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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Socialism posted:

The worst offender though is the atrocious trackpad. I've tried different drivers and hacks but the multitouch gestures are basically a huge joke. Trying pinch-to-zoom - 1/3 of the time it gets it right, 1/3 it's the opposite and 1/3 nothing at all. I even checked a few other X220 machines but same deal.

Despite all the PC fans whining about Ultrabooks being better, they still haven't caught with the Mac trackpad experience including the effective use of gestures to improve the interface.

Ultrabook trackpads certainly have improved over the horrible 1st gen performance but still haven't caught up yet with the Mac gold standard experience.

And also getting a Mac with almost no bloatware pre-installed, just some useful basic Apps is really nice compared to a Lenova laptop that somehow chews up double digit space on a SSD just for bloatware.

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Mercurius
May 4, 2004

Amp it up.

Socialism posted:

The only real (minor) issue I have is the share drive/folder discovery similar to what MrBigglesworth is experiencing. The "shared" category on the left hand side of the Finder disappears/reappears periodically, so I have to use command+K to get to my NAS from time to time.
As a pretty easy workaround so you don't have to use cmd+K to connect all the time, after you've connected to the network share you want you can drag the folder icon (next to the name of the share and to the right of close/minimise/fill) from the title bar of the finder window into the toolbar along the top of the finder window (next to where the search field is) and it'll stay there. When it's not connected, it'll show up as a ? and you can click on that to reconnect it.

You can also drag folders into the sidebar in Finder but I've found that it's a bit wonky at re-connecting network shares and they'll sometimes disappear out of the sidebar entirely. If you want, you can also create an alias/shortcut to the share by dragging the same folder icon into a finder window (or the desktop) and holding down command and option while you drag.

Given we're getting more into the software and usability side of the OS, you guys might want to head over to the Mac OS X and Mac Software thread for any more of these sort of questions.

Socialism
May 9, 2009

Mercurius posted:

As a pretty easy workaround so you don't have to use cmd+K to connect all the time, after you've connected to the network share you want you can drag the folder icon (next to the name of the share and to the right of close/minimise/fill) from the title bar of the finder window into the toolbar along the top of the finder window (next to where the search field is) and it'll stay there. When it's not connected, it'll show up as a ? and you can click on that to reconnect it.

You can also drag folders into the sidebar in Finder but I've found that it's a bit wonky at re-connecting network shares and they'll sometimes disappear out of the sidebar entirely. If you want, you can also create an alias/shortcut to the share by dragging the same folder icon into a finder window (or the desktop) and holding down command and option while you drag.

Given we're getting more into the software and usability side of the OS, you guys might want to head over to the Mac OS X and Mac Software thread for any more of these sort of questions.

Neato, I'll give that a shot and pop in the software thread for further questions.

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004
So I currently have a Late 2009 iMac. I have an opportunity to pick up a 2008 Mac Pro and 30 Cinema HD display for what I think is a steal.

Overall, I've been happy with my iMac, but it is starting to struggle with editing the latest video files I have been throwing at it from my new GoPro - 1080p60 . Is this Mac Pro an obvious upgrade or more of a sidegrade? Is upgrading the Mac Pro feasible?

Edit - I forgot to mention the Mac Pro is the 3GHz and has two of the 7300GT video cards. I assume that is only to drive extra displays and has no performance benefit?

VVVVV Well that was strange timing!

Legdiian fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Dec 12, 2012

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Finally got my Early 2008 Mac Pro hooked up for USB 3.0. And I did it for $36 bucks. If you don't give a poo poo about USB 3.0 or Mac Pros, skip this post. Also, I take no responsibility for whatever you decide to do, this is how I did it with the help of posts on the OSX86 and InsanelyMac forums.

So the other day I was in a computer store and saw the Lacie USB 3.0 card on sale for $36 bucks. I thought what the heck, maybe I can save some money as most cards that claim generic Mac USB 3.0 compatibility sell for $55 or more.

Bought the card and found it's a rebranded generic USB 3.0 card with an NEC D720200A controller chip. LaCie's drivers only let you hook up LaCie USB 3.0 hardware to them. That's pretty bogus, but luckily folks in the Mac hardware hacking community have kept up and have now made available a fairly stable (for the 2 days I've had this working) solution.

