

Buried takes place within a coffin.

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CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Raepdog posted:

I keep hearing about this movie but remember it looking bland in trailers.

Tonight I think I'm going to watch The Devil Inside since exorcisms scare the poo poo out of me, but the I'm definitely going to pick up The Descent to see what the buzz is about.

EDIT: Oh man, I've been thinking of The Ruins.

Oh, God, The Ruins. Decent movie, but stuck with me because anything that gets inside you and wiggles around just wigs me the gently caress out. Same with Shivers/They Came From Within.

And now I'm remembering Invaders from Mars...

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