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The real question is why with so many redundant powers in MP they haven't implemented either Slam or Defense Drone. Are they saving them for a rainy day or something?
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Also N7 probably doesn't recruit people named xXxSNIPER420xXx that are 12 years old and shout at team mates for 'kill stealing' and decide to lay on the floor and bleed out instead of using medigel right when you're about to retrieve information critical to the war effort. edit: you could go on all day with this but I'll stop because you get the idea  more edit: Also how the hell can every single shop on the Citadel be Shepherd's favourite shop on the Citadel? Shepherd's a dick. Quote-Unquote fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Dec 18, 2012 |
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Dec 18, 2012 17:08
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Ehh, I suppose when the entire galaxy is at stake, the Alliance will take whatever it can get 
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exquisite tea posted:The real question is why with so many redundant powers in MP they haven't implemented either Slam or Defense Drone. Are they saving them for a rainy day or something? Defense Drone sucks, but I have no idea about Slam. They haven't used Defensive Matrix either, even though it would have made more sense than Fortification for GethSol.
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Dec 18, 2012 17:18
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So I'm coming back to the game with free time over the holiday. A lot has changed! Is this list from the OP still a fairly accurate representation of the weapon hierarchy? I played a couple of matches last night and got a nasty surprise from an invulnerable dark cloud chasing me around the map. Thankfully, the team was very understanding and was nice enough to pick my dumb rear end up every time I'd walk around a corner into it.
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Dec 18, 2012 17:19
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Burning Mustache posted:Ehh, I suppose when the entire galaxy is at stake, the Alliance will take whatever it can get You fuckin' noob, you stole my kill and I'm trying to get the fuckin' Guardian kill 'cheevo you goddamn fuckin' killstealing noob *spends the rest of the battle at the LZ sulking* *Earth gets blown up*
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Dec 18, 2012 17:20
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Beach posted:So I'm coming back to the game with free time over the holiday. A lot has changed! Is this list from the OP still a fairly accurate representation of the weapon hierarchy? That hazard map is the worst, I did pretty much the same thing when I started playing again.
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exquisite tea posted:The real question is why with so many redundant powers in MP they haven't implemented either Slam or Defense Drone. Are they saving them for a rainy day or something? I seem to recall a Bioware dev saying Slam wouldn't work in MP for whatever reason. What I'd really like to see is Flare from the Omega DLC. 
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Beach posted:So I'm coming back to the game with free time over the holiday. A lot has changed! Is this list from the OP still a fairly accurate representation of the weapon hierarchy?
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Beach posted:So I'm coming back to the game with free time over the holiday. A lot has changed! Is this list from the OP still a fairly accurate representation of the weapon hierarchy? Kind of. There have been a couple of boosts to some guns that probably shifted them into a different category. The Eagle isn't the useless piece of junk it used to be, it's basically a decent SMG for your pistol slot. The Acolyte doesn't need to be charged anymore and is a pretty good shield stripper (and stagger machine) now. The Black Widow is the single best sniper rifle for actual sniping purposes (i.e. Infiltrators). The Sabre was buffed recently but it still doesn't really know what it wants to be (right now it's kind of an un-scoped semi-auto sniper rifle for your AR slot). In general, the Harrier is still king of ARs (although the lighter ones such as the Phaeston or even Vindicator have their use for caster classes), the Hurricane is the unquestionably superior SMG and there is literally no reason to use any SMG but that if you have one (especially now that SMG ULMs work), and with the shotguns it's down to personal preference. Claymore, Reegar, Piranha, Crusader, Wraith, Raider and GPS are all excellent but serve kind of different roles and their range / spread / capacity differences basically come down to your playstyle. Quote-Unquote posted:You fuckin' noob, you stole my kill and I'm trying to get the fuckin' Guardian kill 'cheevo you goddamn fuckin' killstealing noob *spends the rest of the battle at the LZ sulking* *Earth gets blown up* You realize this is exactly how this would play out if ME happened in real life, yes? :I
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Extra Smooth Balls posted:That hazard map is the worst, I did pretty much the same thing when I started playing again. It's really hard to see with a thermal scope or hunter vision on as well since you're trained to ignore anything that's not highlighted. I played a game a while back where I accidentally pissed that swarm off constantly with a thermal scoped BW, half the time just because the bullet when through a guy and into the swarm. Cheap Vodka posted:I seem to recall a Bioware dev saying Slam wouldn't work in MP for whatever reason. What I'd really like to see is Flare from the Omega DLC. Slam is unused because it only works on unshielded guys and they don't want to add another pull to the game or do a singularity style overhaul. Defense matrix has some balance issue as well. Elotana posted:The Acolyte is a lot better now that it doesn't have to charge, but basically. This, but I'll also add that any of the guns that don't come from a DLC are currently bugged in a good way; you can use any of the mods that add weight and the weight penalty won't actually be applied in game. If you use ultralight materials on any of your guns it will apply the correct penalty to all your guns though. This is really good for snipers and shotguns since they have the best added weight mods.
