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SpazmasterX posted:Sort of like a dressphere spin on the Paradigm Shift. I could be down with that. Actually, rewatch FFXIII's first trailer. Take that battle system, then throw in Dresspheres.
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Francois Kofko posted:No, if you leveled a monster with nothing but Potent poo poo it would end up better no matter what your focus was. It's better in the sense that you've given it more stat points overall (ie. +1 to three stats vs. +2 to one stat), but there's no point balancing it out like that when each monster only needs to do one thing well.
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Armor-Piercing posted:So it's a S-E game, third in its series, and has a female protagonist with multiple costumes... The two loving last costumes...gently caress you designers. gently caress you. [e]: Yeah, I know. Unfortunately. loving 3rd Birthday. VVV Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Dec 19, 2012 |
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Dec 19, 2012 02:31
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Pesky Splinter posted:The two loving last costumes...gently caress you designers. gently caress you. The last one and the first one are the same costume. Your outfit starts losing pieces as you take damage. I'm pretty sure no other Square lady has been perved on by the makers like Aya has.
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Dec 19, 2012 02:35
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The GIG posted:The last one and the first one are the same costume. Your outfit starts losing pieces as you take damage. What about X-2's massage scene, huh smartguy? 
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Dec 19, 2012 02:39
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Krad posted:What about X-2's massage scene, huh smartguy? That was more funny than anything else. And Aya had like a five year head start on Not-Jesse-From-Team-Rocket.
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Armor-Piercing posted:So it's a S-E game, third in its series, and has a female protagonist with multiple costumes... To make it worse Lightning and Aya have the same voice actress and Aya has a Lightning outfit.
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Dec 19, 2012 02:51
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 People approved this. People sat down and thought this was a good idea.
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I was about to make some joke about how they're obviously dedicated because all of the costumes have damage or something, but wow that is loving ridiculous. Even Bayonetta stops stripping the character after you put a new costume on her. I kind of want to try Parasite Eve a bit less after that.
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Dec 19, 2012 03:06
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Sex_Ferguson posted:I kind of want to try Parasite Eve a bit less after that. There's nothing wrong with the first two. Have fun. Especially with the first one because it's super breakable.
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Dec 19, 2012 03:07
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Sex_Ferguson posted:I kind of want to try Parasite Eve a bit less after that. Good thing that's The 3rd Birthday, which I'm pretty sure is just some AU fanfic Square swiped off the net and made a game.
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SpazmasterX posted:There's nothing wrong with the first two. Have fun. Especially with the first one because it's super breakable. Can I ask about them what is special exactly? I mean, I played the first one as a kid but never got past the rats at the beginning, so I didn't get to experience much of Parasite Eve.
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Dec 19, 2012 03:11
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Sex_Ferguson posted:I kind of want to try Parasite Eve a bit less after that. The first two don't have this poo poo. Play them if you can, they're pretty decent. Kinda dated now probably, but I remember them being pretty okay.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Can I ask about them what is special exactly? I mean, I played the first one as a kid but never got past the rats at the beginning, so I didn't get to experience much of Parasite Eve. I like the first one because of the battle system and the fact that I can make a pistol that fires acid buckshot a dozen times and gives me three turns. I never played the second one, but I read the LP for it. It's less RPG and more Action/Survival Horror.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Can I ask about them what is special exactly? I mean, I played the first one as a kid but never got past the rats at the beginning, so I didn't get to experience much of Parasite Eve. Playing a JRPG set in New York of all places was a complete novelty back in the day (and still kinda is). Plus, the battle system is fun and stuff.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Can I ask about them what is special exactly? I mean, I played the first one as a kid but never got past the rats at the beginning, so I didn't get to experience much of Parasite Eve. They have a pretty unique setting and combat system. They're more akin to a survival horror game than a straight-out RPG. The only other similar game is Kouldeka and the Shadow Hearts series.
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Krad posted:Playing a JRPG set in New York of all places was a complete novelty back in the day (and still kinda is). Plus, the battle system is fun and stuff. The OSTs for 1 and 2 are also really good. They're composed by two of my favorite yet under-appreciated Squaresoft/Enix composers. Yoko Shimomura - Out of Phase - Parasite Eve Yoko Shimomura - Arise Within You - Parasite Eve Yoko Shimomura - Plosive - Parasite Eve Naoshi Mizuta - Weird Man - Parasite Eve II Naoshi Mizuta - Mist - Parasite Eve II
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Pesky Splinter posted:
And that was terrible. There's nothing that proves that Lightning Returns will be at all similar.
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There's also the shower scene and the plot twist at the end of the game which reveals that Aya is mentally a 12 year old girl. That game's story was the loving worst.
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Azure_Horizon posted:And that was terrible. There's nothing that proves that Lightning Returns will be at all similar. Nobody said that, we're just bashing T3B and making fun of Lightning's dumb outfit. Cool your jets.
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Yeah Bro posted:There's also the shower scene and the plot twist at the end of the game which reveals that Aya is mentally a 12 year old girl. That game's story was the loving worst. It's slightly worse than that. She isn't Aya, but the clone from PE2, who switched bodies with Aya. Then, in the end, she has to kill Aya because 3rd Birthday had some decent music and the gameplay was surprisingly solid, but the rest of it was a complete disaster on every level. EDIT: poo poo, Motomu Toriyama ( who wrote 3rd Birthday ) is involved with Lightning Returns as well  I know he was involved in all the FFXIII games, but still...