First, you have to take the LaCie card and flash it to firmware v.4.0.2.0 on a PC running Windows XP/Vista/7 with the updater available on this page. Just a warning- this'll probably void the warranty and there's no current way of flashing the LaCie card to its original state. On the PC side you'll probably want to install the Windows drivers for the card first before inserting the card, and THEN do the flash.

While you're flashing, you can go to the Mac and download and install this hacked version of LaCie's latest USB 3.0 driver with the LaCie device check removed and other stuff done to offer better USB 3.0 support on the Mac. If Stuffit unpacks it you might have to use chgrp and chown to get it to have the same permissions as the other kexts, or it won't work.

Use the automated Kext Utility to install this or use manual instructions here in the second post on this page.

Once you reboot and verify that the card still works, you can then take it over to the Mac Pro (or if you have a Hackintosh tower, leave it in and boot to the Mac), install the card (for 2008 models and earlier, use either slots 3 or 4, later can be any slot, I used slot 4.)

If everything went right, your Mac Pro now has two working USB 3.0 ports! It shows up in System Information as a 'Super-Speed Bus.'



So far the card recognizes: a Lexar USB 3.0 32GB JumpDrive Triton, a Lexar USB 3.0 32GB JumpDrive S73 flash drive, a Patriot Supersonic 32 GB flash drive, a Rosewill SATA/USB 3.0 converter hooked up to a generic 3.5" drive, and a generic transparent red plastic MicroCenter USB 3.0 16GB flash key. Haven't tried hooking up a hub yet, although some say on the other forums that the driver posted on the OSX86 forums will recognize them.

I've formatted the devices with GUID/exFAT, MBR/FAT, and HFS+ partitions using Disk Utility and the exFAT drives can be read by XP, Vista, (both with exFAT patches) and 7.

Edit: haven't run any benchmarks yet but copying files seems a lot peppier than on USB 2.0.

Edit 2: similar results might be had with Expresscard, but I remember reading somewhere that on MacBook Pros, the speed limit for data is 2 Gbps.

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Dec 12, 2012

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!

Legdiian posted:

So I currently have a Late 2009 iMac. I have an opportunity to pick up a 2008 Mac Pro and 30 Cinema HD display for what I think is a steal.

Overall, I've been happy with my iMac, but it is starting to struggle with editing the latest video files I have been throwing at it from my new GoPro - 1080p60 . Is this Mac Pro an obvious upgrade or more of a sidegrade? Is upgrading the Mac Pro feasible?

VVVVV Well that was strange timing!

On the surface, they're probably pretty comparable. The memory in the iMac is slightly faster, I think, for one plus to it.

Take a look at these Geekbench scores:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/218416 - Notice he's running an old 32-bit of Geekbench, so the score might be a little higher with the 64-bit client.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1393741 - But still the iMac scores pretty similarly.

decypher fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Dec 12, 2012

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Just gained back 17 gb of disk space on my 128 gb Air by wiping a bunch of not-used-often-enough-to-trump-music Steam games. It was incredibly annoying to have to restart the thing every time it hit a memory wall with iTunes, PowerPoint, and a bunch of pages open in Chrome.

Looks like a change might be in order: Now the question is if I go the "wait for the summer and pick up a 2013 Air with 256 gb of space" route, go the iMac/iPad mini route, or see if I can get the Air written off by my job and do both....

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004

decypher posted:

On the surface, they're probably pretty comparable. The memory in the iMac is slightly faster, I think, for one plus to it.

Take a look at these Geekbench scores:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/218416 - Notice he's running an old 32-bit of Geekbench, so the score might be a little higher with the 64-bit client.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1393741 - But still the iMac scores pretty similarly.

Hmmm I think the Mac Pro in that test is an 8 core system and I think the one I'm looking at is a 4 core. If that's the case maybe I shouldn't even bother.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Legdiian posted:

Hmmm I think the Mac Pro in that test is an 8 core system and I think the one I'm looking at is a 4 core. If that's the case maybe I shouldn't even bother.