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precision posted:Even better. Warp, Lash, Cluster Grenades. Fantastic set of powers imo Gahh, grenades. I suck at grenade classes. I either use too many (and have to run around trying to get more instead of shootin' dudes) or too few.
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Beach posted:So I'm coming back to the game with free time over the holiday. A lot has changed! Is this list from the OP still a fairly accurate representation of the weapon hierarchy? With the new-ish High-Velocity Barrel, some of the low-damage, high ROF have become more viable. Harrier still has the best damage output, even at I or II, but the Phaeston, Collector AR, GPR, and Argus are all great, if properly modded for armor reduction and reliable headshots. The Mattock is still fantastic too, as long as you hate the tendons in your hand.
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Dec 18, 2012 17:43
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Something about the Mattock sound effect is just so drat satisfying.
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LogicNinja posted:Gahh, grenades. I suck at grenade classes. I either use too many (and have to run around trying to get more instead of shootin' dudes) or too few. BatAdept is almost a straight upgrade of Drell Adept. Warp isn't as good as Reave but Lash is infinitely better than Pull because it can detonate, it does (some) damage to Armor, you can fling Abominations into your teammates' faces. I'm thinking 6/6/6/4/4 and actually taking Grenade Capacity for once. Equip a level V Grenade gear, use Warp and a Grenade to kill all the things.
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precision posted:BatAdept is almost a straight upgrade of Drell Adept.
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Elotana posted:The downgrade from Warp < Reave is way more important than the improvement of Lash > Pull Warp *does* give bigger biotic explosions (and Expose), but I've soured on Lash--it's pretty unreliable--and the Drell gets movement speed and Reave (hits multiple targets, instant so undodgeable, gives DR). Shields ain't no thang with an Acolyte anyway.
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Dec 18, 2012 18:24
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Has anyone heard if they'll release any new maps, or is this pretty much what we get? I seem to remember a lot of places in game that would make fun mp maps (Rannoch anyone?).
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Dec 18, 2012 18:30
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Kiss Kiss Bang Bang posted:Has anyone heard if they'll release any new maps, or is this pretty much what we get? I seem to remember a lot of places in game that would make fun mp maps (Rannoch anyone?). No they haven't said anything. If they do another DLC there will be maps but I think hazard versions of the DLC maps may be more likely then new maps. They never announce this sort of thing until just before it's ready to go out so it'll be January at the soonest since we still have classes from the last DLC waiting to come out.
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Dec 18, 2012 18:38
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I'm seriously impressed at the amount of content they have put out for this, considering everyone expected Mass Effect multiplayer to be some kind of bastard child of the main game. I'm guessing as long as those gear packs keep printing money they will keep adding more stuff.
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Dec 18, 2012 18:54
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Kiss Kiss Bang Bang posted:I seem to remember a lot of places in game that would make fun mp maps (Rannoch anyone?). They've kind of already done that. One on Rannoch itself hasn't been done, but Hydra's assets were taken from a scrapped quarian mission, and they've hit every other Council race homeworld with the other DLC maps. Also, with 13 maps and 6 hazard variants, we're not exactly hurting for choice here. A couple last ones to make it an even 15 or 16 might be nice, though. To say nothing of some more creative hazards on other maps; I love Hazard Reactor for its teamkill potential on Bronze, but White and Dagger are just so  .
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Dec 18, 2012 18:55
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Beach posted:I'm seriously impressed at the amount of content they have put out for this, considering everyone expected Mass Effect multiplayer to be some kind of bastard child of the main game. I'm guessing as long as those gear packs keep printing money they will keep adding more stuff. How many people actually buy those? I mean you only need 3 rounds on silver to get a PSP.