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Because everyone loves lists... http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/...y_Japanese_fans quote:Zack Fair ranked most popular male Final Fantasy character by Japanese fans I think list bashing is dull and it's not even necessary here in my view. I mean, I don't like Zack but Zidane is 3 and both Kuja and Balthier made it higher than I would have expected. I didn't even expect Kujja to be on the list. I think it's a nice list overall. No, I'll save my indignation for the female list. I dunno what order they'll be in but I predict Tifa, Aerith and Lightning will be the Top 3. Rinoa will also probably be Top 5.
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Zack has been the only likable main character since 9 or perhaps 10 so I'm totally fine with him in the first spot.
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I find it funny that Noctis, a guy we know nothing about in a game that's never coming out, is still in the top 20. But hell, at least both Laguna and Sazh placed. They should both be way higher up, but this means Japan isn't totally crazy.
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As someone who only knows Zack from the side stuff in FF7 (where his entire character was basically being the base for Cloud's delusion), why is his being #1 a good thing? Also, which Cid placed? There's one for practically every game. QuantaStarFire fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Dec 19, 2012 |
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Yeah, I don't know either. He must be Jesus in Crisis Core or something, because there's nothing at all that makes me think he'd be #1 otherwise.
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Hope and Vaan are both higher than Vivi? I disapprove of this ultimately pointless list!  Galuf is on there though, that's pretty neat.
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Momomo posted:Yeah, I don't know either. He must be Jesus in Crisis Core or something, because there's nothing at all that makes me think he'd be #1 otherwise. He's a pretty cool dude and not at all mopey like Post-FF7 Cloud. Also he can kill anything in one punch.
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QuantaStarFire posted:Also, which Cid placed? There's one for practically every game. All of them. You could fill the entire list with just Cids otherwise. I'm more surprised both Firion and Minwu placeed from FF2, though.
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Renoistic posted:It's slightly worse than that. She isn't Aya, but the clone from PE2, who switched bodies with Aya. Then, in the end, she has to kill Aya because Yeah, I know. But I was more approaching it from how creepy it is that the game keeps perving on a character who is mentally a child rather than just how stupid the plot was. It's kind of a shame that the rest of the game was so awful, given how challenging and fun the game could be on hard mode. I haven't really seen any other 3rd person shooters with that level of challenge and demand. List talk: The fact Balthier isn't at the top of the list shows that the list is objectively wrong.
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QuantaStarFire posted:As someone who only knows Zack from the side stuff in FF7 (where his entire character was basically being the base for Cloud's delusion), why is his being #1 a good thing? I'm also surprised Bartz is #6. Did Dissidia give him more personality than V?
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Zonko_T.M. posted:Because when you take the Gackt out of Crisis Core it's pretty faithful to the original FF7, and Zack was a really likable protagonist who was upbeat and cheerful without being irritating or completely stupid. I'd say he's most similar to Zidane, without the playboy stuff. I'm surprised he's at #1, though, did Crisis Core make much of a splash in Japan? Well according to wikipedia Crisis Core was Square Enixes most sold game during the time of it's release and it also got to be the second most sold PSP game in Japan during that time. Also the story is pretty good for a spinoff and being based on bits and pieces from Cloud's fragmented mind. And to be honest, people have wanted to know the truth about Zack and what he did. On the topic of Bartz, he is the same hyperactive and optimistic fool he always was in FF5. Dissidia just got him "back to the game" so to speak. Also, why is "this is my story" before "this is your story". I mean Auron was the greatest character in the whole game. Unlike Tidus, Auron has character, he has a proper goal in the game and during the game he is a center of a major plot twist. He is the best thing in the game drat it. What is wrong with people who think Tidus is better than him :/?
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Because there are a thousand and one 'stoic mysterious badass mentors that refuse to tell the protagonist anything straight' whereas goofballs like Tidus are hard to come by.
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Zonko_T.M. posted:Because when you take the Gackt out of Crisis Core it's pretty faithful to the original FF7, and Zack was a really likable protagonist who was upbeat and cheerful without being irritating or completely stupid. I'd say he's most similar to Zidane, without the playboy stuff. I'm surprised he's at #1, though, did Crisis Core make much of a splash in Japan? And the last "battle" in Crisis Core is one of the best things S-E has ever done. I can still remember how I was really focused because of how badly I wanted to win...  The last part, when Aerith is the only one left in the slots, and the machine struggles to get her healing move, was loving killer Renoistic fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Dec 19, 2012 |
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Baalfrog posted:Also, why is "this is my story" before "this is your story". I mean Auron was the greatest character in the whole game. Unlike Tidus, Auron has character, he has a proper goal in the game and during the game he is a center of a major plot twist. He is the best thing in the game drat it. What is wrong with people who think Tidus is better than him :/? I didn't even notice Tidus was on there, and he outranked Auron? What the gently caress, Japan?  Silly Voodoo posted:Hope and Vaan are both higher than Vivi? I disapprove of this ultimately pointless list! Hope, Vaan, and loving Zell are all higher than Vivi. Why are the most annoying characters beating Vivi in a popularity contest? The female character list is going to be awful, isn't it? 
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I honestly do not see what people like in Auron. He's not a bad guy or anything, but I would not call him one of the best characters in the series.
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