Probably not. Given that your iMac is from 2009, I imagine that it's probably got a Core 2 Duo in it. Why don't you save the money you were gonna spend on the old Mac Pro, sell the old iMac, and put all of the money toward one of the new models? Heck, even the quad-core 2011s scream compared to the '09. Either one should have no trouble making mincemeat of your editing jobs.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Electric Bugaloo posted:

Probably not. Given that your iMac is from 2009, I imagine that it's probably got a Core 2 Duo in it. Why don't you save the money you were gonna spend on the old Mac Pro, sell the old iMac, and put all of the money toward one of the new models? Heck, even the quad-core 2011s scream compared to the '09. Either one should have no trouble making mincemeat of your editing jobs.

And it's pretty dismal looking back at how the Mac battery life has really improved since 2009. The new lower power CPUs and integrated graphics make a massive difference.

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004

Electric Bugaloo posted:

Probably not. Given that your iMac is from 2009, I imagine that it's probably got a Core 2 Duo in it. Why don't you save the money you were gonna spend on the old Mac Pro, sell the old iMac, and put all of the money toward one of the new models? Heck, even the quad-core 2011s scream compared to the '09. Either one should have no trouble making mincemeat of your editing jobs.

Is there anything I can do to squeeze some life out of that 2008? I could get it for $500 INCLUDING the display. I dunno that just seems super cheap to me. Even if I had to put in an SSD or something.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Legdiian posted:

So I currently have a Late 2009 iMac. I have an opportunity to pick up a 2008 Mac Pro and 30 Cinema HD display for what I think is a steal.

Overall, I've been happy with my iMac, but it is starting to struggle with editing the latest video files I have been throwing at it from my new GoPro - 1080p60 . Is this Mac Pro an obvious upgrade or more of a sidegrade? Is upgrading the Mac Pro feasible?

Well, the 8-core Mac Pro has 4 internal drive bays with SATA II for you to RAID up, or you could get a nice RAID card and an external array and beef up your throughput that way.

quote:

Edit - I forgot to mention the Mac Pro is the 3GHz and has two of the 7300GT video cards. I assume that is only to drive extra displays and has no performance benefit?

If it's the 3 GHz and appears as MacPro2,1 in its About This Mac > More Info screen, it's got to be the 8-core model, which should give you more CPU power than your iMac, depending on what apps you're using and whether they are written to take advantage of multiple cores. Eight Xeon cores running at 3 GHz beats a Core 2 Duo running at 3 GHz, I think?

The 7300GT cards are bottom of the barrel, they barely qualify as graphics accelerators, they are like PCI card versions of the Intel GMA 950s, only not quite as bad but close. You'd be better off running your main screen with an Apple Radeon HD 5770, which WILL work in this model ($250 and still sold by Apple in their online store) and are compatible with Final Cut X and most other apps that use Core Graphics. Keep one of the 7300 GTs to run an unaccelerated monitor for your palette/tool selection panels.

Only real caveat to the 8-core MacPro is that it won't run anything past regular Lion, OS X 10.7.5. But your 2009 iMac can run Mountain Lion if you need it.

quote:

VVVVV Well that was strange timing!

Sure was, wasn't it?

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Dec 12, 2012

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Legdiian posted:

Is there anything I can do to squeeze some life out of that 2008? I could get it for $500 INCLUDING the display. I dunno that just seems super cheap to me. Even if I had to put in an SSD or something.

Yeah, but you could save those $500, sell your iMac for, like, another $500 if it's in good shape, and put the money toward a new one of either size- and those include the display too.

I'm not saying that the Mac Pro's a bad option, but you're gonna have to pump some money into it to make it competitive with machines four years younger. You're looking at probably another $500 to upgrade those poo poo GPUs, fill it with RAM, and put a (small) SSD into it.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Dec 12, 2012

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004

Binary Badger posted:

Well, the 8-core Mac Pro has 4 drive bays with SATA II for you to RAID up, or you could get a nice RAID card and an array and beef up your throughput that way.


If it's the 3 GHz and appears as MacPro2,1 in its About This Mac > More Info screen, it's got to be the 8-core model, which should give you more CPU power than your iMac, depending on what apps you're using and whether they are written to take advantage of multiple cores. Eight Xeon cores running at 3 GHz beats a Core 2 Duo running at 3 GHz, I think?

The 7300GT cards are bottom of the barrel, they barely qualify as graphics accelerators, they are like PCI card versions of the Intel GMA 950s, only not quite as bad but close. You'd be better off with Apple's Radeon HD 5770s, which WILL work in this model ($250 and still sold by Apple in their online store) and are compatible with Final Cut X and most other apps that use Core Graphics.