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Dec 18, 2012 19:03
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Cheap Vodka posted:I seem to recall a Bioware dev saying Slam wouldn't work in MP for whatever reason. What I'd really like to see is Flare from the Omega DLC. Asari Mercenary Adept. Flare, Biotic Orbs, Cluster Grenades. Totally not broken!
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Dec 18, 2012 19:17
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So I'm not to familiar with the lore but, why haven't we had a quarian adept? We have nearly every race with an adept now, seems odd they don't have one.
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------- December 18, 2012 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- There will be no balance updates for the next 3 weeks due to the Christmas holidays Two new packs added to the store: - Reserves Pack - for players who want character unlocks and upgrades - Arsenal Pack - for players who want weapon unlocks and upgrades Unlocking Volus Protector Vanguard and challenge Unlocking Batarian Slasher Adept and challenge Unlocking Drell Assassin Infiltrator and challenge All hazard maps are now unlocked for the Christmas holidays Acolyte Pistol - Reverting pistol to original state before the attempted rocket glitch fix since the change did not curb the use of the glitch Sabotage Power - Base cooldown decreased from 14 to 10 seconds - Base backfire damage decreased 300 to 250
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Beach posted:Something about the Mattock sound effect is just so drat satisfying. It was even better in ME3 when you could get 100% battlefield slowdown with adrenaline rush. It sounded like it would tear the heads off your enemies.
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Dec 18, 2012 19:22
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Wow. Really nice changes there. REALLY nice changes! How much are those new packs, by the way?
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The Volus Vanguard AND the Drell Infiltrator. Nice.
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UnknownMercenary posted:---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Holy gently caress, this is a big update. Guess I know what I'm doing for the holidays. I thought the glitch was long gone though, I haven't run into people using it since.
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UnknownMercenary posted:Acolyte Pistol Thanks for nothin', hackers!  A much better nerf for the acolyte would be to halve its damage but double the shield/barrier multiplier. Stickman fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Dec 18, 2012 |
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UnknownMercenary posted:---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haha, wow. Just dump everything left in our laps. I like it. That Reserves Pack is gonna be big for my friend who wants a Fury, and the Arsenal Pack should be drat nice for people tilting at the ultra-rares. (Now if only there was a Silver Gear Pack.  ) And all hazard maps? So I can have Hazard Reactor again? Yay!  E: I was gonna go finish Omega again on one of my characters, but gently caress it, I gotta get me some space-monies to check this poo poo out. Felinoid fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Dec 18, 2012 |
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Ok that is loving awesome, I know what I'm doing for the rest of the day then.
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Well poo poo, that sure is an update  I don't mind the Acolyte change, I was getting bored of using it anyway. Now it should properly fit as a utility weapon, not an auto-carry-on-every-class. I hope the new weapon packs have a decent chance of an UR (they won't).
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Alteisen posted:So I'm not to familiar with the lore but, why haven't we had a quarian adept? Biotics are created when exposed to dust-form eezo in-utero, and only 10% of such cases result in a biotic. Quarian suits render even exposure immensely rare, and the fact that they all live on ships mean that an accident severe enough to spread eezo would also likely be an accident that would kill everyone on-board the ship. Even experiments to try and make quarian biotics would be massively unlikely since eezo is such a precious resource. All these things mean that lore-wise it would just be really, really unjustifiably dumb. I think it would be interesting from a gameplay perspective, but yeah - only so far they can stretch. Even volus are more logical, what with the lore about them being a super-rich banker species that can afford the best power armour and most cutting-edge tech available.
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UnknownMercenary posted:Acolyte Pistol That was never going to last. I don't care about how effective it is or isn't, I just can't wait to get my hands on the Volguard.
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Felinoid posted:and the Arsenal Pack should be drat nice for people tilting at the ultra-rares. They're not actually. I've got all gold and below weapons maxed, and all I got from ~800,000 worth of Arsenal Packs were the new characters and gold consumables.
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precision posted:Well poo poo, that sure is an update The in-game text says the same thing as a PSP so it's probably the same chance.
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Wait - does that mean they're going back to the charging mechanic on the acolyte?
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Wow. Really nice changes there. Indeed- Santa came early this year!
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Wow. Really nice changes there. 99,000 each.
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