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kuskus posted:Link? Can't find it on their site, twitter, or anywhere. The 21" memory is replaceable, you just have to get the case off.  http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/12/autopsy-shows-27-imac-is-positively-austere-on-the-inside/ OWC is including foam sticky tape with their RAM upgrade to put it back together. http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/1600DDR3I16P/
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Bob Morales posted:The 21" memory is replaceable, you just have to get the case off. Thanks, I know not many people have received their 27" yet, but it's sounding like it has a way to upgrade the ram without removing the screen?
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Legdiian posted:Thanks, I know not many people have received their 27" yet, but it's sounding like it has a way to upgrade the ram without removing the screen? Yeah the 27 has a ram door on the back and is about as easy to change as any other machine.
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Bob Morales posted:27" Teardown from iFixIt That picture is from the 2009 iMac teardown... I can't find a teardown of the new one, usually the teardowns don't show up until the computers are actually shipping.
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ShadeofBlue posted:That picture is from the 2009 iMac teardown...
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canned_fruit posted:Similarly is it not advisable to use an external hard drive in the same way as an internal drive? Should I not be installing applications on it? Any music people know if installing VSTs on an SSD is actually worth it as opposed to a HDD? (This is where a lot of space will be taken up) You can move most applications to an external, though if they have an installer you may need to move them after installing to the OS drive. Just move the .app and don't screw with anything else. The .app is usually a huge majority of the data installed anyway. Plugins install to either /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins or ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins if you want to move them and use a DAW that lets you pick a folder for plugins. If you use Logic or another DAW that doesn't let you choose, you may be able to store them on another drive and put an alias or symlink in the "Plug-Ins" folder to point to that folder (I haven't tried it). Moving plugins to an HD from an SSD would likely only make them initialize faster. Once they are in memory it shouldn't make a difference. quote:Also does anyone know how loud each computer is in relation to each other? I'm only doing amateur recording and don't have any baffling or sound isolation from the computer. It shouldn't be an issue unless you are using fig-8 or omnidirectional mics. Just try to keep the computer out of the polar pattern.
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Legdiian posted:They shipped this week and people have been receiving them. I would expect a tear down in the next few days. Pictures of the new 27" torn apart on Ars Technica.
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I'm getting a new Macbook soon. How much difference would I notice between this one: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1405914 and this one: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1405924 ? I cant make much sense of the stats here but its about a 300 dollar difference.
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Those arent even specs it just says one cpu is better than the other. You would notice no difference between the cpu.
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Just migrated everything over the my new 27" iMac. Popping in 32Gb of ram was dead simple. Migration assistant continues to impress, even though I had to install some software so that my 3Tb Seagate drive was useable in its new Thunderbolt dock. It runs nearly silently and is quite cool compared to the 2008 iMac it replaces. No apparent impact from the Fusion drive yet, but I just moved over a heck of a lot of data and I'm sure it will take time to cache my The screen is quite nice, no glare to speak of but quite a lot cooler than the old 24". Perhaps it will get warmer over time as some older models did. This thing really makes me want to keep a clean, minimalist desk. It is amazing that even from the front you can sense how thin it is. I have yet to do anything to tax the processor and graphics card (I went top configurable spec for both), but I am happy to answer any questions...
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Nitr0 posted:Those arent even specs it just says one cpu is better than the other. You would notice no difference between the cpu. Sorry, its the first two on the refurb page here: http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/macbook_pro/15
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Ultimate Mango posted:Just migrated everything over the my new 27" iMac. Popping in 32Gb of ram was dead simple. Can you post pictures? Can you try loading up a game a few times and see if loading times improve?