Only real caveat to the 8-core MacPro is that it won't run anything past regular Lion, OS X 10.7.5. But your 2009 iMac can run Mountain Lion if you need it.


Sure was, wasn't it?

So It's definitely a 4 core system. Shows up as a MacPro1,1. Looks like it was upgraded to 6 GB of ram. Here is a dumb question about upgrading the video card. If I'm only going to have one display, is there a benefit to purchasing the two cards? I'm guessing maybe one of them can do graphics calculations while the other one displays them? I only ask because it looks like you can buy single cards on eBay.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Legdiian posted:

So It's definitely a 4 core system. Shows up as a MacPro1,1. Looks like it was upgraded to 6 GB of ram. Here is a dumb question about upgrading the video card. If I'm only going to have one display, is there a benefit to purchasing the two cards? I'm guessing maybe one of them can do graphics calculations while the other one displays them? I only ask because it looks like you can buy single cards on eBay.

Those cards suck. Tell him to keep the 7300GTs and you just buy one 5770 from Apple's store. The 5770 has two display ports and 1 GB VRAM so it should be able to drive/accelerate two monitors just fine, including the 30-inch you said he was selling.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Legdiian posted:

So It's definitely a 4 core system. Shows up as a MacPro1,1. Looks like it was upgraded to 6 GB of ram.

Okay, then I definitely stand by my case. You'd absolutely have to put more RAM in the thing and the quad core '08 Xeon still isn't really going to hold a candle to the Ivy Bridge stuff. Just get an iMac, dude.

It's a four year old computer and it's only going to get more outdated and less capable/compatible as time goes on.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Dec 12, 2012

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


I'd have to agree, especially if you get the new 27-inch iMac with the top graphic option, the 680MX Kepler-class chip; it'll have 2 GB of VRAM so you could hook up a 30-inch display in addition to the built-in one.

Also, the new iMac will have a quad-core CPU at 3.4 GHz, 4 USB 3.0 ports, two Thunderbolt ports (both of which can be used as monitor ports), and internally you can have two drives hooked up to SATA 6.0 Gbps ports, one of which can be preconfigured as a SSD drive for fast boot and a standard 3.5 mechanical hard drive for the mass storage part.

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004

Binary Badger posted:

I'd have to agree, especially if you get the new 27-inch iMac with the top graphic option, the 680MX Kepler-class chip; it'll have 2 GB of VRAM so you could hook up a 30-inch display in addition to the built-in one.

Also, the new iMac will have a quad-core CPU at 3.4 GHz, 4 USB 3.0 ports, two Thunderbolt ports (both of which can be used as monitor ports), and internally you can have two drives hooked up to SATA 6.0 Gbps ports, one of which can be preconfigured as a SSD drive for fast boot and a standard 3.5 mechanical hard drive for the mass storage part.

I would love that iMac, but with the CPU/Graphics upgrade I'm looking at $2400 with a 7200rpm drive. Maybe I'm not using the configure page correctly, but I can't figure out how to specify a second hard drive. It seems like you have 3 choices. A 7200 rpm drive, the Fusion drive or a giant 768GB flash drive for a whopping $1300 dollars! Am I missing something?

Thanks for the input guys I appreciate it.

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004
If I did a $300 CPU upgrade to my $500 Mac Pro, wouldn't I be looking at something like this?

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1394471

That seems like tremendous bang for the buck.

This video makes it seem fairly painless. I'm just trying to find a way to keep my iMac for my girlfriend and not have to shell out ~$2000 on another system. I'm having a hard time finding another Mac (even refurbished/used) that can get me those numbers for that cost ($800). Should I not be so focused on these benchmark numbers?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Legdiian posted:

If I did a $300 CPU upgrade to my $500 Mac Pro, wouldn't I be looking at something like this?

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1394471

That seems like tremendous bang for the buck.

This video makes it seem fairly painless. I'm just trying to find a way to keep my iMac for my girlfriend and not have to shell out ~$2000 on another system. I'm having a hard time finding another Mac (even refurbished/used) that can get me those numbers for that cost ($800). Should I not be so focused on these benchmark numbers?