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canned_fruit posted:I think I've pretty much decided on a Mac mini at this point. Checking the Geekbench score, a maxed out mini only gets about 1000 less than a maxed iMac. Interestingly the bump from 2.3 to 2.6GHz has about the same difference in score as the maxed mini to maxed iMac, so for $100 I think I'll definitely do that after all. Granted, I'm not too sure how Geekbench works and I'm pretty sure it doesn't take GPU into account. Anyway yeah Geekbench is all CPU, well that and memory bandwidth since that feeds the CPU. Whether it's worth for you it is something for audio goons to help answer, search around for others using Mac minis and your apps, might be specific forums, or audio threads around here that might be better to ask in (...since specific forums tend to attract the crazies). Most CPUs these days are basically just fast or faster. Looking at the Intel CPU pages, the 2.6ghz one might be a bit faster GPU wise, the max clock is 1.25 vs 1.2 ghz...but the base clock for both is 650mhz so I'm not sure how much that actually plays out in practice, if it's even noticeable. quote:I think I will go for an external hard drive over installing one myself, that one you listed japtor looks pretty good, although I'm not sure if Thunderbolt would have any benefit over USB 3.0. From what I read it should be limited by the drive speed rather than transfer speed (for mechanical drives at least). (Meanwhile I have a 2011 model so TB is my only super fast external option  )Dauher posted:Sorry, its the first two on the refurb page here: http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/macbook_pro/15  According to these I guess the newer one is a nice improvement (but might vary based on whatever clocks they're using in those MBPs?): http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6750M.43958.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html
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Coughing-up Tweed posted:Moving plugins to an HD from an SSD would likely only make them initialize faster. Once they are in memory it shouldn't make a difference. Awesome, thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. Coughing-up Tweed posted:It shouldn't be an issue unless you are using fig-8 or omnidirectional mics. Just try to keep the computer out of the polar pattern. Cool, my condenser has those options but I never use them. Hopefully it should be okay. japtor posted:I'm surprised the possible fan loudness didn't scare you off, although I guess that other post about mics addressed that? I read on the internet the new mac minis are pretty quiet. I don't know how they relate to the iMac but I think it would be so much easier to isolate anyway that it's probably the better option. japtor posted:Anyway yeah Geekbench is all CPU, well that and memory bandwidth since that feeds the CPU. Whether it's worth for you it is something for audio goons to help answer, Checked Gearslutz and realised they have a thread exactly suited to my situation. They mostly seem to have decided on the 2.6 GHz Mac mini with SSD along with an external HD. I'll do this too I think, the 2.6 is only $100 more and could be handy. Plus I've already saved so much by not going for the iMac. Thanks to everyone for all the help!
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A while back somebody in here said something about using an SD card to give him/herself a little more wiggle room on a laptop with an SSD. I've never purchased one before, so I was wondering if this is a legitimate way to go about expanding one's available memory? It doesn't seem like you could put anything but documents or some music on them. That's no problem if it's the case. How reliable are these things? Is there a particular brand I should stay away from? I was thinking about getting a 64GB for around fifty bucks. Is that the sweet spot as far as price versus value these days? I just got my 15" MBP and the thing is pretty rad. I'm glad I pulled the trigger and have an opportunity to get away from my old 11" Air. Thanks for the help in sussing out what's appropriate for my computer usage, people.
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I use this one with my Macbook Air http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007M51IZM/ref=wms_ohs_product Stores all my music and misc documents. I used to have a slower Amazon brand one and it got annoying. The faster speed one I linked is much better.
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Sandisk is a good brand for SD cards. Buy the highest class you can afford.. in my experience, the actual witnessed write speeds are about no better than 1/2 the claimed speed of the card. Read speed get much closer to the advertised speed.
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Arivia posted:Pictures of the new 27" torn apart on Ars Technica. I saw the pics. I wonder if it is easy to replace with my own SSD. I had a 2009 iMac and switch the HD was rather simple.
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OatmealRocks posted:I saw the pics. I wonder if it is easy to replace with my own SSD. I had a 2009 iMac and switch the HD was rather simple. Just remember, the screen is now glued on, not held in by magnet magic.
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Mu Zeta posted:Can you post pictures? Can you try loading up a game a few times and see if loading times improve? Loading things repeatedly does seem to speed up performance, but pretty much everything is super fast regardless. Here are a few pics with everything set up. Yes, I have a lot of things wired. From the front it looks clean but it is a mess in the rear.  WFT, two mice and a mess of headphones.  I couldn't find an SD Card to fill the slot, and I have thunderbolt stuff daisy-chained so I have an ugly open port there, too. Maybe if I get an Apple display I can use that connection.  It looks thin even from the front, but from the top its amazing.