It doesn't have to be the $2400 iMac, you know. Heck, the base model 27"- or one of the 21" ones (with an external display, if you think the screen's too small) would be a worthy improvement. I just think that the 2008 Mac Pro would be more trouble than it's worth to keep running and compatible in the near future- especially when you're talking about spending at least $300 extra on upgrades to it. All of a sudden, it's not a $500 machine that you got for a steal. It's a ~$1000 machine that you're kludging in order to stay up-to-date.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


He said its a 4-core and a 1,1 so its an original, first gen MacPro that started selling in 2006.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Binary Badger posted:

He said its a 4-core and a 1,1 so its an original, first gen MacPro that started selling in 2006.

Even worse then. I missed that- I just assumed it was a 4-core from '08. Yeah, no way in Hell then.

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004
Sorry I was mistakenly calling it a 2008 because it was sold until 2008 (January 7th I guess :( ) So yeah I'm just asking for a headache.

I purchased my 2009 iMac with 0% financing with the Bar Clay Card. After I paid it off, I never used it so I received a notice about a year later that they were closing the account. Has anyone had any experience with the Bar Clay card in regards to multiple 0% purchases? I'm guessing I can just reapply and get approved again?

Am I correct in my understanding that the new iMacs only allow a single drive? I'm guessing the fusion drive is the way to go? There is no way I can pay $1300 for a pure flash drive.

Haggins
Jul 1, 2004

Bob Morales posted:

Looks like it: (macmall sales tax)

I don't think they do charge sales tax to everyone. I just put a Mac in my cart, entered my credit card and address, and got to the final checkout before I clicked order. I'm in South Carolina and it said 0 sales tax. That would be pretty shady if they charged me an extra $200 after I hit order.

It's probably just like any other business that sells goods online. If they don't operate or have stores in your state, they won't charge tax. Unless maybe your in one of those states that makes you pay tax on Internet goods.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

me your dad posted:

Is it possible to just buy a power cable for a Macbook Pro 13"? I don't need the adapter part that plugs into the wall - just the cord.

All I see are the combo packs for $80 :sweatdrop:

It's a regular figure-8 cord.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Haggins posted:

I don't think they do charge sales tax to everyone. I just put a Mac in my cart, entered my credit card and address, and got to the final checkout before I clicked order. I'm in South Carolina and it said 0 sales tax. That would be pretty shady if they charged me an extra $200 after I hit order.

It's probably just like any other business that sells goods online. If they don't operate or have stores in your state, they won't charge tax. Unless maybe your in one of those states that makes you pay tax on Internet goods.

Yeah it's just having a brick and mortar presence which causes the website to charge tax for only certain states.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Legdiian posted:

If I did a $300 CPU upgrade to my $500 Mac Pro, wouldn't I be looking at something like this?

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1394471

That seems like tremendous bang for the buck.

This video makes it seem fairly painless. I'm just trying to find a way to keep my iMac for my girlfriend and not have to shell out ~$2000 on another system. I'm having a hard time finding another Mac (even refurbished/used) that can get me those numbers for that cost ($800). Should I not be so focused on these benchmark numbers?
The current $799 Mac mini benches faster than that. Granted you'd be stuck with the integrated GPU but considering how old/crappy those 7300s are it might not be a big deal, main thing* with Mac minis is to stick in a SSD and bump the RAM 8-16GB.

*ok well, that's basically the only thing you can do to them, besides adding a second drive.

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004

japtor posted:

The current $799 Mac mini benches faster than that. Granted you'd be stuck with the integrated GPU but considering how old/crappy those 7300s are it might not be a big deal, main thing* with Mac minis is to stick in a SSD and bump the RAM 8-16GB.

*ok well, that's basically the only thing you can do to them, besides adding a second drive.

Hmm that is an interesting suggestion. Can I use my late 2009 iMac as a display? I assume upgrading the memory and SSD after purchase is the way to go?

kuskus
Oct 20, 2007

Legdiian posted:

So I currently have a Late 2009 iMac. I have an opportunity to pick up a 2008 Mac Pro and 30 Cinema HD display for what I think is a steal.

I have your iMac. Yes you can use it as a display (MDP). I used an MDP cable to the Thunderbolt on an Air and it drove the 27" just fine.

Is read/write your hangup for GoPro 1080p60 footage? You should keep it and upgrade it. Many disk utilities said the internal HDD that came with the iMac wasn't recommended for HD footage editing. You can upgrade the graphics to 2011 iMac graphics (6970 2GB), 32GB of RAM (1333MHz), pop in an SSD or a better, bigger HDD and get the read/write speeds you need for your GoPro 1080p60fps graphics for less than the cost of a new iMac. Let's say graphics are 400, an SSD and optibay are 200, and that ram is 140. Seriously. I'm keeping 'til it's dead. Really though the SSD should make your difference. Send me a footage file in PM if you want me to test something.

Edit: And if you really want to keep the dream alive you can upgrade your CPU to the last possible i7 of that gen that can take the same wattage. I think it's 3GHz? Need to google. Still not worth trading up to a machine you can't open w/o heatgun IMHO unless someone else is paying.

kuskus fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Dec 12, 2012

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop
Is there a new keyboard comparable to the last apple keyboard before the aluminium models? Or should I just buy the old stock 661-3800 apple keyboard?

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
I'm looking at picking up one of the new iMacs for my home machine. Couple questions:

Any huge glaring problems with them that should make me think twice?
Are they reallllly that thin? In other words is it a big enough difference to make them worth buying instead of refurb previous model?
How is the real world performance on the Fusion drive? Is it worth the extra cost?

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Which iMac are you getting? If it's the 21" then the hard drives are slow as balls. Even something simple like starting up iTunes takes a long time. They are thin but it's not like you save any desk space. They take up the exact same amount of room.

The tests show the Fusion drive is fast because it's basically a 128gig SSD for your OS and most used apps. I'd pay the extra cost for it.

E: have you used a Mac MIni with the default hard drive before? If you're ok with that then the regular 21" should be fine.

Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Dec 12, 2012

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
If I get one it will definitely be the 27". Funny. I had no idea the 21" model had 5400 RPM drives. My work machine is a Mac Mini with the dual 7200 RPM config and it seems to be fast enough for stuff.

Jose Oquendo fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Dec 12, 2012

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

The 27" uses regular desktop 7200rpm drives so I don't think you can lose with them. I'd probably pay the extra for Fusion there as well. Booting up in 15 seconds is really nice but it's definitely a luxury item.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
I've got an SSD in my MBP and Win PC so I know how awesome they are :)

I just didn't know if the Fusion thing was a gimmick or somehow a bad idea. thanks man.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Mu Zeta posted:

If it's the 21" then the hard drives are slow as balls. Even something simple like starting up iTunes takes a long time.
The old 21" had a 3.5" 7200rpm drive! :argh:

Mu Zeta posted:

Booting up in 15 seconds is really nice but it's definitely a luxury item.
Firefox starts instantly, Photoshop starts really fast, etc. It's a must-have for today's computers :smug:

kuskus posted:

Many disk utilities said the internal HDD that came with the iMac wasn't recommended for HD footage editing.
The 2011 27's I have taken apart have 1TB green drives. Ugh.

Harry Totterbottom
Dec 19, 2008

MrBigglesworth posted:

Yeah trying to learn the shortcuts and gestures. Thanks for the CMD+Space option, that's pretty badass!

Install Alfred
Disable Cmd + Space for Spotlight (System Pref-> Spotlight -> Uncheck Spotlight menu Keyboard Shortcut)
Set Alfred shortcut to Cmd + Space

Beaucoup Cuckoo
Apr 10, 2008

Uncle Seymour wants you to eat your beans.
Double-tapping Cmd is also a nice way to do it.
:goonsay:

Beaucoup Cuckoo fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Dec 12, 2012

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Is anyone having issues with auto-connecting to known wifi networks under 10.8?

MBP9,1 and it goes through these phases where I have to manually select the wireless network every time it wakes up from a sleep. It happens most often when I'm at home, which I've been assuming is due to the fact that there's 20+ networks in range of my apartment and maybe it's just having problems spotting my home network. But it's also been happening at work where there's only one network.

It'll behave like this for a few days before it goes back to properly picking up my preferred networks.

Googling around this apparently happens to some people but none of the solutions (reboot router, renew dhcp leases, re-configure network on the mac) have done anything to aid me.

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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Any word yet on how Fusion drives handle Windows partitions? I'm lustily eyeing the new 27" iMac and I'd like to put the Windows on it (no idea if I should go with 7 or 8) so I can play some of them newfangled steam powered Skyrim-land computer games on it.

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