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Sometimes when I'm watching Netflix on my Macbook Air in clam shell mode it starts dropping frames like crazy after a while. Any ideas why? Is there a way to know if it's because it's too hot and it's limiting the processor? Am I at risk of damaging it?
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There's a hardware sensor cutoff so it's nearly impossible to damage your machine that way. Are you running the latest revision of the OS with all updates applied? If anything it's probably lovely Intel graphics drivers, which they still need 3-4 revisions to get right even on the Windows side. I watch NetFlix all day long sometimes on an old nVidia 9400M MacBook in clamshell mode and nothing melts. Could also be the Mac version of Silverfast making GBS threads the bed too, but see above.
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Binary Badger posted:I watch NetFlix all day long sometimes on an old nVidia 9400M MacBook in clamshell mode and nothing melts. What browser do you use? I'm using Chrome and it seems it's not really supported. I wonder if it's that.
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I know it's probably a ways off but any ideas on when we'll see updated MacBook Airs?
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DoktorLoken posted:I know it's probably a ways off but any ideas on when we'll see updated MacBook Airs? June/July.
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DoktorLoken posted:I know it's probably a ways off but any ideas on when we'll see updated MacBook Airs? When new chips come out. And by that, I mean the low-voltage Haswell chips which are supposedly not going to be seen until Q3 2013.
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gmq posted:Sometimes when I'm watching Netflix on my Macbook Air in clam shell mode it starts dropping frames like crazy after a while. Any ideas why? Is there a way to know if it's because it's too hot and it's limiting the processor? Am I at risk of damaging it? I actually saw a post about this at work, it's a known issue. I don't have a way to check if there's a fix until tomorrow though.
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DoktorLoken posted:I know it's probably a ways off but any ideas on when we'll see updated MacBook Airs? It's pretty much a yearly update that follow Intel CPU improvements. Of course I imagine bigger updates such as trickle down improvements from the Retina laptops will probably be few years down the road.
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gmq posted:What browser do you use? I'm using Chrome and it seems it's not really supported. I wonder if it's that. I use Safari, but its really the Silverfast plugin that Netflix relies on since its the only DRM thats not iTunes that they trust on the Mac. Sometimes I want to get a current refurb MBA but I'm still hung up on any Intel based GPU since the horrors of the GMA 950/X3100 days, and sooner or later there'll be some show stopping bug we're gonna have to wait weeks for that gets quietly released so Apple doesn't get embarrassed yet again at launch time..
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Is there any utils out there to test the sanity of the AMD graphics on an MBP? It seems whenever the computer switches to AMD , the screen starts getting super glitchy in a manner that looks like, well it looks like its just hosed in the head and broken. With gfxCardStatus I can see it only happens when its in AMD mode, and if forced into intel mode it stops. But I dont know if its a hardware or software issue.
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gmq posted:Sometimes when I'm watching Netflix on my Macbook Air in clam shell mode it starts dropping frames like crazy after a while. Any ideas why? Is there a way to know if it's because it's too hot and it's limiting the processor? Am I at risk of damaging it?
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I'm probably going to sell my 11" MBA pretty soon here. Is there anything special I need to do when I'm reformatting the drive before I ship it out?
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TheState posted:I'm probably going to sell my 11" MBA pretty soon here. Is there anything special I need to do when I'm reformatting the drive before I ship it out? Which model and how much?
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FlashBangBob posted:Should at least format the drive using a one-pass zeroing format. Reinstall of the OS from the stick was also really simple. This way everything is clean and nice for whoever gets your machine.
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Ultimate Mango posted:This. The mountain lion Recovery image linked earlier in the thread works. I used it today on my old iMac. Dead simple to create a bootable USB stick, then boot with that and do a three or seven pass drive wipe (three took six hours, should be faster on the SSD on your air). Three is overkill on an SSD.
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Bob Morales posted:When new chips come out. And by that, I mean the low-voltage Haswell chips which are supposedly not going to be seen until Q3 2013. Are these Haswell chips suppose to be super great? I want to replace my 2010 era 13" MBP with a new 13" MBA, but I don't need to and can wait another half year for the new ones. The way I see it, I think the current era MBA is already more powerful than my MBP, and my MBP is still doing great, but I like new and shiny things.
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